Vanessa “Please feed her the line I’m not really big into making deals!” Liz “NO DEALS, NO DEALS!”

POV Holder: ? POV Competition Aug 15th
POV Used ? POV Ceremony Aug 10th
HOH Liz Next HOH Aug 17th
Original Nominations: ? and ?
After POV Nominations: ? and ?
Have Nots ?

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12:23am Steve comes out of the diary room and goes into the storage room to grab his HOH basket. Steve reads his letter from his mom.

Dear Steve,
Congratulations on winning HOH! I miss you so much but I am so happy to be seeing your dream coming true. I found the surprise you left for me. (Steve tells everyone that he left her a nice little note that he left in the couch.) It meant a lot and I keep it close. Jerry loved her Birthday present and even opened it early to make us payaya on the first night of our visit. Dad loved his fathers day present and we both loved the present you got us on the trip with Jerry. Allen said you nailed his birthday present perfectly. Your nephew Harrison is doing great. We’ll plan a trip to see him some time in the fall. The best part is he is smiling and laughing a lot and we get lots of pictures and videos to enjoy. Allen and Caitlyn. The big news that you have missed is that Allen did propose to Jerry and she said yes. Jerry and Jason know that you will fully approve.
Dad and I flew to Orlando. Jerry expected it was to ask for Dad’s blessing and we had already done it. He took Jerry to talk to her and of course we followed them and spied. We saw Jason get down on one knee and I even snuck some photos. They’re thinking of getting married maybe it this February or March so we don’t have to wait long. You should see the ring! WoW! Dad is still doing advertising for the paper and Jerry and Jason are going to build a brand new house. They chose a house model and all the details like counter tops. They picked a lot and it should be ready to move in a couple months from now. Dad and I just had our 25th Wedding Anniversary.
I am still writing for the paper every week and I have agreed to play in the pit orchestra. I miss talking to you and seeing you every day but you know Dad and I are here loving and supporting you. I think about you constantly and I am proud of you. Jerry and Allan and your extended family are totally there for you. Grandpa and I had some special time together at the family reunion it was such an amazing day and I took lots of pictures and Grandpa took me to all the places he grew up and where he and Grandma lived.
I love you so much and I know how much you love me too. My heart is with you every step of the way no matter what happens always remember that and what a kind giving person you are so keep staying true to yourself and staying strong. Keep hanging in there Steve, we believe in you. All my love Mom.

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Steve says I needed this! Liz tells Steve you look exactly like your mom. Steve wonders if is is a havenot this week if he can’t eat his HOH basket food.

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12:35am – 1:10am Bathroom – Austin and Liz are talking. Liz says that’s what I’m trying to think. Austin says you’re right she would have come after us. Or she would have targeted Steve maybe? Steve and one of us? Steve and Vanessa? Vanessa’s her target. Liz says I want to give an explanation, its all game. Austin says that Meg and James will want to know why we’re not going after Steve because Johnny Mac and Steve were supposed to be our targets. So that’s why you’ve got to be like I promised him real quick safety if he didn’t put me, Austin or Julia up. How about Vanessa making a deal with Johnny Mac right before this HOH to keep her safe next week? Where does that leave us? But she wants us to make a deal to include her?! Liz says she is so sneaky. Austin says I want to talk to Meg and James before shes in the room. She made the deal right before .. no front door, no back door. Liz says James and Meg don’t even try and talk game with me I could just say its all strategic. Its nothing personal. Austin says why even go that far, you only have a couple of options .. that’s you (Becky) and Johnny Mac.. just say that you have a deal to keep everyone else safe this week. I didn’t have a deal with you two. Liz says will says I was HOH last week but that was for double eviction. Austin says but she went against the plan. Austin says that she (Becky) was the one that sat there and said she had a four group deal. Austin says you don’t have to give too much information. You’re in a position of power. Liz asks do you think its the best decision for me? My first target was Jackie, and Becky. Jackie is gone. I don’t want to ruffle feathers with Meg and James because its two of them. Austin says taking Becky out is the best case scenario and taking Johnny Mac out would be the second best scenario. Austin says I am little worried about Vanessa, Steve and Johnny Mac .. because she could take them two and beat us in the final 2. Austin says even if Becky doesn’t go this week and Johnny Mac does …Vanessa and Becky will still go at it. Austin says James does not like Becky. She called him a sexist.

THE PLAN – Liz plans to nominate – Becky & Johnny Mac
(Becky as the main target, Johnny as the secondary target.)

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1:23am Vanessa talks to Steve and tells him that they want us (Aus-twins) to pull Johnny Mac in as the final 6th. Steve asks what? Vanessa says they want Johnny Mac to be top 6 but we can’t just be like hey come join our 5 person group that makes them feel like sh*t. You and I should go to him and form a side 3 and say we think we can get those 3 to work with us. Lets make a 6. Then he will feel totally comfortable going up as the pawn. Steve asks would he make a deal like that going against Becky? Vanessa says he has no choice. She’s going home. He wants to be part of a group. Steve asks do you think he will trust you after last week. Vanessa says I’m the trustworthy one, Becky is the untrustworthy one. What did I do. She (Becky) doesn’t like people who ask to give their word. I speak big brother, she speaks a different language. This is a smart move for him game wise. Vanessa tells Steve this is shaping up good for us! “SOS” has a real shot. Vanessa says we don’t want the Aus-Twins having all the power, we should have our own 3. Vanessa says Becky is 100% the target. Steve thinks Johnny Mac would be more likely to agree to the 3 / 6 person deal if we do it after he is nominated. He will feel like we’re saving him. Vanessa says that’s good.

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1:45am Liz comes out of the diary room – “Who wants to see my HOH room!!” Julia looks at Liz’s HOH letter. Steve comments on how he thinks big brother rewrites the letters. Austin says they definitely do. Big Brother blocks the feeds.

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2:10am Cabana room – Liz talks to Vanessa. Vanessa tells Liz we need a name. I thought of one. “BRASS TACKS” get it lets get down to bass tacks! Lets get down to bass tacks top 6! Liz asks what did he (James) say? Vanessa says he loved it so I’m sure he’s going to tell Meg. Liz says I told him we need to talk to you two together. Liz talks about what she will say to Becky. Is there anything you want to tell me? What happened last week to make you go back on the deal to putting up Vanessa? I want to catch her in a lie. Did you tell Johnny about the 8 person deal? Like how did that get out? I want to know. Vanessa says I already know how it came out .. Steve told me that Johnny and Shelli heard from Becky. Liz says see so there. Vanessa says but I wouldn’t worry about it too much you don’t need a reason. She’s a big threat. She’s never really talked game with her. Vanessa asks will you do me a favour. Please just feed her the line I’m not really big into making deals any more. Liz says no deal, no deal! Just please if you could say that it would make me so happy. The poetic justice of it! I want her to have the same feeling I had. Like that she is going f**king up! Vanessa tells Liz she already talked to Steve about making the alliance / deal. Vanessa tells Liz to tell Johnny that he, Steve and Vanessa are the people you trust the most. I want you to know that if you go up, you would be just the pawn. And if you do that then we would be interesting in making a long term deal. Liz heads up to the HOH room. Vanessa talks to Steve. He feels bad about crushing Jackie’s dream and being the one to send her out. Vanessa reassures him this is just a game.


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2:10am – 2:30am Liz comes up to the HOH room to talk to Meg and James with Julia and Austin in the room. Liz tells them obviously they got hit hard today with Jackie. We still want to work with you guys. Austin says this is the “BRASS TACKS!” Liz says last week made us closer. Vanessa told me she already talked to you about keeping you safe. Austin says we want this to be the brass tacks! We want this to be the 5 like legitimately and like Vanessa is like 6. Meg says she is worried where Steve got the info. Austin says we will need to dig. Liz says maybe he had a plan if the veto got used too. The deal we want to make with you guys is to keep you safe. At the end of the day the 3 of us and you two need to be together more an with Vanessa. We like her but .. brass tacks! Liz asks who do you think I should put up. Meg says its getting down to numbers. Liz says we really like you people. We trust you. Austin says we love you guys. Liz says this all brought us closer together. Becky tries to come in. They comment on how she’s freaking out right now. James says Vanessa told me a lot about Becky like how she was targeting me, the generals and how she cut me off. Meg and I have y’alls backs. Austin says final 5 is huge too because that’s when someone will probably come back. Meg says that Becky thinks she is probably going home. Austin says she thinks Vanessa is running the show and she’s not. They talk about who leaked the 8 thing. Meg wonders if it was Becky or Vanessa. Meg says there is a lot of manipulation going on with the people left in the game that can manipulate. That’s what I think happened today. Meg says Johnny listened to Steve and he said not to use the veto. Meg says Steve & Johnny Mac don’t have open communication. Just keep open communication with them. Meg says in the bathroom today I said what if Steve wins and throws a curve ball putting me and Jackie up sending one of us home! James asks how do I go about it with Vanessa. Austin says its a 6 person thing .. but if we have talks within our 5 person thing then obviously we don’t tell her. Any thing she tells you she should be telling us. They talk about how depressed Johnny Mac has been since last week. Austin says someone needs to put him out of his misery like a dog. Meg tells them that Becky said she needed to sell her soul this week. James and Meg leave. Liz tells Austin and Julia that Vanessa is so sketchy she came up to before this and told me she already told James about the 6 person alliance. Austin say we can’t go after her yet but when it comes down to it we might have to have someone take her out.


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2:33am – 3:15am HOH room – Becky comes in to talk. Liz says I know it was a hard loss for you but some times the Steve’s of the house win and do some crazy sh*t. Is there anything I need to know to make my decision easier. Becky says I did make a decision that was best for my game. I knew it was best for my game and didn’t want to put people in a tough spot. That’s why I told you before the HOH and after that you guys were safe and would never touch my block. I wanted to keep you guys clean and I got very dirty from it. My group was not with me and that was extremely hard. After the blow out fights Vanessa was identified as the bigger target. I wouldn’t have put up Vanessa if everyone had gone Shelli, Shelli, Shelli. I would have put up Johnny Mac if that was the case. Becky starts tearing up. I was in a tough spot. You’re saying that you actually came to a consensus to go after Vanessa? Becky says yeah. Austin asks why did they turn on you? Becky says it changed Tuesday evening that it had switched and I didn’t have people behind me. Shelli had offended Meg. Liz asks how the 8 person thing got out. I heard it could have been you or Vanessa? Becky says I would hate to rat them out .. 3 of the 4 of them were in the bathroom and Vanessa said there were two group up there trying to get me out. Vanessa knew she was in trouble and that’s why she called our two groups in. Becky grabs cereal and “creates a graph” about what was happening the week Austin almost went up and Jason went home. Becky tells them about how when Vanessa was HOH she told James to throw the BOB that he was with Liz. Becky says that Johnny knows he is being used as the ultimate pawn and that he will go home eventually. He is looking for a group. He is so scared. He is a free agent right now. Becky says that Meg and James are great. They hug and Becky leaves. Austin says we can’t put up Vanessa we’re way too deep with her but I think we should put up Becky and leave her to take out Vanessa. Then Johnny Mac has to go home this week. You (Julia), Me, Meg and James we have the votes. Liz asks whos the pawn. Austin says Becky has to be the pawn. Liz is pissed about Vanessa telling James to throw the BOB with her.


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2:35am Havenot room – 2:50amMeg and James are talking. James says that he is worried that something might be said that puts doubt in their (Aus-twins) minds. Like okay there might be dirt. Meg says there’s not though. James says I know. We need to be super tight with our mouth. They will use anything against us. Other than that I think we’re good. We just need to lay low and not talk game with anyone. We don’t want to put any doubt in their mind. I don’t even remember everything that was said from Becky about Austin and the twins. Meg says I wanted to make a 6 with them this whole time. James agrees. We have nothing to worry about. Y’all said Vanessa had something with me. She comes to me and talks to me because I talk straight and don’t lie. Whatever you say to me I don’t tell anyone. We need to buckle down. Meg says Becky was in here with Steve and I hated it. I should have just acted on my own. Meg says now you’ve got me worried. Do you know that Vanessa told Steve that Jackie was going after him. James asks do they know that? Meg says that’s what I was trying to elude to up there. James says oh yeah the manipulate thing. Meg says there are questions in my mind, I didn’t want to say too much. James says I wouldn’t say too much more about it. Meg says part of me feels like we were played by them a little bit. James says I would rather roll with them than Johnny Mac, Steve, Vanessa. Meg says I want Vanessa out. James says they might put her up and backdoor her. Meg says we have to get away from Becky. James says we can’t too much she will know. Meg says I’m scared about what she will say. Except they’ve seen how she acts. James says and they know about the generals. Meg says so they aren’t putting us up? James says not that wouldn’t be brass tacks! I wouldn’t be surprised if they took out Vanessa. James says I think Becky will go up. Becky and Johnny Mac and if one of them comes off Steve will probably go up. Meg says okay we just need to have summer camp this week. James says I don’t think they would try and f**k us and be talking about making a final 5 with them. That wouldn’t be brass tacks.

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2:50am – 3am Living room – Steve and Johnny are talking. Steve says I just couldn’t make a relationship with her (Jackie). Like there was a wall up between us. She was the person I was most distant with. I just felt she was going after Austin. Johnny says I don’t think we were ever target but we were very expendable. Johnny says I think Vanessa and Austin have a final two and that the twins are expendable. Steve says we need to play dumb this week. She (Vanessa) has no idea we know what’s up.

Steve heads to the bedroom. Meg talks to him about how she is getting the point we are all alone. I have James unless he is playing me really well. Its hard to figure out what’s going on in here. Steve says I noticed today. Meg says all I can say is that it wasn’t true about Jackie but you can figure that out.

3:20am Havenot room – Becky tells Meg about her conversation in the HOH room about how and why she did what she did. I made sure I owned everything and without doing anything to expose you, James or Johnny Mac. Meg says well there’s not much they don’t know.

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134 thoughts on “Vanessa “Please feed her the line I’m not really big into making deals!” Liz “NO DEALS, NO DEALS!”

    1. Shelli staying in the game would’ve been bad for JJM. Evicting Shelli last night did nothing but strengthen James and Meg’s game. Steve would’ve still nominated the same people and nothing would’ve changed.

      If Shelli stayed, it would’ve strengthen Steve, Jmac, and Becky’s game, and Shelli would’ve made far into the game because she had a good social game. If Shelli stayed, no way would Julia or Liz even consider giving James and Meg a shot.

      Vanessa is already on everyone’s radar and she won’t make it too far.

      I’m actually rooting for Jmac, just like I was rooting for Donny last season. Just like last season when Donny was so popular but really didn’t do much, Jmac is a clear-cut fan fave without doing much.

      I’m enjoying this season so much. It would be hysterical if the final 3 were the twins and Meg.

        1. I disagree. If Vanessa had gone home, then a) Austin and the twins would have to start thinking for themselves, and b) They would have been the weaker side.

          Let’s say for argument sake you’re right about Shelli, Jmac, Steve and Becky being stronger. Becky and Jmac were already working with the Goblins and had started to bring Steve in.

          Steve was mad at Vanessa and while he had promised to vote to keep her, he was mad she talked about Freaks and Geeks.

          But Jmac came clean about being close with Becky – who was with the goblins, and was actively trying to save Shelli.

          So it’s possible Shelli would have crossed over, and it’s possible Steve would have too. But that would have been five on that side (at worst) Verses, the goblins and Jmac – also five.

          And that isn’t even taking into consideration the possibility of Shelli, Jmac and Steve actually working with the Goblins moving forward.

          Basically James fucked up HIs, Megs, and Jmacs game – and i think he’s going to be picked off as a thank you – they were ALREADY talking about him being a secondary target.

          They seemed to have moved off of that for the moment, but what would it take for it to come back?

          Basically Meg and James – though it was initiated by James, sent shelli home, and possibly Jackie.

          1. Yes, but I think Vanessa planted the seeds with James and Meg that led to them viewing evicting Shelli as the safer move (Since Shelli was a threat to win HOH and Vanessa was promising to target Becky, not them). They were manipulated into that move. In typical fashion, James & Meg continued to look only one week ahead while a true chess player like Vanessa is thinking 2 or 3 moves ahead and even thinking about the end of the game.

      1. Will go with the third option that probably the goblins would still be in about the same predicament, no matter who they chose to keep/evict last week.

        The dynamics of the house right now might have been different had Shellie stayed, which could change things in future weeks – but in terms of who’s been getting nominated (and evicted) right now, I don’t think keeping Shellie would have made any difference.

        Steve wasn’t influenced by Vanessa to put Meg and Jackie up on the block – and he wouldn’t have put Shellie up, so Meg/Jackie would have still been his choices, and Jackie would have still been out the door.

        And Liz – if anything, Shellie being in the house would have made it MORE likely that James and Meg would have been nominated instead of Becky and Johnny Mac, because Shellie is working with them.

        Jackie and Meg should have been nicer/friendlier to Steve when they were in power, instead of taking him for granted – then maybe he would have gone after Becky instead of them, and they’d still both be in the house.

        Sometimes the little things like showing someone who’s lonely a little kindness can make a big difference. Their competition game is super weak, so it was up to them to have an extra good social game, and JJM were kind of cliquey while in power, which was probably scary to someone who might have been feeling a bit alone and afraid in the house.

      1. This whole cast is a bunch of idiots!! Look how smart they make the tweeker and her green beanie look. Everytime I read an update I throw up in my mouth a little.

        1. Congratulations Vanessa for winning another HOH! Way to go!
          You know the austwins won’t touch her…she’ll make it another week and more than likely will make it all the way because everyone is scared of her…unfortunately!

    2. Eeeeeewwwwuhhh! So James blackmailing Meg for a kiss with Steve cheering him on was gross! Then that’s to far on her to blow her out of the room. Disguising. Then Brass Tacks first item for business James reports are his favorite porn sites. And he’s still gunning for Becky over her audacity to ask him to stop being sexist. While he wears Clays shirt to humiliate Shelli and feud about it until he’s lost 3 players from his own team buh bye Jackie, Shelli & Becky. They threw in with a chauvanist and his slave pawn Meg because he won an HOH early after playing pawn on the block for the first month? Surprise! Don’t turn down Jame sexual advances or you’re out.

      Now he gets to suck up to Austin & his harem, to afraid of Vanessa’s wrath to be a real leader of his own team Becky, Steve, JMAC Meg he’s already given up, joined the other side, because he thinks Austin will take him to Final 2? No, James will play helpless while his girls are picked off one by one, for a rediculous Brown Code deal with Austin. Just lay low, nod, do whatever Vanessa wants, cut a deal with Vanessa without Meg. Hero right? Frightened Coward who talks tough but had no intention to be loyal to his crew. Never was.

    1. I agree! Vanessa needed to go over Shelli if anyone in the house wanted a chance to win. But Austwins are making a big mistake if they keep Becky to get out Vanessa. That will back fire and they will be out before Vanessa. Vanessa is a snake working all sides, but going about it that it doesn’t seem like she is throwing anyone under the bus. She uses the “your name didn’t come out of my mouth” but it did without saying your name. Oh well, season started good, but seeing how dumb these people are, Vanessa will win.

      1. Noooo Becky don’t go….not my baby!
        Best case scenario… James wins POV and takes Becky off the block, both are safe…. then get the piece of trash green beanie wearing tweeker Nessa out next week… Becky should just mad dog here all week, like it’s coming bitch, it’s coming.

      2. Where folks are at or headed….

        Meg- easiest call in the house. She is playing F2/ 50K like crazy. Who would you want to sit beside more to win 500K. Jebus even the twins beat her and that is so bad.
        James- no strategy the best strategy. Well not quite but can’t see the forest from the tree. It’s same money for F3, F4, F5 ect Unlike Meg James isn’t going to be carried F2.
        Austin- no bloody end game just a knight protecting Princess Liz. Liz reminds me of “bottle server” Porsha from BB 13. Liz is a pure snake you wait and see. Feel a little bad for lummox Austin.
        Julia- think she lacks votes versus Liz. Starting in the house should give Liz F2 edge.
        Liz- She has lots of protection at this point has a favourable F4 and a decent F2 depending on when/how the house flips. Gotta be Vanessa’s ultimate play if they don’t get her 1st.
        J Mac- bye old buddy great season thanks to you and DR’s. He’s gone and maybe Thursday.
        Becky- I’m buying they keep her to go after Vanessa. The light bulb comes on if Johnnie Mac goes but to late. She’d know Austwins and J/M working together and Becky wants blood. Steve and Van would be isolated…. maybe.
        Steve- welcome to BB adulthood. Your at the bottom except with J Mac on alliances. J Mac is going it won’t be fun for you as you’ll have paranoid Van left.
        Vanessa- My gut tells me Austwins/J/M could stick. Only if they hold power of course. It’s still musical chairs depending whose HOH and that’s a Van strength. She has to be able to read the house if Becky stays and J Mac goes. Unless Becky wins POV which disguises it all. They talked about a James renom I’m not buying it by Monday it will be Steve. Vanessa may not get the clue.

  1. It’s hilarious and unreal how fast James and Meg are regretting keeping Vanessa.
    Johnny Mac needs to pull this POV and makes some moves to take Vanessa out ASAP

    1. After all this, I don’t get why people don’t see that Austin/twins have GOT to be broken up. Yes, Vanessa is a big player etc. but the twins and Austin are three in one, or two in one worst case.

    2. Sad thing is Jackie, James, and Meg waited too long to start the game. When James finally won, there were too many targets to safely go after any. They needed to win the second HoH to put a nail in Vanessa. Either way it played out between Shelli and Vanessa, the goblins were in trouble. The goblins needed more people capable of winning comps.

      1. It being BOB Big Brother didn’t help the social politics. It allows more sneaky ones to hide behind i for a few reasons. By the time some catch on it’s really too late. So I agree. It was too late without one of them winning again and wasn’t surprised Jackie got evicted when I saw all of them go out on the same question. Is what it is.

  2. Im still not sure why Steve decided to go after the Goblins instead of Austwins. were ppl putting Steve up if they won in DE? I thought it was Jamc…
    Is he just prefer the Freaks n Geeks alliance more? Someone shed some light please
    But obviously it was a great move for him. Goblin thought he was manipulated so no target on his back, and now Liz won HOH(he could not have possibly foreseen this, or is it?) , so not a target on this side too.

    1. The reason Steve went for the goblins is because they are the only group who didn’t include him in on their convo or any deals. He had freaks and geeks, and the generals who included him as well as all of his mini side alliances. It was a spectacular move on his part. Now all of the other groups feel like he is trust worthy while goblins just think he was being manipulated. If he was smart he would tell Austin the Goblind said Austin was Jackie target the whole time, then Austwins would not feel guilty about putting up James and Meg knowing the 3 of them all think alike, then they can keep Becky and Jmac to go after Vanessa.

      1. In my opinion it was a terrible move for someone who is supposed to be a “student of the game”. Jackie was a non issue for Steve yet he leaves Austin, Liz and Julia in and Austin has been coming for him the whole time. DE are when you get out a big target and if Steve actually thinks he would beat Austin, Liz or Julia in the end he is crazy! Had Steve backdoored Austin he would take the mouthpiece out of that threesome and he would be safer when it comes to who would put him up. Now I don’t think Steve will make it close to the final 5.

        1. If Steve had taken out Austin, he would be a prime target for the twins and Vanessa. Being that he’s on the bottom of everyone’s totem pole, it would have been very risky for him to do that. He does not have anyone who prioritizes his protection. He’s likely to get farthest by continuing to play the middle and laying low. Consider this current HOH with Liz winning, for instance. Steve is in the fold and reasonably safe this week. He would have otherwise been on the outs with them and a good person to target b/c he is so good at mental comps and someone who had betrayed them. Making bold moves doesn’t always further your game. Derrick won b/c he was very conservative with his game play. Of course Steve is no Derrick, but there is something to be said for cautious game play.

    2. Because Steve is a twit who won’t initiate social interaction but who gets even with those who do not include him in theirs.

    3. Austwins are less united than goblins. I don’t see Meg/Jackie/Games turning against each other, however Julia will have no problem to get Austin out of the house if it benefits her or her sister’s game.
      Pluss, Goblins had no problem taking out Steve… Vanessa and Austwins are way more loyal to him

    4. This is why keeping Vanessa shot the goblins in the foot. If Vanessa had gone out, Steve could have targeted Shelli. That would’ve been the safest move for him.

      With Shelli gone and Vanessa still in, Steve felt safe enough to go after the goblins. Game over for Jackie, James and Meg.

  3. Somehow I want Jmac to go home just to spite Steve, he has a better chance at working with the goblins and Jackie (since austin and liz are a showmance and julia is a freaking twin) and yet he opted to get rid of a potential ally. Having said so, the best case scenario is still Steve getting the boot this week. Jmac or Becky wins veto and then gets to be nominated.

    1. Right, sounds like it would have been a great move for Steve to join a group that had no clue what is going on in the house, even after being told about alliances, masterminds, and seeing all their friends going one by one.

      Being at the bottom of a strong alliance gives you a chance to stay in the house longer and find weaknesses. Its better to keep your enemies close.

  4. Vanessa deserves to win IF they”re dumb enough to let her..although I’d love to see Steve win it because hes like the epitome of an underdog..

    1. Only the winner deserves to win…
      Deserve is so misused,
      ONLY the winner has done everything they need to do to win bc ONLY jury votes matter…
      Not HOH not winning comps, not social game, not manners, cleanliness or morals.
      NOPE
      JUST jury votes…
      you get the majority of those and you deserve to win.

  5. Well, it was good while it lasted. Look, at this point I would HATE to see Austin, Liz, or Julia in the final 3.

    Hate to admit it, I really do, but at this point Vanessa deserves to win. No one else has played this game like a player, other than her. These idiots will keep her until it’s too late to get her out- so Van will win!

  6. Why are these fools trying to act like Vanessa was just scheming to get Austin out for no reason. The twins, who Shelli and Vanessa worked really hard to protect, could have both been evicted that week because of what Austin did. Vanessa directed the heat off of them and put it on Austin where it should have been…only he never felt the heat because Jason went home. I don’t think he realizes that he didn’t actually get the boot, and because he didn’t get the boot, Clay and Shelli are gone and Vanessa made a lot of enemies in the house. That’s gratitude for you. LOL!

    1. Totally agree with you Smart Guy! Van was protecting Julia who Austin had every intention of getting rid of so he could be Liz’s only focus. Austin is an idiot if he lets Liz focus on that. If this finds it’s way back to Van (which it will) Van will absolutely remind the twins of WHY she did it and who she was ultimately protecting which was them This will totally bring back Julia’s mistrust of Austin again (she doesn’t really like him anyway that’s pretty clear) – Van will use this to be the “crack” in Austwins foundation and it will probably work out even better for Van then for Austin in the end. – Love her or hate her – She’s playing to win

      1. Hate her and the Austwins. lol.
        That is a little strong, but I do not enjoy thier gameplay. Van is a strong strategic player, she’s constantly negotiating, but she is a lot more transparent than you are giving her credit for. Her social game has taken quite the hit, she is not fun to be around, and that seems important to the twins. The austwins are more concerned about tv time and public perception than the 500k, but that gives them equal enough drive. Therefore, they probably disregard Van’s arguement, and not go against Austin.
        I dont agree with the people that say Van is the only one that has been playing the game. There are different ways to play and she has some contenders to deal with.

  7. Diamond Power of Veto please! Johnny Mac wins, puts up Vanessa. I know I’m stretching but I really can’t stand her.

    1. Either you are using my name or great minds think alike. I don’t post often so it could be the latter.

    1. Why the downvotes? lol If they want her out, why didn’t they just get rid of her at DE? Backdooring her now is pretty much a safe move, which is a waste of an HoH.

      Austin thinks he is the brain of the operation, when it’s really Vanessa… he is trying to prove something.

  8. Thought Steve made a great move for his own game, putting up the Goblins. Now Liz won HOH, it was a fantastic move. Getting the target off his back from Austwins, but also didn’t piss off the Goblins because they’re too stupid to realize they were the ones being manipulated, not Steve.

    This is going to be a predictable aka boring week, like it always is when senses is in power (except jason’s blindside)
    Goblins are truly entertaining to watch when they are in power, but when they don’t, they’re just Goblins…

    I think I could probably skip this week and still wouldn’t miss much…
    Hoping Jmac stays so at least the 3 way fight is still possible (Goblin VS Austwins VS the rest)

  9. Austin actually thinks he’ll be in a final 2 with Liz? Lol Liz won’t pick him over Julia and Julia will pick Liz. The only way that will happen is if Austin wins final HOH. Also what happened to Austins “I don’t want to win, I just want to get to jury” I would taken him out by now, just for that statement.

  10. Austin and the twins make me want to vomit. Just looking at Austin alone, I get pukey. Yuck.

    Let’s just hand they money to vanessa now.

    1. It wasn’t Austin that is voting out people, it’s JUDAS. Every time he says that it’s JUDAS doing all these things, I think about a little 5 year old and his imaginary friend.

      1. Agree totally. No one gives a crap about this alter ego. It’s not entertaining and he sounds like a dumbass. Whatever name he wants to use he is just a Moron and Liz is using his pecker for a leash. When she’s done with your obedience training it’s off to the dog pound for your sorry ass. No bone for you buddy!

  11. Hey James..You said keeping Vanessa was best for Your game…How’s that working out for You now ? You had a chance to be in a solid 5 person alliance and now Your basically about to get hit by a truck

    1. So you’re saying Steve wouldn’t have targeted Jackie & Meg if they voted out Vanessa instead of Shelli? Or are you mad and being illogical because voting out Shelli weakened Jmac, Steve, Shelli, Becky’s chance to further in the game?

      It worked out well for James & Meg because they were always one of the first names out of everyone’s mouth to put up on the block. You don’t think Shelli wouldn’t have tried to influence Liz to put up James/Meg on the block instead of Jmac & Becky (as it seems as of now)?

      Shelli is well liked by everyone except James and Meg. There’s no way whatsoever that James, Meg, Jackie didn’t make the right call to keep Vanessa.

      Unlike some, I’m rating people by their gameplay, whatever is best to get them further in the game. I hated Steve’s HOH but he made a good call. He’s not on people’s radar. As unpalatable as it may be, I do believe that Austin/twin & James/Meg alliance is probably their best chance to win. At the end, you want to be sitting next to someone you’re able to beat. Think about the jury votes. My only thing is I would vote out Meg right now because I know she would be the surefire person to take to the final 2.

      1. Terrible move to keep Vanessa. The Goblins have no idea what’s going on in the game. If Shelli had stayed, Steve could have targeted her in the DE. Not a sure thing, but a very good chance.

        Keeping Vanessa in the house put them in a permanent minority with no chance to win. At least they’ll be able to entertain each other in the jury house.

  12. Great, we get to have Austin and Liz literally in our face with their groping all week. This week will finally put this trio in the spot light and maybe just maybe people in this game will wake up and start targeting them. It was smart for Becky to tell Liz that James was supposed to throw that BOB. I know Liz already knew she was playing that alone. Now doubt about Vanessa and James are open for the backdoor. They are so dumb though, it will be James as the replacement. I hope they do put JMac straight up with Becky. I want him to have the chance to win the POV and take himself down and make Liz put a replacement up. Dumb move not to get Vanessa out by the Goblins, but maybe this is better because maybe by the time she is out (finger crossed) she won’t be able to come back. I can’t help but wonder who Liz would be making out with if Jace and Jeff were still in the game. Austin just gets her by default, because those two are gone. She’s made her rounds, that’s for sure.

  13. Damn Austin. Last week i wanted Vanessa out, but now that Vanessa actually wants a 3 person alliance with Steve and Johnny Mac, i want Vanessa to stay a while. Now DAMN Austin redirects the target to Johnny Mac. If i didnt like Austin before, that feeling is 100 times stronger now. I hope Johnny Mac wins the POV.

  14. Ah James JamesJames … You should of taken out Vanessa and taken your chances with Shellie .. She is such a snake ..
    Will someone go after austwin already

  15. Vanessa has a fetish for the phrase “poetic justice.” She says it every ten minutes.

    Austin is becoming…. Just as bad as Frankie. That’s pretty horrible.

    1. No one in this cast is even close to the vileness of Frankie. He was absolutely the worst and probably still doesn’t get how disliked he is.

  16. I didn’t really have a strong opinion on meg before the past couple days, but now I can’t stand her for potentially ruining this season.

    Keeping Vanessa in just makes it easier for the three headed monster and her to be the final four. Disappointing. Hopefully something switches up soon

    1. Really?! I beg to differ! Imagine if Shelli stayed, and Liz still won? The twins respond better to Shelli’s social game over Van’s strategic game play, which made Shelli all the more influential IMO.
      Shelli would have thrown shade at the goblins, while trying to protect Becky and JMac, forcing Liz’s hands to go after them. Meg and James are sitting in a better spot w/ van.
      Love Meg or hate Meg, she did make the right decision. Either way, Van and Shelli were interchangeable, one targets goblins, and the other targets generals, both controls austwins.

  17. Looks like it’s gonna be a John vs. Becky block. I like Johnny, but more than I like the doctor, I want to see Vanessa freak-out when her “allies” save her arch-nemesis.

    Johnny’s great at comps and DR’s – but let’s face it – he’s severely lacking in the social and strategy departments, and has very little chance at winning this thing. Whereas the “Becky & Vanessa Mutual Hatred Club” is the entertainment gift that keeps on giving! These chicks are completely obsessed with each other and want to do the Electric Slide on each other’s graves…….. good times!

    It took 60 days, but Vanessa has completely lost the trust of all remaining players with her “balls-out, manipulate everyone” style. Yet, she seems to have no idea that anyone is even slightly doubting her….. I don’t think she’s capable of believing that possible. She’s really interesting.

    1. Vanessa actually believes that she’s never wronged anyone in the game, that her word has been good and that she doesn’t play dirty. She wonders why anyone would be upset with her. Self-delusion. The rules don’t apply to her b/c she believes she has valid reasons to break them, but everyone else is held to a perfect standard without exception. If you’ve ever been close to anyone who thinks that way, it’s a serious, serious emotional flaw and makes relationships impossible.

      1. Yes – no accountability and always the victim….. something broken when it comes to self-evaluation. Well, she’s certainly very smart and I’m sure she’s a fine person in the outside world, but it’s got to be beyond frustrating at times for her friends and loved ones if she does indeed exhibit these behaviors in her everyday life.

        1. By definition a narcissist. The BB house does magnify flaws, but I imagine that at the least she has definite tendencies in her real life. It fits with her domineering nature.

  18. Vanessa is such a weak ass bitch. Wanting Liz to tell Becky no deals. Vanessa needs to do her own dirty work. If Liz has any guts Vanessa would be her backdoor option. Big move for jury votes if she makes it to the end. John still viewed as floater and no threat and Steve used his opportunity to make bold move to get out Jackie….who mostly just talked….didn’t really have a power position even when she won her hoh. I was team Steve from the beginning but I’m not seeing him as so smart a player. He is going to get mashed between John and Vanessa.
    I’m enjoying this season but at this point I’m not really pulling for anyone. I will give Vanessa props for being teflon coated though.

    1. No Vanessa fan here,,but weak She aint…I dont know if She is as strong as it has appeared, or that the ensemble around Her is just that bad

      Calling Her weak would be like calling James tall, or Meg as a Comp threat..or the Twins as intelligent

  19. STEVE YOU STUPID LITTLE JERK, YOU JERK, YOU JERK!!!!!!!!!! You are just so weird, uncanny, eerie, unnatural, supernatural, unearthly, otherworldly, ghostly, mysterious, strange, abnormal, unusual; eldritch;
    informal, creepy, spooky, freaky ALL OF THOSE synonyms AND MORE!!!!!!!
    You started this mess and I cant wait until they vote you out. YOU JERK, YOU JERK!!!!!!

    1. Strange thing is Steve is probably in the safest spot right now. Working with Vanessa and the twins plus Austin. He’s also got some tread with JMac. Even the goblins think he was manipulated by Vanessa. No one is looking at Steve as a serious target.

  20. So Becky will get the axe, or Johnny will if She wins POV

    Then James will get zapped

    Our only hope is Jmac surviving and winning HOH

    Vanessa will keep Steve in Her pocket and if She wins HOH will break up the 3 faces of skank (Austwins)

    If the little midget James and Clueless Useless Meg would have not flipped, the game would have a much better out look

  21. OK I get it. You all think Austin is creepy. I agree with you. Austin and Liz are an item because LIZ GOES ALONG WITH IT. Saying Austin is raping Liz, molesting Liz, is the farthest thing from the truth. Liz promotes it, plain and simple. Get over it! She has stated that she has feelings for him now, whether we like it or not. Can we discuss game instead of the odd match those two make please? So tired of the same old crap taking up space on these pages. We get it!!!

  22. I really hate and am disgusted by Austin and Liz. Why do they want to target John? Their reason is because John is in the DR too much. Shut their BS, they are jealous they are not in DR as much as John. Let me guess why are they not in DR? because they are puppets and they are gross and disgusting and they are not entertaining. I really hope John will win the POV again. That is the only chance he can stay. I hope he will get out of serious trouble because he will not have the vote to stay and he is the target of the disgusting couple this week. I really feel bad for John because he has to fight hard every week to stay in this game since he has no alliance to protect him and plays the game independently. I hope John will pull this one off. I am afraid John will be evicted this week.

  23. Dear Simon: Nice ooops on the grid! I went to bed last nite all happy that Becky had won HOH & dreaming of all the possibilities/scenarios for the goblins. Van going up with Liz, Austin/Steve….oh endless noms…..
    Woke up this morning to oops!
    Guess I have had a little taste of being “backdoor nominated” & the game turning on a dime. LOL!

    But seriously, you & Dawg do a GREAT job on this site! Everyone should buy through your Amazon link!
    C’mon….support these guys that work so hard to keep us up on the game!

      1. Don’t piss off Liz or she might put you on the block…It’s going to be a painful week listening to the twins.

        I’m sorry Simon and Dawg…I’d suggest a drinking game for every time they drag out their words like 80’s preteen valley girls, but after the bro and dude thing, I’m not sure your livers can survive.

  24. Things have been entertaining these past few weeks, but with the last two evictions prior to Jackie going to jury the wrong decision was made both times. And it has drastically changed how things would be right now.

    Clay volunteers to go home, so they give him what he wants? It made little sense for anyone to do that that wasn’t certain they were strongly aligned with Shelli. You shoulda sent Shelli packing and kept the weak, unmotivated Clay in the house. It would’ve been beneficial to everyone that wasn’t certain they were working with Shelli.

    And the decision that occurred during Becky’s HOH is such an embarrassment – especially so from JJM. The most controlling player in the game is on the block. You have the votes to get her out. And what do you do? You let her manipulate you into voting Shelli out instead even though you’re aware manipulating people into doing what she wants is how she’s become the strongest player in the game to begin with.

    It was such a truly awful choice by them.

    And now, while it’s nice to hear the Austwins talking about how they will need to take Vanessa out, they are choosing to keep her around for the time being. Hence, giving her one more week to last longer in the game. And then she’ll find a way to do the same all over again the next week and the one that follows and so on and so on.

    And hell, even if they do send her to jury once they feel the time is right, that would just leave the Austwins in a strong position to be the final three. Does anyone really want to see one of those three win?

    Earlier in the game the people on the other side of the house should have been smart enough to get Liz the hell out so that her sister wouldn’t get in – especially when realizing Austin was in good with Liz and that having Julia join made for a tight trio.

    I don’t know… Just kinda thinking outloud right now. It amazes me how people in this game can be so easily led into making poor decisions rather then go about truly doing what would put them in the best position to win it all.

    If you’re ruled by fear then you are easily manipulated. And while playing the game that way might help you last longer, it also leaves you as the first to go once the number of houseguests gets down to a point where you are on the outside looking in within your own group.

    Hell, at this point I’m almost hoping that best case scenario here is that Austin truly is the ultimate player. That he got in good with Liz to get in good with her sister while knowing they were aligned with Vanessa and then he also managed to play things cool with pretty much everyone else in the house.

    By all of his actions he hasn’t only kept a target off his back, but he’s insulated himself against attackers by being down with the twins (+Vanessa). In other words those three are more likely to be targeted before he is by most, if not all, in the house. I don’t really believe he has this worked out in his head as a plan to truly win it all – not at this point anyway – but maybe he does.

    Maybe his whole thing with Liz is just part of the game and he’s figuring, “Hell, while I’m here I might as well lie back, have some fun with a girl… who just so happens to have a twin… which just so happens to benefit me tremendously in this game… especially since I’m on the good side of Vanessa and have her thinking I don’t have any clue that she’s working me just as much as she’s working everyone else… I’m in a damn good spot!”

    And on top of that, he’s sealed it by having a pretty good bond with James. So that leaves JohnnyMac, Steve, and Becky to bother with. And well, he doesn’t really have to because others will take care of those three for him.

    Ya know what, I’ve talked myself into it (at this particular moment anyway), I’m pulling for Austin!

  25. really hate and am disgusted by Austin and Liz. Why do they want to target John? Their reason is because John is in the DR too much. Shut their BS, they are jealous they are in DR not as much as John. Let me guess why are they not in DR? because they are puppets and they are gross and disgusting and they are not entertaining. I really hope John will win the POV again. That is the only chance he can stay. I hope he will get out of serious trouble because he will not have the vote to stay and he is the target of the disgusting couple this week. I really feel bad for John because he has to fight hard every week to stay in this game since he has no alliance to protect him and plays the game independently. I hope John will pull this one off. I am afraid John will be evicted this week.

  26. I don’t agree with you “T”. I think up to this point John has done just the minimum to stay in the game. He has won only when he needed to, and slept and moped around the house in his pj’s all season. He doesn’t even comb his damn hair. He does nothing socially to promote alliances with anyone other than Steve. He bawled like a baby when Jeff and Clay left, and gave Jeff a stupid vote knowing full well the guy was leaving. Just don’t understand why everyone is totally in love with this guy. I actually think this guy needs a blood transfusion to give him some energy.

  27. smart to keep van till after a jury member returns.. NOBODY including the austwins will take her to the end.. her time will come.. hoping jackie gets that sweet revenge.. still standing by final 3 james austin meg..

    1. JMM should have been nicer to Steve when they had the chance, but they were in power for two weeks, calling the shots, and got too comfortable.

      If players aren’t as capable of winning competitions, I think their social game needs to be especially good to make up for it – and instead JMM were cliquey, and took Steve for granted.

      There’s a reason Jackie’s sitting in the jury house right now, and it has nothing to do with choosing to keep Vanessa over Shellie.

  28. It’s looking like Johnny Mac needs to win veto or he’s going home! Did I actually hear Austin have a Strategy, other than his goal of sleeping with Liz. To use Becky to get out Vanessa! Lol! I am kinda liking Brass Tracks minus Vanessa, but please my favorite player Johnny Mac must be saved!

  29. People are stupid not to target Liz earlier especially during the Double Eviction. Liz is the only one holding together the Aus-Twins alliance. Austin and Julia don’t even like each other!

  30. James and Meg now have some very powerful info. Info that they could use to split up the house after this week. With Austwins telling JM that Vanessa is the sixth person on the side. They have what they need to fracture the big alliance. They tell Vanessa that and it is over, done.

    Now are they smart enough to use that info after this week. Probably not.

      1. Huh? Brass tacks didn’t exist. What I am getting at here is, Van isn’t a part of brass tacks. In a round about way they told JM last night that Van is expendable. They can use that info, Van would go nuts. But they have to wait until this week is over. They could actually use Van to further themselves in the game.

        1. Brass Tacks, LOL. Brass Tacks doesn’t exist now. That’s a fantasy alliance to keep Meg and James in line this week so that they vote the way Austin wants them to.

    1. Liz would probably throw Meg or James up if that happened..So I doubt things would get that interesting..Whoever didnt win POV would be going home

      What interesting thing did You think might happen ? They put Vanessa up ? They already tried and failed at that

      1. I get this feeling Austin doesn’t want to put up J or M. He wants to build trust with them. He truly wants to work with them. POV being used puts a wrench in that plan. Liz will not want to put up Steve.

  31. This is where women and their emotions get in the way. Becky and Van are on the outside looking in, with both their alliances. If they crossed referenced info. They could forum very powerful duo and pull in Jmac/Steve. But they won’t, because women like to hold grudges.

  32. I am going to be so disappointed if they take out J-Mac this week. These HGs aren’t too bright. Wish one of them had a brain.

  33. Austin is just as useless as Meg..The bigger targets in their group have always been Vanessa and Shelli..He couldn’t of aligned himself with anyone better..They should of NEVER allowed the other twin in the game..(knowing they knew she was coming in) …This is the worst spot for the goblins, unless they can align themselves , as brasstacs, and convince the assstwins to get out vanessa.., unprobable, but they can try..I really don’t want JMAC to go, the only one with the real problem with him is austin..Other than that Austin is USELESS just like Meg..what have you seen him win in this game/? I can’t remember him winning anything The Goblins should of been studying last night, instead of whining about the other side…you can’t stop to cry about spilt milk, especially this far in the game…All the twins and Vanessa did last night is study before the last hoh. thats why they won, no one else was studying..

    1. ‘Couldn’t of’ and ‘should of’ – what do they mean? Or did you mean ‘couldn’t have’ and ‘should’ve’? Because that makes sense.

  34. Ugh I’m going to skip the feeds this week. I don’t mind Austin, but can’t watch the cuddling/kissing in the HOH room for 7 days.

    Can we get a twist? Wth?

  35. Can’t wait until the house evicts Becky. She is guilty herself of all those things that she accused Vanessa of doing. Becky is a negative, criticizing, lying, emotional lunatic.

    Can you imagine what it would be like to have her as your manager? I trust her people are watching this and can see what a crazy person she is. Maybe her employer can provide free therapy. She needs to deal with her demons!

    I pity the poor fellow who marries her. What a nightmare he would be walking into.

    1. Actually, I find her very level headed. She contained herself when JJM flipped the Vanessa vote on her. In terms of lying, come on, it’s a game and they are all lying. She is not typically critical or judgemental. She is understandably disgusted by Vanessa’s game play. Even then, she did say that outside of the house they would have probably been friends.

  36. What a horrible double eviction night! Anybody knows that you need to take out a BIG PLAYER during the double eviction because they do not have time to campaign all week. The idiot savant STEVE should have put up Liz/Austin and then if anyone used the veto, they would take down Austin and put up that horrible bitch VANESSA. Liz would be the pawn, ensuring Vanessa goes home because there would be no way her sister or Austin would vote her out. Or they could of just put Vanessa up with Liz to begin with. Either way, taking out Jackie was the stupidest and most boring episode of big brother history!

  37. After this last conversation of their’s I feel pretty good. I wonder how long this feeling will last? Till the next post maybe?

  38. I really am going to miss Jackie. The goblins are not the same without her. Was hoping Becky would go after shelli. And I really don’t understand all the Austin hate. Unless he’s simply being judged on how he looks. Any guy would do the same with a girl who is leading him on and admittedly hoe’ing herself out to him. He’s gullable yes. But even now she says she actually does like him. I just don’t see him as creepy at all. He’s unique in my opinion. I also think he’s playing a good game. He’s adjusted his game accordingly each time he’s associated with someone who is being targeted and has kept himself and the twins off the block. I love jmac but I think when shelli and clay kept putting him up on the block he should have realized he was expendable to them and found a safety net with a different group instead of laying low and being their block boy to win vetos.

  39. Steve wasted the HOH he should have put up Vanessa, Austin or Liz. Jackie is no threat to anyone! It would be justice if Steve went home which could happen if Johnny Mac wins Veto but then again they would probably get rid of Becky if he did.

  40. Bias is blinding people. Sometimes I wonder if we are all watching the same game. JMac needed to play the game. Jmac is dangerous because he keeps floating along without working hard like some of the other’s. Could win just because he’s liked and nothing more.

    1. That is how BB is. Haters don’t watch the show strategically. They want people voted out based on hate.

      Honestly if I was a in the house right not and on the outs. I would see Van sitting there with a giant blinking sign over her head…saying work with me. She is the only one willing to work with anyone, make deals with anyone. She can win comps. Even Becky should be willing to bury the hatchet with her. I do not get how people don’t see the Austwins as a threat.

  41. Liz and Julia need to realize Vanessa was considering BD on Austin to help them! Austin sounds real ready to turn on Vanessa and thinks he’ll get to final two with Liz!!! LOL If the girls were smart they’d turn on Austin before Vanessa!

  42. Seminal moment in the game: James fails to effectively throw the BOTB. His rationale was he did not want to hurt his game by looking too obvious (how has that worked out for you?). They ended up wining by less than a couple of seconds, so it wouldn’t have taken much. Heck, I think he even helped in the end. If he succeeds at losing it, Jackie remains HOH, Austin put up with Liz on the block, Austin sent packing, twins don’t get in.

    While the last few weeks have been very exciting, with this cast of characters, I believe there would have been just as much, if not more, excitement had circumstances played out differently (e.g., I believe the 8 person alliance was a farce and would remained a source of contention).

  43. A few future thoughts…Who does Shelli align with when she comes back? Vanessa, if she’s there. If Jackie comes back…??? If Becky comes back…?? Anyone BUT Vanessa.. Steve or JMac come back…?? James comes back..?? All interesting possible alignments.. Who ever comes back into the game usually gets ousted, but, with these nitwits, who knows.. Just sayin that that person could REALLY make the difference this year, just because when they do come back the remaining HG’s will need them….Badly!! I only say this because of how dumb these people are… I believe that in previous seasons anyone who came back into the house has been mostly hated (harsh word) by the rest, usually. This year is WAY different and I think it will do damage, somewhere, to someone, meaning…..Vanessa! Because we all know she’ll probably still be there and nobody should want to be sitting there next to her in the end…. Should be fun any which way

  44. Steve is very good at playing DUMB…..He maybe socially awkward, but he almost uses it to his advantage..He may go thru a few more evictions without anyone even targeting him, lol He has the best photographic memory, and has proven he can definitely win things..the only problem with his game is aligning himself with Vanessa, she will not continue to tag him along if she’s still in the game..

  45. What people should or could have done is a moot point. What is done is done. The game goes on from here. New plays new alliances.

  46. Anybody that aligns w/ Vanessa to get to the final 2 with her will win..She’s completely unlikeable..part of winning this game, you have to simply be likeable, without trampeling on too many people..taking the emotion out of the game..If she’s in the final 2 she will LOSE..

    1. I have to politely disagree with you, V’land.. How many votes does V have “locked up” in the jury, since we now know who the possible jurors will be? All maybe’s: Shelli, Austwins(3), and Steve? I think everyone else will surely NOT vote her for the money… JMO, but I’m not sold that Julia would give her the nod either, so she MIGHT have 4 votes, at most…Oh but wait, what if she’s sitting there with Meg? In that case she may get all but James n Becky…Just my thoughts on Van final 2

  47. Oh my gaaaaaawduh, Auustiiiiinnnnnuh.

    It’s actually painful watching Liz and Austin. I’m getting super tired of hearing him say “and Johnny Mac goes to the DR a hundred and five times a day!” Dude. You’re sitting there hashing out all these questions for everyone, so just ask him about it! For the love of god, just ask him why he’s being called in there all the time and then move the hell on! If you can ask all the HG’s about all these secret and lies and stories then you can ask him about the DR. Otherwise, do just shut up about it.

  48. ADC were screwed either way, evicting Shelli ensures that if a Sixth Sense member won then at the worst case scenario Becky would be evicted. Steve winning HoH was an anomally(why would anyone waste a DE on Jackie he was better off throwing the comp now people are goin to view him as a legitimate comp threat). It isn’t a simple black and white decision, Vanessa though a powerful player is a bigger target and is worse in the physical comps. If Shelli stayed she had a great chance to slip by if she got any further Austwins nor Jmac/Steve/Becky would vote her out. Shelli was an idiot, she didnt even try to hide the fact that she was targetting ADC and they were her votes, nor did she attempt to make any deals even if they were fake. Her campaign was basically “hey ya’ll keep me in nothing was my fault”. She had a lot of information she could have used against Vanessa such as the Sixth Sense, but utilized none of it.

    ADC’s biggest flaw in the game was not immersing themselves enough into the game, especially the social aspect of it. I love Jackie, Meg, and James, but they were really “cliquey” and didnt bother to make bonds with members outside of their group. I hope Jackie returns and plays harder she has great potential and sees right through Vanessa, it’s a shame we never got to see her reign as HoH when she wasnt dethroned.

    Vanessa’s best move in this game was building up that relationship with Shelli during the first weeks. Vanessa, Austin, Jace, and Liz were the outcasts the first week, but Shelli hated her alliance and wanted to allign with Vanessa because she trusted her more. Shelli is the reason why Vanessa is in the good position that she is. Their back to back HoH wins(4 weeks) allowed them to switch up the house dynamics. I assure you guys Vanessa will make a move against Austwins at some point she is not stupid enough to take them to the f4. She probably wont actively nominate them but she should pkant some seeds of doubt and would probably regain that trust with Steve and use him to target her own alliance as NONE of them are taking her to the f2 over Liz.

    Ironically I think Austin will be the downfall to Vanessa’s game. He is already irritated that she is trying to take control of Liz’s HoH and when Van was about to be evicted they quickly turned on her, but then when the vote switched they hated shelli instead. Today Julia Vanessa’s most trusted ally learned that Vanessa told James to throw the BotB and that just makes them distrust Vanessa even more. If I were to pick a winner now it’d be Julia. She has 3 shields: Vanessa, Austin, and Liz. Before she has a chance to win though she needs to make some moves.

  49. Meg, John, James or Becky… one will go home. They would need to win back to back hoh. Vanessa and one twin gone. Only way they have a shot at winning.

    Basically they are toast. Vanessa back at the leader board to winning. I really don’t think she will get the jury votes. Shelli and Jackie already hate her. And pretty much everyone in the house is starting to hate her.

  50. Similar to when Aaryn was evicted and Amanda & Stinky refused to vote Andy out this is the exact same situation. James Meg and Jackie should have voted for Shelli to stay? WHY? Because the other side wanted Vanessa. Explain to Shelli that you guys are the reason she is staying in this game and her own allies don’t have her back and you have a number. Thinking Vanessa going to just go after Becky and Shelli will come after them once they save her is unbelievably dumb. If the house is split and the other side wants someone to stay, how do you think it is beneficial for your side if they stay too? Especially when you have the tie breaker. I remember thinking about that Aaryn moment as the complete nail in the coffin for Amanda & Stinkys game as they couldn’t see that the other side wanted Andy and maybe he was smart enough not to be loyal. Again Meg, James & Jackie deserve to lose (and 100% they will) by making the worst moves the entire game with the exception of breaking up Shelli and Clay one week (not a very hard move to figure out btw). Vanessa is running circles around their minds its funny to watch but kinda disappointing how little intelligence they possess. It’s like bringing a knife to a gun fight.

  51. Am I the only one who found Steve’s letter from home odd?

    Strange list of family updates – and sounded strangely stilted. It could simply be a reflection of where he gets his social awkwardness from….but it vaguely occurred to me that – if Steve and mom were superfans, watched past seasons together, and she is his biggest champion and the one whose opinion he constantly reflects in his Steve-to-camera strategy talks…is it possible they had agreed on some kind of secret code in his HOH mail?

    I know that sound overly skeptical and conspiracy-ish….but seriously….that odd laundry list of family news…??

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