Michael “Essentially Kyle pitched to me.. an all white alliance.”

Quick Big Brother Spoilers

Head of Household:  Turner
Nominees: Taylor and Brittany
POV Players: Turner, Taylor, Brittany, Alyssa, Monte, Michael
POV Winner: Michael
Veto Ceremony:
Havenots: 

Lock your ranks in before midnight

12:15pm Havenot room – Brittany, Michael and Alyssa.
Alyssa – but now everything is out on the table and we don’t know how this game is going to play out. Michael – legitimately everything. Alyssa – I wish I had more to give about my game. I very much appreciate you letting me in and now we can just move forward. Michael – its a lot to throw on you. Brittany – now you have a history of everything that happened since week 2 and now we just move forward. Alyssa – I am going to take time to process this and I hope I don’t have to have this conversation again with Kyle later but.. Brittany – and if you have any questions .. like I am sure you’re not going to get the exact same conversation from Kyle as you got from us. Michael – call me in and I will say everything I said to you in front of Kyle. Brittany – me too. Michael – I mean I would rather not have Kyle know all of this but if it comes down to that because I know you and him have a close personal relationship and I am not going to expect you to just flip that switch off and like I am done with Kyle. And like this was probably not smart for my game for me to share some of this stuff about what Kyle has said but I would rather lose the game than sit on stuff that Kyle has said .. And I am willing to say that to his face. And I will say yup Kyle I am pitching for you to go home this week. Brittany – and since you and Turner are closest with Kyle you deserve to know and just play your own game and make your own decisions. We’re not trying to say that you need to do anything about that. I would just hate if I were in your shoes to find out later and be like oh my god Brittany and Michael knew this is what they were a part of and they didn’t tell me?! Alyssa – I really really appreciate that. And whenever you talk to Turner. Michael – I will talk to him as soon as I can. Alyssa – then maybe him and I can have a conversation about it. Then I’ll take time to process later and hopefully I can still go see a movie with you. Alyssa leaves. Michael – I feel at peace no matter what happens. Brittany – honestly doing this at the end of the day .. even if it causes me to go home how I would live with myself afterwards. Like I am so on the same page with you. I am just so glad that you came to that conclusion and brought that to my attention because that is how I would feel and I would have that regret. Michael – oh I would have .. and if I had won.. great but I still would have left this experience with regrets. This probably isn’t smart for our games. And I never thought I would come in here and be like this is not the smart game move. Brittany – and this comes back to thinking about who I want to be. This challenges this a lot! Michael – and about what made Kyle feel comfortable .. like I should have spoken up more.



1:12pm Bedroom – Kyle and Alyssa.
Kyle – sorry for last night. I was upset and tired. I am sorry. I felt bad and you were down there with Michael and I wanted to be up with you. Alyssa – I just didn’t know what to say. Kyle – I feel dumb.

1:20pm HOH room – Turner and Michael
Michael – There is some information that I’ve had for about two weeks or so and I have been kind of struggling what to do with and I am just going to lay it out on the table because I don’t know if you’re even aware of this but your name has kind of been brought into it. Its going to be uncomfortable. Turner – I have some information that I am going to be uncomfortable sharing too .. so just as long as we’re in the same boat. Michael – essentially Kyle pitched to me … like kind of planting seeds during my first HOH and then a little more but basically pitched to me an all white alliance. Turner – WHoa! Michael – this is very uncomfortable and I would never ever ever make up this in a million years. Tuner – I know that. Michael – but essentially what it came down to and how it started was back on my first HOH he was looking ahead in the game to when the leftovers get to seven. He said how I see the alliance broken down .. Monte, Joseph, Taylor are close and at that point I was like I don’t really see them as a trio but whatever .. he was saying that he was seeing them being close but that me, you and Brittany.. like those were the divisions and he was like we could have Alyssa as our number because I think that Indy, Jasmine and Terrance are closer with Monte, Joseph and Taylor and I think they’re going to turn and pick us off first. I remember thinking I don’t necessarily see the breakdown being that way but also like thinking about how the optics of that don’t look good. Turner – yes for sure! Michael – And then at the end of my HOH he was about to say something and then he said no I can’t say that I am going “to get cancelled” if I say that. And then the following week on Taylors HOH after he won the veto and he was safe for the week. Brittany and I were having a conversation and he came out a little more explicitly said the five of us should work together and Taylor not wanting to put Jasmine up and send a black woman home on her HOH is a concern and the words that I know and I will quote “as a straight white male that” and this part I will paraphrase ..but the sentiment was that makes me uncomfortable if decisions are being made on that because that is going to put me on the bottom of the totem pole. I was very uncomfortable about that. And then he had further conversations about like relating it to the cookout .. the cookout last year all had a unifying goal and that is what brought them together and I see that is what is happening and they’re going to pull in and basically naming the other persons of colour in the game. I don’t feel good about just holding this information. He was basically saying .. I mean he has always said that he’s had you and Alyssa.

Brittany joins them. Michael – I just wanted to bring this to you because he is putting your name in it. Turner – I am sure you’re the same I don’t like someone saying my name in a group setting without me knowing especially when that is the backing behind it. I mean YUCK! Brittany – you can see how’s something like this goes beyond game and brings in reality. Turner – Oh for sure .. very messy and uncomfortable! Brittany – just really messy and uncomfortable. There were a few initial conversations… like I guess because I wasn’t seeing things like that I didn’t internalize what he was saying or suggesting what was happening inside the house. So I guess for me there needed to be more rounds of confirmation before I would bring it to anyone else. Like what evidence is that based in .. because I am not seeing that it is playing out that way. We are even having conversations like where are these groupings coming from!? Like MoJo workouts I could see that. I was like where is this coming from. So then we had a one on one conversation and I was like look at what you’re suggesting here like just look.. and he was like and he was like BUT the COOKOUT. And I was like AghHhhh.. Like my mind didn’t even go there. I was like maybe he is suggesting something that he is not even realizing. I was just like heads up do you recognize what you’re saying .. he was not like oh my god Brittany.. I can’t believe it. I didn’t think of it that way. SH*t! When the answer wasn’t that it was BUT actually.. we saw the cookout last year. For me that was.. Michael – and I want to say that I don’t think that Kyle is a bad person .. I don’t think he was doing these things maliciously. Like I don’t want this to come out like I am coming up here just to sh*t talk Kyle. Turner – this information isn’t going to leave this room. And if I did tell Kyle you would know because he would freak out. Like this makes me almost emotional because I hate that. That is the worst thing I’ve heard in my entire life. Brittany – I would regret at the end of the day if I went home and didn’t say this and not doing anything about it.. it really questions the person I want to be. Michael – obviously we didn’t agree to be a part of that but even just staying silent and allowing that to happen around us .. like I still don’t even feel okay with that. Brittany – I feel like I did that with Taylor when Daniel was going after her and I just sat there. We’re just presenting this to you and obviously you do with it what you will. I was just trying to think if I were Turner and I was inadvertently in an alliance .. in a side of the house that I did not know where that reasoning might have been based from … like I would hate for you to find that out by watching back the season later. Turner – oh definitely. I now understand why you introduced that this was going to be uncomfortable. I am glad you told me that. Michael – I just don’t want to leave here whether I win or lose and know that I sat on this information and potentially let decisions stem from here. Turner – please be honest .. if Taylor goes home on my HOH would you guys be pissed? Michael – I wouldn’t be pissed based on what she has said and throwing me into conversations that have never happened. Brittany – personally I am very good friends with her and we have talked game.

2:08pm Bedroom – Alyssa and Kyle.
Kyle – I just feel alone.. I don’t know what is going on Michael and Brittany are up with Turner. Like what do you think they’re saying to him? Did they (Michael/Brittany) talk about splitting from the leftover and joining with you and Turner at all? Alyssa – yeah. Kyle – is there anything new they brought up? Alyssa is silent and really uncomfortable. Kyle – please just tell me if there was .. was there anything else? Alyssa – I just don’t know if its my place to say that. They pretty much made it sound like you were going against other people in the house ..like not giving Monte, Taylor, Joseph a fair shot… like working with them almost. Kyle – why? Alyssa – I don’t know… like because they could have possibly formed a cookout thing. Kyle – like a race thing is want they’re pitching that I was saying? Alyssa – yeah. Kyle – Alyssa this is like bigger than game… this would ruin my life if this is what they’re pitching. Like I would leave the game if this is what they’re pitching. DO you believe them? Alyssa – no. Kyle – have I ever made this a race thing… like do you understand this is life changing if that is there pitch.. Like what do I do!?!? That is not true at all!! All I ever said was their reasons for being on the show are strong .. Like Joseph fighting with his mom. Taylor fighting for women. Like what do I do!?! Alyssa – talk to them. Kyle – they’re up there with Turner. They’ve already pitched it to Monte. Now they’re telling everyone but me ..painting me as a racist?!?! Like I am going to leave the game. Alyssa – don’t freak out. Kyle – what do you mean?! They’re calling me a racist trying to start a white thing. Alyssa – that’s not what they were saying. Kyle – what are they saying? That I didn’t want to work with them because of their skin color? Alyssa – no. I don’t think so… just that you brought it to their attention that you didn’t want a cookout thing to form. But they didn’t say that you were gunning for them because of that. Kyle – how can they do that… like Alyssa I am going to leave the game. If that is what they’re pitching.. like nothing is worse.. Like what do I do?! Alyssa – go up there and talk to them. Kyle – oh my god! Kyle leaves.



2:30pm HOH room – Turner talking to the cameras.
Turner – I am freaking out! I never thought that I might be convinced that Kyle might not be the best for my game but I feel like I have almost be convinced. WHY would you pitch an all white alliance!!?? Like what are you doing!?! What two brain cells do you have in your brain ..thinking one that that is a good idea and two thinking that is appropriate and three thinking that I would want to be involved?!?? I have no idea what to think. I never thought that someone could convince me that Kyle would be bad for my game but Michael has somehow convince me … but that is what Michael does he convinces people of things. I think Kyle might end up on the block tomorrow because I am going to have to put up a replacement nom. Taylor is still my target but damn they are good at this game because I have been convinced. Did I just hear them say an all white alliance is what Kyle is pitching because that is weird and suspicious .. that is just sus all around. I don’t like it. I hate it actually. And knowing they’re on tv I don’t see kyle’s intention of it being an all white alliance to be the opposite of what the cookout did. You don’t just say that knowing cameras are around .. you don’t just say that unless you want to be cancelled up the a$$! I don’t think that was a lie actually. It freaks me out if Kyle was pitching that with my name involved what the hell!? I don’t want any part of that. Taylor is still worse for my game. I still might put Kyle up so that I can be in good with them and so that I’ve done that. I would need a reason for Kyle.. my friggen word!

2:45pm – 3pm HOH room – Monte and Turner.
Monte – people have been bringing me up to speed on the whole Michael/Brittany and Kyle thing. Turner – what is it? Monte – like that he wanted to form a group with… Turner – yeah. Okay I just wanted to make sure we’re on the same page. Monte – at first I was very hesitant to believe it because Kyle has been very transparent from the beginning but them I wanted to talk about last week. Turner – the one saving grace is I don’t think anyone would lie about that on camera. Monte – right. Turner – Like dude! If you’re lying about that .. you are F**KED in the outside world. Monte – yeah. That is one very logical reason why I am going to have to believe them. Secondly they kept bringing up very specific things that happened that we know about. Turner – I just want you to know that I wasn’t apart of it AT ALL! Monte – no dude. I know you would not have any support of that at all just from your conversations about your support of black lives matter. So I know where your heart is. And also your respect for the culture. Turner – I think that he had pitched that he is a straight white male… and I am not that. Monte – so they pointed out Taylor not wanting to put up a black woman and that is her own reasoning with Jasmine. That could have been an option that week but it wasn’t because of how she felt. Then he brought up and I only talked to him about this and this is kind of f**ked up… this is how I kind of lost trust .. I told him… or he confronted me about a conversation I had with Ameerah about wanting to work together. He was like yo is that true. And I say yeah it is true. I said I saw her as a strong black woman in this game that I wanted to work with and we just talked about that from a surface level. Like nothing past that… so he used that to try and say to Michael and Brittany to say that I am working with Terrance of all people that had been yelling and screaming to get me out of the house for the last three weeks. And Jasmine that I just went up on the block against to make sure her a$$ went home. Joe which I can see that because we have always been tight. And then Taylor ..like we just started working with her a couple weeks ago or a month ago.. And she was trying to get me and you out. So for him (Kyle) to come to the conclusion that me and the other black people are working together is just like .. Turner – it is so obvious that it isn’t. Monte – it isn’t. It was just really sad to hear that. Turner – It just doesn’t make any sense. Like there is racism involved in trying to loop all of you together even when that isn’t the case. And I hate that and I was almost getting emotional when Michael and Brittany were telling me. Monte – I think you putting Kyle up makes the most sense given everything that everyone knows. Turner – I am definitely going to put him up. I just don’t know who… Big Brother blocks the feeds..


3:18pm Still blocked.. (I think its pretty certain Kyle will self evict over all of this..)

3:54pm The live feeds return.
HOH room – Alyssa and Turner.

Alyssa – who is the third person (going to the movie screening)? Is it Brittany? Turner – Brittany said he didn’t have to pick her. Maybe Taylor. I don’t know. Alyssa – that would be fun. Turner – yeah that would be a fun group. Probably not Kyle. Alyssa – yeah no way, not Kyle. Turner – he is going to have to be here with Monte and them. Oh my god this is a messy week. Alyssa – yeah that was so heavy this morning. All that Brittany mentioned what that there was something beyond game that she needed to talk to me about Kyle. Big Brother switches the feeds.

Feeds switch back. Alyssa – we shall see what happens with our lives and at the end of the day I support anything that you make (putting up Kyle as the renom) any decision and I love you. Turner – oh dude love you as well. Turner – when I make the decision, it is probably going to be the only decision that I make based off both personal and game because I don’t like it but I am going to do it with you and myself in mind. Obviously this will affect us both. If I don’t put him on the block unless there is some other house meeting or explosion then I am just going to make myself a target because everybody is on the same page right now. So I am probably going to put him up. I will probably tell Michael and Taylor in the same room as well. I will let you know before hand but I will let you know before tomorrow afternoon as well. Alyssa – will you cut your longer mustache hairs because some are longer than others. (oh my no comment about Kyle going up just straight into the mustache hairs.) Alyssa – thank you for letting me know and for giving me the heads up. Turner – if you ever need to talk I am always here for you. Terrance and Monte .. that’s a solid group to keep moving forward with… and whatever happens with Kyle I hope there is a house meeting to get some clarity. I know its going to be uncomfortable no matter what I just hope for best case scenario. Turner – honestly between us .. best case scenario .. I hope it happens after the veto ceremony so that I don’t have anymore pressure about who the f**k else to put up on that god damn block. And then people can decide if that argument is valid or not. Not so that he doesn’t get the proper chance to defend himself but so that I don’t have to… Big Brother switches the feeds.

4:15pm – 4:30pm Meanwhile – Monte, Brittany, Michael and Terrance are in the kitchen making or watching the dinner being made. Terrance and Monte talk about how Kyle has been in the diary room for a long time. Monte – its dead silent in here. Terrance – just replaying it in my mind.. Brittany and Michael would never jeopardize their game like that. Big Brother blocks the feeds again..

5:40 pm Feeds on pound
6:15 pm No feeds wtf?
7:00 pm NO feeds for you


7:27 pm Feeds return. they were down for the movie screening.


7:33 pm Kyle out of the Diary room
Movie screening snacks and drinks..

7:43pm Backyard – The house guests got the backyard back again..

Brittany is upset. Brittany – that was brutal the none movie house. Taylor – oh really?! Brittany – yeah. Turner – are you alright? Brittany – yeah. Taylor – do you want to talk about it? Brittany – not really. Taylor – hammock? Brittany – yeah that would be nice. Probably the hardest day of my life. Taylor – the right things aren’t easy. Brittany – oh man guys. Taylor – you did a lot of hard work. Brittany – no one wins.. that’s what I came to the consensus… no one .. Big Brother blocks the feeds again..


8:26pm Still blocked.

9:02pm More blocked than not..

9:40pm Still nothing..

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Chelsea

Cancel Kyle !! Haha all his skeletons are coming out !

Dreamer

Wow. It’s not a joke asking to cancel someone, especially someone like Kyle, who is not racist at all. He was paranoid, but no way in hell did I observe anything racist in him.
This is what is wrong with the world today. That urge to cancel someone without justifiable reason.

Deloris Matthews

Yes he’s a racist

Sean

Then so was the cookout.

Jimmy

Are you?
Cookout was racist by evicting only non black houseguest.Taylor racist by not putting up a black girl….once again…Are You ?????

Sean

I’m far from it, alot of my family is non white, are you???

John

Last year Big Brother was rigged and now if a white person wins then he racist

Kathy

that’s right stick by your people, and maybe you could teach Kyle to do the same. Just so you understand, the cook-out took advantage of a once in a life opportunity that fell in their hands, they had no idea coming into the house the opportunity would present itself. BTW a Black person had never won this game because Big Brother had to many racist to choose from and they played the same game that Kyle wanted to play the same old game tried a** racist game that has always been played on Big Brothers and you can’t handle it.

bbEricfan

I hate this take more than I hate Kyle as a BB player.

He’s selfish in the game (no one else in LO had a +1).

He’s extremely immature.

He’s very paranoid.

He has unconscious biases (don’t we all?).

He also has a recency bias. (Remember, the Cookout was just a year ago. Of course people were going to be wary — at least, internally — about another similar alliance forming.)

That said, he should have never vocalized what he vocalized and how he vocalized it. Not in 1922. Not in 2022.

But that doesn’t make him a racist. Insensitive, yes. Unaware, yes. Racist? None of us knows.

I hope he uses this as an opportunity to better himself.

Funfame

Wrong LO +1 – Britney and Michael, Taylor and Joseph. Everyone is paranoid in big brother it’s obvious you don’t watch the shows very much

bbEricfan

I should have been more clear. No one else in the LO had a +1 outside the LO. This wasn’t Brigade or Cookout in which +1s were a central tenet to the strategy of “hiding” the alliance and keeping each other safe.

As for the second part, I’ll take assumptions for $100, Alex.

I’ve been watching the show since BB5. Picked up the BB After Dark habit on Showtime 2 during BB8. Picked up feeds in BB11, although since BB16, cut back on the feeds until the past month, when this season got interesting.

Amanda

I agree he’s not a racist he’s paranoid. This plan of M&B is garbage. If Kyle leaves because of this I’m done with BB. This issue is not a ploy in a Game!

It's me

He is not

Jimmy

Are you???
Cookout racist because they ONLY evicted non blacks.Taylor a racist by not putting up a black girl.A white houseguest does or says something similar,he’s called a racist…..Once again..Are YOU ???????IF a white houseguest says,I’m not going to put up another white houseguest,he or she would be removed from show immediately!!!

Sean

I’m with you, I don’t think he ment it as a racist thing at all and if hes racist so was last year’s cookout. I liked Mike until he brought in the race card.

yvonne miller

The cookout was not racist. The cookout were not mean. The cookout did not ostracize the other house guest. The cookout did not call people scumbags. The cookout did not claim to be threatened and afraid by the strong white men as Kyle claimed to be afraid of Terrence. The cookout did not say all of the white people were loud as Kyle has said about his black house guest. I believe he is a racist and very selfish.

Palm Oil's Meds

Why is calling an obvious racist a racist is worse than the actual act of racism? Stop gaslighting.

America’s Favorite

Canceling isn’t a thing. Kyle will be, and is, fine. You don’t have to worry about him.

Kathy

No, the problem is that you can see it and hear it but still defend it. Kyle is a racist and a liar. He was my choice to win until I went back and researched what was being said. Now I hope they vote him out next. The fact that you can defend this dude tells me that you are not Black and haven’t ever faced the hateful disgusting acts of a racist. Do you personally know Kyle? If not, how do you know he isn’t racist, because of his actions? He sold the leftovers first chance he got to make sure his plan was in play. The cook-out stayed, some what loyal to the once in a lifetime opportunity. He came into the house with racial ideas. I don’t expect you to understand but we have heard all the excuses you could ever come up with, so “paranoid” will work for you and I’m sure many of your people, after-all “like-minded” is a thing. Yet, you are right about one thing, “This is what is wrong with the world today.

Avalon

Did you happen to notice, that Kyle never once denied it?

Not once… not a single time during that whole unhinged rant, did Kyle say “I never said that!”.

I wish Alyssa hadn’t told him, because that freak-out that he just had, would have been done in front of the rest of them, had she not.

Kyle has trouble regulating his emotions in the moment — it would have been so much better had she kept her trap shut!

Now he has time to calm down, adapt & course correct, and he’ll know to not get so emotional, argh!

Oh, and btw, Ayssa KNOWS it’s true, because she corroborated what they said by saying that she also told him there was no cookout forming.

Dreamer

Another wow. Do you actually know how vile your comment is? You were actually hoping that Kyle would throw a racist fit for your entertainment?

Kyle did not deny anything because he had said it, but in my observation, not to be racist, but out of paranoia.

I just cringe reading comments like this. That guy doesn’t deserve to be cancelled. He is not racist. He is no Aryn or Gina Marie. He has a life once this is over. Just think about it.

I am actually disappointed in Michael, who was my favorite. He could have thought about the repercussions of his actions.

Damn this cancel culture. It is just so much.

dragonlady59

Agree whole heartedly. This show that has been amazing for years is being ruined by race. What a disappointment. It is a game and should be played as such without race ever being thought of or mentioned. It saddens me to say that the joy of watching this show is now gone. I hope Michael and Brittany realize the damage that they are doing to another person. I believe that Kyle had no malice or racism at heart. Mentioning that he didnt want a cookout 2.0 is NOT racist.

Palm Oil's Meds

People like you that are protecting and making excuses for a racist are racist too. If you don’t like people being called a racist then raise your kids to not hate and to not have biases against people who look different. Simple.

Avalon

Don’t put words in my mouth — you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Show me in my post where I said I wanted Kyle to pitch a “racist fit”?

Show me where I said that Kyle was even a racist?

Show me where in my entire post that I even mentioned the word racist ??

My comment had NOTHING to do with racism, I didn’t even mention that situation except for the last line when I said that Alyssa confirmed that he’d also mentioned the whole cookout to her.

My post wasn’t even about that, my post had to do with Kyle hopefully being brought back down a few pegs, for the way he got everyone in on his lying, scheming & gaslighting of Joseph.
He was positively giddy & walking around with such arrogance, even though he knew Joe was hurt & felt isolated… he didn’t show an ounce of compassion or empathy, even when he was talking to the cameras alone.

I realize this is a game about lying, but Kyle could’ve accomplished the same goal without encouraging & manipulating Alyssa, Terrance & Turner to make Joseph feel uncomfortable, berate & isolate him like he did — and then he arrogantly laughed as he bragged to the cameras about his terrible treatment of Joseph. It was obnoxious.

Kyle had been playing the game really well, but then when the split happened, he took on this polarizing Machiavellian personality, and was so proud of his manipulation & gaslighting (you do remember that weird speech he gave the other day to the live feeds about loving the game, loving America and wanting to make out with America??).

Joseph didn’t deserve to be treated like that and Kyle took pleasure & credit for making him feel that way, with such glee… not once did he mention feeling badly for lying about his “friend” or for hurting his friend, especially after he turned everyone against him.
Kyle showed a lack of empathy & compassion.

So, excuse me if I seem to be lacking empathy for Kyle, while he faces the consequences of his own making.

Melissa G

Exactly,when people show you how they’re Believe it!! Kyle has come across as racist & BB didn’t do anything about it. Taylor has been bullied,Joseph was isolate & then returned inside the house & lie against Joseph.Hope he leaves ..Terrence then Alyssa & Turner.

yvonne miller

He should not be cancelled but, I hope he learns from this. How a lot of people felt the cookout was racist then the white people have been racist for over 20 years on this show. Black people were lucky if they made it to the 6th week. Get over this Cookout being racist bull.

Dee

Yea Kyle got a little paranoid poor thing. You know with the Once a cookout, always a cookout mentality. It didn’t get traction but it was planted and Micheal and Brittany didn’t fuel it because they wanted no parts of it. Haha.

kyle is not offering up Alyssa or himself to go on the block. He don’t want Terrance. He want Monte. And not as a pawn. I bet no sooner Monte on the block he would try to get him voted out. Lol. He only used them Terrance and Monte to get the numbers. Good play too. I don’t fought him for that game move. But with this new info coming out by Micheal and Brittany it’s not a good look.

as a POC myself I do understand his paranoia, cause the cookout was on a mission.
I wouldn’t want him canceled. Nor do I feel bad about M & B bringing it out. Since they were all trying to find out about the difference alliances forming. Well Kyle forgot about the the one that got no traction lol you got to love BB, the ups , downs, and all the crazy talk that go with it. Hilarious ?

Deb

I think it was from paranoria as well since he comes across as not very bright. I am more upset with M/B for holding on to this and using it as a game move instead addressing this with the house as soon as it happened.

Kathy

I agree with the holding on to info and using it for game play. If Michael was so offended by Kyles observation of a potential 2nd cookout scenario happening this season,why did he not bring it to the others straight away. Messy move Michael and Brittany.

yvonne miller

M & B warned him about the optics. He didn’t listen. He turned on his alliance to get Joseph out and every name that comes out of his mouth to evict was a person of color. Damn He put Indy in that bunch because he felt she was a woman of color by her coming from Brazil. Yes, he is racist and if he’s not he should come out and explain himself.

PapaRyan2

As a POC too I didn’t watch last season cuz I knew it would be boring. When I seen 6 POC in the casting I said oh. We’re getting a black winner and it was gonna be boring. Last season was a mission and I can understand why Kyle would be paranoid. It’s a natural conclusion when you see ppls dominate a game with recency bias goggles on. It is what it is. Everyone plays the game differenly. Kyle is not racist tho I would be just as paranoid as him about things from last season if I didn’t really know the game lol

Avalon

When Turner told Monte that Kyle was encouraging him to put up Monte in Brittany’s place, Monte said “yeah, to ensure a black person definitely goes home”.

So, there may be some vibes being picked up in the house.

Sean

But he wasn’t being racist, I too thought Joe, Monte and Taylor were forming another cookout, doesn’t make me a racist if I form my own alliance and there all white people, what else was Kyle suppose to do, sit there and get pegged off when they get to 7. Mike is doing a move that’s personal outside the game IMO, lie cheat is fine but not if it’s about race.

I Spy

Really? When Monte’s original target was Taylor?

Sean

That was before any of this happened

I Spy

But Taylor was still his target when Kyle started talking his nonsense.

Palm Oil's Meds

But none of that was true. He unfairly targeted black people based off skin color not strategy. That’s racism. They were not working together.

yvonne miller

He had the pound. Turner, Kyle, Monte and Joseph. His first alliance. So What does he do? He picked his showmance and betrayed his leftover alliance and his pound alliance. Joe was not the scumbag Kyle was.

Sean

Kyle made a game move, that don’t make him a scumbag, the scumbag is Mike for making this look like a race thing, which it is not.

yvonne miller

He wanted to name the alliance the Silent Minority. That is suspect to me.

Teena

Aren’t you tired?

The Beef

So he never denied it, eh? Can you read?

Kyle – Alyssa this is like bigger than game… this would ruin my life if this is what they’re pitching. Like I would leave the game if this is what they’re pitching. DO you believe them? Alyssa – no.
Kyle – have I ever made this a race thing… like do you understand this is life changing if that is there pitch.. Like what do I do!?!? That is not true at all!! All I ever said was their reasons for being on the show are strong .. Like Joseph fighting with his mom. Taylor fighting for women. Like what do I do!?!
Alyssa – talk to them.
Kyle – they’re up there with Turner. They’ve already pitched it to Monte. Now they’re telling everyone but me ..painting me as a racist?!?! Like I am going to leave the game.

Seems like a pretty strong denial to me. Now you can change your argument to what a liar he is, or you can still say he didn’t use the words “I never said that!”.

Tim

Yeah except he never said it

Chelsea

Lmao yes he did watch feeds from beginning goofball

Dee

I think he knew better not to out right say it. Just imply. Like I said, paranoia set in. And as a “ straight white guy” he was looking out for his own, I mean his game. Lol I understand.

Cardsman247

Yes he did watch the feeds back

Jeff

So taylor is a racist she put up white people because she didn’t want a black person to go home on her hoh Kick her out

Shelly

yes, he said it. It was on the show and, of course, the feeds. Production shouldn’t have aired it, really

I Spy

Said what?

Lorrene

Yes Kyle said that they were in the bathroom on the couch and he was talking to Britney and Michael

Just Sayin'

Kyle always calling taylor and Monte “loud and aggressive ” is crazy to me. Monte is the calmest person I’ve seen on tv in awhile, he’s always mellow. There’s no denying Kyle at least puts bad stereotypes onto people. He needs to reevaluate why he sees them that way

Cat

Implying there just might be another all POC alliance is not a stereotype nor does it make someone racist. It’s a reality. Because it JUST happened last season. Just as implying there might be an all girl alliance doesn’t make a guy a sexist pig. Michael and Brittany are 100% wrong for running with this storyline. Then to claim it’s not for game. Completely BS and I hope it backfires on them. Inside and outside the house. If forming an all POC alliance isn’t racist, then acknowledging the reality that it’s possible, isn’t racist either.

Palm Oil's Meds

No.

Lorrene

Kyle also said Turner look like a Filipino rice farmer because he was wearing that hat with a bandanna. I just don’t think he’s thinking about he is saying and who is listening

Steve

He only said the all white alliance because black people tend to go into all black alliance. You gotta remember that was after the cook out. Then Taylor saying she does not feel comfortable nominating a black woman. All black alliance have happened many times in Big Brother. I don’t believe for one second he is racist. He brought it up and he should have saw this coming though. But I don’t understand why it is ok to base an alliance on any race.

Gmoney

As a poc I get it. But didn’t monte vote out jasmine and didn’t Terrance get rid of Joe? The cookout was 1 season. How many seasons have there been a final 6 that was all white? Should we suspect that all those were racially motivated? Kyle doesn’t seem to me to be a racist. He won’t be cancelled call down everyone

Geez

Monte was sitting next to Jas, so no he did not vote her out.

Cat

You are kidding right? At no time has anyone said “hey let’s form an all white alliance”. However indeed people have said “hey let’s form an all POC” alliance. At no time has anyone said “I won’t put up another white person”. However it’s now normal and completely acceptable to state “I won’t put up another person who is black/POC”

for the record- I’m part Mexican. I see this as very hypocritical.

Lauren Austin

No one ever said it, they just never did it. Due to our history no one would be crazy enough to actually verbalize it so let’s be realistic here. The poc in the cookout felt well within their right to verbalize it because of the history of the game, let’s be clear. The cookout alliance would have had no basis had it not been for the past all white alliances on BB…this is why it was allowed. I’m a poc and this is what is meant when it is said that non poc are unaware and not interested in understanding the difference.

I do wish this show would leave race out of it but I think it was too hard to ignore for poc wanting to be on the show yet fearing they would be targeted first.

Lastly, you can call it racist what Tayler said, but her target that week was Terrance so…there’s that. I don’t think Kyle is racist but his statement under the right circumstances, could have placed a target on all the poc in the house had Michael and Brittany reacted differently.

Cat

And you just defined hypocrisy.

Nurse Nik

Just because they don’t label it an all white alliance, it doesn’t mean that is not their intention. They are not inclusive and that in itself is a bias. Geez. White people are so quick to call not racist but having biases is just as bad.

Cactilily

Nominate and vote out are two different things. She put up Terrance and voted Jasmine out. I REALLY don’t understand why people keep bringing up Taylor not wanting to nominate a black woman. How racist is it of her when she voted her out. It’s a false equivalent that Kyle made : Alyssa vs T not putting up Jasmine. Idk if he’s racist but he definitely has some biases that walk a fine line, from what he’s said. He’s 29 and has social media. He should be a little more aware by his age.

Jonesy

He’s not a Racist! Grow up people!!!!!!

I Spy

Refresh my memory. Other than last year, I don’t recall a season where there’s been enough black people to form an all black alliance.

Surf all day

Name the many black alliances that have happened. Since there were many, as you stated. How many??

Lampshade

I have only watched the show like two years and I saw an all black alliance with David and some girls on an all-star BB.

Big Sister

I am curious. Can you name one of these Black alliances in previous years, excluding the Cookout? I am drawing a blank.

Palm Oil's Meds

Huh? There has never been a black alliance but the Cookout. Usually there are only about 2 black people per season that are immediately excluded the all-white alliances. Let’s not make up stuff and become BB history revisitionist just to protect racism. smh

Raiders1185

Dumb

Raiders1185

Just curious. So it’s ok with you to have a black alliance based on race but not a white alliance based as race?? Please explain to me how both of them is not racist?? I will wait…..

Dee

I’ll try. (Smile) in short the answer is both or race/racist based. However, one has alway been subtle/and not so subtly done within the game of BB. The other was brought to birth by necessity in order to insure a person of color would win. To my knowledge that had never been done, because for the most part they were out numbered.

For some it’s part of a game move in the BB house, for others it’s a game move in and outside the BB house.

hope my answer helps a little.

Tia

This.

Lauren Austin

I’m not that old, nor do I claim to be a historian, however I believe the most obvious sign of racism in America was slavery. Slavery was Whites being racist against poc. Poc have been seen as inferior since. How does it relate?? Systematic racism still exist as we’ve all witnessed. Poc on BB have had to face the same issues in the BB house that they face outside of the house…inferiority. Until the cookout season, the majority of the bb houseguest were usually white…these white houseguest would form an alliance and target blacks for whatever reason (may not have always been about race—could have just been familiarity)…for whatever the reason this is similar to how things were during slavery-out numbered and out powered.

The cookout alliance wanted to fight against that , which is why they formed. Let’s also not forget the reason they were all put in the house at one time to begin with. The network saw the pattern (poc being targeted early) but didn’t do anything about until after the blm movement. It took a whole movement for the cookout to exist…do you really not see the difference…one was the norm…the other was for survival…ban together or give up any chance you may have at a poc ever winning.

Donna

That just plain mean and stupid

The Corey's

Michael won’t let this go. Careful Michael, you’re starting to look like a low key racist there bud.

Anthony

Michael and Brittany is trying to cancel Kyle only because they don’t want to go home. They say, ” Oh we had to say something just in case we go home” Oh please if you thought it was so important to say you say it when it happens not when you can weaponize it. .But of course no they didn’t. They thought Kyle was best for their game so they said nothing. At the time Tayor was planting seeds to form a black group like the cook out. She said she wouldn’t send home a black woman. So in Kyle’s mind its very possible a all black group is forming. What else is left for him to team up with? All white people. So yeah he could think he has to form a all white group. Just by his reactions when talking to all the black folk in the house you can tell he isn’t racist. Its a shame Michael would use such a topic to win this game.

Anthony

I just watched what Kyle said. He lives in that house 24/7. He sees which groups are forming and who likes who. He seen people of color getting close in the house. Tayor even said she would vote out black woman and was close with Joseph. Its not a stretch because of last year with the cookout its not a stretch to think cookout part 2 is forming. If they paired up the only people left in the house are white people so Kyle wanted to start an alliance to combat tcook out part 2. It wasn’t because he want black aganist white. It was to play a game. Once a all black group forms he knows he cant go with them because if he did he’d be the first to be evicted when it gets to cook out part 2 and him. But in todays world your canceled if you say such things.

illegal smile

Daaaaaammmmnn Michael is savage, but true.

MoonCat

Half true. Twisted and manipulated.

Alissa

Michael & Brittney are DISGUSTING twisting things to get Turner to put up Kyle. Absolutely horrible, vile people.

Robert

There wasn’t much twisting in what Kyle said if you watched the feeds early on in the game

Alissa

I did watch them, not one thing he said can be misconstrued as racist, simply facts and questions. He has been in alliances with everyone in the house, not one time has he said let’s pick this person off because they are black, or whatever. This is so dumb and ridiculous that you would agree with what that evil freak and his nasty side kick are twisting up.

Just Sayin'

What about him wanting to call his alliance of all white people the silent majority……?

Deloris Matthews

If you are white you don’t understand kylie’s downlow racism

ssilva872

*If you are an uneducated like minded white person…

Pollen

Exactly. Higher offensive.

Funfame

Wow that’s racist

I'm impressed

They never actually called him a racist. They just picked a pretty convenient time to drop this information to the rest of the house. Did Kyle really say all this? Yes. Does it mean he is a racist? Probably not. My real problem with all this is B & M should have came out with this info like immediately if they were actually morally conflicted by it. Although they did cringe when Kyle first brought this all up, they never once thought about saying anything to anyone else about it until their games because endangered.

Fay

From my recollection, it was Brit who told Michael she was very uncomfortable with what Kyle had said. Then Michael said he was glad someone eles (Brit) had brought that up bc he also didn’t like it.

Basically Michael was willing to quietly swallow that conversation with Kyle in order to focus on his game with the alliance.

It was Brit and Brit alone who spoke up initially and then went to Kyle about it.

This makes Michael look even slimier now with his timing, as he was never particularly offended by Kyle’s comments.

Michael seems more concerned about optics, as he himself brought up.

Last week talking to the camera when he was going on about how much he loves Monte, and that he will only go against him eventually bc of game advancement reasons, it came off to me as wanting to make himself seem like a POC ally.

He’s way too aware of his presentation in the context of race. It’s very self-serving.

KIDROCK

Bingo’s

I Spy

What facts? That the poc were forming an alliance? There was simply no evidence of this.

Surf all day

And you’re part of the problem

Terriberry

I’ve been watching and the other people actually DIDwant a POC alliance! You ca not deny that! Why is it okay for people of color to do it and not be called racist but God forbid it be mentioned by a white person?

I Spy

Other people? What people? Facts please.

Chelsea

Did you see ALL the feeds from beginning?? He was in fact doing what they are saying how is the truth disgusting?? It’s disgusting if you feel bad for him knowing he’s a racist !

Alissa

Yes, I have, so I would like for you to enlighten me on what you feel he has said or done that is racist from the beginning.

Dreamer

Chelsea, just stop it. Kyle is not racist. Period.

Chelsea

Dreamer yes he is

Steve

Chelsea is the Cook Out Racist? They formed an alliance based on race and voted people out because of color.

Tia

Yes!!! Thank you. Finally someone says it. How much more racist could that group be!?

Manders

I wouldn’t call him a straight out racist… but it is VERY short sighted. Honestly, pretty much every big alliance in the history of Big Brother has been all white… So the fact that Kyle was hell-bent on relating the one successful black alliance to the few people of colour in the house makes me uncomfortable. To me, it is him basically saying “holy shit the people of colour are trying to get ahead, we better stop them now!” Is he a racist person? Maybe not. But this was a paranoid move based on racial fears for sure.

BBfan

You worded that perfectly. I agree with you.

I'm impressed

How many seasons of big brother have there actually been, up until recently when CBS pledged to be more diverse in their game show casting (rightfully so) has there every been a season where there were more then two POC people in the cast. I cant think of one. But I only started watching in season 11. Kinda hard to form a POC alliance when there are only two or three max in the house..

Cat

Blame casting for that. Not Kyle. Go back over the years. Please explain how an all POC alliance was ever possible with a majority white cast. Most alliances were white because the majority of cast was. CBS has made this what it is now. Thank god they have widened the cast net and clearly ensure a better balance. As they should have. However, in doing so, it allowed for a PoC alliance. So it’s a real reality now. Just as an all girl alliance is. An all boy alliance. I’m sure if they cast more LGBQT individuals, there would be a reality of an LGBQT alliance. It’s game play. And all should be ready for it. No one expected it last season. Hence the success of it. Now suddenly it’s wrong for someone to be thinking it? What’s wrong is blasting someone as racist over thinking it. Just WRONG.

Jd214

Well said

TakyPandas

The ppl who didn’t see it that way, are overly pessimistic or just as blind as the half of the world that turn a blind eye to racist behavior..

I'm impressed

Stupid yes? Racist? Probably not.

Only Reading Feeds

I don’t think Kyle is racist. But he has played such a sloppy game and has earlier talked to Brittany and Michael about PoC alliance and them and him and Alyssa to stick together. These days you have to watch your words as they can be misconstrued. Kyle has betrayed every single alliance and he will betray Alyssa. I know it’s the game of BB but you still have to manage jury and also what BB fans will think. He’s a sloppy immature dishonest player. Michael and Brittany are saving their game and Taylor if possible the same as what Kyle did. He did say what M&B are telling Turner.

Ctop

Michael and Brittany are saving their game and Taylor if possible the same as what Kyle did. He did say what M&B are telling Turner.” I have not seen anyone betray so quickly and brutally as Kyle betrayed Joe. Now Kyle is brutally betrayed. So it is karma. Lucky Turner gets away with clean hands.

Only Reading Feeds

Absolutely! Karma

BBfan

Well put, I agree with you 100%

Jd214

Why are you mad at Michael and Brit, didn’t Kyle just did the same thing to Joseph and the LO’s?

Palm Oil's Meds

So, it’s okay for Turner and everyone to make up lies about Taylor and anyone that’s not white?

Lorrene

It’s true and they wanted to come clean about it and they told Turner do with it what you want they also said that to Alyssa

Hahahaha

Hahahaha

Kyle…”I’m the biggest savage in the house..watch me dish information out”

Michael…. ” Hold my beer”

Ticofernandez

SMH Michael painting it as Kyle wanting an all white alliance is definitely bending the truth and messed up I hope it doesn’t work and Monte and Terrance still take out Taylor and then his ass next week

10secondwonder

Did you see the discussion? He isn’t bending anything. Man child was raised under a rock. He had no idea his immature ass was coming off completely racist and Michael and Britney had a conversation about it at the time. The truth hurts.

Alissa

BS! Everyone can perceive things the way they want too. In this world, anything a white person says can be twisted by the ridiculous progressive asshole.

Ttb

Well that’s why you don’t make those comments on national television.

Terriberry

100 percent truthful

Ticofernandez

Yes I seen the conversation he was worried about Taylor not wanting to nominate a black woman and questioned if there could be a Cookout 2.0 to try and paint him as racist and wanting a white alliance is b.s. I understand left over fans not liking Kyle for blowing up the alliance but trying to paint him as racist is not fair

Bren

I totally agree and at the beginning of the season while a bunch of people were sitting around chatting he brought up his grandma being a racist ! So he’s been around it all his life .

Robert

Remember what he said earlier in the game. He did mention the CookOut and did say that he thought that CookOut#2 was happening and wanted something to counter it

jrc411

Was having a “cookout” last season racist?? Of course it was. How is having an all bipoc alliance where no whites are being allowed a part of, not racist??

azmdw

Monte might be on the block after Michael uses the veto to take Brittany off the block.

Turner said he was going to put Alyssa up as a pawn, Alyssa told Kyle, now Kyle is going to talk with Turner and tell him he used use Monte as the pawn, he does not feel safe using Alyssa as a Pawn. Monte might flip, Monte, Brittany and Michael vote Alyssa out.

If Turner lets Kyle talk him into using Monte as the Pawn, and then Kyle, Alyssa and Terrance vote Monte out, instead of Taylor, Turner will see Kyle is willing to blindside him, and Kyle is doing whatever he thinks works best for his game, not the group.

I hope Turner is strong enough to stick with using Alyssa as the Pawn, but I’m a little nervous, because Turner originally said he was going to put Alyssa & Terrance up, then Kyle talked him out of that, and convinced Turner to nominate Taylor & Brittany, then they can use the veto and backdoor Michael.

I think Turner is letting Kyle control his HOH, and Kyle is just like Taylor’s HOH, Kyle is all over the place, and he does not want Alyssa used as a pawn, that messes up Kyle’s game.

Kyle is all about Kyle, Turner better wake up and notice Kyle is setting everything up so he is in a better position, and he’s not even the HOH.

Chelsea

It’s the truth you must be a late fan he’s been saying disgusting stuff for a while he’s just finally getting caught in his malicious stuff

Ticofernandez

Please say what disgusting or racist things he said because I surely missed it other then him questioning q Cookout 2.0 based off Taylor comments I’ve not seen anything

MoonCat

Michael and Britt are the only ones being malicious, here. Smh…

MoonCat

Kyle has not said anything malicious. Michael has, however. Michael is making himself the most hated person in America in one felt swoop!

Texastigger

Ok Michael what you have done is flat nasty. You make the comment “I should have spoken up more” So rather than squash it when he said it you just filed it away to be used at a later point. So how can you be sure of the intent given how the past season went.

It is a game an people will see and say things that might not be strictly PC but to make no comment about it at the time and then to simply spew it out as a game move. No respect because if it really bothered you as you claim why did you not say something then. Or when he was on the block with Daniel.

I wanted Michael to win but this move is beyond petty and vindictive now to be honest rooting for turner, because Kyle has also made bad choices but this one tops the cake Michael.

10secondwonder

Truth hurts.

MoonCat

It’s not the truth and you know it, you racist! YOU’RE the one who’s racist, not Kyle.

Texastigger

10-sec, not arguing if Kyle said it, I am saying Michael sitting on it and then coming to Turner and regardless of the word optic he used he is calling Kyle racist based on wanting to form an alliance to combat a perceived cookout 2.0 that would target him.

again Michael knows he is on live feeds and the intention to basically slander a player to get ahead is not ok in my book.

you lie you backstab that is the nature of big brother just as it is in survivor.

he cast the perceived optics regardless that could impact a player outside of the game and that is where I feel he stepped over the line

Big Sister

“Live feeds” is a misnomer this year. They have been down more than usual this season. Kyle was on “live feeds” just like Michael. You should always think before you speak. Kyle didn’t and now he is paying the piper! He cannot deny what he said. It is on tape. Michael did not slander him, he just told them what Kyle said. You reap what you sow!

Tracy

Agreed. I wanted Michael to win too until this. If you have to twist something as nasty as that to make someone else seem racist on National tv, shame on you!! Lost all respect for him and it is so sad because I really wanted him to win.

MoonCat

Michael is clearly evil. What’s being done to Kyle is evil. He’s done nothing wrong!

Fay

Even more so that Michael explicitly started off with the sum conclusion that Kyle was intent on starting an all white alliance.

It may be that the end result of Kyle’s paranoia would have been exactly that, but coming to that point through irrational thoughts which then provide you some opportunity to reflect, is very different from having a primary game strategy of corralling all the Caucasians together.

That is adequate misrepresentation of the conversation with Kyle to be akin to a lie.

Michael has lost his own marbles being suddenly at high risk this week.

He is essentially weaponizing racism and the fear of being canceled. Now trying to convince himself that it was a mistake rather than his game convenience that kept him silent all this time.

I’ve lost all respect for Michael.

Deloris Matthews

Go Michael, Kyle lied on Joseph that’s why Joseph went home, I’m glad Kylie’s lies is catching up with him

Steve

Please tell me what lies Kyle told on Joe. I can tell you a big one Joe made. In order to try to prevent Kyle and Alyssa from pairing he told Kyle that Alyssa had a boyfriend. Joe was a much bigger liar than Kyle.

MoonCat

Joe was a snake!

Ed017

uh, Alyssa literally did have someone “back home”…

Surf all day

Alyssa actually said, she misses her “special person” in front of Joe and Turner. Joe asked her did she have a boyfriend and she asked Joe not to mention it to Kyle. Joe did not lie to Kyle.

Fay

Joe told Dyre Fest how Taylor tried to bring him into a F4 with ?ichael and Brit.

If you have issues with Kyle’s behavior than you should be even more upset with Joseph for potentially ruining Taylor’s game when she was so dependent on him as her savior in the personal aspects of the game.

Taylor’s name came out his mouth when he was in that pool.

Robert

Dawg and Simon, This week feels like Sloppy Joe Lasagna week. Still so many moving pieces even if who gets evicted this week seems obvious at this point (Taylor). Michael Vs Kyle will continue into next week. Turner is playing this the best way he knows how especially since Kyle practically called Michael evil earlier in the HoH room

MoonCat

Michael clearly IS evil. There’s been numerous examples if you listen to everything he’s said over the course of the game. It’s obvious in his eyes, too. Something is not right with Michael. Psychopath, I’m guessing…

BB24123

100% He is a vindictive POS, robot like freak. I had a bad feeling about him from the start.

Paradise island

Well if Kyle isn’t self evicting right now, I really doubt Kyle is going past this week, and if he does he’s definitely going home next week. Thank god

Raiders1185

Just curious so it’s ok with you to have a black alliance but not a white alliance?

Steve

Exactly, cook out formed solely based on race then they evicted solely based on race. No alliance based on race is ok. No “buts”.

Raiders1185

Definitely agree with that Steve!

Paradise island

When the “black alliance” was formed with a specific goal because there hadn’t been a single black winner in normal us seasons for 22 seasons straight? When prior poc houseguests we’re isolated, called aggressive and made out to be crazy by the house and fans alike? When the hypothetical one for this season was only thought up of by someone who consistently makes micro aggressions against his housemates of color and has been trying to push a narrative for weeks to target contestants of color? Yes. Yes I am saying that. It’s interesting that y’all only care about racism when you’re trying to protect a “naive” 29 year old white man from being called out on it

Raiders1185

Ok so you are racist, got it, have good night

Julie Chen

Michael’s biggest lie is saying this isn’t gameplay. Convenient timing.

Manders

Agreed. I don’t respect this because he could have (and should have) called Kyle out when he said it, not wait until his game is in danger and use his words as revenge. He had at least two chances to call Kyle out, as he brought up alliances based on race at least twice. Kyle was paranoid, and ya… assuming the people of colour are in an alliance just because they are people of colour is racist – but if Michael REALLY cared he would have been like, “Dude, it’s really not cool to assume…” and explained why it was wrong. I don’t think Kyle means to be racist, and I’m sure he will learn from this experience.

Ugh!

Michael didn’t do anything about it because he was a part of the LOs when they were still together. They could control Kyle then, but his betrayal of Joseph proved that he would do anything to protect himself and Alyssa.

The Beef

It’s totally gameplay! Very dirty gameplay at that!

Cisomarie

Actions and words have consequences!

MoonCat

Michael better get everything that’s coming to him for this! Trying to win a game is one thing, destroying somebody’s life is another! This is the most vile thing i’ve ever seen someone do to somebody else! Destroying an innocent person’s life goes way beyond what BB is supposed to be. Michael has crossed the line in the most cowardly way possible. It’s Michael’s life that deserves to be destroyed, now! Hell, he doesn’t even deserve a life!!!

Tony L Kolodzik

Michael is the one who should go for starting something like this!

Cisomarie

So did Michael lie? He didn’t call Kyle a racist. Brittany tried to speak with him about the optics of what he was saying. I SAW it on the Live feeds. You can’t Gaslight this one. I don’t think he is racist but his comments are truly a place to start a conversation so he can fully define his views. Michael and Brittany have talked about the concerns they have had over his comments since Kyle made them. This isn’t new . They did not know how to handle the situation. Bottom line. There needs to be a discussion.

Fay

Michael was very dishonest in stating that Kyle pitched him an all white alliance. That makes it sound like Kyle had that particular goal in and of itself, whereas in truth he led himself to that corner with his irrational thoughts about the Cookout.

I’m not excusing Kyle, but in no way was Michael being genuinely forthcoming. He was painting a picture to fit his narrative.

I think Michael’s emotions in feeling betrayed by Kyle with the backdoor plan, are leading him to reframe that Cookout conversation now. He is seeing Kyle as some sort of demon that was lurking all this time.

It’s very disappointing to see a seemingly measured super fan lose his marbles in this way.

If he wins, kudos to his comp successes, then. He’s no Dan or Will.

Haydens dick

Hes gay hes already going to burn what more do you want to happen to him

I Spy

test

Alissa

Kyle is freaking crying because he’s being painted as something he’s not. Every one of you who have ganged up on him in this site are just as bad as the evil, disgusting people doing this to him on the inside of the house. Vile, nasty creatures!

Hahahaha

Kyle’s mom??

IanWasRobbed

Or at least definitely someone from the Mormon Church.

Dixie

And we all know how black people have been perceived by the Mormon church. Even if they now allow black men into the priesthood (allowing them to be in the good part of heaven when they die) many still consider them marked by God as inferior. Kyle was indoctrinated very well .

ssilva872

Preach!

fvrplaid

That comment is just ignorant and uniformed. If the Latter Day Saint church has such a poor opinion of and treats black people so poorly, why is the largest growth of their church in African countries? If you want to know how they feel or how they are treated, why not ask a black member of the church?

ssilva872

Maybe his ‘racist but it’s ok because it was a different time’ grandma learned how to post here smfh…

Chelsea

Honey watch the feeds from the beginning he was indeed saying racist things so stop with the pity party

Alissa

Go ahead and name them!

Alissa

Racist to you is questioning if there is a Cookout 2.0? The Cookout was actually racist, but that’s ok, right?. Never once did he say to form an all white alliance. He has been in alliances with everyone. This whole time it’s been about game. Tell me what you think he has said that was racist…

Lenny

Name one thing he said that was racist. I’ve been watching since the beginning and he had a concern of a cookout that he mentioned maybe 3 or 3 times. He hasn’t said anything racist you just don’t like him and want to pile on this bullshit to make yourself feel better.

This is a game and Michael and Brittney are about to ruin a man’s life to get him out. It’s pretty sickening

Big Brother Fan

Chelsea, I have also asked you several times to state what Kyle has said that is racist but I have yet to see you answer. And yes I have been watching since the beginning.

Jd214

Alyssa mom just called Alyssa to find out if the 12 seconds was at least good

JustMyOpinion

It was 10 seconds, don’t give Kyle credit for 2 seconds more. I’m a stickler for accuracy.

Steve

Tell me what racist things he said. Tell us! You keep saying he said stuff please tell is!

Unfortunate American who has to see Kyle TikTok da

Kyle wanted to form a “silent majority” of white players “because he wrongly assumes the [people of color] are working together. He’s called them loud bullies, and felt ‘jumped’ talking to them. He also said Turner
“in a bucket hat look like a Filipino rice farmer.” Is that enough for you. I have more.

Robert

I have never heard a houseguest literally say “I want to have DR session as soon as possible” lol

Terrence’s big crack

Would Michael have divulged this Kyle information…… EVER? I would think that the POC would be asking that as well….. were you sitting on this for an opportune moment & waiting for who was in power? Hmmm

Robert

Michael and Brittany literally said that if Kyle had been evicted during the twist they weren’t sure if they would have said anything

Victoria

This is nasty game play by Michael and Brittany. I hope they are both voted out before Michael walks away with money by any means necessary. Brittany is useless to everyone but Michael; all Brittany does is gossip and throw people under the bus.

DJ in FLA

I hope they evict Kyle but I can’t say with all honesty that Michael has noble intentions for spilling this like he’s acting.

Cee Dee

He doesn’t. I think Brittany is a little more noble. I think she wanted to say something earlier ABC’s she even had a one on one with Kyle about what he said. Kyle wasn’t even smart enough not to bring it up again. He hinted about it too Turner and turner was POUND strong. He v said he didn’t see any of them turning, that included Monte and Joseph. So he left it alone. Then Klye talks straight into the camera after those conversations with Brittany and turner and says a bunch of stuff but the main thing was him asking America to not hate him or cancel him, that he didn’t know what he was doing but he did. And still stayed on that path. If you don’t know what you’re doing you won’t feel like you need to apologize to America. The funny thing is, Kyle was in a good spot until he had sex with Allysa and refused to let her go up. Him nor turner wasn’t on anyone’s radar. He did stuff he didn’t have to do. Within the leftovers, Monte, Joseph and Taylor were they targets and Monte and Joseph was target michael and Brittany. No one , was targeting them to. He made Taylor’s hou about him. Being targeted and it wasn’t..

Fay

Actually, he doesn’t fully know what he is doing as it happens, even as he apologizes and goes back to do it again.

He has some serious impulse control problems with a racing mind that drives him to make poor judgments and choices.

I feel he has a disability, and it breaks my heart to see him ramrodded like this.

Cisomarie

I can see that being his issue

Robert

Dawg, do the feeds right now with the different conversations make you want to say “Meanwhile on the other side of town…”?

oh dude

Well if Kyle wants an all white alliance, then why does he want you out, Michael?

Cisomarie

He is jealous of Michael. It kills him that Michael is smarter and plays better

4 be 4

That is very true on so many levels, but
“oh dude” is correct, Michael is whiter than a box of saltine crackers!!

The Beef

Sorry, that’s not the way a racist thinks. If he’s truly a racist, he would have been for getting Monte and Taylor on the block and leaving them there. That way it would be certain that a POC was going home.

Oh, and he would have nixed adding Monte to the Afterparty alliance as well. They didn’t really need him since they had the numbers this week.

I Spy

He’s working within the confines of the game. He wouldn’t consciously do something to ruin his chance for $750k.

Victoria

At this point, Michael and Brittany are making me sick. If what they are saying is true, why not speak up at the time??? In kyle’s defense, Taylor made it a race issue by not putting a person of color on the block, so maybe Kyle responded.

marcellas veto

Yes, she didn’t put one but 2 two people of color on the block. Save your words please.

Ugh!

IF he is a racist because of religious beliefs, maybe he is also a homophobe? I’m not accusing him of this by any means. I’m just saying that a lot of religions are like that.

Only Reading Feeds

They should have a house meeting.

Vincent

Finally. Call it what you want. Kyle felt threatened by the people of color. His defense was purposing a white alliance. This is no different than a white woman clutching her purse more tightly when seeing a person of color. Your subconscious can have racial bias even if externally you genuinely befriend everyone.

Fay

I agree, but don’t think it’s at the level of destroying Kyle’s life.

Michael trying to promise Turner safety for putting up Kyle now, in the name of presumably canceling Kyle and saving Turner’s own reputation , is downright vile weaponizing of important social issues, all for his own personal game gains.

Tom the Canuck

There already was a storm brewing for Kyle on the outside. Michael just wanted to alert everyone in the house before they have to face tough questions once they go home.

MoonCat

And how does Michael know there’s a storm brewing outside? Houseguests aren’t supposed to know what’s going on in the outside world…

BIg Fan

because they are not stupid and know how what Kyle said could be perceived on the live feeds

BIg Fan

because they are not stupid and know how what Kyle said could be perceived on the live feeds

Kailei

I am sure the DR dropped hints in their questions…
Production loves to spin the narrative.

4 be 4

So??? no one has answered why it is different than cookout.

Ticofernandez

The Cookout wasn’t racist it wasn’t a random group of black people being like no whites allowed. A black person had never won and they all agreed let’s change that and not take each other out when they finally had a majority after 22 seasons of being only 1 or 2 black people that were targeted early.

4 be 4

It was or wasn’t as random as the other houseguests. In fact yes they did say or established their final 7 to exclude all Whites. I agree as to why and how they did it, but it is racism if you discriminate once or 22 times. Its still racism. If your stated “mission statement” is NO ( fill in the blank) people allowed sounds like racism.

Terry

But after seeing it happen it is not racist to get paranoid and think it’s happening again and refusing to roll over and let it happen if it is. Then realizing it’s not happening and never bringing it up again if he was racist he wouldn’t have aligned with any poc the whole game. Michael is twisting what happened to his own benefit if it was such a big deal he would of said something two weeks ago when the conversation happened

Keeping It Real

TiVo – you’re mistaken. Each member of the cookout purposely got close to a non- black person, gained their trust (making final 2 deals, etc) and then proceeded to betray them one at a time. Yes – the DID have a “black only” as all others were not allowed in. Watch The Challenge. Alyssa and Derek both said that while they understood their mission, they resented being toyed with and betrayed in the name of race. They just weren’t able to voice that at the time. I wouldn’t blame anyone for being paranoid after last years season. The cookout lied, pretended, faked, etc to all other housemates in the name of race. Why is it far fetched to think this wasn’t happening again?

Fay

Actually, that concept has been explained ad nauseam if people were willing to listen.

Because. There is no such thing as reverse racism.

Racism is predicated on power and privilege, which is something that members of the Cookout lack.

The Cookout trying to slightly level one tiny patch of the playing field by banding together, is nowhere akin to a bunch of White people feeling threatened enough by the ‘other’ group, to once again using their dominance to pick off the Black members.

4 be 4

disagree completely. But I disagree with my kids and still like them. so thanks for the reply. Disagreements are ok.

The Corey's

Let me help you out with the definition of racism.

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Now tell me how that wasn’t the cookout?

Manders

I will take this one on, but it’s just my opinion.
People of colour have historically done very poorly in Big Brother, being disadvantaged in many ways. Most of the “strong” alliances in Big Brother were made up of white males, and if there was a person of colour involved they were guaranteed (most of the time) to be at the very bottom of the barrel. So, I guess to me (like I said, this is my opinion) The Cookout had to have each other’s backs in order to succeed, the same way the white alliances had each other’s backs season after season. If The Cookout hadn’t have formed, they would have been picked off one by one… binding together was literally the only way to get on even ground to fight. It’s weird thinking about it, because white people have banded together for 22 seasons before the Cookout, but nobody (including myself) was up in arms about the alliances having the same skin colour, but then a few black people band together and we all take notice. Really, what the Cookout did, was no different than all of the other all white alliances in the history of BB.
You may disagree, and that is ok, I just wanted to share my view with you.

Steve

The black on big brother were stunt cast in the past for ratings. They brought in black people who had no chance to win even with an all black cast. DeVonne and Bailey are two examples. They were cast just to cause drama. Bring in more Montes and a black personality would have won. They won Survivor before. The issue was with casting not racist white people.

Cisomarie

Thank you!

I Spy

So “meow meow” or any number of all white alliances were racist?

Starlet

What Michael has said about Kyle is very true! Kyle made several comments that were very uncalled for or uncomfortable. But I wish Michael spoke up when it happened instead of using it for game play! Kyle is a 30 yr old man that acts like he is 2. This season has been a shit show.

Victoria

If this is true, why have I not read posts about Kyle being a racist before? Also, no one should pay MB on the back for waiting to say this now since it is merely game play!

Big Sister

Actually, there are multiple websites referring to hom as KKKyle.

Observer

Maybe you weren’t paying attention? KKKyle was trending on Twitter weeks ago when he started pushing the idea of an all white alliance

Starlet

I truly do not think Kyle is a racist! But he did say a lot of things that were uncomfortable and a couple of times talking by himself to the camera. Do I think he should be cancelled NO but he really needs to acknowledge some of the things he said or how he said it was wrong. I don’t agree at all using this for game pay it’s sad!!!

CujoWasHere

There have been numerous posts regarding this.

Sylvee

Google “stop protecting kyle” and you will see

Tom the Canuck

They did talk to Kyle at the time. Plus they didn’t know if the feeds had been cut at the time. Producers must have warned them.

William

Sounds like monte is eating this up and turner is taking this racism thing hook line and sinker. Sad. Michael is a turd.

Robert

Monte is putting everything that Kyle has done and pushed for together and it doesn’t paint a good picture. As far as Turner goes, there are 2 angles: his gameplay and his wife (if I heard him correctly)

L C

I disagree. Michael is the most intelligent, strategic, and comp winning player that BB has seen in a long time.

4 be 4

They should do a 3 hour special of BB just with this afternoons live feeds. Its the best “real” reality on BB in years!!

CashMoney1107

Yep, 2 hours with limited commercials and DR sessions, then an hour of race relations and not jumping the gun when it comes TO WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR

4 be 4

I would watch with 2 bags of popcorn!!

Texastigger

And a few brews lol

IanWasRobbed

Live by the sword, die by the sword. Kyle started the underhanded play and Michael and Britt are matching it with truth.

Fay

Goodness, no. Betraying your alliance in a game for monetary prize, is nowhere akin to destroying a young man’s life and invoking his real life panic.

I’m not saying Kyle’s words were not harmful, but he does not deserve this type of assassination that will follow him outside of the house. Michael just exponentially magnified Kyle’s screw up far and beyond the appropriate level of call out he’d been getting on social media thus far.

Seems he’s decided Kyle is evil for making a covert game move against him. So, all bets are off.

That’s what malignantly toxic people do. Once they decide you are bad bc you’ve presumably hurt them, they feel they have the right to go full visceral.

Itiswhatitis

Kyle destroyed his own life! This is only new to some people in the house. America ALREADY knows and has been calling him KKKyle for weeks now. It’s fair game in the Big Brother house.

Rookles

May be worth reminding everyone… Twitter is not America.

Just because something is trending on BB Twitter doesn’t mean all that much. Twitter shows more racism, hate, narcissism, etc., etc. than any houseguest shows in the live feeds.

Itiswhatitis

He’s been trending on more than Twitter.

Fay

It was a much more contained strike for Kyle’s real life until Michael turned it into a big game move.

Tom the Canuck

Kyles life was already destroyed on the outside. The cat was out of the bag for weeks. Brit and Michael are now the very convenient scapegoats for the right wingers.

Fay

His life was not quite destroyed. Michael has now actively moved to have him canceled, by manipulating Turner to put him on the block as the ‘bad’ houseguest.

It’s a huge exponential draw of attention and deepening of the narrative. All people need to hear is “Kyle pitched an all white alliance”. A catchphrase.

It is pretty much a focused destruction of someone’s very existence.

L C

I will be thrilled if Kyle is evicted. I liked him initially and thought he was a good guy but the racist all white alliance idea and the betrayal of the LO showed him to have the kind of BB game play that turns ugly. No one wants to see the traitor come out. It’s what makes people stop watching for one or many seasons.

L C

Agree completely.

MoonCat

OMG, you’re right! Michael has painted Kyle black because he’s a likely psychopath! I didn’t think about that angle of Michael’s behavior. He should be kicked out of the game for assainating someone’s character over a game move.

Kyle is there to win a game, not help someone else win, ffs! Michael is the biggest comp beast and it’s perfectly logical for people to target him. But petty boy Michael, who always says he can separate personal and game, clearly CANNOT separate them!

L C

Michael has used his intelligence and athleticism to get where he is in a tough game. Remember when the “all boy’s alliance” left him out without so much as a second thought to how he must have felt?

S******

How is someone telling others what he in fact said assassinating his character? You said yourself his words were harmful. If the houseguest choose to be insulted by his words that’s their right just like people on the outside.

Itiswhatitis

Their motto is “do unto others then split!”

Fay

Bc Michael painted a particular picture that was not completely accurate.

Kinda the way you are picking and choosing my words.
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Yes, I said the words were harmful, in context of some points and a main position about this.

L C

Kyle did this to himself when he betrayed the LO. And his stupid idea of an all white alliance sealed his fate. As soon as he sat with Terrance and threw the LO under the bus, the slime of betrayal was all over him. The rest was just in line with what he’s all about.

Cee Dee

Yes, Kyle can’t be mad. He said this stuff word for word and Michael and Britney didn’t call him racist.. they never used that word at all. Kyle has met his match with this type of game play. I think Kyle was the first one to say that and allsya told him that they never said that. Then turner was the second person to use the racist word. Kyle made an alliance with Joseph and turner and spent the entire game to hey people to target them even michael was winning ALL the comps. For some reason everyone was scared of monte who only talked to a few of the houseguest and only one 1 comp. Joseph won 0 but was a social threat by neither of them ever even mention the idea of turning on Kyle until he wouldn’t let Allysa go up. They were both loyal and more importantly BEATABLE! instead of trying to make an alliance against them and Terrance and jasmine and indy he should had tried to make an alliance with them to get out michael. You’re gonna need all the help you can get to get him out. He will probably win HOH next week. Turner is in a bad spot siding with this guy. Didn’t the wall yeller yell him???

Team Taylor

And here we go…

I sense a mandatory house meeting is incoming.

For the record, I don’t believe Kyle is a racist. This is just one of those situations where it’s better to not say anything out loud in the first place unless you have solid receipts to back it up.

acidfairy

kyle is gonna be crushed when he finds out what everyone outside the house thinks of him

Texastigger

Who is everyone? For me he made a poor choice of words based on his perception.

what Michael did was simply wrong you do not say the things he has said when you know you are on live camera. Also he should have spoken up when Kyle first brought it up, not wait until he was threatened by the game play.

Michael has chosen to ruin a persons life in pursuit of 750 thousand and to me is more wrong. I agree people need to be held accountable for their actions but to me Michael is in the wrong here.

Itiswhatitis

You’re blaming Michael for ruining Kyle’s life? Who said those things at least 5 times in the house to certain people and to the cameras, Kyle or Michael? BB fans have known for weeks before Micheal said anything. Michael didn’t even call him a racist he just repeated what Kyle said. Someone here said Twitter isn’t ALL of America, well then only social media and BB fans know like they already have known. Kyle is making his own self look like he said something wrong by hiding in the D.R. ALL DAY. Bet no one else would get that luxury. They should of given an hour and told his ass to self evict or go back in, period! Kyle made his own bed now it’s time to lay in it, right after he finishes his steak and lobster with production!

Avid watcher

Exactly! The houseguest don’t know but the outside world has already made their judgment against him. Michael and Brittany just informed the rest of the house. Kyle will be able to defend his own words here pretty soon.

Cold move by Michael though.