HOH: Xavier
Nominations: Azah and Kyland
Power of Veto: Xavier
Power of Veto Ceremony: ?
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3:10pm Havenot room. Xavier is holding his head and rocking back and forth. Kyland – This is the moment everyone warned me about. That is funny because no one warned anyone about me. You have to be able to save yourself in this game. Two weeks back to back I saved Xavier. I showed him he is not expendable to me, I just hope he can do the same for me. The good thing is if Xavier doesn’t use the veto I may still make it to final two and he didn’t save me a single time in this game… Not directly.. but I have to get there. This is the comp you were ready for… you didn’t have to be the best you just had to win it. Why were you in such a rush. You already won two vetos .. you didn’t have to win this third. Just stay calm! Oh man!! Ky slams his hand down on the bed angrily.
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Bedrooom – Azah and Big D.
Big D – Azah you did really good. You beat out Ky. Azah – you beat out Ky. Big D – thank you. I f**ked up at the end. Azah – yeah I f**ked up at the end. My nerves got to me.
3:30pm – 3:40pm Havenot room. Xavier comes to talk to Ky.
Xavier – are you okay? Ky – I hope so.. Xavier – well I am letting you know .. I am letting everyone know that I am not doing any veto talk today. I just want to hang out today. I wanted to let you know the same. Are you sure you’re good? Ky – no, I am obviously happy you won. This is just the thing everyone kept warning me about. Pushed off as unnecessary or disregarded. On one hand it is tough to not be able to save yourself and on the other hand it is ahhh… Its just tough to be in this spot. Xavier – yeah. I will just let you get back to your thoughts. Xavier hugs him. Ky – I guess I don’t fully know why between you and I .. it would have to be a conversation for tomorrow? Xavier – what do you mean? Ky – you said you wanted to wait to hold veto talks tomorrow. Xavier – ah.. I am just saying that to everybody dawg! We just aren’t talking right now .. we will probably talk later tonight. Ky – yeah, ahh.. I get it. Its just aHhh…. It is just a vulnerable moment… so I think the reassurances help and I feel like I did give you those and that is why to like not get them. …has like all the worry amplifying. Xavier – AHh.. Breath! You will be fine! Ky – yeah its just… Ummmm… yeah for sure I can chat with you later. Its just like .. When you say fine? You meant to three? I appreciate it. Xavier – yeah. That is why I am literally telling everyone we will worry about all this stuff tomorrow. I am not saying that to be insensitive. Ky – I appreciate it. Its just the … Xavier – just breath. Ky – not being able to save yourself is frustrating. I think it is not just the worry of getting to three as much as it is the… just seeing the …like seeing the value in like… its like I feel… And I .. if you want to talk later we can talk later.. I don’t want to disrespect what you want to do. Xavier – you can talk if you want to talk. Ky – thank you, I think for me …like the cookout I am very big .. like we all worked together to get to six. And at six we all knew it was game on… and I think its like .. its like .. for noms on day 66.. to the veto on 69 .. and then the veto decision on 71.. its one thing to show you that I am not going after you and that I am not willing to risk you even at the expense of my relationship with Tiff, Azah, Big D, Chaddha.. like you are not expendable to me. I think that it showed that I trust and value you more than Derek. Xavier – I still haven’t talked to Big D .. and do what needs to be done ..then you can’t be up there. Ky – its not so much if he is willing to do it or not .. its are you willing to risk me at all? Xavier – I get that. The only thing I am going to be able to do is to show you. I can say you’re good, you’re fine. Its not going to show anything until I use the veto and then you will be like OKAY! Ky – okay thank you man. I appreciate you. Congrats! Xavier leaves. Ky – I hate myself right now!
3:55pm Living room. Big D, Azah and Xavier are chatting about the veto on the couch. Big D – we all did our best. Azah – I think that because there was so much at stake .. you put a lot of pressure on .. oh its because I’m on the block too. Big D – we’re basically all on the block.
4:30pm Living room. Azah and Big D.
Big D – We’ve come a long way my friend…. and I think its my time. Azah – what do you mean? Big D – I don’t think X is going to use that veto on me. Azah – it doesn’t work like that. He can either use it or not use it. So if he makes the decision to not use it, you decide. But if he decides to use it he can only use it on me or Ky. Big D – oh so he can’t use it on me? Azah – you’re not on the block! Why would he use it on you? Big D – I thought he would use it on me and I would still give the vote. Azah – no. He can keep his nominations the same. You’re not on the block. He doesn’t need to use it on you. Big D – well I don’t know. I don’t know where his head is at. He said he doesn’t want to talk game but… Azah – well I mean I don’t blame him. Big D – he says he doesn’t want to talk game but he was up there with Ky for a long time. Like he came and told me like he came and told you .. quick and simple like this. Azah – well .. we in danger if you think that. I’m personally not going to talk game with him today and I didn’t want to because there are just so many days for stuff to happen. Big D – I know! I wish I had a f**king letter or pictures of my roommates! Azah – I am not going to call myself a bitter juror for anything you do.. but I will be bitter over.. you bet it! Big D – If you’re sitting at the end you would have me and Brit at least. And I am counting on you and Brit’s vote if I am at the end.
4:52pm Living room. Xavier, Big D and Azah laying on the couches chatting.. The head to the back bedroom.
4:57pm Living room – Kyland.
Ky – I feel so disappointed in myself…
5:10pm All the house guests are napping..
5:40pm Kitchen. Kyland and Azah talking about the veto comp and movies / trailers. Meanwhile up in the HOH room Xavier is chillin..
6:50pm Big D is making dinner. Xavier, Ky and Azah are chatting about random things on the couch.
7:40pm – 8:55pm Kitchen table. Big D and Xavier playing fish. Ky joins them. Big D – what are we going to do for four days? Xavier – we’re doing it.
9:22pm Final four playing cards..
10:08pm Living room – Azah, Big D and Xavier are talking about past events of the season and looking forward to meeting up with everyone outside of the game.
10:50pm Living Room – Azah, Xavier and Big D.
Big D – If Xavier does do that (leave noms the same), I don’t know what I am going to do. If he leaves noms the same and I am the vote, I don’t know what I am going to do. I have to really sit down and find it deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep down inside. Like I know what I should do. We are talking about my best friend in this game who I love so much and then we’re talking about the person that I have literally been dealing with and… Xavier – that does sound different. Azah – that does.. Xavier can you use the veto on me? I can make the choice for him. I vote to evict KYLAND! Big D – it is a little different because I have been emotionally been invested with Kyland and I have literally .. which is going to look so bad .. I have literally had this man do every move that I cannot do because I did not win. He didn’t have to get rid of Tiffany. Well I mean Tiff kind of did it to herself. Xavier – he was going to get rid of Tiff whether you said it or not! Big D – oh my god! Azah – I think the people he targeted, he wanted to target. If you don’t want to go back on a deal, X can make that decision real easy and I can make that decision for you. Xavier – I was going to say do you want to be in her position? Azah – I don’t mind! That way you don’t have to break on your deal. You know I will do the job! Big D – Everyone in the jury think I would not get rid of Ky. Xavier – what she is saying is she is not hesitant. Azah – I ain’t got no deal with that mothertrucker. I ain’t got nothing! Xavier – if it is really going to eat you (Big D) up .. (Xavier points to Azah).
11:30pm – 12am Backyard. Azah and Xavier in the hot tub. They talk about past events of the sesaon.
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My, how the tables have turned.
I’m happy. Great job X.
Now X has to get the slug to vote out ky
He has to put Big D on the block
Will Xavier use it on Kyland?
Hahahaha
No way! He’ll make Big D make that decision.
X will keep telling BigD to vote Ky out. He already started nudging him that way on Friday’s show.
And it’s best for BigD too. He’ll get to F2 because X doesn’t want to sit next to a woman in F2. And BigD can say he made a big move, voting Ky out, since BigD is the only vote. And BigD will get $75,000. Maybe he’ll even get Azah and Brit’s votes so he won’t be completely embarrassed.
You bring up a great point — I was only looking at X forcing Big D to get the blood on his hands so Ky would still vote for X — BUT to your point it would give Big D a big resume move. Will X consider that? If yes then it’s better for him to have Azah take out Ky — remove the resume move & have no uncertainty about the eviction.
OR maybe he gets Big D to do it & then brings Azah to F2 instead although he did sure seem committed to DF (mind you his F2 has shifted 3 times in 3 episodes so who knows).
And I see your point here, but if people only knew how Big D groveled and begged to NOT have to do it (to keep his hands clean), because he didn’t want to e-vote his old buddy Ky, would they really see it as a “big resume” move? If you’re such a chicken shit, you don’t want to make a big move when the opportunity presents itself, is it really a big move? I think maybe my own personal opinion of the Couch might be driving that question a little bit, but damn, how dumb can you be when you’re in a vulnerable position like he is (kinda sorta) and not just say “You bet your ass I’ll vote him out!”?
It appears both Azah and X would take Big D to final 2, and it’s pretty clear Ky would not (taking X). I just don’t see why this numb nut isn’t jumping at the chance to get rid of him and improve his chances of at least getting the $75k! I guess I shouldn’t be surprised though when you consider he STILL doesn’t understand the rules of the game, and how the Veto works, even after being there all of this time! Yeah it’s true it’s like all three of them are on the block, but since the HOH won the Veto, if he wants either Ky or Azah gone (which he appears to want Ky gone), he just doesn’t use it, leaves noms the same and Couch votes out Ky.
But since Couch is reluctant, X should go ahead and take down Azah and let her do the deed. This is actually some of the best game talk I’ve heard all season from her! lol Good for her for stepping up and saying the right thing in front of both Couch and X, and saying it with damn conviction!
mmmm… NO
no he isn’t using it
If I was him and I wanted Ky out for sure, I’d use it on Azah. He knows she’ll vote Ky out, and he’s not sure the Couch will.
i’m thinking so, to add to his resume the two best players went to the F3 and he (X) wins it all, of course he would have to win in the end which i think X can do.
Welp! Kyland will not be going to the F2. X will either leave the noms the same or take Azah down and let her vote KY out. I just don’t see how X would want KY in the F2 with him even though they had “The Gentleman’s” Alliance. Our F2 could really be Azah and DF with Azah winning the game! I will not be surprised, even though I don’t like it. My 2 Favs are already in jury
Exactly!
Yep, an Azah/Couch F2 is unlikely, but it’s possible. Couch wouldn’t bring Azah because he dislikes females, plus .. who am I kidding?… he’s not winning anything to be able to make that decision. But if Azah somehow beats X in the two-part HOH, then she’d definitely bring Couch. And she’d win. I can see it now. Couch will be lamenting for months how “all those girls” in the jury voted for the female.
I would hope she bring Couch, but she is so in love with Xavier, he heart might overrule her head
Oh geez, that would be the most embarrassing move in BB history … bring a guy to F2 when you know he’ll win the $750k and hope it will make him like you. That’s such an Azah move!
I seriously hope it doesn’t resort to that
It’s Xavier and Azah go to finally two. Asha will win. So Xavier kicked himself in the butt.
Couch is definitely a misogynist. He’d be lucky if Anybody brings him to the end. If X wins the Final HOH, I hope that he brings Azah, but he just might bring The Couch
Current sympathy level for Ky’s predicament: zero.
If only there had been a way that Ky could have avoided being in danger by not taking the biggest threat in the game to final four….
oh. There was. He chose the wrong final 3 deal.
Everyone brings up how Tiff and Hannah would have cut him. They had a combined four wins in comps… less than Ky or X currently have singularly. So they’d have to win in order to get the chance to cut him. Likelihood astronomically lower.
He was the architect of this final four, so now he can watch as the faulty support beams and not to code cement he chose come crashing around his ears.
If he stays he stays, if he goes he goes. He chose his path.
Okay. the crying in the have not room. I laughed. so what. I don’t LIKE him. He’s not dying, he’s playing a reality show.
Had two chances to knock x out… but that would have most likely meant sitting next to a woman in final two. And if his own comments have any merit, the women ‘weren’t stong enough’ and ‘didn’t deserve to be there.’ This is why i say he’s a chauvinist. He made those comments not just about, but to women in the game. Oh well.
As I said… he stays, he stays. He goes, he goes.
Plus tried to control them, gaslight them, ignore their stress the night prior to eviction to get them to work jury for him AND tried to get “extra favors” before they left.
Yup! Karma *& payback is a beyatch! Especially for his extra creepy manipulating of the females and boring EVERYONE with his rambling narcissistic punishingly boring and of time incomprehensible monologues and diatribes.
TL:DR SHUT UP KY!~ Waaaa waaaaa!
He goes. Period. And I love it! Schadenfreude.
Yeah, Ky cemented his fate with his F6 HOH. He could have gotten X out if he had nominated X and either piece of furniture. Hannah and Tiff would have gladly voted X out, and then removed each of the pieces of furniture because they love the game way too much to take either of those free riders to F3. That’s the key difference. HGs who truly love the game will cut the furniture loose at the end. But X doesn’t truly love the game, so he’ll cut Ky and hand 2nd place to the overstuffed sofa to get the easy win.
Not a chance, I genuinely mean it in a respectful way to disagree with you.
Those girls were always going to take Kyland out and go with Azah to final 3.
And in that scenario it’s not inconceivable to think that Derek F could’ve survived to at least final four because he’s so easy to beat and those girls would maybe want to drag him along because they know they can win against Derek F.
To top it all off those girls were never going to take Kyland to Final 2!
Both Tiffany and Hannah had to go.
Ky has 5 comp wins. Tiff had 2. Hannah had 2. In order to get to knock Ky out, they had to beat Ky in how many comps consecutively in order to carry out this master plan?
X has 5 comp wins. How much greater are his chances of being a threat to Ky’s game than either Tiff or Hannah?
And he’s planning to get rid of Ky anyway, and was from week 5 until Tiff’s second HOH in week9.
X was always a bigger threat than Tiff or Hannah or even Hannah AND Tiff together.
Fair point that Tiff/Hannah would have taken Azah over Ky to F3. However, they would have had to win the HOH/veto comps to cut Ky, and I’m not sure they could have done that. For that reason alone, Ky would have been better off teaming with them over X.
I’m half with you – half not. Hannah would’ve cut him in favor of bringing Azah but Tiff would’ve been fine going to F3 with Ky/Hannah b/c BOTH would’ve taken her to F2.
The ladies each had reasons for cutting the goats right after X. Both wanted Big D out to sever Ky ties & Tiff also would’ve wanted Azah gone at F4 to remove temptation for Hannah to take to F2.
And as many noted Ky would’ve had a far easier time beating Tiff/Han than he did X.
Yup
For $750,000 I’d bring whoever I was sure I could beat. I wouldn’t care if a potted plant got 2nd place.
Admittedly that strategy didn’t work out for Paul A, but he was an extreme jerk, even when unnecessary.
Well, Ky kept saying he wants to sit next to the best on finale night.
If he leaves this week, I wonder who he asks to sit next to in jury.
Hahaha
PREACH lol
I have no sympathy for KY either. He didn’t have to take X down because X was Never in danger of being evicted when he was on the block
The most recent one at F-5, when X was sitting next to Hannah was particularly unnecessary. I understand he was trying to cement his relationship with X, but he ended up showing all of his cards to everybody else, pissing off not only Azah but also Big D in the process, and maybe further alienating jury members when they find out about it.
Sometimes you have to show a little finesse in the game. I don’t think Ky understands the meaning of that word.
Exactly! I agree
Congratulations Kyland!!
My heart goes out to Ky I have a feeling it’ll be big D who is going to make the deciding vote and I hope he sticks with the guys
How will you feel if the Couch “toes the line” and does what X tells him to do? If X chooses him to vote and he doesn’t, he may be risking $75k because why? He doesn’t want to go to Final 3 with two people who both would choose him to go to Final 2 if they both win the Final HOH?
The Couch is a moron if he doesn’t vote Ky out – plain and simple.
Okay. Chenbot.
Anyone been reading Chenbot interviews about this season?
cocks head to the side.
The winner of big brother will be determined by their devotion to God and Jesus Christ as their personal savior.
I’m happy for Chen Moonves that she finds light, strength and hope in her religious awakening.
That said. Stop that.
The almighty is not tipping the scales for anyone on a reality show.
Stop that.
Remember when I mentioned my Hannah-stans experience?
Death threats from her little asshole fans? For saying she needed to make some moves and not just slip under the radar stuff if she wants to win?
Currently, Azah’s socials have been switched to private because Hannah stans are issuing death threats against her… and her family.
Fuck Hannah’s twitter stans, and I said that shit.
So…Trolls, bots, and idiots are making extremely bad & inappropriate remarks regarding Azah’s foolish move. Not surprising
Every season one of the houseguests has the ones.
You know, the little psychopaths.
This year it’s Hannah.
I didn’t think what I’d said in week three was that offensive.
I’m still getting crap. almost 2 months later.
OMgosh no! Can we have a link to that story about the Hannah Twitter stans?
Crazy – death threats about a reality show, really? Bless their hearts!
Not a story to link to…
I know the Hannah stans methods from first hand experience.
I looked at Azah’s page to see what was happening when i read that Azah won HOH on Thursday, and it got ugly real quick. By the time the episode was over, uglier. Then whoever is running her socials went to private. 1+1
No link. personal observation.
I saw the most recent interview. Wow. So, Ky has been showing endless devotion to X, and now he’s getting 4th place. Apparently, he should have chosen to show his devotion to Jesus instead, because according to Julie Chen-Moonves, that would have won him the game.
BTW, I also saw Couch’s social media person adding ammunition to their list of reasons he should win the game. Beyond running out of cigarettes on Week 3 and cleaning the house multiple times, they have added that he figured out X is an attorney. LMAO! Couch figured out X is lying about his job, so he should win 2nd place. Damn! If it’s that easy, go ahead and cast me on Survivor.
I look at it this way, when X was on the block, in fact whenever any Cookout Member was on the block, they were basically never in danger of being evicted until the F6 so KY saying he took X off the Block in my opinion, means nothing because X was not going to be evicted
Doesn’t count if he doesn’t tell anyone else in the house. It’s like saying Cody would have deserved to win over Derrick if Cody found out that he was a cop (he didn’t)Cody was as much a lapdog (and a whiny one at that) as DF is with X
Huge difference between those two duos — at least Cody won comps (3 HOH 4 if you count final HOH as 2 & 3 POV), knew when to keep his mouth shut & had a good social game (the ladies loved him) but he should’ve taken Victoria if he wanted 1st place (friend or not). Derrick was also far more involved in manipulating & influencing the game right out of the gate. X didn’t do that until F6 (and not for solid game reasons). Plus Derrick NEVER hit the block. The Hit Men were a much more of true partnership whereas X/Big D are more like Derrick/Victoria relationship.
Tbh – I didn’t enjoy BB16 — couldn’t stand Frankie, thought Caleb’s obsession with Amber was super creepy, & the whole Christian/Cody thing was awkward as was her hate for Nic F (maybe she saw the true Nic F before the rest of us b/c I liked NF in that season – 2nd season not at all). The cast I liked either left super early (Joey/Brittany) or in succession Hayden, Zach (b/c he was funny af) & Donny who was such a nice man (it was annoying how much Derrick didn’t like him for no apparent reason).
For the record, Cody was never on the block. He used whining to get out of it all the time
X is gonna win, cause he is devoted to GETTING THAT MONEY!
Oh the home wrecker found religion? And the need to preach it to others?
If I remember correctly, her gifts to the crew last season were books of psalms and a coffee cup or some such. They used to get bonus checks.
Geez, with her husband’s $100 million payout to leave CBS after he sexually harassed countless women, you’d think Julie Chen would at least put a gift card with the coffee cup. Just sad.
Wasn’t his payout at least partial blocked by the courts?
I thought 75m was blocked.
Isn’t this same almighty God slash personal savior the very one who decided that no black people deserved to win the other 22 seasons of BB? If that is the case, I wonder what happened. Did he have a heel turn like Hulk Hogan joining the New World Order? Or was he a heel all along and now he’s making the babyface turn and becoming a good guy? Oh what a tangled web we weave.
I thought Les’ religion was Judaism. Jesus Christ is Christianity. Is Julie a Messianic Jew?
And actually, the Almighty does tip the scales for someone if there is an almighty purpose for it.
Yeah, The divine is watching CBS, and thinks a reality show has an almighty purpose when the rest of the world looks like….
no.
And yet you sent out the 2 ladies who had a final 3 with you, so you deserve this, knucklehead!
Yes, a great end to a great season is still possible. Go Azah! Leave the noms as they are so Big D has to choose between a player who’s dissed him and his best friend in the house. Then X has to choose between Big D and Azah. What a joke of a season. I loved it and wanted the 6 to meet their mission, but Tiffany should have been in the final 2, so I’m rooting for Azah. 😉
Tiffany is good, very good… but X has outplayed everyone this season, kudos to him.
X has outplayed all of them. He had the game mapped out the day he walked in. He knew which comps to throw and win. He deserves the win.
Agreed
I just wish he was more likeable. He showed a very salty, mean, angry, and weird side in the last weeks.
Same here. The Cookout made history, and then it all went downhill from there. It’s too bad there isn’t a better ending for this historic season.
I appreciate everyone’s opinion & do believe X played a great game of laying low with circumstantial protection (Cookout, Kings & Royal Flush).
What I’m wondering is how he impacted the game prior to F6. How did he influence nominations? How did he manipulate the HOH’s to put up who he wanted? When did he get someone to switch who they were going to vote for? If the answer to that question always comes up empty or returns to either Tiffany or Hannah or Kyland then how was did he outplay everyone?
I’m honestly curious (aka – I know my Tiff favoristism may cloud my thinking). For example – I know Tiff was the one who suggested & brought DX into the RF b/c she knew he wanted to target X (thereby protecting him). I know she talked to Chris when he was HOH & X couldn’t stop Hannah from going up & convinced him Whitney was a bigger threat & that was followed by her suggesting to Hannah that they (DX/her) form some sort of alliance/understanding with Ally/Chris. When he suggested Ky had to go next it was Tiff not X that told him there was a bigger threat in front of him.
I know when DX was HOH she was the first in his ear pulling out the chess board to run through scenarios subtly driving him toward SB & if a big target was necessary Chris instead of X. I know Claire repeatedly brought up getting X out but Tiff consistently backed her off that task & when she was secret HOH she stuck with Ky/SB nominations instead of replacing SB with DF. Meanwhile X knew for a fact Kyland was Ally’s main target & while he tried to point her at Claire he never really got her off a pecking order of Ky, Tiff or Big D. Ally appeased him in conversation but it was Hannah who would’ve driven her HOH had she won.
His one pre F6 overt gesture was wanting to keep Christian — and WHO did he send to try to make it happen? —- Tiffany! In fact, if he had of got his hands dirty that could’ve easily happened — all he had to do was go ask Britini to play chess & then told her to go speak to Tiff. INSTEAD he sent Chris to get her & even then didn’t have the foresight to say “don’t say it’s to talk to Tiff if she’s with Azah or Big D just say you want to play chess.
I want to buy into X being this incredible player but I can’t recall a single thing he did that compares to the above until they reached F6 when X got Ky to go after Tiff simply b/c she didn’t do what he wanted. We also got confirmation in his post HOH chat with Big D that Ally was indeed his #2 (which b/c he was talking to Big D meant she really was his F2). So that means he had no issues fracturing the CO but even though Tiff took out Claire on her HOH b/c she had the audacity to want to keep Claire 30 mins longer than Ally she was “selfish/disloyal and had to go”.
When Tiff discussed X she said he’s played an amazing game but when X discusses Tiff she did NOTHING to help them.
I think he benefited by circumstance & played a WISE game positioning himself with two goats & benefited from a guy dying to have a bromance (Ky) who he’ll have no issue backstabbing (nor should he it’s BB & trusting an alliance made a week ago is just dumb gameplay by Ky), but again I’m looking for the specifics of his “outplay”.
This isn’t shade I’m genuinely curious.
As am I?
100 % agree with all of the above
Spot on!
I think the whole season has been filled with average game play at best. Until F-6, the biggest move IMO was when SB back doored DX, but when you say that, people point out she went home the very next week. Well of course she did because she wasn’t a member of the Cookout, but that doesn’t mean taking out a big player and competitor still wasn’t a big move. But does she get credit for that, or does Kyland who obviously influenced her into making that move? Without his influence, she goes in an entirely different direction, and we all know that.
The whole “team” concept, and the way the players were allocated to them also played a huge role in how the game was played this season. As you’ve pointed out, that really provided an extra layer of protection for X, and I think also helped to keep the Cookout unknown for the entire game, as players were thinking about team connections and other known and suspected alliances.
As far as game strategy goes, there’s no doubt in my mind that Tiffany was the person who came up with most of it that got the CO to the F-6. BUT, I do think X deserves some credit for arbitrating all of the internal squabbles that occurred within the group, which isn’t necessarily a game strategy thing, but it was important in keeping them together and focused in accomplishing their mission, and THAT may be why he gets more credit than he is due by some people. That was more important to them than just normal regular game playing, so since he focused more on that part, maybe that’s why he’s thought of in that manner.
So it just depends on how you look at “game”, and what part of the game is really important to you in evaluating things. I think I look at it more from a “pure” game point of view like you do, but others may look at his contributions to the Cookout and see them in a different light as far as importance go. This is just a theory really, but it’s all I’ve got.
yes .. x was protected by the co. playing with dx and claire would only get him to hurt the jury members in prosses. he played more with his own real alliance , the co . and made sure the alliance work and they all trust each other to move on. he also had allysa and even SB so he didnt need more fake deals to have.
thats not fair saying that he couldnt control alysa cause he did shift hers and chris target to whitney ( so what if hannah was the pawn? the main thing was to keep her ) , when alysa won the veto she didnt use it .and when she won the rullete she saved BIG D . so she didnt hurt the co game. she would of even voted SB against big d…. he didnt push her not to nom co members cause she wasnt hoh!
when she had power – she did what he wanted her to do. same with her votes.
for afecting noms… he did talked with ky about bd britini than DX. the two who he had no alliance with before Sb or alysa. when dx was OTB with claire; tiff wanted to save dx… and x was the one to convice azah to keep claire. azah wasnt sure what to do and felt closer to dx.
at f6 the real game began . inside the co .. tiff failed and it was x time to gain from his realionship he build inside the co
Karma caught up to Tiff. You reap what you sow.
Well now karma is about to bite Ky on the but!
We could say the same about Kyland!
Karma for what? Being loyal to the Cookout? If you mean karma for backstabbing her best friend in the game, I can see that, but somehow I don’t think that’s the angle you’re going for.
But if it is, they all deserve a good dose of karma for that, except for possibly the Couch. He never had any friends in the game.
Rooting for the person that just made the biggest $750,000 blunder in BB History, seriously? Hahahaha
I know this is sort of off topic but I loved CSI Las Vegas HOH. It was Awesome! Too bad SB didn’t get to play it.
X is winning this game. He needs to compete with KY in the final 3. Make it bit of a competition. Also KY has saved X quite a few times.
This is Big Brother, getting stabbed in the back is a big part of it.
Hope to see X and KY in final 2
It’s not happening. X is in it to win it.
Listening to Big D and Azah talking about how much they did and why they deserve to go to finals is literally turning my stomach. OMG. Big D saying he and X played a similar game! Oh lordy, the delusions! This man is not well. Azah saying she stayed true to her deals. WHO CARES! This is not Big Mother it’s BIG BROTHER. Honesty NOT required! Big D and Azah should call themselves The Horizontals. So sick of watching these sloths. What a pitiful final. We all knew X was going to win but what a bore watching him get there. Sorry Kyland. Yes, this is what everyone was warning you about! You are a tool and a fool. Thanks for nuthin’!
The only thing more offensive than Couch & Azah being in the F3 is Couch & Azah stating that they deserve to be in the F3.
Hey, that’s exactly what I called them earlier in the season! I totally agree on that one!
So sick of that nasty toxic chat room. I’ve muted so many nasty nellies and still so many continue to show up that I have to remove myself or click the flashback to hide the comments. Those devilish people are so mean and disrespectful. BB should get rid of it altogether or work better to eliminate that toxicity. The way Azah is badly talked about as well as the other females in the game makes my skin crawl. I would never talk about another female or any male that way even if I’m not a fan of their gameplay. I know people have their faves and feel some type of way when they don’t make it, but these childish, demeaning, and often racists comments are disgusting and unnecessary. It’s a freaking game that they’re not even participating in and they become angry and lash out. Anyways, now I’m hoping X, Azah, and Big D are the final 3.
For the first time in twenty three seasons the person I picked from day 2 is this close to winning the game. X fooled all these idiots without getting blood on his hands and being on the block lord knows how many times! Keep complaining that he’s prods golden boy plus them knowing that he was the biggest threat in the game. BB 23 is my favorite season thus far. Take the $750,000 X well deserved. Bye bye haters! Keep b***ching like you always do. Hahahaha
X, stick to your gentleman deal. KY will get just 2nd but it will help him help his family. Out of the 4 X and KY ate deserving to be in final 2. Azah and DF need to be to jurors and cast a vote.
The question is will he get his hands dirty and replace Kyland? The answer to that unfortunately is no
I want Azah to win…keep $250,000 and split the rest with that ‘cookout”.
At this point I want Azah to win just because all three guys are such jerks. But I have no respect for X if he does not take Ky down after Ky took him down twice.
For $750,000 in a game? I’d leave him up there in a heart beat and tell either the Couch or Azah to vote his azz to jury! I like money more than I like Ky I guess.
No hard feelings. It’s only a game.
What is up with Kyland? Is he having a medication issue, a mental heath crisis? Panic attacks?
Was wondering about that. I’m glad he lost but I was concern about his health.
Reality just slapped him in the face. Hard.
Yeah, I can’t watch him on the feeds. It’s disturbing. Although I have no sympathy for his game ending (it’s his own fault for his blind trust in X), I do have concern for him as a human being. He is not well and he needs help.
Week one Ky spoke about how hard it was to deal with the game because his medication dosage allowed for him to maintain concentration for regular business hours.
He mentioned wanting to speak to production and medical about altering his scrip.
They obviously altered it during the week of his second HOH. He didn’t sleep, didn’t shower, and was on the verge of mania multiple times. His dosage was clearly increased to level insustainable long term in order to fulfill the extra duties and cam time concentration required of an HOH.
The following week, he was in the have not room. In the past, sequestering HOH’s after their dosages have been altered for observation has been the norm. 17 with vanessa,18’s dullard…Cooor-eeey (had to say it in nicf to remember his name), 20’s Sam. 21’s Jackhole. There’s pattern of post HOH observation. I believe that the increased amount they are tasked with in the game for HOH and special evictions has medical up their dosage short term. Then they are, under duty of care, obligated to observe them while they are reduced back to normal levels in case of psych crash and depressive bouts rebounding from the near mania brought on by the increase. This has been spoken of on feeds a couple times in previous years. For the most part, house guests complaining about the dosage decrease and it’s effects.
So, yeah. I’m pretty sure Ky’s having a medication issue as his body and brain adjust to going back to standard dosage.
A lot of people are asking about what is going on with Kyland. He’s always on camera so at least production knows he is safe, but it wouldn’t hurt if production called a doctor to evaluate him.
Idc how loyal Tiffany says she was going to be to Ky, her nor Hannah were taking him to F2. It is what it is tbh. Ky trusted X to honor their final 3 with DF. Xavier thinks it will be an easy win taking DF or Azah, but Hannah already said she might vote bitterly if anyone does that. She thinks that is a weak move on their part and its a possibility that she won’t respect that game move. If Kyland can work on DF some more, there is a VERY SLIM possibility that he could make it to F2. At this point, I don’t know if DF is more committed to the Holy BB alliance or to his F2 with Azah.
If X doubts for one second that Big D won’t evict Ky then he’ll replace Azah so she can do it. Occasionally Big D had gotten mad/exchanged words with Ky but NEVER with or about X so it’s more likely he does as he’s told.
X wants Big D to evict Ky to have no blood on his hands & to ensure Ky votes for him instead of Big D —- BUT now that DF talked way too much before POV was played he knows Ky was tipped off. That means X has no choice but to take Ky out b/c the absolute certainty Ky would take him to F2 is no longer a given. One oddity is he did imply to Ky he planned on using POV which could just be gaslighting or he’s gonna remove Azah. Of course, barring TPTB demanding he keep Ky.
That’s not very likely though b/c if production wanted to ensure Ky got to F3 they would’ve just “gifted” him the HOH since it was timed. Not like they don’t do it all the time. The most obvious being BB Comics — Azah said she finished in under 9 mins & Ky said he thought he was at 15 mins or longer. Big D labored making several trips to find the differences whereas Hannah made the initial few trips to get the order & on her way back to check differences decided to hit the buzzer just in case and was right. So, there’s no way she was slower than Big D.
Tiffs round was also uber suspect with 9 wrong on initial buzz followed by one slow pass & her rapid fire switching posters – that buzz showed ONE wrong Next they show her standing with Hannah picture (the one wrong) so logically she would’ve changed that but they stop her segment there.
On feeds she tells Hannah I thought I finished in 7 mins but yours was the only one I was uncertain about. Sooooooooo how does it take 33 minutes for her to switch one picture? The obvious answer is it doesn’t. The logical explanation is Tiff made the change but TPTB buzzed no so she went back through to check every comic & TPTB kept buzzing b/c they couldn’t very well suddenly ring she was right or they’d be dealing with a raging Tiff. At least that’s my take.
So, it definitely seems like Ky is going — unless we get some major feed outage with X storming around shortly afterward it’s a done deal. On the bright side, this will make for a majorly dramatic jury round table as Ky will join them AT the event. The reaction from Tiff, Hannah & SB alone will make for a good segment!
As for Hannah – she’ll be annoyed couch got to F2 — but her super fan side will be more intent on crowning a player fitting of representing the CO so she’ll vote X. Some think Big D will get Brit/Azah but based pm Brit raving about X (& Tiff/Claire in her ear) I think Brit votes X. Similarly, I envision X outing secrets to Azah about DF wanting her out at F4 instead of Ky (& willing to cut her at F6 or F5). That’ll be reinforced by jury (Tiff/Claire/DX) during commercial break & before the vote. But we’re talking Azah here who marches to her own drum so it’ll prob be an 8-1 vote with outside chance of being a 9-0 sweep.
Can’t believe how friggin dumb Derek is. He wants X to use the veto on him, even tho he’s not on the block, and thinks he still votes. OMG, Azah had to explain it to him. That guy needs to go! He doesn’t deserve final 3.
Has he ever watched a season? Has he even paid attention to this season’s veto ceremonies? How is it the final veto, and he still doesn’t know how it works?
It happens Every year.
Every season there’s the superfan… that doens’t understand a double, a triple, or final 4 eviction or how the final hoh works.
Every year.
Yup — he also didn’t know how Final HOH worked. X was laying the groundwork to evict Ky this week pointed out how much easier it would be for him to beat her in Part 1 endurance & Big D in Part 2 which is *more mental. Big D said but you can also beat Ky & X replied he’s beat me three times. Big D said – but were you trying? I mean – it’s so crazy this guy is still in the house expecting to be dragged along & simultaneously spout his game prowess.
So, X reiterated he (Big D) would have an easier time against Azah in Part 2 — to which DF said but you can beat her. X was a little stunned & said – well no b/c I won’t be playing — & DF said we ALL play now. LOL — seriously Big D had no clue the winner of Part 1 goes directly to Part 3. How does he claim to be a BB fan stating he’s watched BB a ton & NOT KNOW that fact?
I mean wtf is he still doing in the house? As much as Ky drives me crazy & made dumb game arrogant based decisions I’d much rather TPTB force X to keep him b/c neither Big D or Azah deserves to be a F2 chair or collect $75k. It’s blasphemy!
*Side note: I’m assuming he doesn’t want to scare Big D with facts — that it’ll be both physical & mental & often involves climbing b/c then Big D will ask him to throw Part 1 to him). & tell him it’ll be physical AND mental
WHAT! Seriously wait, ….What!!!
Huh. I think you’ll have the same appropriate response as I did to this.
I think Ky was trying to counsel the only woman in the house about what she should do in the event of having menstrual cramps. As a figure of authority on the subject.
my response. I just got up and left the room.
OMFG – I can’t
well, then the hell with it. Lets make bigger History and root for Couch to win! Will be bigger than Josh win.
On Rob Has a Podcast they have a show called Stock Watch (to be fair I haven’t seen it I think it’s only for the Patron fans) anyway they rank the hamsters each week based on how they played & they use examples.
For “1” it’s Victoria from BB16 (the Derrick/Cody season).
But they’re considering replacing her with Big D although someone suggested they create a new rating of 0.5 especially for Big D based on his horizontal season combined with his delusions of grandeur, misogyny & absolute lack of game knowledge.
You are in big trouble when Azah has to explain something to you……
I’ll say this, I’d rather Kyland stay than Couch because couch had done nothing to help himself in this game. But Kyland is something else. His explanation last night to couch about being able to compartmentalize situations, to which couch ask what that meant. He explained a scenario in which he cheated on a girlfriend and she broke up with him. Now mind you, he said she admitted he was a great boyfriend and he did everything to fulfill her needs and made her happy (even her friends said he was the greatest boyfriend) to which he responded that he didn’t understand why his cheating was a reason to break up, since he was such a great boyfriend. In his thinking the 2 things had nothing to do with each other. He said he needed therapy to explain that to him. Wow!
When tiffany got rid of claire she screwed her chances of winning. The women had one chance at winning-stick together and knock out Kyland and Xavier. Now they are all toast.
But it was all for the causeeeeeee.
X is smart. His gameplay has been awesome. For him to secure his game he needs Ky in jury. I don’t have an opinion on who he takes F2 though probably better chance against Couch. X BB23 Winner.
Assessment by comparison in the most simple terms.
Behavior while on the block.
X on the block was able to tell the veto holder to remove him when he was a nominee and didn’t feel like being on the block anymore, multiple times. From the block, he was able to issue orders, that were followed.
Ky on the block? Week one he had multiple cookout members working Dx to get him to use the veto, and then swooped in to get the promise to use it. After that? Every time he was on the block he wanted off the block, but didn’t have to power or charisma to make it happen.
Who had the better game? X was in control of the voters that had his fate in their hands from the block. Ky? Nope.
X wins.
X had control of the house while being locked in the have not room for 24 hours. blink blink.
X… wins.
If X cuts Ky to take Couch or Azah to final 2, It’s a parallel to John cutting Neda to take Sabrina to the final 2.
Everyone used that to say how John was a master because he know he could beat Sabrina. (little secret… I actually preferred Sabrina to either John or Neda. She was a horrible beast of a human, but she WAS the feeds of that season).
If X cuts Ky at Final 4 and takes Azah and Big D to Final 3, I honestly believe the jury would not respect that move. Hannah has a point about it being majorly disrespectful to the game itself and I could honestly see her being able to convince others jurors of that too.
Agree with Hannah. Getting to the Final 3 should be on the merits. It would be disrespectful to the game if X cuts Ky, and chooses to take Azah and DF to Final 3.
The jury consists of how many superfans? One of them has a dedicated side twitter just for commenting on feeds?
They are NOT going to be saying let the face that represents our season be furniture.
And Hannah? If she’s going to get all preachy and holier than thou… she can sit waaaay over there. She had NO problem with saying ‘lets not tell the jury about the cookout,’ and ‘let’s make sure we spin the narrative so we don’t look bad,’ and ‘don’t tell the last ones about cookout, let them think they have a chance.’
For someone that wants to throw stones, Hannah lives in a pretty little glass house of hypocrisy.
I absolutely agree. Azah and Derek F do not deserve $75,000. They didn’t do shit the whole season. I hope production somehow encourages X to us the veto on Ky. They are the ones who deserve to sit in the final two seats. If Ky is evicted this week, I hope whoever X sits against in the final two seats wins.
X is not bringing Kyland AND X is going home as the first black winner of US BB. (He’s not bringing Azah either.)
I agree, even though neither Azah or Big D deserve the money.
Y’all crack me up! What, are they supposed to just stop playing when they get to F-4? Maybe have an “America’s Vote” to decide who the two best players are to ensure nobody gets screwed, and that the two “best” players get to the final two seats?
No. They’re still playing, and the players still decide, with all the damn deception, corruption and backstabbing that goes with it! Whoever wins the Veto, or in this case since X won and he’s HOH, he gets to pick who votes, and that person decides who goes to jury, and that decision may be based on a deal, friendship, what’s best for their game, or complete idiocy, but it’s THEIR choice.
Ky will look like a complete fool if X leaves him OTB after he took X down two times, in the past week.
well but that would be so stupid for them to be the ones to crown big D / azah.
this would be more deserving?? and hannah wanted to take azah to 3 herself.. and to take ky out at 5
Couch must not know anything about the game of Big Brother. He’s worried that X won’t use the veto on him. Is he delusional? At least Azah tried to explain it to him. Again, WHY IS HE THERE?
OMG……am I the only one who wants to poke my eyes out??! Ky is sooooooo hard to follow!
Xavier has already won the game no matter who he in the Final 2 with.
BUT there is no way that The Couch and Azah are not taking each other to the Final 2 and Kyland is taking him to the Final 2 because he is so dumb… So why would he not keep Kyland and Couch since it ensures he wins the game?
Azah has proven she can beat him head to head so she really is his biggest threat at the final HOH since she will cut him. She has played an honest game (not something I personally like or feel should win but maybe some favor that) so even if he takes her to Final 2 she probably has the best chance to get more votes than Kyland. Kyland seems like he is hated by the jury and at this point I think they have won the same amount of competitions so Xavier is just a more likable easier to talk to Kyland.
I just personally have a rule that if someone does something for you if you can you repay the favor. Kyland saved Xavier so Xavier should save Kyland. Doing that doesn’t change the fact Xavier will win so it is a win/win. If he wants to cut Kyland he still could after repaying the favor at Final 3 should he win HOH.
BB is a game. If you ever get on the show and expect others to play by your personal rule, you will get stabbed in the back and lose. Like Ky is about to.
I agree that X will probably win against Ky. But he wants to make sure he wins, by bringing someone completely unworthy of winning to F2. It’s $750,000,.
The thing that makes the most sense about your post is that Ky would take X to the Final 2. That argument has some merit in my opinion, as does the one that Azah will most likely take Big D, but she would have to win 2 out of 3 of the final HOH comps in order to do that, and the likelihood of that happening is slim and none. Just because she “won” a comp he was most likely throwing doesn’t mean she can or will beat him when the chips are down.
As for the assurance that X beats Ky in a final 2 showdown, nothing is certain in Big Brother – just ask Paul. I THINK X would win, but it’s far more likely he beats either the Couch or Azah than Ky, so it only makes sense that he gets rid of the biggest competitor if he can do it. Getting either Big D or Azah to vote him out is an even better thing for him, as he can act like he didn’t know it was going to happen, although that dog may not hunt at this point.
What are the odds Xavier’s GBM tells Kyland he doesn’t have to feel foolish, embarrassed or stupid for not seeing things he couldn’t possibly know?
Yeah – I know it’s shade — but he said that to people (DX/SB) & put it in Ally’s GBM
I still fear that we’re going to see five days of Ky trying to showmance the Couch so that he can stockholm him because they do the veto at the eviction ceremony. I’m not prepared to turn on feeds and see Ky and Couch whispering sweet nothing on a jetski. Not because one is gay and the other is pan… but because one is a horse’s ass and the other is a couch… and that’s too much bates motel interior design for my liking.
That would be great. But Ky should have seen this coming. And he should feel foolish, embarrassed and stupid.
Loose threads in my thought process.
They don’t really add to the tapestry of what I see as the successes and the failures of the season, So I don’t really think about them that much. Okay. I do. Too much. WhatEVer.
They’re still there, and I can’t sleep.
Oh yeah. happy wedding to thatkevinmartin and…. what was that bobblehead’s name? Pilar. Happy wedding day to kevin and pilar. Sorry for calling her bobblehead… she’s a lovely girl. But five minutes of her on feeds made me wonder if she even had the mental capacity of a two year old. Sweet lovely girl.
My guess is: X is going to replace Ky with BIG D and have Ky chose who to evict or keep noms the same and have BIG D to chose whoever he wants. Both scenarios X doesn’t have any direct blood in his hands…but I just don’t think he’s going to cut Ky right now, I hope I am wrong!
I hope Xavier keeps the gentleman agreement
The smart move. Vote out Ky- although he played a great game. Then if by some chance Big D or Azah win the HOH- vote out Xavier. If that were the photo finish it should go to who won HOH since neither of them have done anything in the competition. I mean there is the social game, but they didn’t really strategize, or come up with plans. They were followers throughout the entire game, and easy to beat. An honestly, not that smart. Azah should have put xavier and ky up on the block when she was HOH. Or put up one of them and backdoored the other. If Xavier gets Ky out and ends up winning the final HOH- I really don’t know what discussion there could be in the house. Seriously, the other two has not strategy, won nothing and did absolutely nothing except the bidding of others.