Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Chelsie
Nominees: Lisa, Angela, Kenny Tucker
POV Players: Lisa, Kenny, Angela, Brooklyn, Chelsie and Joe
POV Winner: Kenny
Veto Ceremony: Kenny used the Veto on himself, Tucker nominated.
Havenots: Rubina, Leah, Makensy and Lisa
9:40pm HOH room – Chelsie and Cam
Chelsie – Tucker would be a good one to win next week because he isn’t gunning after any of us. Cam – yeah for sure but who would he put up? He thinks Makensy has the power of two. I think he would put her up for that reason. Chelsie – do you think one of us should win next week. Cam – I don’t think any of us should win next week. I think somebody else needs to win next week as long as it’s not Angela because Angela might put one of us up next week. Chelsie – You think? Cam – Yeah .As well as Tucker. I think she would put Tucker, Makensy and Leah up or somebody like that. Chelsie – Yeah. Cam – I think we’re good. I think we’re good for, like, another two weeks.
9:43pm Unicorn Bedroom – Lisa and Quinn
Quinn – Like bro. Shut the fuck. I did not even do that. You know what I mean? She also went to Tkor talking about it. You didn’t even let her get to the point of what she was trying to say. She just keeps convincing herself that she hasn’t had her moment yet, even though it’s like you forced several, several moments out of two weeks. I just feel awkward knowing that someone has, like, made it their mission to try to fuck me up. And it’s like she keeps talking about oh, this is her dream and everything like that. And I’m like, yeah, dude, everyone has a dream and we’re trying to live it whether people are fans of this show or not. This is like a really big life thing. So for her to like, it kind of feels like if you’re losing in monopoly, that instead of just losing, she’s selling all her properties to someone else to sabotage someone. Lisa – that’s a great analogy. Quinn – Like, just for a lower price.
Lisa – I thought she was still trying to work with you. Quinn – No, no, no. She fucking hates my gut. Lisa – I didn’t know you were working with her. Quinn – No, it wasn’t like anything formal or anything. She was the first HOH at the time. She was the most well-like person in the game and so I was under the assumption. Oh, this is going to be like a well-adjusted person to work with. We have a really nice conversation about the game and whatever, because we’re.
because we’re both fans. And so then I’m like, wow, this is great we’re on the same page. I’m not going to go up. That’s cool. And then she has this crazy freak out the very next day.
9:50pm HOH room – Makensy, Joseph, Cam and Chelsie
Chelsie – We did have a fiasco happen today. Makensy – we did? Lisa and Angela? Am I blanking? Oh f**k yeah. Cam – everyday BRO! Makensy – see it just becomes so f**king old news. Chelsie – well you were in the room with me. Makensy – yeah I was, I f**king forgot about that. Cam – why was she crying? Chelsie – because Angela called her a twit! Joseph – well she was crying in the room even before that. Like a different time .. like literal tears. Because we were sitting I don’t know if you saw it but we were sitting in the kitchen and Lisa just walked by Angela and Angela mocked her walk. Makensy – yeah I did see that… or I heard it. Joseph – and then Lisa went off into the room and I followed her .. and same sh*t she was just there crying and I gave her a hug and I was like YO ignore her. Be strong.
Makensy – Collectively as a house how are we feeling? Which one to get out (Lisa or Angela)? Cam – I thought it was Lisa? Makensy – I thought it was too but I was just wondering. I just wanted to make sure we’re all on the same page because we all don’t wanna be like 5-6 and everybody mad at each other. Like I feel like we have to be like get this one out and then get this one out. Joseph – Yeah I don’t really care to be honest. Chelsie – I feel like if Lisa is out Angela won’t have too many people to pick on.
Makensy – I agree with that. Joseph – And then she could go against anyone at that point… Big Brother blocks the feeds.
10:10pm Unicorn Bedroom – Brooklyn talking to the cameras.
Brooklyn – Okay, Lisa thinks she staying. She is only staying if she wins the AI. I have to go upstairs and talk with The Penagon and make sure we’re still all on the same page.
10:17pm Bedroom – Tucker and Kimo
Tucker – You’ve got it in good with the girls. There is obviously a huge girl alliance. I am pretty sure Brooklyn is running. Big Brother switches the cams.
10:20pm – 10:40pm HOH room – Brooklyn, Chelsie, Leah, Cam, Joseph, Makensy, Quinn, Cedric, Rubina
Leah – No, the best is like we’re all there. And Lisa started singing and I’m like everybody’s like that. I’m like I have to literally go. I just can’t wait. When they’re sitting next to each other and Angela’s like, SHHHHHHH!! Brooklyn – Angela was like see, no one thinks that that’s bullying me. She’s antagonizing me. She could have sat anywhere and sat about me. And then she tells me Lisa tells me
something. I’m like, you’re right. Makensy – Like y’all are both doing it to each other and y’all f**king know it! Just quit it! Stop acting like f**king third graders! Chelsie – But Lisa’s like, I just hope that you guys do like… Big Brother blocks the feeds.
They talk about all the inconsistencies in Lisa saying she is a chef but how there are so many red flags that point to her not being a chef. Brooklyn – Biggest thing is tomorrow just make your feel. Make her feel like Angela’s going home. Makensy – Act normal, act normal. Joseph – Yeah. Nothing cute! Chelsie – And if she tries to pull stuff out or just say hey, like the plan is Angela, keep it the same. You know?! Leah – The Pl-angela? Joseph – Yeah. Brooklyn – And worse comes to worse she wins AI and no right back on. Joseph – Then we send Angela though. Yeah. Yeah, she’ll be right. Leah – Either way, this weekend, next week are the easiest weeks. Rubina – no matter what tomorrow we stick to the plan.
11pm – HOH chatting about random things continues.. Lisa, Brooklyn, Chelsie, Leah, Cam, Joseph, Quinn, Cedric, Rubina (Lisa has joined them. Makensy has left)
11:15pm – 11:30pm Bedroom – Tucker, Kimo and Tkor
They talk about AL competition. Kimo gives pointers and ideas of what he thinks it might be. Tucker – If Lisa does have immunity. I think it would already have to be done. And if not, she would have to do it. If you she gets called to the DR in the morning, then that’s because they’re going to ask her if she can use it or not.
Tucker – I don’t know if you guys know that but Makensy has immunity. She does like a fact. She told Chelsea and she told me because I called her up. Tkor – so Makensy has Immunity? Do you know who else has it? Are we still suspecting Lisa? Tucker – I don’t think she has a immunity. I think she has a double or triple vote. Tkor – Oh,
you think it’s different? Tucker – because they did two different challenges and two people were out the 1st week who could not vote.
So it only makes sense that rolled over to her. So she might have a triple f**king vote. Tkor – Does it expire? Tucker – Yeah, she can only use it on herself after 4 weeks. She can use it on anybody else, I think it expires in four weeks. Tkor – Gotcha. Tucker – But she’s saying that to kind of help and then she told Chelsea that. It’s up to America to pick. America to pick what the replacement nominee. Tkor – Ohh. Tucker – Chelsea says something is that’s already fishy. She’s not telling one of us the truth. Tkor – who do you want out this week? Tucker – Lisa, because that’s the only one I have beef with. She (Angela) is a lot easier to deal with than Lisa. Lisa is always around.
11:40pm Kimo returns. Tkor goes to the diary room. Kimo – Quinn does have it (the power). Tucker – so Lisa doesn’t? Kimo shakes his head no. Kimo – I know for a fact that he does have it. Tucker – what is it? Kimo – its what Angela said. That’s why I was silent. He can overturn an entire HOH so he can replace all 3 noms. Don’t tell anyone I told you. I mean Angela already kind of told you but he does have it. So we have to protect Quinn because Quinn has our backs. Tucker – that’s HUGE! Kimo – I know. He doesn’t want people to think that he’s been lying.. but I am trying to get him to form something and overturn someone else. I don’t know.. Tucker – yeah. He is smart to keep it because if by chance Angela wins HOH next week. Tkor comes back to join them.
12:05am Unicorn Bedroom – Quinn and Brooklyn
Quinn – I want to get a letter from my mom and I can be like that’s right my mom’s cool. I keep making the joke that Matt’s mom did a bad job of raising me too. I’m like yeah Matt’s mom she did not have it together. Brooklyn – Yeah. Quinn – no but I just I had a good talk with Chelsea too and she was she’s like our five is a five and I’m like yeah and then we all have a person or two that we’re close with that we can connect with. Quinn – I trust you so much. Brooklyn – I trust you too and I trust our five.
12:20am HOH room – Chelsie and Makensy
Chelsie – I think she (Lisa) does(have a power). But to give her the option to use it the day of, and then the option where you have to use it is unfair. Makensy – I agree. Chelsie – So I don’t think they’re going. I think whatever the power it had to have been used in the veto ceremony.. I think she really thinks that we’re not going to for sure (vote her out). Or she’s just very confident in herself that she’s going to win the AI comp. Makensy – She said today she was a goddess. Makensy – Yes, ma’am. And she is a goddess. Chelsie – She’s a queen. She doesn’t lack confidence in herself but she has wrong confidence in believing that she’s safe this week. Makensy – No. Chelsie – Thursday is going to be so interesting. I will feel better after the AI arena. I will tell her we have a decision. I mean, everybody’s thinking. Lisa is just regardless. It’s just if she wins. I mean, either way, it’s not bad. I think though, if Lisa wins, I don’t think she’s going to put up a girl. Makensy – I completely think she will. Chelsie – she is playing everybody. She wasn’t up in my grill at all week one. Wanted nothing to do with me and now all of a sudden you’re trying to work with me? Makensy – A typical Big Brother move. You know, be friends with head of household.
12:35am Bathroom – Rubina and Makensy
Makensy – Lisa is just not the friend. that I would be around 24/7. Rubina – agree. Makensy – She’s someone that I would love to hang out with love to party with. I’m just a great time and I think there are times when you could go to her and need support and she would be there for you 100%! Just like not 24/7. I’m just like and she’s like hi like how are you doing and Im like good. I just need some alone time. I need to recharge. Rubina – maybe we should tell her.. Well I guess it doesn’t matter anymore. Makensy – I’m just like but that’s the thing like I can’t tell like if me saying that would tick her off like I don’t I can’t read the bitch and that’s funny because she feels the same way about us.
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Get Makensy some Kälteen Bars her mean girl is showing!!!
She set out to integrate with the rest of the house and the girls in particular, after realizing she’d isolated too much with Matt and Leah. She’s happy to be included and working the mean girl bonding strategy. I’m not excusing her. Seems she’s practiced this in her life in the past, and it’s just natural to her.
Like, like, like like…
My last hope that this ISN’T season 19 but with bbtwitter supporting the MOB….
has evaporated.
Turning off feeds for the night, reflecting on whether or not I just start doing mass nopes to avoid the rush.
Btw…
I hope Angela decides to aim at Chelsie next with her venom. ONLY reason she ISN’T…. Chelsie is HOH.
Not happy with these assholes.
I feel the pull of the Dark Side. Come to me Angela. Be my vessel. Rip the soul out of each houseguest. Destroy them all!
Chelsie deserves it, that’s for sure!
Of all the nasty behavior Angela has shown us you’re more upset with Chelsie? Wow, smh, that tells me so much.
When did I say I was upset with Chelsie????? Funny that you assume such bizarre things. That says everything about YOU, actually…
Tinkerbell was responding to un autre nom, not you. If she/he had been responding to you, his reply would have been indented under yours, as mine is.
Yes, my mistake. But I do despise Angela a million times more than Chelsie!
uh…. i’ve made my disgust with Angela clear for days on end.
The reason for the Chelsie comment: read the title to the post. That part of that conversation in the HOH. THAT’S WHY the Chelsie comment.
Don’t even try me as far as that thinly veiled attack the commenter not the comment part at the end there. My opinions regarding shunning, mobbing, prejudicial bias and racist behavior in the game have been expressed so often that for real… naah.
Both Tucker and Chelsie are depending on gossip and pushing hate in order to get mob targets in the game. As much as Angela is in your face, the house is behind people’s back. None get a pass from me…. But Chelsie made the reward the bully comment that led me to say fine, let Angela loose at Chelsie next if she wants to say get rid of Lisa and Angela will have less people to attack: she’s gone at 2/3 of the house in 13 days.
Here’s the thing, and no disrespect intended.
There is a lot of implicit bias in the dominant culture towards Black women who are assertive and energetic. It’s the Loud Black Woman trope, who is perceived as somewhat threatening on a physical level. A perception that she’d beat you down in the mall parking lot bc you threw her a rude look.
So, sometimes we need to stay mindful of that when constructing our thoughts. Otherwise, it perpetuates the stereotype, even if unintentionally.
Objectively Chelsie has not demonstrated anything that makes her deserving of venom,esp of the Angela variety.
I do feel it would serve Chelsie and her alliance a good lesson in karma if Angela went off on them irrationally, just so they see how helpless a position Lisa was in as Angela’s target. But, I’m not saying with relish, oh let her feel the wrath.
So, there is some sort of imbalance in terms of wanting one person harshly punished to such degree, when their actions pale in comparison to the true aggressor, who may be getting a bit of implicit pass due to her whiteness.
Just some thoughts.
Thank you for your response.
I’m not ignorant to most of your points.
I call everyone in the big brother house out when they are being assholes.
Nobody gets a hall pass. Most seasons lately I’ve lacked a fave houseguest that I’ve wanted to win. So even playing field to all houseguests: if they say., do or are involved in something i think is asshole behavior they get a call out.
If the title of the post and the person who made the comment i found objectionable were made by ANY houseguest, that is the houseguest I would have said fine. let Angela go for their throat next.
I get it. I’ve seen your posts and I know it’s part of your writing style to dramatize the emotions we feel as viewers.
Seasons ago during the first episode videos of HGs finding out they’ve been chosen, I made a comment to my daughter that I didn’t like Bayleigh. My daughter immediately called out my reaction as racist. I said what, can’t I just have a first impression? She said, it seems you have a visceral response to her as a Black ‘Loud’ Woman.
But I’ve been more aware that perhaps I do carry some knee jerk implicit bias, just as everyone of dominant culture.
So I really try to sit back and observe without ‘pinging’. I mean, some pings day to day are neutral for all sorts of situations. Just making sure.
Angela goes after men because she knows they won’t come back at her. She also goes after women for the same reason. She won’t go after any of the women who will stand up to her. She was going full blast at Quinn but the minute TKor uttered on sentence she burst into tears. She maybe unstable but she’s not stupid
I think that was a result of different reasons with Tkor.
Yelling at Quinn is a way for her to aggressively protect her frail ego. But Tkor coming into the situation in a reasoned way, triggered another level where Angela felt rejected and powerless. She felt misunderstood, the victim yet again, and here is another person who thinks she was wrong in that situation. More so also, Tkor has the persona that is so reasoned and understanding, which makes it hard for Angela’s usual defenses of claiming assault and then going to battle.
All her actions are a result of her emotional instability. All of them.
I agree with you that it’s getting bad. The only difference I see so far with this season and season 19 is that Paul was the clear leader of all that nonsense that year, and the sheep just fell in behind him.
I also remember how they turned on and ate their own if they showed even the slightest sense of mercy or caring towards the targets on the other side.
That whole season sucked, and the only redeeming factor about it was it produced possibly the worst winner (IMHO) in BBUS history when Josh beat Paul in final 2, when clearly Paul had been the leader the whole season, and Josh basically did nothing but bang some pots and pans together.
Hated Paul and glad he lost! Sometimes, life karma is more important than game legitimacy. My family stopped watching at a certain point bc there was no one worth rooting for.
day after.
If anyone hasn’t guessed…
I have a visceral reaction to issues of mob mentality and ‘bullying’ (I hate the overuse of the word in big brother, the actual cases where it’s appropriate). It’s a button issue for me.
Thanks in advance for understanding when I go on a tear.
We all have trauma triggers, haha. Not funny, but yeah.
Strange that they are all targeting Lisa when she clearly has no proper allies in the house. It’s a very lackluster mob mentality and it’s boring to see. The obvious person to vote out would be Tucker; he basically volunteered himself out the door and he would be quite a tough person to beat in an endurance comp or a relay type veto. If I was in the house I would be dropping seeds to blindside Tucker while gaslighting Lisa to go after the mean girls if she wins.
lisa’s an easy target for this reason. i see the logic of targeting tucker but i think everyone assumes he’ll win the ai comp. the ai comp being in play makes it to risky to go for him regardless though as the chance he’s safe puts a target on your back. ultimately i hope the ai comp goes away asap as it makes it very difficult to target strong players.
If he loses the AI comp, just vote him out. If he wins it, you’d just pretend to be happy he did and vote Lisa out.
you still need to campaign before the comp takes place so any word of that campaigning getting back to him is the risk not worth taking.
This is the same rationale that led the house to vote out Matt, even though they liked him and felt they could have worked with him for awhile. But, you never leave the big threats on the table. You have to take the hit when it presents itself.
Problem is, Tucker is so goofy that it minimizes perceptions of his physical threat levels.
He’s also been somewhat of a shield for them against Angela, and a bandleader towards Lisa. He gives the HGs a sense of security.
Wrong. If Lisa is out, she’ll just find another target. Laste week Matt was on her shit list, now it’s Lisa.
It will be Kenny week if Angela doesn’t go. This is the strangest group ever. Its like they are all buddies and have to follow each other around. And don’t get me started on them doing their makeup. Lord have mercy I can do mine in 5 minutes, ladies it isn’t a beauty contest.
Kenny has a big case of: If you don’t approach me, I’m the one who rejects you. Imma stay an independent lone wolf. I want to go home, no one is friendly here to an older dude.
I guess he never saw Felicia and Cerie in action, as well as others of his age range.
It’s you, dude, not them.
He’s so socially insecure. I can feel for a person IRL who is that way, but he chose to go on a show of contained social environment that evokes people’s worst sides and can be very isolating for some.
I think BB banked on him finding his bro niche with someone like Matt. But Matt left much sooner than expected.
If Lisa doesn’t win AI and goes home, I can’t wait until Angela starts in with Chelsei and her crew at some point over nothing. The fact Chelsei thinks Angela will calm down once Lisa is gone. Lol.
If Kimo pulls this off, it’s great gameplay. He’d have cleared the road for his ally Quinn, who is now in such a bad position bc of his power reveal to Angela. Kimo has the right amount of sincerity to be very transparent and get someone like Tucker to appreciate the info without feeling sussed towards Quinn for not telling him sooner. Kimo and Quinn could have Tucker as their meat shield. Also lays groundwork for a solid alliance group for them.
Kimo-Don’t tell anyone I told you. I mean Angela already kind of told you but he does have it. So we have to protect Quinn because Quinn has our backs. Tucker – that’s HUGE! Kimo – I know. He doesn’t want people to think that he’s been lying.. but I am trying to get him to form something and overturn someone else. I don’t know.. Tucker – yeah. He is smart to keep it
I genuinely cannot stand Angela. In absolutely no way do I find her entertaining. The immature, elementary school insults & temper tantrums were fun for about a day, and now I’m just embarrassed for her.
It all just screams attention seeking behavior to me. She has major main-character syndrome.
The sooner she leaves, the better.
I would bet money that she has Borderline Personality Disorder.
She definitely has some type of mental disorder!
Narcissitic Personality Disorder
Sometimes it’s both, but in her case it seems more BPD than NPD. Her victim mentality would have to fall under covert NPD, but she lacks a strong sense of entitlement that everyone was supposed to love her and accept her as leader if not for the bad luck/karma of x, y, z, and gazillion. I also don’t see her as particularly perfectionist, which is a key component as well. The most beautiful, the most glorified.
She’s full of insecurities which are quite up front rather than hidden under a false persona.
Additionally she has frequent mood swings and acts and speaks impulsively to her detriment. She also rages when she feels any sense of abandonment
For sure. People pleaser apologizing to her noms and feeling genuinely guilty and uncomfortable, then getting triggered by paranoia over rejection and abandonment.
No core sense of self, she lives in reactive cycles of trying to be liked, then enraged and demanding, then superficially feeling like she’s powerful and successful. Then, reset, recycle.
Angela is a bitch, bully I have said it before. She is not nice. We were not all made out of the same mold. Nobody has the same hair, skin walk and talk, everyone has their own head shape, eyes, nose and mouth. Body shapes, clothing choice and accents. She goes after people for anyone of these things. Matt eyes, Lisa the way she walks, smirks and her personality. There will be many more outbursts. She says she is a grandma and they are watching, are her grand kids school yard bullies? She’s going to say something really wrong or hurt someone and CBS should be sued.
I can’t believe that they are voting out Lisa instead of Angela. They are sending a message that they are OK with bullying. If I won HOH I would put up Tucker Brooklyn and Chelsea. Hope Lisa wins the AI
Not a Lisa fan (she acts like she is so high end but really is hard to take) but I totally agree with you. If Lisa leaves before Angela it gives Angela more fuel to her misguided illusion in her fractured brain that Angela is the Queen of BBHOUSE26 and she does no wrong. My favorite line from Brooklyn ,”I tell them both individually, You will be fine…….(under her breath) at home!”
Another cast in for a big surprise on public perception of their mob mentality bullying ways.
Tkor and Kimo did have a conversation on how they don’t like it.
Not seeing any independent thinking from the rest.
I hope Kenny wins the next HOH and puts up the mean girls ( Chelsie, Leah, Makenzie), and if Makenzie can still use her Veto to save herself,then I hope loud mouth Rubina goes up. They might not like Lisa but the way they keep talking about her and making her feel alienated is right up there with high school bullying. The only women in that house who show maturity are Brooklyn and T-Kor. Brooklyn tries to bring maturity to their nasty conversations and often look at them like they’re mean little girls, while T-Kor finds a reason to leave.
Sorry, but I don’t think America is going to nominate Rubina, if Makensy uses her power to take herself down. I’m pretty sure America will slap Angela’s hateful ass in that nomination seat PDQ, and we can only hope that those brainiacs will see the error of their ways and vote her out, if she remains there after the AI comp.
Tucker once again showing us he’s got the brain of a manure fly. He says he hopes the AI competition is either physical or endurance. Has he never even watched a single season of Big Brother? He should know the eviction show is a “live” show, and there’s no way they can do an endurance for the AI comp, because of time limitations! In fact it will be like the one last week, some kind of quick 2 or 3 minute comp, so that they can get the 3rd person off the block, allow the other 2 a couple of minutes to “pull” people to campaign for votes (which Matt and Kenny refused to do last week), and then get on with the voting.
In their zeal to get rid of Lisa, the group-think has determined that Angela will have no one to hate on if she leaves. Hmmmm…..she found Matt and Makensy week one and Lisa in week two. I guarandamntee you, she will find somebody in week three to blame/hate for her perceived lack of friends in that house. It’s how she rolls, and for them to not see that is more because they’ve got their “we want Lisa out” blinders on, versus they really thought this through and truly believe Angela won’t find another target for her rage. Only Joseph seemed to express the slightest belief that could happen.
I think they’ll regret their decision for roughly 7 days, or the time it takes for them to get Angela re-nominated and voted out of that house. I think she’s gonna make it a bad 7 days for all of them.
They have no understanding of what makes someone like Angela tick, even though she’s given them plenty of evidence of how her brain and behavior cycles.
I think someone like Joseph may realize more than he lets on. He has a certain maturity that most of the house lacks this season. He just doesn’t want to stand out and get himself targeted.
A smart houseguest hearing Kenney whine that he wants to leave would take him back to his bedroom, ask him which drawer is his clothing, and offer to help him pack.
Not saying this to be mean, but it is time for the house to say shit or get off the pot.
‘if i don’t win a comp, send me home?’ oh…. so i don’t want to play if i’m not winning?
if it’s play dead strategy, call him on it, if he caves and doesn’t leave, expose his ass.
if he actually leaves? One less person to keep everyone else from winning.
Call him out. Stay or go. Decide NOW.
A smart houseguest would look at what each person on the block does for/against their game strategically. Not personally. Strategically. This house? Every decision thus far? Personal. How can I say this? The number of conversations where they speculate who has the second power privately, but run with the Lisa has the power publicly in order to get rid of her because of personal crap not game. She interrupted my moment in introductions? I hate her cooking? She’s annoying?
sideye. Come on now.
Did Kimo do the right thing gamewise telling Tucker about Quinn’s power. I think I’ve expressed a few times that Kimo is team Tucker because he wants to sit at the coolkids table for lunch. More than that…. he’s seeking a meat shield. Anyone saying Kimo / T’Kor are the final 2 duo to watch: he didn’t tell her about the power. He didn’t tell her about the Andersons. After it was revealed to Tkor by Quinn, Kimo said he thought it was fake alliance. Kimo,is socially duo with T’kor, sure. She’s not his final 2. Neither is Quinn. Kimo’s ideal is to be duo with Tucker.
So…. the jury is still out on whether or not it was the right call for Kimo.
The entire reveal:
It’s more of that are they all getting advised to tell Tucker everything in the d/r worry my tinfoil has been sensing lately. The ‘you should tell Paul’ post d/r reveal in 19 helped produce this conspiracy tinfoil aspect of my game analysis, so it’s always lurking there as a worry. Other things that may come up to push the tinfoil hat? D/R calls to tell an HOH not to nominate a houseguest like in us18 and can6. D/R calls that cause memory loss like in can7.
This season we have oddity…. but nobody is outright pulling a shenanigan while saying “uncle bob told me.” So it’s suspect, but who knows territory.
Suspect but who knows seems to be a running theme. A lot of questionable decisions in the game are wink wink without the nudge nudge. So suspect… but who knows.
Absolutely about Kenny. Even though if that is his strategy it is so lame. Brooklyn who is tired of his whining said “We all know what we signed up for and our families knew what to expect! You are well aware what is supposed to happen. To say that it wasn’t you were expecting what happens in this house is just(eye roll) excuses”
I think Kimo is trying to use Tucker for a period of time, both as meat shield and as a way to better incorporate into the social groups.
I don’t think he’s a wannabe with the cool kids.
He knows that it’s necessary for getting ahead. Otherwise, he’s just the nice non-scary nerd pawn. He was used that way week 1, but able to slip out for now bc of the drama with Angela and mob mentality towards Lisa.
I think he knows the importance of keeping info to himself. He dropped the Quinn info to Tucker in a very precise way. It is risky, but it has a specific goal with delivery. It wasn’t random or impulsive.
He doesn’t need to say more to T’kor right now.
Lol, “as a SMART houseguest!” Lol, gets me every time!
Why is it that a group of white people vs a group of people of color will always have different motives and standards in some people’s minds.
beyond skin color there are pretty significant culture differences between white people and pocs and that generally results in the two groups isolating from each other. there have been many sociology experiments bearing this out and it’s part of the reason why producers have generally increased the number of pocs on reality shows as they otherwise get isolated and voted out pretty early on otherwise.
I think the post was pointing out viewer perceptions of behaviors. If white people do it, it’s seen as smart game play to manipulate the house against other players. Or, endearing in ways.
When POC do it, it’s seen as angry and aggressive.
People saying Chelsie has a lot of anger bubbling under the surface. Why is that any different from Tucker, who’s been very cranky and moody? But no one describes him as ‘angry’.
Episode review: Wednesday review after Sundays worst edit prize.
They plan to include a feed cut in the edit. But we won’t know how they edited vs. how it happened. I expect D/R additions to shape narrative Prodo wants.
POST NOMINATIONS
Kenney thrives under pressure? sideye check please before he orders in the restuarant level thrive.
Angela went a little cray-cray? She’s made up entire conversations with herself…. and told the house they happened…. as fact.
Brook and Quinn know they’re bottom of the pentagon.
Quinn alliances with everyone but Kenny.
Andersons. Visionaries. Quinn is only truthful with Visionaries? ummm. hmmm. Oh right, Quinn and Leah haven’t been revealed and edit doesn’t show Quinn and Kimo don’t tell T’kor MOST of their info in the trio.
Lisa campaigns to Chelsie Game reasons revealed for targeting…. but SO much left out.
A FEED BLOCKED ISSUE IS COMING BUT THIS ISN’T IT.
CCC Core and T,Kor talking in the corner about Noms, winner, cookout parallels issue.
They don’t have to worry about cookout things…..
Here comes Angela.
Tells Quinn look at that group. She says d/r group she wants to work with… but her tone is sus with Quinn. Listening to Angela’s tone on feeds…. I was sus too.
Quinn reveals to T’kor, Joesph Kimo.
T’kor tells Cedric. Cedric gives a pentagon related answer…
This edit has some… problems. it’s not coverup. it’s edit related because so much was not revealed last week to keep focus Angela Matt.
CCC+T’kor isn’t a named alliance but they def had a rock with you talk 3x end of last week. It’s meant to keep the Collective active but not real to the Core. They discussed trying to keep MJ/Leah leashed with Barbershop type deal in the same way. Only real if it has to be but not real.
VETO
Puzzle tower using plastic rings and platforms.
Kenney d/r isn’t the same as Kenney house talk. AGAIN. why are they hiding the boot me talk?
HAVE NONE OF THESE PEOPLE BUILT A CARD TOWER OR SEEN OLD THE CHALLENGE PUZZLES? THEY DID THIS EXACT PUZZLE YEARS AGO…. with an ice bath.
KENNEY WINS VETO. Now he doesn’t want to quit for a FULL 24 HOURS.
Since we skipped the pawn volunteers last episode… Chelsie in a pickel.
We’ve skipped the Cam volunteer, Cedric if he HAS to volunteer and the Cam/Leah showmance worry. See we skipped SO MUCH.
BACK TO THE FEEDCUT ISSUE
Cedric reports to Chelsie. Chelsie goes to Angela. Angela says no malice. Quinn betrayed Angela’s trust.
First Angela verbal at Lisa shown in episode. SKIPPED THE FIGHT LAST WEEK THAT STARTED THE FEEDBLOCKS. The Kimo said later removable offense argument.
T”kor enters. Angela cries a lot. Quinn was scheming d/r in the same session as the here are all my alliances d/r. he was trying to out Angela’s game. Is the d/r cut and paste from the previous session? Valid question?
The this isn’t about race explosion from Angela. Goes to d/r for the defamation talk.
Tucker volunteers as pawn.
The edit is…. who knows because we didn’t see the full feed. for hours. and for retells.
So we have to assume prodo…. who has a storyline…. is giving us the full story. Are they?
Angela apology to T’kor post d/r. T’kor d/r all is forgiven. was t’kor all forgiven on feeds?
sideye.
THE TIME MACHINE TUCKER GRODBOY EDIT
Tucker / Mak power discussion. Chelsie TOLD him already. Remember. not in edit but Chelsie told him. He isn’t an investigative genius. He was told.
Tucker telling half the house not shown. Tucker swearing he won’t tell anyone not shown.
TIMEY WIMEY. Tucker trying to get out of veto volunteer. Go for Mak.
Feeders know this is a timetwist to the extreme. This is the set up block to show that Tucker is a strategic genius idiot savant grodboy… hiding the source of his knowledge is other people telling him everything like they are under orders.
VETO CEREMONY
Kenney uses veto. Tucker is renom pawn. By no means a target Chelsie says.
So.
The edit is sympathy for the devils? Why devils: we’re stilllll getting feed cuts regarding Angela. We’re skipping the behind the back on Lisa stuff by Every House Guest that makes all of them look like assholes.
Why the edit of the episode is contentious:
We know the tmz leak got eyes on angela re: Matt for season publicity.
We know feed blocks ensued as soon as Angela and Lisa argued.
We know feed blocks continued during and after the Angela and Quinn debacle.
We know tmz info is Angela got real world job complaints.
We know the edit process. We know how the wagons circle to protect storyline, and at the same time, we know how production picks and chooses who and how to protect with their editing choices. Until the heat gets too intense, they try sanitize. It’s even easier to sanitize if they’ve cut feeds so much that the whole story is unknown.
For bbcan watchers: Think back to Paras saying in her designated cam talk all season that she didn’t want her story to be about showmancing. Every time anyone mentioned her showmance activities during feed blocked booze delivery parties…. more feed blocks occurred. Every. Time. And it was mentioned A LOT by other houseguests.
When feedblocks are happening with great frequency around a given topic it’s usually to protect storyline and to protect the houseguest.
JIGSAW:
What we have to go on:
We know Angela is very much trying to get screen time for antics to be the Rachel of the season. She said so.
Angela identified groups working together. She said in cam talks infiltrate or blow up were her options with those groups.
Her talk with Quinn when she saw the group by the hammock was ambiguous. Do we trust d/r about intent? The same d/r we’ve recognized for years is a production tool for storyline? that’s so unreliable it’s laughable.
So we have to remove d/r as a source because it’s an unreliable source.
Go by what we SAW.
Up unitl Cedric got on the line, the telephone was saying ‘that’s the group.’ When Cedric reported to Chelsie who reported to Angela it became ‘that’s the group to watch (later look out) for. Broken telephone added to this issue because when reported, each person asked what did you feel about that, and included their worries to shape tone.
The original tone was sus because she went from saying she wanted to work with a group or break them up to using a tone that REALLY DIDN’T sound like That’s the group was a positive…. so I figured she went for option 2…. blow them up.
Why we can’t trust Angela’s version? because she’s jeckyl hyde in a meat grinder depending on what the voices are saying to her 25 times a day. Episode edit showed ten seconds of that in a week one montage… but failed to show she acts on the conversations she makes up as if they were fact. So she cries wolf and the villagers no longer believe her. We can’t. Because she’s made up too many stories and twisted facts so many times depending on how long she’s been in the park riding a mood swing.
We don’t know that her intention was prejudice.
We don’t know that her intention was honorable.
We know that her worry until confronted by T’kor and asked directly what she meant… was Quinn tattled on her and broke her trust. We know after many feed cuts her worry wasn’t defamation, it was that he told on her. These are the things she said on feeds. But even that is ambiguity. Defamation entered AFTER the D/R calls for Wed episode ended when she was wearing the jeweltone blue shirt, not the pale blue shirt. THEN it was about defamation AFTER she’d had a chance to d/rsplain her side. And we can’t trust d/r.
CONCLUSION:
We ONLY know what the unreliable d/r as source is telling us. Depending on d/r is never a good sign. Stick to what we saw on feeds. She was either trying to point a group out to quinn as a let’s join or a let’s destroy but was ambiguous in her delivery, which had a latter not former tone. A game of telephone made matters worse. When asked directly her intent, she cried, wouldn’t listen to what the other person said, and cried some more casting blame elsewhere. Everything was somebody else’s fault.
Angela is still a nope. Nobody gets un-noped. The oxygen she takes out of the game is not equal to entertainment value… because hours of feed are lost due to her existence in the house.
Smoke a bowl
I don’t know why they kept Angela over Lisa she’s nasty nasty nasty.. I hope she goes up again and again and again. I wouldn’t want to be in a house where I would have to sleep with 1eye open! She bat shit crazy!