Meg “We can’t not send Shelli home when she’s up there!” Jackie “Becky is going to freak out!”

POV Holder: Steve POV Competition Aug 8th
POV Used Yes POV Ceremony Aug 10th
HOH Becky Next HOH Aug 13th
Original Nominations: Shelli and Steve
After POV Nominations: Shelli and Vanessa
Have Nots Meg, James and Jackie

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12:45am Austin and Liz are laying on the beds chatting.
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1:38am HOH room – Steve and Becky are talking. Becky tells him that he is more than fine to talk to her (Vanessa) all week. Steve says after the veto meeting I was in the hammock room and guess who came knocking and was really, really nice to me? Becky guesses Austin. Steve says yup. Becky says Austin and the twins I think will vote to keep her, so we’ll come close. Three votes that way and I have my three votes. So it will be another big week for you. They badly need your vote and Johnny Mac’s vote to get her to stay. Steve says right because the know you’re going to vote the tie against her. She is extremely good at moving votes and influencing HOH’s. Steve says she is a very good speaker. Becky says is very good at making it personal. Very good at making you feel she is being honest when she’s not. Vanessa has been telling me exactly what I want to hear. The twins like Shelli more but will listen to what Austin wants. Austin wants Vanessa more. Vanessa is playing all sides! She is playing everyone. She made a lot of I’ll keep you safe till jury. In reality she has no ones back only her own. Becky tells Steve to win HOH! Becky heads down stairs.
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Becky talks to Shelli and says we only need 4 votes to keep you. I’ve made it clear who my target is. I know Austin will keep Vanessa but the twins have more of a connection with you. Johnny has been like get her out. They will get down and dirty if they think there is hope to change it. The people that have realized how she is playing want her out bad!!! I will says its really hard because it truly is a game move. I don’t want to feel like she is being bullied. Its not personal at all. I don’t even know if Vanessa would talk to me after all of this. I know she takes the game more personally. She won’t forgive or forget. I want the house to be kind and nice to her. I really have no intention of telling her the whys because I don’t think she will get if even if I explained it a million times. She even has a second chance to come back in the game.

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1:38am Meg says Shelli is 100% going after us. Jackie says and will lie to us and do it. James says exactly! Jackie says she will be ruthless about it. She’s snappy. James says Vanessa’s not competitive she doesn’t win the competitive ones. Shelli can win both of them. James asks how many votes do we need? Jackie says 5 and Austin and the twins will 100% do it. James says we would have to tell Becky. Meg says its not fair to Becky. James says but she took 5k! Meg says if you think about it Vanessa would only be going after Becky, not one of us. James says Shelli is going after all four of us. Meg says we have a better shot protecting one of us than all of us. James says Shelli thinks she is golden right now! James says and next week we would have to get more blood on our hands putting Liz up to make sure Shelli goes. Its going to piss them off. Jackie says its going to be easier to get Vanessa out than Shelli for double eviction. Meg says I think this is our chance and that we will really be regretting it later. Jackie says there is nothing we can say, Shelli is going after us. James says right now we control the votes. Jackie says Liz and Austin will do it in two seconds. Meg asks you think they’ll keep Vanessa? Jackie says yes. Meg says she keeps going over scenarios there is no way Shelli isn’t going to win HOH or Veto during double eviction. We’ve put her up twice now and if we put her up again. James says he thinks Shelli has more loyalty in the house than Vanessa. Meg says we’re Shelli’s target which is why we would have to win to put her up.
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2am – 2:10am James says I don’t want to go against Becky but the whole house went against me last week. I gave up 5K. Meg says Becky has to realize that her game is looking really pretty right now. The only blood on her hands would be Vanessa and if she has 5 other people fighting for her 5 plus Johnny Mac to get Vanessa out of the house … double eviction is looking really good. James says Steve said he wants Vanessa out. Meg says that Becky is assuming too much about what people are saying about it all. I think a lot of people are neutral about the situation. They don’t really care that much that she is going. Jackie says Austin will keep Vanessa over Shelli. Steve likes Vanessa. Meg says we would just need one of Austin and them to do it. James says I think we should tell Austin if you do this we will get a target out for you next week. Jackie asks if Vanessa will go after us. I think she would put up me and Becky if she won. Meg disagrees. James says if we send Shelli home we could send Vanessa out right after. I am telling you Shelli has almost won every comp. Meg says I have a horrible feeling about it all, she is sitting right there .. why are we not!? James says if Shelli stays and wins one of us is going. James says maybe we have to tell Vanessa if we keep you safe you can’t come after us next week. Meg says you have to make it seem like this is a hard thing for us because we also want to support Becky. You don’t want to go into it having her think we’re that good with Becky. You have to leave a bit of a question mark. James says Shelli is sitting way to pretty. If she wins one of us is f**ked. Shelli is a huge threat. That’s why I wanted her out that week. James says nothing can happen for awhile. Meg says we can talk to Steve last minute. Meg comments that Austin and the twins might already vote to keep Vanessa so it would be easy to switch over. James says I think its the right thing to do. Vanessa is only after Becky. Shelli is against all four of us. Meg says next week there are more people playing to get out Vanessa then Shelli. They talk about how the second HOH in the double will be a physical and Becky can play in it. Meg says there is more of a chance getting Vanessa out during the double than Shelli. Jackie says I just don’t want to go against Becky. James says I think she will understand in the long run. Its not like we’re turning our back on her. Jackie says that Vanessa now knows if she f**ks with one of us she f**ks with all of us. James says it all sounds good its just whether or not we’re ready to pull the trigger. Meg says that Becky is thinking personal but needs to think what is good for the whole group. Jackie says we will take tomorrow to hang out and figure it out Wednesday. James says Shelli is sitting pretty like everything is fine. Jackie says Vanessa is desperate now.

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2:30am Havenot room – Jackie and Meg talk. Jackie says we’re such schemers. Meg says you have to be! You have to think smart. Meg says we just can’t not send her (Shelli) home when she’s up there. Jackie says yeah like we’re not going to not send her home again.. like what the f**K! I just feel so bad. Meg says yeah. We need to talk to Vanessa .. or do we talk to Becky first. Jackie says if Vanessa won who would she put up .. I think Becky and me. Meg says you and Becky up is better than you and James. Becky could come back into the game but I feel like James has a very different quality than James has. Jackie says James will win HOH again 100%! Meg says I know its awful to think about but. Jackie says do you think more people would vote to keep me? Meg says they would vote to keep you. Jackie says but Becky kept them safe this week. Meg says but Vanessa is gunning for Becky they won’t vote you out. Jackie says Vanessa is willing to make deals. Shelli probably promised Clay she would get James out. Jackie says we’re going to look crazy now. How are Austin and the twins going to trust us now. Meg says its easier when someone is mad at only 1 person. Meg says that Becky broke the promise.

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3:20am – 3:45am Jackie says Becky is going to freak out. We have to think about the best way to say it. Meg says we just have to be honest. This makes more sense. Its easier if we all fight to get Vanessa out right after. Jackie says if we don’t get rid of Shelli now ..she is not going home during the double eviction, I know it. We need to study our a$$es off. If we wait till the last minute Vanessa wont be studying and will get really flustered. She has really bad ADHD. She will either do really good or sh*t the bed. Shelli is way more consistent. Meg says the only thing that will be hard with this is that Becky sees no threat in Shelli. Jackie says exactly. Meg says but if we do this then we just have to make it up to her. Worst case scenario if she gets really pissed and doesn’t trust us who is she going to go to? Jackie says exactly its not like we’re ditching her. If she gets really mad then we’ll stick to it I guess. Meg says I have gut feeling Steve will win double eviction and he won’t put Shelli. He will go after Austin which I am fine with. Its all about breaking apart all these other people. Jackie and Meg talk about past events with Jeff, DaVonne and Jason. Meg says I feel like we haven’t done anything dirty. Jackie says we’ll talk to Becky and if she gets mad we won’t do it. We’ll just talk to her and say we have a gut feeling. Meg says we have more of a shot to protect Becky. And she can’t play next week. I would honestly take the risk of her being mad at us. Jackie laughs how many people can we blindside this week. Meg says we might actually be in control this week, that never happens. Meg says we didn’t really even give her our word. The plan was to get out Shelli this week.

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3:45am Becky and James are in the kitchen reminiscing about past house guests / past events. Becky and James head to bed.

10:15am – 11am Big Brother wakes up the house guests. James and Jackie talk about how they have two more nights left of being havenots. In the bathroom – Steve comments to Meg – Big Brother problem number 500 … I want to go outside but Big Brother will make me put down the awnings.

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212 thoughts on “Meg “We can’t not send Shelli home when she’s up there!” Jackie “Becky is going to freak out!”

  1. I hate Meg.

    Six sense did a good job eliminating Jason and Day because these underdogs JJM (which I am rooting for) is dumb as rocks. What they don’t realize is that geek and freaks will never be loyal to them as same as shelli is, the sad part is they will not only lose JMac, they will also lose Becky. Having said so, Jmac is also partly to blame if he or Becky is sent out the door next, he could’ve solidify something with the goblins but opted to play safe, at least talk game with the goblins rockstar dentist!

        1. Although, I wish Shelli could stay – I am loving this turn of events. Becky winning HOH revealed a gross side of her I didn’t think existed. She deserves a good kick in the rear from Vanessa and unknowingly, the rest of the house.

      1. Here’s the thing about Meg. We have seen useless people in past seasons… that’s something most people can agree on. The problem with Meg is that she is so useless, and so illogical in her thinking that she is actually a very dangerous HINDERANCE to her whole alliance. Every. Single. Time. The underdogs finally are close to connecting the dots in any situation, she says something so completely wrong that it actually places them further away from having a clue about the people and the game. I truly don’t get how someone can be this clueless. I’m not one to insult people, but Meg is a fucking moron. It is not an insult anymore…it’s just fact..Meg has to just go…she is a drain on this whole game. And both sides would be much more intuitive and strategic without her stupid commentary. If she is this bad at reading people in a 24/7 setting like this, I can’t imagine how she makes it through life on a daily basis. She creates these little characters in her head, and even though she has all the evidence in the world to prove her analysis otherwise, she just ignores whatever doesn’t fit into what she already believes. I don’t care how much you hate Austin, van, shell I, Becky, James, Steve, and so forth….Meg is the true stain on that house.

        OK…….rant over.

        1. Meg is kind of an idiot savant. the only problem with vanessa in the house is how annoying she is. shelli is the one who comes closer to winning things, & doesn’t seem easily manipulated into doing other people’s ideas. vanessa spends hours and hours agonizing over every decision & attempting to get others to come up with names or ideas or ‘reasons’ for her actions. I think knowing that, and the fact that she really might be interested in only one target, it would be far better for goblins to keep vanessa and vote out shelli.

          also, they make james happy, and themselves, since they all wanted shelli out first.

          Of course, i think we all know that Meg’s reasons while based in fact, are also based on her personal feelings. She is still under the delusion that she and Clay had a special romantic connection.

      1. What else would you expect from one of Frankie’s friends. She obviously couldn’t see what a horrible person he is.

    1. LMAO!

      They are already turning on Becky. Yes, they are going to talk to her and ask permission. But it already shows that she as the bottom.

      1. i don’t think it was just Meg. Becky had many bitch sessions about Vanessa last night and the last one I caught on the feeds I got the distinct impression that Jackie was beginning to figure out that Vanessa didn’t really want to be HOH again (one of the this Jackie thought she screwed her out of) and that one of Becky’s painpoints (being thrown up with Clay) was not meant to go wrong.

        Becky also told 10 thousand travel stories about herself and Jackie had the “I’m bored” face but everyone kept the convo going to not be rude. I think Becky turned people off last night because they don’t actually really click.

        Vanessa’s wheels were turning hard when Shelli openly complained about the shirts to her and Julia. I am not sure Liz was trying to help Vanessa though, because I feel like Liz is sick of Vanessa, just doesn’t want Shelli to be suddenly frictionless with the JJM crew.

    2. I love all the changing tides this season. I’m not sure who they are going to end up voting out but either way it is a victory for the James/Jackie/Meg side of the house.

      1. What boggles the mind is Meg’s logic. She wants to flip the vote because she thinks Shelli is closer to the twins yet she is confident in Austin and them going along with the plan. Why would they go along with the plan if they were closer to Shelli. Meg is so stupid that she is going to unknowingly create a 5 person( Steve Van Austin Twins) that will take them all out. This could be the biggest mistake and turning point of the season.

  2. I don’t know who I want gone more. Vanessa or her beanie?
    (it’s so nasty it has become some sort of life form).

    1. I bet you anything……Vanessa had a side bet with all her poker buddies, IF she can manage to get an ugly, nasty GREEN BEANIE in a shot every single day, she wins a million dollars.

      How else you explain it?

    2. I hope someone destroys that nasty beanie, just like Victoria shredded Zach’s pink hat last year. Can’t stand it anymore!!

    1. What a bunch of disloyal scumbags! They are lucky that Becky didn’t nominate one of them to go on the block. If they screw over Becky and vote to keep Vanessa, JJM will regret it. How selfish can they be?! Becky would not have been talking smack about Vanessa for the last few days if she knew there was any chance that Vanessa would stay. JJM better understand that Becky will not forgive them. If they flip, they can say goodbye to their tight four-person alliance (and loose six-person alliance).

      1. The problem is James already knows Becky threw him utb and wanted to backdoor him. He’s not going to have any loyalty to her now.

        1. But now is not the time to take action. They need the numbers. They were being picked off one by one until James won HOH. James can’t win back-to-back HOH comps. What Becky did was despicable, but she wins comps and Jackie and Meg do not. After they dismantle what is left of the six sense alliance, he can focus on trying to get Becky out.

        2. But that was in the past, this week she is HOH and she didn’t put James up or backdoor him so that means things have changed. It was funny to me Vanessa mentioning this to the goblins, like James is supposed to be pissed, well this week Becky won and she could have taken James out but she didn’t. Outing Becky would have worked when she wasn’t hoh, but her winning and picking the goblins kinda destroys what Vanessa was sayingn about her targetting James.

          1. The problem with your theory is that he was pissed. Regardless of whether he was her target this week or not, he’s not going to trust her now. I watched him on the feeds, he laid there and thought about it for the longest time. You could tell he was tripping on it. Then to top it off he’s not liking shelli even more now because she took that sweatshirt. He was pretty annoyed by that. He’s wanted shelli out for the longest, they are just giving him reasons to pull the trigger.

          2. They’ve been playing for seven weeks now, not one. For almost all of that time no one had any idea where Becky stood. It’s not too difficult for James to wonder if, after taking a swing at one side of the house, she will soon take a swing at the other. She just waited to long to show anything like loyalty to anyone and the mere mentioning of James name as a target (which was ONLY two weeks ago) is reasonably sufficient for James to trust her less.

        3. Oh yeah, forgot about that part about Vanessa telling James that Becky wanted to target him – interesting point!

          Interesting points by Queen Bee and then Anonymous again too – it seems like it might be a factor, even if maybe it shouldn’t be?

          Also interesting to hear about how Becky’s not connecting well with them on a personal level (from a post above).

      2. disloyal, Becky went running to fink out ADC til then end of last week…they are still loyal but want to do what is best for the team, as opposed to just Becky

    2. STICK TO THE PLAN…Shelli may never win another HOH.
      Remember the year Rachal won it? She was “the plan” several times.

    3. Omg please don’t mess things up Meg. Honestly if don’t get Van out now….they r all gone after her and they deserve it because this is the best time to get her out and the we’ll see what happens double eviction. I hope Van is leaves on Thursday if not I’m done watching this crap. luv all fans

    4. I don’t know why anyone wants the Goblins to win. They’re idiots. Meg “we haven’t been dirty”. Jackie”how many people are we going to blindside this week?”

      By their own logic, Austin controls the twins, Austin will do what Vanessa wants. So they want to vote out Shelli? WTF? They are scared of Shelli who has a loose association with the twins but not Vanessa who pulls together a group of 4 to their 3 if she stays? Idiots.

    5. Shelli thinks she’s sitting pretty and is practicing for the DE thinking she can take out James. Meanwhile Sithe Lord Crazy Train is just losing it and not even thinking about DE. So take out Shelli 1st evict and Crazy Train has a greatly reduced chance of winning the next HOH. That increases the chance of JJM winning or Johnny Mac and any of the 4 will put up Crazy Train and Liz so out the door goes both Shelli and Sithe Lord Crazy Train–2 blindsides in one night and the house is now 3-3-3.

  3. OK… If they do evict Shelli after all that happened today, we’ll be able to say:
    Shelli got evicted because she took Clay’s shirt back from James!

  4. OMG the JJM/ADC are sooo stupid
    like the entire house is going after you. changing your mind now turns Becky against you and the whole house now thinks you guys are even more sketch.

    1. Becky was already after James, and he knows for sure it was her now. Van, Clay, and Shelli all told him last week (after James ask them all) that yes, someone close to him threw him under the bus, and yes, he was that persons backdoor target. Van spilled the beans on Becky yesterday, now he knows it was Becky that did all that. I’m sure that will play a big part in his decision to go against Becky.

  5. JMM are a hot mess.How can anyone be rooting for any of them? No long term strategy. And they still don’t know who is close to whom. They actually think the twins are closer to Shellie than Vanessa. Yeah. Good luck!

    1. OMG!!! You are so right!!! JJM has to be the dumbest group ever and I hope they never live this down. They aren’t seeing what’s in front of them even if it bit them in the f’in face. I luv how James & Jacki can be on point and you have Meg way out in left field redirecting them…AND THEY LISTEN TO HER!!! Un-f’in-believable!!! Not a fan of Vanessa, but if Van can pull this off…heck…I’ll root for Vanessa…then tell James, Jackie & Meg how stupid they are until they block me…HaHa! Idiots!!!

  6. This is the first time Meg and Jackie have come anywhere close to playing this game. They’ll probably tuck their tails between their legs when big boss becky lays down the law, though. She’s a retail manager, you know. She has the key to the cash register.

    1. Regardless if you like her or not – Van is the one to keep – They are finally getting this game. It’s not personal. You don’t have to LIKE the person you are keeping. Shelli is the stronger physical player and socially better adjusted in the house but most of all no matter what she says, she is coming hard for all of them except Becky – I’m astonished the goblins actually could figure that out! Van is vulnerable and is starting to figure out Austin is a total waste of time so she is prime to flip and actually protect them. She has shown she is loyal to the people she “thinks” are loyal to her. Even to the detriment of her own game. If they are smart ….. They will keep Van

  7. Having Vanessa stay would be better for their games… now James has to convince Austwins to do it. Can he do? Or has the Freaks and Geeks bridge officially burned down..?

    1. They think it’s better for their games, but it’s not.

      With Vanessa still in the house, you have a solid five-person alliance (Vanessa, Steve, Austin, Julia, Liz), then you have the After Dark Dunces (James, Meg, Jackie), and two people who are going to be pissed at Tweedle Dumb, Tweedle Dumber and Tweedle Dumbest for flipping the script.

      That’s not good gameplay.

      Vote out Vanessa, and Steve is a free agent. Becky is still working with James’ Angels. Johnny Mac is swinging your way. Shelli hates them, and the twins would put them up, and Austin (who knows).

      Much better to take out Vanessa, but they don’t see that Vanessa is the glue that binds the Austwins to Steve.

    2. It is like the Lesser of Two Evils. Both Shelli & Van have potential to win. Are influential. Control the AusTwits. Both will lie and lead people on. BUT, I somehow think Van would keep the Idiots safe for at least one week. Whereas, Shelli can’t even bring herself to talk to James, let alone let him keep her son’s hoodie. Shelli showed them that she is still hateful. Holding a grudge. And mad at ‘them’. Shelli is the stronger player physically, while Van is mentally. CRAY!!!! This is a toss up. Also, Van would target Becky and JMac first, because she doesn’t like them, especially this week. While Shelli has nothing against BEcky or Jmac. I have to say the Idiots may be right. And how they came to this idea after lounging around in the dentist chairs for days, is beyond me.

      1. I am with ya. First time MJJ have even begun to truly strategize or talk game play whatsoever. With that being said,it truly is a double edged sword. Yes,it will piss off Becky, potentially lose her in their alliance after all the drama that went down with putting up Van. Plus Becky will NOT want to be in the house with Van, & feel uncomfortable as hell & worry about Van coming after Becky. Honestly feel Van will still come back regardless due to all the drama & crazy she brings to the game. For JJM, Becky would def be the main target for Van,but James,Jackie or JMAC could win & protect Becky during the first DE.
        More than anything,I can’t stand Van & have wanted her gone badly-still do! The valid point that JJM have is Shelli is a comp beast but Van is definitely good with mental comps so it’s something you could look at objectively from both sides. Also both Shelli or Van have the loyalty of Austin & twins. Shelli has the relationship with Austin & twins & JMAC & would truly be harder to get rid as the game progresses over Van at this point.
        Steve is a wild card. He has been Vans loyal minion, & she has him wrapped around her finger,& believe he could finally play his own game & breathe if she left,but if she stays, Steve is not strong enough to go against her. Steve will cave I feel.
        JMAC is more loyal to Shelli,& not sure who he would align with more: Becky or Shelli, maybe he feels he could pull them in to work together. JMAC has told Shelli he didn’t fully trust Becky but was that to throw Shelli off or how he legit feels? If Shelli were gone,JMAC would gravitate toward Becky & Steve I honestly feel he would-despises Van & would not work with Van & crew.
        Now DE will go quick, so the comps should not be long/lengthy or very physical, so Van may have a better shot at winning those over Shelli potentially, which is scary & somewhat dangerous.
        Bottom line is that JJM needs to keep Becky/potential numbers on their side. Becky will def take this personally if they decide to flip. Becky can’t play in the first HOH but having her there as a true competitor for the second one is crucial. Seriously don’t mess it up now during a week where DE lies right around the corner.

  8. Wow, how things shift quickly.

    This might all be late night rambling by the Goblins, they may come to their senses tomorrow, but I hope not. I’d love to see them make such a foolish move.

    1. Would love to see this happen. Shelli is so smug. The PERFECT alliance would be Van, James, Jackie. They would be called the VAJAYJAYS! Epic.

      1. While everyone is high on their own supply, let’s consider this idea: VOTE OUT Becky, Meg and Liz for their strategy of shooting their mouths off, selling out plans from side to side like scurrying rats, disrupting plans with hinky votes, lack of loyalty and lazy self interest. Not too mention the most annoying voices. I knoooooowwwwah!

        That would pave the way for a fabulous F*CK FEST BATTLE ROYAL VaJaJays vs. Austin Steve Shelli aka the ASSes!!!! They are the most unlikable, good for nothing, diseased parasites, but good at what they do, intimidation by giving you the CREEPs like Cockroaches that will survive World War 3. Austin perv, Steve far burp master who crawled out of the basement, Shelli whose love affair with her son and whose smelly shirt tantrum changed the BB house forever.

        What do you say! The ASSes vs. the VaJaJays could F*CK each other over the rest of the summer with Vivid Entertainment sponsoring the Takeovers! Wouldn’t it be great to hear Julie doing the play-by-play, inviting the biggest pervs from BB history like Frankie back into the house as a nipplyTwisty Twist. Because this show is a real joke. As it stands now, with all the mentally unstable, basement dwellers, & circus clowns, it could be an event at the Special Olympics.

    2. This is what it looks like when production puts ideas in their heads during DR to make the show “more exciting”. However, it was super exciting on its own. The next steps after Vanessa would be cool to watch given how the groups interpenetrate each other. The alternative, Sheli goes, then Becky because it’s safest – lame.

  9. I absolutely love this season! There isn’t really anyone that’s an amazing game player, but i think that’s what makes it so great. Literally anyone could win at this point! Last season was too predictable, we needed a season like this.

    1. I agree. This is a really good season. I am not super attached to anyone but I do have respect for a few of the players this year. No one is really hateful, catty or over the top vulgar. Everyone is pretty likeable. Add that to the fact that there are a couple of really good, strong, smart female competitors plus James it makes the comps exciting and you never for sure who will win. Don’t care who wins, just enjoying the show. Great cast, they should all be proud of themselves. I can always excuse tears and some emotional outbursts, can you imagine the stress!

      1. They needed a good season like this to get the taste of last years dud out of our mouths. I love how the house changes from day to day.

  10. I would personally rather Vanessa leave, but it’s probably better for JJM to keep her because Shelli has a great shot at winning HOH and would absolutely put up James and Jackie. Vanessa would gun for Becky.

    1. I totally agree with you. I can see their logic here and they are right. It’s a risky move, but they are right to think the way they are thinking. The three of them would be OFF Vanessa’s radar and Becky and JMac would jump to the front of the line. Shelli, on the other hand, would try to knock them out right away. Definitely a risky move but if James goes to Vanessa about this, it’s going to be a done deal. Vanessa is going to tell him EVERYTHING about Becky the snitch and it will be a deal-breaker for them. She will promise to keep them safe and for DE she will but they will have to follow up on getting her out because when all is said and done, when its down to JJM and AJL, Vanessa is going to choose AJL.

      I’m totally for the underdogs.

    2. The problem with Vanessa staying leaves the Austwins clear another week. Vanessa goes and they have to start playing – way better.

      1. if vanessa stays i would not be at all surprised if she puts up austin and becky she mentioned how he abandoned her right away im pretty sure she lost all faith in austin and possibly the twins
        would not be surprised if she joined jjm to go against the rest of the house if they gave her a chance. she would bring steve along and it eould be 5 vs 3 and 2 with the 3 and 2 being easily swayed against each other.
        she would also be a huge target shield for them because jmac and becky would be gunning for her so they would not even need to backstab her to get rid of her making her a good jury vote in their favor.

      2. Agree, but they have zero strategy because they’ve been vacationing all summer. I don’t think they would be hard to outsmart…

    3. I gotta disagree. I think if they keep Vanessa, they have to tell Becky first, or else they gain an enemy. She’ll do damage control before eviction and (if she’s smart) say she was pressured by JJM to put up Vanessa, but then fought for her to stay because she felt “so awful.” They make up, and then they turn on the idiots with Steve, JMac, Austin, Liz, and Julia. That’s like 7 vs 1 and 1/2. If you go with the Van eviction plan, you go with the numbers. Simple as that.

    4. And, I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to see Shelli evicted with her yoga clothes and shoes on!!! Her cocky arrogant ass thinking she’s safe- safe enough to play in the HOH comp…. HA!!!!!

    5. I do agree with this, although I don’t care who goes home Austin and twins will still be going after James, Becky., and Jackie…the only difference is Vanessa will be gunning for Becky, and Shelli will be goin after James….Although, I think keeping Vanessa will really piss Becky off, and Becky may join the other side again, remember Becky is a flip-flopper

  11. LOL the goblins are so dumb. For the past 3 days they have been forming their goblin circles throughout the house and bashing Vanessa, and now they want to keep her. They are burning the remaining bridges they have left. Austin and the twins only tell them what they want to hear, they’ll never work with them, and keeping Vanessa will only burn the bridges they have with Becky and JohnnyMAC because they both want Vanessa out bad. They think they are being sharp but really they are blowing up their games faster than Vanessa talks!

    1. Don’t be so sure. Vanessa was upset that her people didn’t seem to even come by and ask if she was okay for a while but played nice with the other side. If they approach her and say, we thought the treatment was awful. Let’s start over. We will keep you, but you HAVE to promise you will reciprocate and keep us safe for DE. If so, we will have built trust and work from there.
      Especially it will make Vanessa gun for Becky and J-Mac more.

  12. No! You idiots! Stay the course! What happened to you feeling safer in the house with Shelli than Vanessa? Why if you know how Vanessa operates, the way she is playing, are you going to continue to let her do so? She is with no one and everyone at the same time. Do you not see how dangerous it is to keep someone like that in the house? At least with Shelli, you know where she stands (with what’s left of Sixth Sense). I can foresee this backfiring badly for Becky and Johnny Mac. Imagine the vote is 7-1 to evict Shelli, and JMac is the only one who voted to evict Vanessa. Becky is going to be pissed at “her group.” And JMac and Becky will be the outsiders, ripe for picking during double eviction. Austin and Liz already want Steve and JMac out (sounds like JMac before Steve) because they are worried they could win the whole season. This is worst-case scenario when it should have been a lock. #TeamJohnnyMac

    1. Idk I happen to agree with them. Vanessa would definitely go after Becky now. And shelli will definitely go after James when she gets the chance. Plus Van isn’t very good at physical comps, so is only a serious threat at mental ones, whereas shelli is a serious threat at both.

    2. They keep forgetting that the only people in their alliance who can win an individual HOH are James and Becky. James can’t win back-to-back HOH comps. They never think things through.

    3. i think they finally see the big picture
      they do not care about becky at all and they want johny mac out they know shelly will go after one of them but vanessa will go after becky and jmac.
      chances of vanessa winning anything else then a mental comp are slim whereas shelly could very well win hog and put james and jackie up.
      also by keeping vanessa they can pull in austin and the twins and steve leaving becky and jmac as outsiders. they are both better at comps them austin and the twins and not as wishywashy as austin and the twins.
      the twins and austin already showed they are willing to jump ship whereas jmac has a history of not changing his mind and voting against the house.
      i think this is their best move by far. they get rid of a big target make 4 allies in the process and no blood on their hands at all leaving 2 outsiders the whole house can gun for. after that its just a matter of beating austin and the twins in comps which if going by track record so far should not be that difficult.

      1. Yeah and as all that happens (being safer for two more weeks), the side opposite grows in number against them to be picked off. Sending Vanessa home gives them the chance to firm up some soft alliances, get rid of some from the other side, and have their own numbers to fight it out several weeks down the road.

  13. No! You idiots! Stay the course! What happened to they felt safer with Shelli in the house than Vanessa? Why-if they know how Vanessa operates-are they going to allow her to continue to do so? Vanessa is with no one and everyone at the same time. It’s like she spins around in a circle and whoever she stops on is her target…until she changes her mind again. At least with Shelli, you know where she stands (with the remaining Sixth Sense). This could end very badly for Becky and JMac. Imagine a 7-1 vote to evict Shelli with only JMac voting to evict Vanessa. Becky will be too pissed at the Gonlins to continue working with them, and it will be Becky and JMac as the outsiders. This is worst-case scenario when it should have been a lock. Austin and Liz already want JMac and Steve out (JMac before Steve) out of fear that JMac or Steve will win the season. I don’t like this at all. #TeamJohnnyMac

  14. Now these other two village idiots are listening to MEG the useless ? They deserve to lose on their pure stupidity alone . The stench of that beanie alone would make me vote out Vanasty

  15. Seems like production has stepped in again and asked Meg, Jackie and James to discuss the possibility of evicting Vanessa and keeping shelli. Same story line every week!!!

    1. Production always does this, every stinkin year. DR sessions to invoke their wants and desires. It sucks and you have to wonder who is the genius behind it. Grodner? Would she be so dumb as to do it EVERY year, when SHE deems necessary? It wouldn’t be so bad if the DR sesh to do list was something America wanted, but when it’s her (AG) way or the highway, we just can’t stand it…..but we still watch.. Pretty decent year, so far

  16. So JJM would rather have an extremely high chance of alienating 2 numbers, then a lower chance of losing 1. I don’t feel like rooting for them anymore.

  17. This a repost from another thread and I have “updated” it.

    I was really hoping the “votes to evict Shellie” was a typo.
    Strangely enough, I am torn as the Goblins make some good points.
    On the one hand, get rid of Vanessa.
    You don’t make unnecessary enemies (Becky and JohnnyMac), you prove you can be trusted and keep the numbers on your side.
    Van is sneaky, untrustworthy, drama causing and is proving to be mentally unstable.
    Get rid of her and you get rid of the common denominator of the opposing sides in the house as well remove the Twins’ brains as well as keeping still in the fragile stage allies happy.
    BUT….getting rid of Shellie removes one person who is influential with the opposing side and you KNOW is gunning for you, it would be the true blindside AND you have exposed Vanessa and destroyed her game in one fell swoop.
    Let’s face it, DE is going to be a free for all blood bath…let it begin with the 1st eviction. Shellie goes and then (IF James wins HOH), put Van up with a twin.
    Stupid? Probably. But oh, the fallout….

    1. Van is only untrustworthy to those NOT in her alliance. She has shown that she jeopardized her game to help them. Show her the semblance of the same and she might surprise them. Will certainly shake up the house and give them a shot. I LIKE it

  18. This is not the way I would have envisioned the stars aligning, and I still have my doubts but if things were to progress the following would have to happen:
    James Jackie Meg talk to Vanessa. Vanessa reveals Becky was passing info to Shelli and Clay last week before nominations. reveals Shelli and Clay wanted Jackie on the block and Vanessa kept her word and put up Jason instead. Reveals Becky and John are tighter than they think (Becky revealed it to the Generals).
    No more guilt by James Jackie and Mega-fool about going back on Becky’s wishes.
    Get the twins in on the deal. Twins convince Austin.
    Vanessa knows Steve knew about the plan and didn’t tell her. Betrayal in her eyes.
    Vanessa knows John is after her. Betrayal in her eyes.
    Vanessa knows Becky is after her. Venomous betrayal in her eyes.
    New targets for Vanessa who takes things personally and thinks people betraying her is the highest sin (no matter who she betrays).
    And none of them know this week is double eviction. they think it’s next week.
    Is Shelli a greater threat than Vanessa? equal threat in terms of comp wins really. Since James Meg and Jackie seem to think Vanessa is a lone wolf I guess they think Shelli has more ties to Austin and the twins in the game? Somebody call mensa. tell them they have nothing to worry about.
    It is the weirdest situation to consider. But it’s only Tuesday.
    Even though James was already talking about taking the opportunity to get rid of Shelli before nominations, and is now trying to keep himself safe, I don’t know if Mega-dingus and Jackie have the stones to go against Becky. It’s a fact that Becky is the bottom of the totem pole for that alliance. Besides, someone will let the plan slip to Steve, and it will get back to John and/or Shelli. The chances of this plan making it’s way to reality on Thursday are about 20%. A lot of variables to cover in two days. And the Mega-useless, Jackie and James triad still haven’t decided for sure whether or not Audrey actually was telling them the truth about the big alliance, so will two days be enough time for them to cover all of the variables?
    At least Tuesday and Wednesday shouldn’t be a rehash of todays 1 million and one ways we hate Vanessa. That was just getting sad and pathetic.
    And yes, i’m not such a big fan of Meg. Sorry to her fans, but let’s get serious. Jace has a better shot at deserving to be named the winner than she does. Who would vote for her in jury? even Jackie and James would be thinking token tag along to ensure a win for the other player.

  19. Production Production Production.. this idea reeks of it. Becky should lock the 3 stooges in the HOH till thursday and keep them out of the DR. lets keep the Villain its better for TV. Except Vanessa and her diarreha of the mouth ramblings isn’t a Villain she is a hypocrete and that is 1000% times worse. Hey idiot if you are going to make 20 deals and break them all Fine!! no probably with that its Big Brother!
    JUST OWN IT!! Villain arent Sniveling little cry baby cowards. take the pacifier out of your mouth Vanessa, at least after Rachel cried for 4 hours she came out and kicked peoples As###. With time constraints u know the HOH is going to be a brain Game, which is the only part of Vanessa body she uses apprently in the outside wolrd so she WILL WIN. and the goblins will lose becky. Please goblins stop listening to production and use your head. get miss know it all out. and deal with The Queen B next week

  20. People are looking at this scenario all wrong. Under what circumstances is Shelli ever going to align with JJMB?

    If she turned her back on Austwins she could and would go to Jmac and Steve. Getting rid of Shelli prevents Jmac and Steve from aligning with her and forces Jmac and Steve to pick sides.

    Getting rid of Shelli now is better for JJM and even Becky’s long term game. And here’s why.

    If Shelli stays in the game, and even if Steve or Jmac went after Austwins, and JJMB helped JSS finish off the threesome, it’s going to be harder for JJMB to take on JSS at the end game stage. Austin and the Twins have been fairly clueless all season. Those three are easier to beat. James/Jackie/Becky have more combined wins than Austin/Liz/Julia.

    Shelli has performed the best in all comps consistently, not counting this weeks POV.

    If JJM approached Vanessa last minute, after she has resigned to being evicted, it would throw her off. She wouldn’t be studying for the DE, and is very emotional right now. Plus even if Vanessa won HOH she would probably put up Becky and Jmac (the two people directly after her). And if one won POV she could put up Meg to ensure the other left.

    Becky would still be well protected heading into the DE. James/Jackie/Meg/and Jmac would be fighting to protect her.

    And if James/Jackie/Meg/Jmac win HOH they can all go after Vanessa again.

    Plus as the saying goes. When you feel safe like Shelli does this week, is usually when you’re in the most danger.

    Vanessa and Shelli leaving is really good for JJMB. The order in which they leave however, can be strategically debated. Personally I’d want Shelli gone before Vanessa from a strategic point of view.

  21. Talk to Becky first. Let her go to Vanessa and tell her this was all a test of her “loyalty / word”, Deal to keep her word and target Austwins, backdoor Austin like she should have to break up that threesome.

  22. Now all vanessa has to do is get Austin and go propose a deal with James. She only needs one more, I think James will give it to her.

  23. Not Evicting Vanessa would be the biggest mistake in the history of BB next to Lawton volunteering to go on the block. They will be picked off one by one and then Shelli will come back in the house and the sixth sense will be in the final 5.

    1. Dont forget Marcellus not using the veto on himself. Although its hard to pick between marcellus “i love you poeple too much to pull myself off the block” and Lawon “evict me so i can get that special power”

  24. Meg is actually not as bad at this game then I thought. She personally likes Shelli more than Vanessa, but she is willing to put her feelings aside to make a better game move. If she keeps Vanessa, that gives them a better chance of keeping the goblins safe. Shelli will def. go after James whereas Van will likely go after Becky/Johnny Mac.

  25. Say what you want about JJM but it would actually be better for THEM to keep Vanessa. Vanessa would immediately try to smoke Becky and JMac, where as Shelli would focus revenge on JJM. I am so on board with the way they are thinking right now and once Vanessa spills the snitch’s secrets, James will get the Angels on board.

    I hate to see people call them stupid because while they aren’t Will, Boogie or Evil Dick, they ARE trying to play the game to the best of their ability. Everyone has their own style of playing whether it be hard or soft, but these people aren’t stupid. They are in a situation where every guess is a second guess, and a third guess, etc., while they try to land on the right thing to do.

    We can see from Vanessa’s reaction that it’s extremely intense emotionally because she is HURT for real, even though she is extremely dramatic. The ironic thing is that they don’t see themselves in the middle of all of this mess and truly don’t see the crap they do, but are quick to see it in someone else. Shelli is the EXACT same – thinking she doesn’t deserve to be on the block. When she said that, all I could think about was her saying “let’s put someone small up…” I was like – someone small? Really?

    Anyway – I’m #teamJJM and think them keeping Vanessa is better for their games right now. I hope they have the guts to do it.

  26. Tbh…after seeing Shelly (like what dawg said) “being dangerous” again cutting deals and playing smart with Austwins a while ago JJM’s best option really is to evict her. I know its frustrating that Vanessa might be safe but this decision is I believe the right one for JJM. We are all just getting annoyed that Vanessa might stay but this is the closest we see Jackie and Meg PLAY real BB.
    Vanessa is sure desperate and Shelly is more dangerous coming to DE. I want Vanessa evicted this week but Shelly getting evicted first is still fine with me. Vanessa or Shelly I dont care, both of them are members of 6sense anyways, only Vanessa is crazy and Shelly is DANGEROUS. I say go for it..evict Shelly. You have to take chances, its Big Brother. Lets play!

  27. Wow things have flipped since I was last on here. I think it would be an interesting development if they target Shelli instead.

  28. I’m gonna go ape shit if they keep that fool Vanessa in the game! They deserve to lose if they are that stupid. Geez Meg is an idiot!

  29. These people change their mind every ten seconds. “Yeah, we’re on board with getting Vanessa out.” Ten seconds later…”Let’s get Shelli out instead. We can get Vanessa out during Double Eviction.” What is wrong with these idiots. Vanessa is obviously the bigger long-term threat. If they decide to leave her in the house, I hope she manages to win the first HOH on Thursday. It would serve them right. In the beginning, I liked Vanessa but as the weeks go by, she just gets more and more paranoid. However, after reading this post, I just want her to stay just to be responsible for either Meg, Jackie, or James’ eviction. It would serve them right.

  30. I will SO HAPPY if Vanessa stays, wins double, and puts up Becky and sends her packing. After that, I don’t care. This season has been so entertaining and so back-and-forth, I’m rooting for different people all the time. I still want to see Austin go home ASAP though. Johnny Mac has been a favourite, but I’m ready for him to make some game moves. I still do like Vanessa, she’s made some mistakes, but if she’s managed to convince everyone that she’s less dangerous than Shelli, then she deserves to still be there.

  31. Although their reasoning is off, getting rid of Shelli isn’t the worst move – she’s good at comps and is secretly developing a Becky/JMac/Shelli alliance.

    Vanessa (and by extension the rest of the 6th Sense ?) will be gunning for Becky/JMac

    Keeping Vanessa just makes things awkward for everyone (Including Austin and stuff he’s said yesterday about Vanessa) except Team Goblin, so maybe James has stumbled onto the perfect move ?

  32. Its going to be tough trying to explain to my doctor what made my blood pressure spike. I better take an extra dose now cuz its going to be a long day.

  33. I know everyone wants Van out, but what the goblins are saying makes sense. Shelli went from very meek and powerless after Clays eviction to her gaining confidence with the t shirt fiasco.. She is bringing in the Austwins, and she wants to allign with Jmac and steve. Shelli is much more dangerous than Van. I wouldnt have said that 2 weeks ago, but now everyone is on to Vans game. Shelli is growing power with growing confidence, she is on point with her social game play! Shelli is the better BB player, and she needs to go.

  34. Are you kidding me? I bet the look on Vanessa’s face when she got put on the block wasn’t anything compared to the looks on our faces right now.

  35. Too early in the week for J/J/M to have a decision like this, they will probably change by Thursday, but it will be really fun to watch if they blindside Becky like this.

  36. YES! if Vanessa stays im REALLY liking this season. Power shifts and Blindsides are great!. i dont think it would be a bad idea to knock out Shelli for JMJ. But if i were JMJ i would try to make a deal with Austwins the night before Eviction (Dont give Vanessa time to study if she thinks shes going home). Offer them a final 6 deal, I think Austwins are getting tired of Vanessa and her theatrics. And Sorry but i dont like the way Steve, Jmac and Becky have been playing as floaters/floppers i know its a strategy but i like someone whos played the game to win it. Make a deal to take out vanessa and JBS. And you have a 3v3 in the final 6.

  37. Flipping to getting Shelli out? There are still two full days and half of Thursday to marinate this idea and Im sure this will flip back and forth. If this ever remotely leaked out (and it will….) then the whole house would go batsh*t crazy! If Vanessa senses she has some hope, then WWIII will ensue between Shelli and Vanessa. And Becky will looooooose it too! I want to see Van and Shelli truly fight to obtain votes and this little nugget of info is all that is needed.

    Anyway, at least this might make what would have been three dull days into something interesting.

  38. Vanessa is getting exactly what she wants, she doesn’t have to campaign just get really upset with becky and hope the houseguests are stupid enough to feel safe with her and guess what goblin fans, they were!

  39. If it were any other Player but Vanessa, the logic would make some sense…

    If they keep Vanessa, They lose numbers..The 5 becomes 3 and they are actually out numbered by Van,Aus and the Twits..If they keep Shelli its 5 on 5 …4 vs 5 for HOH…Becky shouldve made a deal w Shelli that She stays only if She targets Steve

    They also have to deal w JohnnyMac if He won HOH and Becky the next HOH potentially

    It’s a bad game move..But what really SUCKS is Austin and the TwinMorons benefit no matter what happens

  40. Keeping Vanessa is a bad move. She may not be coming for JJM first, but she is the mastermind of the otherwise. Get her out and that side is worthless as they don’t have a brain. Shelli may be good at comps, but I don’t think she can think through her plays like Vanessa. She doesn’t even have Clay to talk to. Meg is the only one safe on her side because she can’t win to save her life. In order for JJM side to be safe, they need to keep Becky happy for a number on their side. Not sure why everyone is good with ALJ because those 3 seem to vote together. Keep Vanessa and she will be able to control those 3 votes in her favor.
    I also wonder if production makes them think through the possibility of switching to try and get some action, instead of us knowing for sure which one is going home. Seems the talk is happening weekly after POV when everyone was on board for a certain person.

    1. Reminds me of the gremlins from BBCAN2, but theyre not as dumb as Rachelle/Sobrina…well i dont know about Meg. I prefer “the scampers” because the word had been thrown around and they have played mostly the Summer CAMPERS role.

      1. We also had Pili and Ashley in BBCAN3 that were called the goblins. I think these goblins are better that BBCAN3 goblins but those BBCAN2 gremlins are hard to beat.

        1. Thats right, i called em “sidechicks”.
          Better in which way? Game or personality? Ash & pilli won some HOHs and veto. But almost refused to play any social game once Production messed with last half of the game. Man, BBCAN3 was bad! Actually watching BBCAN2 over again now.

    2. People who think Van is the Big Bully are in for a wakeup if Becky finds out about this plan. She will be foaming at the mouth. I would like to see James negotiate this deal with Van and Austin late Wednesday night. Closeup camera shots of Shelli and Becky when Julie announces the vote would be PRICELESS. Come on,production. Get this done.

  41. geez people open your eyes.. its james not meg pushing to evict shelli first and its only for an hour till the end of de.. and oh yeah he’s absolutely right.. they just can’t let van know until live eviction.. shes a friggin mess right now and will suck it in the comp then they just boot her ass out unlike shelli who will likely win and come straight for them.. james is the dark horse this season he’s smarter than all of em..

    1. I think you’re right. I’m starting to like James more and more. I just have to get over his crudeness. If he takes Becky out he will for sure be my favorite.

  42. From the previous thread

    Jackie – lets go see Becky.. we have to support her
    Meg – ya

    Support = Following the HOH plan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! geesh

  43. It would be fun to see Vanessa stay and blow up everything while saying how loyal she is. It would serve them all right since there is no one she wouldn’t turn on. We viewers get to keep watching the trainwreck while loving/hating the characters. This is good reality television even though on a personal level I dislike Vanessa and I was frankly relieved she was finally leaving this week.

  44. Big BB mistake NOT to evict Vanessa – She will put on the backburner Becky and JMac and set her priorities on the strongest alliance which is JJM – so better stick to the plan or JJM just blew it.

    1. The strongest alliance is JMAC and Becky. Those two can get in and out of messes because they can win comps. Becky had to throw a couple just so people will stop seeing her as a competition beast. Add Shelli in that mix and everyone will be dead in the water.

      Those guys will pick off James next, after that Julia or Austin. If Shelli stays, JMAC, Becky and Shelli are final three. If they keep Vanessa, they have a better fighting chance. Shelli is gone, Becky cant play in next one, so that leaves first eviction to take out JMAC or Becky. If they can see that, I dont think they care how Becky feels. Its best for their game to take out Shelli, also best for twins too.

  45. Shellie stealing that hoodie while she is on the block might be the single dumbest move from the last four years of Big Brother.

  46. If James, Meg and Jackie keep Vanessa they deserve everything they get. That would be so stupid. They are stupid to think that the Austwin hv their back. Why would you piss Becky and John off knowing that Vanessa will target them and they will feel totally betrayed if Vanessa stays. Although it’s true Vanessa staying may be better for JJM but the number one rule is don’t play scared and protect your peeps as much as possible without harming your game. I hope they are just sleep deprived and talking craziness. And Shelli is back to showing her true colors. She’s too old to be bitching about James wearing Clay’s shirt. That is so jr high its shows her true character.

  47. The irony of this situation is Vanessa does have loyalties, she does have a strong allliance. Becky, JJM think she is playing all sides, but she isn’t. It just looks like she is. In Vanessa f*cked up head, she had a plan going into this week to keep everyone in her alliance safe. Did it include putting up some of her alliance members sure, but the one going home in her mind was supposed to be Jmac.

    If they think keeping Vanessa is better because she is all over the place, making deals with the entire house. Therefore no one trust her. They are sorely mistaken.

  48. Everyone giving Shelli soooooo much credit for being a great Player…but
    She knows it’s a close vote…Why isnt She making peace with James ( even if its just to throw Him off ) and spending time with Meg and Jackie ?

    If She goes home this week,,She has Herself to blame

    1. Agreed, Shelli is playing dumb and emotionally right now. Johnny told her on the lounge chairs yesterday that she needed to make peace with that side and she basically shut it down. Then she went and stole the hoodie from James.

      There’s nothing more wrathful than the scornful of a woman, as they say.

      1. I had to listen to that statement a couple of times to make sure that’s what he said. So funny !! Haven’t laughed like that since Jason’s squerrrellll !!!

  49. Vanessa fan says yeah! They are right. Scheming Shelli will target them all. She had dagger eyes last week when they were both up.

  50. In the words of Simon & Dawg, ZOMG! Freaks & Geeks are back! I am loving this, even though I know there’s about a 1% chance of it happening. Chaos FTW.

    1. ZOMG is right! I think once the goblins find out how mad Becky will be if Shelli goes home they will pull back their plan. Still it’s going to make for a fun week.

      1. The beauty of this Season is that no matter what side You are on,,,It has been entertaining as Hell..And after BB15 which included a cast of very skanky Players,,and BB16,,which was a HUGE yawnnnnn,,It has been fun so far

      2. Even better, they can evict Shelli and then she wins the buyback and anniahlates them anyway. That would be some good TV. I’m going to pray on that scenario.

  51. Wow if they change there vote it will bite them in the ass. They will lose becky and jmac and i can see becky going straight to vanessa and telling her that james and jacky both made her to put vanessa up just to screw becky over and make becky the main target. Venessa will then go after james. So imo jjm are gonna screw themselves and they will lose becky at the same time. Bad move for james and jacky.

    1. The way Becky made it soo personal against Vanessa to the fact she wont even talk to her now will show Vanessa that this was all Becky (with jmac is her ear). All James has to say to her is Shelli is and has been his target. If he wanted Vanessa gone more than Shelli he could have done that last week with Veto,

  52. Here’s what i think will happen:

    The ADC will bring this Shelli backdoor idea to Becky, she will be strongly be against it, and they will drop it and Vanessa still goes.

    1. I think they should wait to tell Becky until an hour before the vote, like Becky did telling Austin about her true plan this week. I don’t think JJM will be losing much as I don’t think Becky was with them for the long haul. Becky would have formed another team with Shelli and JM which will also include the twins on the side.

  53. All you dumbasses are letting your personal feelings get in the way. It is absolutely best for JJM to evict Shelli. Shelli has Becky and Johnny, while Vanessa is Becky and Johnny’s target. If Vanessa is evicted, Shelli will have Austin, Liz, Julia, Becky, and Johnny. Who, besides JJM will go after Shelli?? No one, DUMBASSES. If Shelli is evicted, Vanessa will only have Austin, Liz, and Julia, and Becky, Johnny, and JJM will be going after her. This is not about your personal feelings for Vanessa DUMBASSES… It’s about what’s best for JJM’S game.

  54. It may be better for to have Shelli go 1st… She thinks she’s siting pretty and Vanessa’s a mess.. Nobody listened to James strategy last week, so who should care about Becky’s this week…Shelli is really starting to play game again, and she will be dangerous to keep her around, I feel James is the Glue that keeps them together, and he will be Shelli’s 1st target…I’d keep it secret till the day of eviction., keep it from shelli and vanessa.

    1. The later Vanessa kows about this plan the better. The way Vanessa has been playing, she’s liable to talk so much, that they talk James out of it.

  55. I’m so happy this is happening! They’re finally playing smart. Vanessa is much easier to get out. Shelli and her fake ass need to go! Stop being lame guys this is best for their game. Hope it sticks.

  56. Both Shelly & Vanessa will go after JAmes, Jackie and Meg so it does not matter which of the two go home this week omgaaaaa!!!!! If Vanessa stay, she’ll go after the othr side. If Shelly stay, she’ll go after the othr side. It don’t matter which of the two goes home at this point, as long as one of them is out the door! I personally think that Shelly should go home this week because she is a stronger player in comp vs Van.

    1. In the immediate term, I think Vanessa has fewer options than Shellie, because of how betrayed people feel, and how mistrustful they are of her – Becky and Johnny Mac seem to HATE her … and they’re much more capable of winning competitions than JJM.

      So Vanessa almost has to try and win HOH, to try to get out Becky and Johnny Mac first – she might not have much of a choice?

      But in the long-term, yeah am sure JJM would be on her target list before her Austin, the twins, Steve.

  57. Shelli is a great player, she’s definitely smart, but not as smart as Vanessa. DoNt these houseguests know she was a professional gambler and went to law school? They are committing bb suicide if they keep her. These people are so dumb. Get rid of Liz! Austin will be useless after that! That would be the smart thing to do imo.

  58. Okay, to clarify, when I called The Goblins idiots, I was talking about their gameplay, not them as people. Like from a game perspective, they would be idiots to change the plan that was set in motion.

    Secondly, I hate that people are calling JMac a floater. Did you not see the live feeds when he was telling Shelli and Steve separately about who to pick if they get Houseguest’s Choice when they pick players for veto? That was JMac playing the game. He could have just let the chips fall where they may, and say it was Becky’s plan, not his. And do you remember that whole Clay and James fight? It all started when JMac told Clay that Clay staying was better for JMac’s game. When JMac openly admitted that, Vanessa said, “You and I both know there is no way you could have come up with that on your own!” Like he was oblivious or wasn’t observant. Or I don’t know, smart enough to make a conclusion like that. And what? JMac is a floater because he hasn’t won an HOH? He isn’t the only one in the house who hasn’t won an HOH (and I’m sorry, but if you were dethroned after BOB, that doesn’t count to me because you didn’t remain in power heading into eviction and therefore weren’t tasked with potentially having to name a replacement nominee. Or convince the house to go after your target.) If you base it on statistical wins, he’s only won 2 POV comps and 1 BOB. 2 BOB he threw. But other than that, he has had pretty consistently strong finishes no matter what kind of comp it was (endurance, mental, physical). Why do you think people have wanted to work with him? Because they acknowledge that he is good at comps and could benefit from having someone like that on their side. Floaters would be like, “Must. Throw. Every. Comp.” #TeamJohnnyMac

    1. Jmac’s distrust of Vanessa stemmed from all the hidden talks with Becky. He come up with that on his own like he told Clay. No one knows how close Jmac and Becky are.

    1. Would someone kindly tell Julie;s husband, Moondoggie, that we are fed up with BB being kicked to one side in favour of a bunch of grown men running and tossing a ball and getting tackled. Every BB season they interrupt our viewing, and always on eviction night. CBS, please restructure your scheduling.

  59. I love shel and want her to stay, but I can totally see how it benefits the goblins to evict her, but can they get the votes?
    I’m hoping Steve is done with van. The twins like shell better. Aus will cave to the twins?

  60. I think this is a huge error for the goblins if they go against Becky on this one. Both Becky and Johnny Mac are going to go berserk. Austin and the Twins will freak out. Vanessa will go into revenge mode and if by some strange occurrence she would hook back up with Becky and John the Gremlins will be in real trouble. Then there is the Steve factor. He will think he is living in an alternate universe if this goes down. Big risk for the goblins. Lots of high drama guaranteed. Love this season.

  61. I actually think that JJM are right. Vanessa is a threat, but Shelli is more dangerous to the 3 of them. They will regret it if Shelli stays this week. Her #1 target is James and Jackie. She will win another HOH soon and they will lose a number.
    Vanessa is less likely to win HOH than Shelli, she is vulnerable right now and if she did win HOH, she would be gunning for Becky and JMac. Becky has not been 100% honest with JJM. Becky wants to team up with Shelli and JMac, Shelli is close with the twins but not so much with Austin. Becky WILL flip on JJM if Shelli stays.
    I don’t want to see Vanessa leave yet. She brings the entertainment factor, Shelli makes me want to hurl, she is so fake and conceited. Becky blew up Vanessa’s game, and she was needlessly mean. Getting Vanessa out is only good for Becky and JMac. I think the twins prefer Vanessa, same with Austin. Becky went about this the wrong way, she really has nobody but JMac in the house. I have never seen an HOH that had to go to the HN room to visit with other HG. Nobody wants to go up there and listen to her boring droning stories. I really want to see Shelli blindsided, Becky blindsided and a humbled Vanessa staying another week. If they keep Shelli they will regret it. If they keep Vanessa, she will protect them at least during DE. All they need to tell Vanessa is that Becky self invited herself into their alliance, which is true. She stuck to them like glue last week, they went along with her during her HOH, but they don’t trust her. If Steve catches wind of the possible flip, he will be on board. In fact, it could end up that only JMac votes to keep Shelli. Becky will wish she had been a little nicer to Vanessa.

  62. Yesterday, I watched feeds all day. During that time, I kept thinking, wow, Shelli is poisoning the Vanessa eviction with honey.
    All day, she talked to Jmac, Steve, twins, Austin, she has them all on board being the six. She went around feeling them out, planting seeds, even coming straight out telling Jmac and Steve where their loyalty needed to be.
    They are BOTH dangerous, but IMO, Shelli is the sneaker one of the two.

    1. EXACTLY what I said too…Instead of workingwith the People She needs to, even if its just for appearances (JJM)

      Foolish strategy by Shelli

  63. Would be a smart move to evict Shelli while you have the (2nd) chance…..Vanessa just became heavily exposed and at this point, her game is shot.

  64. I stand corrected. Vanessa isn’t the only one who constantly changes her targets. The house is too. Audrey is the target, no Da’Vonne is the target. James is the target, no Audrey, no Jeff. Jason is the target, no Audrey. Shelli is the target, no Clay. Vanessa is the target, no Shelli. Heck, they might as well play Gronk Pong. Except instead of point values, there are names of remaining houseguests. Who is the new target for the time being? Let’s find out. This constantly changing target nonsense is getting old.

  65. I guess its good Vanessa got Clay out instead of Shelli now. If it was her and Clay up no WAY Meg would turn on Clay lolz

  66. All I can say is, if James is really thinking about keeping shelli over Vanessa. I’m going to laugh really hard when shelli hands him his ass. Especially when he made such a big promise to shelli and then broke that promise in such a big way. Who cares about getting Becky mad. She’s at the bottom of that totem pole anyway. Can Becky play in the next HOH?

  67. *facepalm x1000*

    These people change there minds more than politicians. Don’t they realize they just make more enemies if they go against Becky here

  68. Do you all think the goblins will actually go with the plan to keep Vanessa?

    I don’t’ think they will once they find out how pissed Becky will be. Glad they are having the idea though a little goblins scrambling early week is fun :)

    1. Becky is just one person, and judging from how they prefer to be in the have not room instead of hanging in HOH with Becky shows that they don’t care that much about Becky. Becky can’t play in the next HOH, and if Vanessa stays and wins, Becky and Jmac are the ones that should be worried. Becky can get as mad as she wants, because by the end of the live show 2 people will have been evicted and there will be a brand new HOH. Becky made a lot of the same mistakes that Vanessa has made, but at least Vanessa had people on her side. Becky has been outed to the whole house as a flopper. She has her own reasons for keeping Shelli that only benefit her and Johnny. I hope they keep things in perspective. If Shelli goes, who cares if Becky is mad at them. I would rather have Becky gunning for me than Shelli.

    2. I agree with Simon. Becky the devil will come out when JJM suggest Shelli goes to jury instead. If you have the feeds, you realize just how much Becky wants Van out of the house. Becky hasn’t stop explaining her move for 48+ straight hours. Literally telling JJM the same sh*t over and over again. It was like a broken record.

    3. Am having a hard time getting a handle on Becky, and who would become her primary targets if all this goes down (Shellie goes out on Thursday instead of Vanessa).

      Like she’ll be super pissed – but will she still be stuck having to worry about Vanessa first, if she were to win HOH? Or will she so pissed she’d switch targets to James?

      Have been wondering about that – not totally sure how Becky makes her decisions :/

  69. I guess JJ&M has HOH-itis now. They just can’t seem to wrap their brains around the fact that they need Becky and Johnny Mac in order to have the majority of the votes. Getting rid of Vanessa would be the best thing for EVERYONE’s game. I also love how Meg keeps saying “we have to win the next HOH” when she hasn’t even come close to winning anything except a Krunk cruise and that was just pure luck. Maybe when they finally wake up today, they’ll see that they need to vote out Vanessa.

  70. I honestly do not care who wins at this point. I just want the power to shift each and every week. Makes for a lot of explosions and all the little nutty House guests scramble. For the first time in a long time I have no idea what will happen from week to week. And after the last couple of seasons, thank goodness.
    Heck I hope they vote out Shelli Thursday and Becky (or Austin) goes in the double. Then I want Steve to win and take out Vanessa. Then Julia can take out someone. No one would know whose side they are on.. Let’s have a free for all!!
    Simon/Dawg – Your posts make me laugh. THANK YOU!!

  71. I am torn on this latest turn of events…. It is 50/50 Good and a Terrible Idea.
    Yes after Vanessa go’s Shell, will win another HoH and she will target one of the Gremlins to keep Austwins as suitable pawns… but she’s also working with JMac, Steve and Becky so their plan is to take out one of the Austwins out using Johnny Mac or Becky. One each from each side. Shelli is a HUGE threat still, they are 100% correct in that… the problem is keeping Vanessa in is also a HUGE threat. If James had gone full blown ruthless Shelli is my target and took off Clay and put up Liz to control the votes…. he would be in a much better position and that group would have split wide open so getting out Vanessa this week would have been so much easier… I still feel James made a Great Big move last week and put them on notice but he failed to do what he had to do.

    So now we have this week Shelli vs. Vanessa…. there is a path to keeping Vanessa and evicting Shelli is a great move for the Gremlins. They probably have not even seen it because they have locked themselves in the HN room like Audrey had triplets. Vanessa is highly disappointed angr and upset by her “friends” in the house abandoning her. She knows that Austin, Liz, Julia and Steve are NOT lifting a pinky to save her. They are avoiding her because they don’t want to be seen with her because it might hurt their game (except Liz)… especially Austin who is getting pissed because she said I saved your ass, you OWE ME… get your ass to work. The Gremlins may talk to Vanessa and say “We are considering saving you this week because we feel that Shelli, is a bigger threat to our game… but… you have to understand “WE” are saving you your “friends” aren’t… that might work. I have been wanting Jackie to Team up with Vanessa. Perhaps my dream alliance will happen.

    The bad part of keeping Vanessa is she may keep working with the Austwins and turn on them.

    No matter who they keep one of them is going home. So it really is a 50/50 shot.

    1. Yes. Exactly what I said in a previous comment. Except go further. We think it’s awful the way they didn’t have your back the way you had theirs. We understand loyalty. WE are thinking of saving you, not your alliance. Come with us and we all get something out of it. Then take it as it comes. Hey, you never know…

      1. I agree… I would also say Jackie and James as allies is better for Vanessa than Austin & the twins… Austin has been a 300 lb boulder around Vanessa’s neck. There is not a lot of difference between Austin and Meg. Both Austin and Meg are terrible clueless strategist’s but Meg has a better Social game than Austin… clueless as she is, she’s more likable than Austin. She also does not make the same bone head mistakes as Austin does. Austin obsession with keeping Liz has really screwed over Vanessa game. It could work.
        As far as the twins… they are really in it for themselves…. and they do not win as much as they talk. Vanessa really did carry them to this point with Shelli.

        There are several arguments that can be made to save Vanessa over Shelli. I think the thig that might be sticking in the Gremlins minds is how comfortable Shelli is with Johnny Mac and Becky. She isn’t talking to them and that is one thing that bugs the hell out of players this Season is people not talking to them and assigning a boss and ignoring the pions. Meg and Jackie may not have noticed it so much last week because James kept them in the room. If anyone had to talk to James they had to talk to them too. Becky not so much… and saying I have the 4 Votes solid locked in and forgetting to keep them in the loop and spending all her time with Shelli and JMac is bad. Something that Becky and Shelli should think about.
        Now if Becky tells Shelli that they are thinking about keeping Vanessa and JMac, Shelli and Becky freak out… Vanessa may just stay…. with NO deals.

  72. Most of the entertaining HG have been evicted already. If Vanessa leaves we will have Austin pawing Liz, Shelli bullying Julia, Steve, Becky and JMac into a new fake alliance that only serves Shelli’s interests and James/Jackie will be sent to jury. Shelli needs to go. I am hoping that Vanessa will settle down and let things happen for a few weeks. As long as she is in the house, she will be a big target. If Shelli goes, I don’t see the point of gunning for Vanessa in DE. It’s time to split up Austwins. I want to see Liz go in DE. Julia will have to re think her game, Austin will either turn into a useless mess that wants to go to jury with Liz or he will finally start playing the game. There is still too much game to be played for all of the big players to go this early.

  73. First of all, no one is coming back in from jury to play for $500. That tease is for a prize comp for the jury members. They have done this before. 2nd of all, the decision on who to evict is simply personal depending which HG you are a fan of. This year is better than BB16 b/c there is no clear favorite and anyone can be a fan of a variety of HG’s. I like and dislike them all at this point. It’s a fun year so far.

  74. It really is interesting to hear arguments made for both sides. All valid and have merit for sure. I lean towards JJM going against Becky and voting shelli out because I like James style of play. Don’t like hearing his nasty comments at times but he’s very to the point. No bs. And owns what he does but doesn’t shove it in your face. Therefore wanting him in the game means shelli needs to go over Vanessa. Shelli wins hoh and James is on the block immediately. Vanessa wins and Becky and jmac are on. My hope is the goblins ruffle some feathers and keep Vanessa.

  75. Vanessa is entertaining for her paranoia. But what pisses me off is SHE not Becky is the biggest Hypocrite. She’s picked off alot of people for dumb reasons so she can feel justified in doing so. When she claims she saved Austins ass there’s half thruth to that. It was Shelli & Clay that convinced her to keep Austin so if anything Austin owes Shelli. But this is Big Brother people, you dont owe people shit! Its the game! If Austin should have left because he voted for Audrey (which didnt effect anything!) than Vanessa ass should be out for lying to every single one of them. “Her word”; going on how becky broke her word to you. Bish you were going to go back on your word for double eviction HYPO!

  76. .. AFTER the diary room session.

    I’ve a feeling priduction already tipped her off about the goblins’ intention to flip the votes.

    Poor girl cried her eyes out yesterday. They look severely puffy today, but at least she has shades on, and dress very cute today.

    With the Goblins, its a huge risk to bet on what exactly what they ARE gonna do on Thursday.. They are like london weather.. Highly unpredictable!

  77. Shelli is way too calm, and collected, she is by far the better player. Vanessa is all over the board. It may be time to send Shelli out now! Vanessa making deals with everyone has turned everyone off to her. I say Vote out Shelli,

  78. Conspiracy theorists- and bigfoot and aliens are real. Why the hell would production care who goes. James is stupid. Ha ha. He’ll keep shelli to his on detriment and Jackie’s… He he. Sic em shelli!!!!!

  79. Julie didn’t say that someone would have a chance to come back, just that they may still influence the game. There are 6 Thursday evictions left this season, including this week. There are still 9 people to evict. This week 2 people will leave, so there will still be 7 people to evict and only 5 Thursdays and one Sunday before finale. This means that there will have to be another double eviction to fill the jury before the finale. I don’t think anyone can come back because they already have too many evictions and not enough weeks. If the twins hadn’t come into the house, they only would have needed one double eviction, but now they need 2. Even Steve hasn’t thought about this.

  80. Cannot stand Vanessa!
    Absolutely Cannot stand Austin !
    And thing 1 and thing 2 needs to go!!
    Steve and Jmac..f2
    would be awesome :)

  81. Flip flopping is no good…. Vanessa is a bigger threat then Shelli because she lies way more….Shelli has won Comps and even if she does win HOH her sole target is James. There best game move is to keep her. Vanessa will never ever ever work with Meg, James, Jackie, Johnny Mac or Becky!

    1. Totally disagree, Shelli lies all the time!!! And she backstabs her own alliance whenever she gets the chance. Even though Vanessa risked everything to try to get her to stay over Clay, she still is mean to her and lies right to her face. I really hope they get Shelli out because if they don’t, she could win this game.

    2. Oh I bet she’ll work with them, if she stays. Heck, she’ll be “working” with Everyone! That’s what she does and it has worked so far, up until the wrath of Becky fell upon her. I personally think Becky is that chick who everyone HAS to listen to when she’s around, i.e management, but really can’t stand to be around. Like when you and coworkers talk about going out for a few drinks after work and she, the manager who noone likes, hears about it, casually invites herself..etc. etc. Yeah sure, come join us……….NOT!!

  82. JJM’s strategy should be knowing what the DE comps are Thurs. First one should be physical like Jeff’s clown shoe fiasco (find something in a bin of balls etc.) Second, POV will be mental in the cubes and probably guessing without going over. Shelli could win both and V can lose both. For JJM game the odds are in their favor voting out Shelli.

  83. The only option Vanessa had left was the Too CooCoo for Coco Puffs play which gets everyone believing her rambling bug-eyed rants and Biblical Lectures spewing wrath and vengeance are a sure sign she is toone mentally deranged to be a threat. They shut her down, shut her up and the lawyer poker has been had to remind them it’s illegal to execute a half-wit with brain damage.

    Vanessa’s Rasputin routine beats her baseball cap, baggy crotch, suspenders, hipster, weed tokin beanie costume. This chick sports more clichés than the Kartrasians. BUT IT WORKED! THE ALL BELIEVE THE MENTAL HOBO PREACHER act, and n figure she’s a non-factor. Can’t wait til DE.

  84. Sssssssssssteve the Snake is THE WORST, then any of the Jiz hooks, and only after that Vanessa and Smelli.


  85. Why are they so worried about making Becky mad? Her current HOH is over, she can’t backdoor anyone else and she can’t play in the next HOH and even if she could, she wouldn’t go after any of them. They need to vote the way they want and do what’s best for their game.

  86. IF JJM are smart, they won’t run to Vanessa and exclaim they are considering a flip flop vote. The SMART moVe for them would be to go to her and fish……. Hey Vanessa, this isn’t about anything other than you and Shelli at this point and we want to see who would be best for OUR game to keep. Surprise her with a visit and blast her with, What, if anything, can you tell us about Shelli that would make us want to keep you, and be disloyal to Becky? we are NOT talking deals here, we are talking Shelli. Any alliance she may be in? Even if you are in it with her, this is your ONLY hope. You HAVE to come clean, VERY clean, expose all your alliances and flip to us. Otherwise, “Bye Felicia”. At that point Vanessa would sing like a bird, where Shelli would stick to the side she always has and not reveal a single thing.
    That’s how I would go about it…. And it would work!

  87. You know you are too invested and obsessed in Big Brother when you get online 16 times during the month of July to pay bills, only to be sidetracked by, jokers, and feeds……
    Then you go to town to buy groceries, immediately turn your phone to live feeds to listen on the way, and CRAP, the phone has been turned off!!
    You think, shit, damn AT&T didn’t post my payment?? ONLY to get home, log in and find you haven’t paid a single solitary bill!!
    Talk about scrambling!!!!!!
    Yes, this really, honestly happened. To me. Just now.

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