Part 2 Final HOH Results “I wonder how to make her not feel like shit”

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Sun, 9/20- 8p
Wed, 9/23– 9:30-11p Finale = Winner of Big Brother



Part 3 of 3 – Steve competes against Vanessa (Finale)

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11:12pm Feeds come back Steve won..
Steve and Vanessa Whispering “I just want to know how to make her not feel like shit”
Steve winders when they should tell Liz.
Vanessa – not now
Steve – I wonder how to make her not feel like shit
Vanessa tells him to be normal

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Liz says she got 31.11
Steve was 28 Something

It was very close.

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11:16pm Steve and Vanessa hug
Vanessa – it’s done we’re in finals
Steve- holy sh1t
Vanessa says her neck is super sore
Vanessa – “These Benzo’s help”
Vanessa says they make her really drowsy.

Steve says he must have f***ed up in the HOH because he should have been able to beat her better than 3 minutes.
Vanessa says they should tell Liz as late as possible she doesn’t want to have to deal with her campaigning.

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Steve – Vanessa i trust you you know what’s best I’ll do whatever you think
Steve getting all excited.. “OH MY GOD I GOT 50 K for my mom”

Steve – I never believed you I never f**king believed you .. you weren’t a liar..
Steve keeps repeating that he can’t lose his ‘Sh1t’ right now

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11:36pm HOH Lockdown

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12:06AM Steve muttering to himself “She might be on to me”

12:15am – 11:10am Vanessa goes to bed. Steve says he is going to sleep in the day bed. He grabs the covers from the comic bedroom and brings them out to the other bed. He then heads into the kitchen to eat. He sits at the table to eat and build things. Liz comes back from being in the diary room and Steve gets called in.
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1:19am – 2:10am Liz is in the kitchen alone and starts crying. “I’m such a loser! Mom’s gonna be so sad, I’m sorry! I could kill myself! So stupid! What’s wrong with me! I just want to kill myself! So stupid! God!” She then lay her head on the kitchen island and continues crying. “I want to kill myself! Oh God, so embarrassing! Sorry feeders its kind of an emotional moment. Sorry I’m crying. This place will do that to you .. but the live feeds aren’t even on me right now because I’m so stupid and crying. I hate myself so much! I’m so stupid!” She Eats and cleans up.

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2:10am – 2:30am Steve comes back from the diary room. He goes back to building things. Liz heads to bed. He spills his water and then tries to clean it up. He then stops and says he’s going to let it air dry over night. That was more work than the comp!

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2:40am Steve heads to bed.

9:50am The house guests continue to sleep.

10:05am – 12:50pm Big Brother wakes up the house guests. They all go back to sleep.

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1:30pm – 1:50pm Steve wakes up to eat. Liz gets up and starts getting ready for the day in the bathroom. Steve comes out of the diary room and tells Liz the backyard is open. Liz believes him. Steve laughs at how she believes him. He says you did see how much was out there last night didn’t you?! Liz says Steve you’re so annoying. She then chases him to the kitchen and realizes that the backyard really is open. Steve starts getting his clothes ready to do a load of laundry.

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2:10pm – 2:45pm Steve grabs a couple weights and bring them inside to use with whatever he is attempting to build with the toys. Vanessa gets called to the diary room and when she comes out she joins Steve and then heads to the bathroom to get ready for the day. Steve completes his “suspended house project” using the Lincoln Logs and weights. Steve and Liz start making food. Steve thanks the “beef cakes” for taking down the set up so quickly so they could have the backyard today. Liz says she’s just happy her favourite beef cake strapped her in last night. Steve asks the one with the pony tail? Liz says yes.

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204 thoughts on “Part 2 Final HOH Results “I wonder how to make her not feel like shit”

    1. No shit Skeve you’ve been sucking up to the biggest villain this season as a strategy. I’m winning $50k mommy, very my bubble bath ready, I’m coming home. Hahaha. I’m not gonna throw it though Scarnessa, I’m going to play hard to win HOH– seriously these two can’t be trusted, Steve has to announce he won’t throw Final HOH??? Did he tell Production? Food he ask Julie if it’s okay for him to play? I don’t know who I hate more, Skeve or Vanasty. Liz is $50k for her trip to Vegas, is she still invited if Skeve & Lizard go to F2? Hahaha

    2. I better not make this decision on Benzos, I’ll wait till tomorrow. I love the mind rape these two are steeped in. Im going to F2. I haven’t decided yet. You haven’t won yet. I’m Scar I’m Captain Hook, you’re seriously sick in the head, yeah so what, and a virgin too (hopefully forever we don’t need you procreating). I scored Benzos, I’m not talking game Skeve and I’m not telling Liz she’s not going to F2 bc she is! Stupid ass Skeve thought Vanasty would take him bc she’s got honor and integrity or stupid? I’m not throwing it Van….jeeezus….there’s gonna be more crying to mommy on camera tonight….and more drug abuse. Only way Steve goes to Final 2 is if Van ODs. Totally possible.

    3. Maybe he can be excited-as long as he’s genuinely just playing Van and doesn’t fall under her mist! He knows even with 2 or 3 lock down votes for Liz, he can make a better argument for playing the game. She was “protected” most of the game and choked at crunch time. I have a feeling if Van really believes she had him under her spell, she may very well throw it, given her “incentive” not to get blood on her hands. It’s gonna be a looooong few days folks!

    4. I’m rooting for Liz to win. She may not deserve it but I don’t dislike her like I do Vanessa and Steve.

      I think Steve may be helped in the final HOH that time is not a factor. He seems to get flustered when he has to make quick decisions.

      I’m voting for John for favorite houseguest too.

      1. I’m wondering if they have enough food for Liz if she goes through. Despite her suicidal talk and drama, good to see she still has her 24hr appetite!

        1. I’ll admit that I don’t want Liz doing my taxes but she looks great. Whether you like them or not the twins are hot.

    5. yeah… don’t see why either one of them wouldn’t take liz. sure, she’s got two jury votes locked up, but the other 7 have no such loyalty and liz stabbed james in the back just as bad as vanessa if not worse, which makes james/meg/jackie/becky completely up for grabs with shelli a “swing” who’s ether gonna be bitter about her showmance and thus anti-liz or favor comps/gameplay which also doesn’t bode well for liz (those quotations around “swing” because we haven’t gotten to the votes of jmac and steve/vanessa which could also very likely be of the anti-liz variety).

    6. This is a bad time for true Big Brother fans. We all dislike Vanessa but we all know that she deserves to win. Nothing against Liz and Steve and they deserve credit for surviving but Vanessa has dominated this game all season long.
      It doesn’t mean that we can’t keep watching and pray for a miracle though.

    7. So I’m thinking Steve is trying to make Van as comfortable as possible – hoping she doesn’t try as hard in the final comp.

      Steve wants the following to happen: He wants Van to be so confident that no matter who wins final HOH she’s going to the finals and it would be better for her not to win so he’d be the one to cut Liz and potentially give her more votes in the Jury rather than her pissing Steve or Liz off and possibly losing their vote (a la Dan in S14). Then he wants to win and get rid of her.

      The thing is – I don’t see Van falling for it – I think she knows there’s a chance Steve doesn’t take her. This 3rd Comp could be really interesting though. – these are probably the two smartest final 3 round 3 HOH houseguests I’ve seen play.

      1. Really only Vanessa will be blindsided, because Steve already admitted and knows Vanessa won’t take him to final 2. He may just cry for not making final 2, but he won’t be surprised or blind sided. Would be great TV to finally see Vanessa get a taste of her own medicine, but who knows if that will happen if production have their way.

    1. Van staggering around house slurring, I am too out of it to talk about Liz she’s gonna campaign, and I’m in a F2 with her. What Van? I’ll take the $50k no problem. What Van? You’re not telling Liz you and I are the nerd squad stooges of sound alliance? Well fuck you then mommy, I’m not gonna throw it then. He actually has to ask permission to play final HOH?? He’s the reason this season sucked. Whhhaaaat? You’re not gonna throw m me $500k Boy??! I made you you little motherf*cker. I changed your diapers all summer you sick little prick. I’m Scar, I’m Captain Hook, and I’m actually gonna play Mommy….ugh

        1. I’m just hoping she’s still taking mess and too out of it to concentrate. BB must be the local pharmacist. Every year for the last couple seasons seems like the entire cast are on some form of medication. What are the requirements to be in a an? I mean no one without mess get accepted that they have to go out and recruit those that are in some type of medication!

    1. This is a tough call. If you take Liz, she’s guaranteed 2 votes (out of 9) in the jury. I give Steve a 40% chance to bet Vanessa. He has come on the last 4 weeks and if he wins the final. But Vanessa has controlled the whole game.

      1. Steve has to take Liz because he knows Vanessa will crush him. Vanessa has made the obvious moves and he’s just hidden behind her. He only has a couple things he can sell to the jury where Vanessa can play a dozen angles.

      2. If Van kicks out Liz , Steve gets JuJu, Austin,JM and Liz’s vote (unless they really believe she will pay them off??) If Steve keeps Liz , he loses Van, Julia and Austin”s vote, but I think he has a good chance of taking the rest, because Liz and JuJu had 2x the chance to win. If Van keeps Liz, Liz gets, Steve, Austin and JuJu’s vote and a few others because they have all bee burned by Van

        1. I’m not sure about them feeling burned by Vanessa (sadly). Even shelli said she’s playing a great game. I think shelli may be able to convince people of how good of a game Vans been playing. For me, this is just another year of thinking none are deserving of the money. Vanessa will have Austins vote if she does not take Liz and julia/liz will follow since they don’t have a brain of their own..but then again,. without Vanessa telling them what to do, they wont know how to

  1. Steve is a douche and tries to suck up to Vanessa again, gag, by telling her she’ll win $500k and he’ll take 2nd. Now we get to watch these two promise to take each other. Van’s already hinting she won’t take him asking what do you mean you’ll have more to brag about in Jury, Steve quickly covers and says I barely won over Liz. Vans isn’t digging Steve’s assumption he’s got Final 2 in the bag, suggesting she’ll win final HOH and Liz will still be campaigning to her. If Steve wins he better take Liz and bring mommy $500k. If Van wins no way she’s taking Skeve.

  2. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch Stevie Boy!!!
    If Vanessa wins the final 3, she told Liz she is taking her. {they want a girl to win, and Vanessa has no loyalty to Steve}
    In a perfect world, Vanessa throws the 3rd part , { Vanessa thinks Steve will evicts Liz, therefore she is mad at Steve, and Vanessa gets her vote} in reality, Steve votes out Vanessa and takes Liz. Now that would be good TV!
    Liz I think will beat Steve! She has Austin, Vanessa, JuJu,, and I think Jackie, Meg, and James will give her their vote instead of Steve.

    1. Wouldn’t count on the Jackie, Meg and James vote, Liz was responsible for evicting James and who knows what shit Austin has been tying to spew! I believe Austin’s mouth and attitude could cost Liz! Austin (like Frankie last year) believes he controls the Jury vote……………….Ah NO, I hope they all tell him to STFU!!

    2. Because Steve would have to evict Vanessa to take Liz to final 2, I think that move will secure the goblins votes as well as Shelli (jmac, meg, jackie, james, becky too). I think Steve can beat Liz because of that move.

        1. I wouldn’t call either vote from Vanessa in the jury a bitter vote. Steve and Liz both have several things they can sell to the jury. Liz stayed in the game with a tight threesome, won HoH’s, and made moves to keep her and her sister safe. Steve can point out he took on the goblins, played Vanessa until the end, won HoH’s and kept himself safe by playing smart. They both have a shot without Vanessa.

          I can see her going wither way although she has said she wanted a female to win but that may have just been to keep herself in the mix with Liz.

          1. You’re right she has a lot on her resume. I just assumed she was unwinnable because she had the help of her sister in the house, and Austin shielding her 100%.

            I don’t agree with that (people should be rewarded on merit regardless of how much ‘help’ they had), but I just can’t see a jury ignoring it.

    3. I don’t think that Liz for sure has Vanessa’s vote. I think that’s a toss up. If anyone was going to be a bitter jury member it would definitely be Vanessa but on the other hand she might genuinely respect the game play move because I’m sure she’s figured out at this point that if she goes final two she’s basically guaranteed the 500k.

    4. I don’t see Vanessa taking Liz because that reduces her chances at the big win. Liz will have Austin and Julia’s vote. Vanessa will not throw the third part because she realizes that Steve may cut her because it’s what she’d do. She has to be the one to pull the trigger on who stays and goes. She’ll use it’s a game for half a million dollars and Liz was too hard to beat in the finals. Stoking her ego a bit and possibly hinting at a great time in Vegas should she win. ::wink, wink, nudge, nudge::

      Vanessa has thus restored Liz’s vote to her and away from Steve.

    5. VanASS has NO loyality to anyone. She has shown that already. lol.. That said, I hope Steve wins 3rd round and takes Liz..only because I want to see some real tears from VanASS instead of all the crocidile tears she’s shed all season. Then I hope they scan in on her and Austins’ faces when they aren’t picked as AFP..because you know both of their egos they will think that America loves them and will vote for them.

  3. Time for Stephen to show ASSTWIT he is NO BOY! Come on Stephen win the final and dispose of Vanasty!
    I would SO LOVE to Stephen win and ask ASSTWIT “Who’s the BOY now A$$hole!”.

      1. If moose wins and takes Boy, she will win. If Moose wins and takes Liz, she will loose. If Boy wins and takes Moose, he will loose. But if Boy wins and takes Liz, he will win. The jury would be impressed if Boy has the biggest balls to take out the strongest player(Moose).

    1. So his mom can use it to pay someone to make Steve’s peanut butter and jelly sandwiches that he likes to eat after he gets home from school.

    2. Smart BOY, tells his mom right up front, “$50K for you.”

      What Steve doesn’t say is, “The other $450K for me!” Huha-Huthuuu!! (learned that from JMac)

  4. Steve has 50K worth of air for what that is worth. Vanessa isn’t guaranteed taking him F2 and it’s Wednesday before the 3rd part happens. JC 5 days of dead air. Steve win or mommy’s 50K goes to Liz. Van is black hearted ruthlessness you fool. She might lose to you she is taking Liz maybe.
    Now logically Liz has 2 votes, sissy and Austin and needs 3 more. Vanessa should get the last 7. Steve said he’d vote for Liz short time ago. That could give her 3 and just need 2 out of the remaining 6. Strategically she has to eliminate Liz doesn’t she and hope Austwins come back to her on finale night.

    So lets say that doesn’t happen and Steve votes Liz 500k. Austin, Juju, Steve/Liz are not giving Van the money hypothetically. The 6 left are Goblins…. James, Meg Jackie and want to be a gobby Becky plus J Mac and Shelli. That’s the 6, Vanessa needs 5 of them potentially.
    Van versus Steve- Here Steve has had a hand in Goblins to the jury. I don’t think they have to vote as a block but lets say they do Van has 3. Need 2 from Becky, Shelli and JM. I think JM who doesn’t give a crap and Shelli enough I like this 6-3 Van against Steve. if she loses one still wins 5-4.
    Van versus Liz- could Liz peel off Meg and Jackie? Shelli is Van, Becky I’m not sure. James and JM, just think logically less certainty with Liz F2 the Steve. Those skittles are going to get a work out between now and Wednesday.
    One slight caveat and that’s Juju might vote Van over Steve. Still think she gives 3 votes to no matter who is left F2. She has to figure out how to get 5 out of 6.

      1. I don’t see benevolence from Vanessa. She won’t see most of these people ever again. Steve never sees a penny from her. As to you suggesting she’ll take Liz I’m leaning that way also. I thought for some time a twin was her end strategy. Accept for winning HOH F5 thus having to evict Austin, which looks like it cost her votes, she played a good season if not aided by AG and production.

      2. Or if Steve or Liz win – maybe V would convince them she deserved $50K for getting them to F2 …. that would be sad. She has so many plans for this money regardless of where it lands.

    1. Vanessa can’t lose if she goes to F2 and I really think she wants Liz but I think her odds are better with Steve. She ran through everything she controlled in the game with Liz the other day. If Liz ends up in the jury, she is hoping that Liz will be her advocate. But that would mean she would have to throw the HOH and pray Steve honours his deal. Mmmm…
      Steve’s only hope is to win HOH and oust Vanessa (as he keeps promising).

      1. she can’t be an advocate for VanASS with the jury..considering she leaves the house to join the jury on stage right away. She wont have a chance to talk to them about that idea is out, if that was what VanASS thought.

  5. steve all I want for Christmas is for you to win that final hoh
    come on steve we fans going for you if steve win big brother 17
    we will be so happy


    1. If Steve takes Vanessa he will get second. Steve’s only shot is taking Liz. If Vanessa is in the final 2 she wins no matter who sits next to her. That’s why no one is throwing part 3. Vanessa will take her chances with whoever she tosses if she wins and Steve will hopefully roll the dice with Liz otherwise he walks with 50k if he wins HoH and takes Vanessa.

    1. BB Canada, BBCAN1 and BBCAN3, the lady beat the man both times….even if Topaz f@cked up her vote in Season 1 lol! BBCAN2, if John Pardy didn’t screw over his showmance and take a floater to F2, she would have beat him ;)

      1. Oh i know that Canada has a totally different history than the US.
        Canada also has much more viewer participation in the game.
        The only statistic that still applies to Canada as well as the US is that the first person to walk through the door on night one is never the last person to walk out the door on finale night.
        (Zach on BBCAN3, Day’vonne on BB17 are the latest cases).
        If Steve is as aware of BB trivia as he says, he should know this.
        It doesn’t matter statistically who he takes.
        If Vanessa knows this, she would be more likely to take Liz.

      1. a man that sleeps with a teddy bear. First time I have ever seen a 22 yr old man running around with a teddy. If you watch him on the feeds every night talking to himself, crying, walking around counting things. Its hard to watch and very sad.

  7. All right Steve! Now, like I said, he’s probably going to beat Vanessa in part 3, he’ll take Liz, and Vanessa, despite having the strongest overall game, will finish 3rd. Steve, who played the smart quiet game, and won when he had to, will be your next Big Brother winner. Calling it.

    1. If it was Steve and Liz in the end, I don’t see Julia, Austin, Vanessa, James, Meg, or Jackie voting for Steve. I think Liz having to survive the twin twist would put her over the top.

        1. Liz didn’t have to survive anything… Her and her sister were kept safe. Once the house found out about it they decided they wanted her sister in the game too.

      1. I don’t know…it’s a tough call. I would speculate this is how the votes fall:



        I can see just as many arguments forming that Liz was protected most of the game due to the twist, by the Sixth Sense, by Austin, etc. I think it will ultimately come down to Meg and James’s votes.

        1. What if Liz makes the argument that she went into the game knowing she had to play under the radar as much as possible in order to get Julia into the game.
          Once she realized that people were questioning the twin twist, she worked her way into a group in order to be protected and insulated from being evicted.
          She then worked her way into flirting with the men, and a showmance in order to also stay insulated.
          She won comps when she had to, used the fact that she was a twin and part of a showmance to make herself insulated but powerful as a three vote block, and then settled in to summer camp as much as she could for as long as she could, allowing the alpha personalities in the game to get bloody, while she stayed cleaner.

            1. She was able to convince Vanessa and Shelli that her meat shield wasn’t disloyal in week five. She convinced them and then told Austin to go to Vanessa and come clean or his days were numbered.
              Oh, are we still pretending that Austin was responsible for saving himself? Sorry.

          1. seriously, have you heard Liz speak? Do you really think she would come up with an argument like that? Even when she had to make a speech being on the block, she didn’t know what to say, she had to ask vanASS and Austin for suggestions. Without someone telling her what to say nor having time to practice what she will say, she will hum and haw her way through it, not convincing one person that she is more deserving. She could surprise me, but I doubt it..LOL

    2. Do you really think he has the upper hand in part 3? Isn’t it always questions about what the other HGs said? I can’t figure out how good Vanessa and Steve might be with those questions. Steve also tends to overthink and get flustered, although it works in his favor sometimes. But as much I don’t want to see it happen, I think Vanessa is more likely to win it b/c they are equally capable but she is much calmer.

        1. I disagree. The point of the comp is that the more social player would have a better understanding of the other HGs responses. I suppose it may seem arbitrary to some, but I believe it has validity. If you think of your own personal relationships, you would probably find certain statements more fitting from some people vs others. Being locked up for three months can give you a very good handle on your housemates.

          1. Racheal got Brendon’s question wrong, and Jordan got jeffs wrong. And they spent the majority of their time in the house with them. So the point is moot.

  8. Steve you better win part 3 because Vanessa is taking Liz not you
    She wants to make sure a woman wins this year .
    And I bet you are going to take Liz not Vanessa
    James for AFP

      1. You want to give John AFP he threw competitions he was a doormat to
        other players on the block 9 times did not win an HOH
        HE may have been a little entertaining but

        1. But you are fine telling other people who their favorite house guest is? Go ahead and vote your man crush Jamesy but get used to the fact that John is going to win.

  9. I really hope he wins part 3 and sends Vanessa out the door, he would then win the Jury’s respect and secure the Win!!

  10. Simon, do you know why Steve kept putting that envelop or piece of paper between Liz’s toes during the HOH lock down? That was strange.

  11. Why do people believe that Vanessa wants a girl to win so bad? I mean that could’ve been another one of her numerous lies that she told as part of her strategy. If the Skittles are saying she has a better shot at winning against Steve there’s no way she would risk losing first place just so she would lose to a girl?! She just wants a girl to win this year if she’s that girl!

    1. It’s called a doctor. Believe it or not, even cbs can get one to come on set when need be. Tylenol doesn’t help shit when you have whiplash the only thing that helps are muscle relaxants, and that’s exactly what the doctor prescribed.

      1. Benzodiazepines and muscle relaxants are not the same thing. There are plenty of muscle relaxants to prescribe without resorting to benzos. Sounds like Van has CBS by the balls to cater to her drug addled ass all for some new show.

        1. I agree. And who confirmed that she has a whiplash diagnosis, anyway? Even patients with fairly intense back pain due to muscle spasm who are stiff as a board and having difficulty functioning for work, will not always immediately be prescribed muscle relaxants, as they are controlled substances and have the potential for abuse. And certainly not benzos. Sounds absurd.

        2. yes…muscle relaxers are not in the Benzoe FAMILY…again im an Addictions dude at a detox (rehab youz in the states call it) Benzoes is a Class of drug and there is alot such as Ativan, Valium, Clonzeapam etc…are a controlled substance….and HIGHLY addictive….the branch of that family where muscle relaxents are ….is called skeletol muscle .antispatic..Like Baclofen or FLEXERAL..(shaped like a house) short term can be used with benzoes but really should be closely monitored and absolutely no alcohol! as depresses your whole ventral Nervous System
          + adderal??like shit…1 depresses CNS and 1 speeds it up! shes knows how to con and EXACTLY what and how to ASK A Dr.for anything! sounds like she been doing this for years…abusing prescription drugs!

    2. It’s odd how willing they are to give controlled substances to Vanessa, while delaying treatment to Victoria and Becky for their pain. In terms of medical triage, certainly Becky was in more urgent need, with Victoria second. Vanessa’s pain is more like an overuse or sports injury…..try advil for a couple of days before going to the narcotics. My father had severe nerve pain for weeks from shingles neuralgia, and still the doctors held off on the narcotics and tried ointments and Tylenol/advil first. The only valid reason I can think of is that they don’t want Vanessa to be a train wreck in severe pain for the finale, but I find that a weak rationale since they could have surely waited a day or two. I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but it is odd. Maybe she’s just that good at talking people into what she wants.

  12. He thinks he is so “sneaky” he has been saying this all season. He was setting up for this moment when he can scumbag Vanessa and take Liz.

    Well you closet homosexual…you have no chance of winning part 3 against Vanessa. She will wipe the floor with you. And I even think she will take your ass to final 2. U who she carried on her back through this game.

    Steve you think you are “sneaky” and the best the player ever. Newsflash twinkle toes you are playing against the GOAT of Big Brother. Now go wash your hair and your self. You look like a five yr old who was neglected by their parents and doesn’t know how to clean himself.

    Can’t wait to see this self proclaimed “best BB player ever” sitting next Vanessa and then realizing the jury knows she carried him through this game. You lost fool.

    Go suck your moms nipple and tell her how “sneaky” you are in that stupid fake baby voice we all are glad we never have to hear again you pathetic little slimey greasey bitch boy.

    1. you think steve is pathetic? how do you think you come across? I must have missed something, I don’t recall steve saying he is the best BB player ever.

    1. Since you don’t televise what is happening in the jury house, maybe you could set up a pay-only access to live feeds of the jury house for viewers.

      1. Some reasons they don’t show the jury house, it’s a rented house and the cost and effort to put in the cameras and then remove them would not be cost effective for a month of feeds. The jurors are probably pretty boring and just trying to decompress after an emotionally taxing time in the house. They probably lay around mostly like some of them did in the beginning of the game. The biggest reason is they may talk about how they would vote on finale night and that would be a problem.

  13. Maybe just Maybe….Steve knows he cant beat either in the end…but just …is happy with 50K…
    and to be the one that finally got Vanessa out! ??

    1. I hope that is what happens. He probably figures he’s gonna come 2nd no matter who he is sitting beside, so why not try and earn their respect by doing what none of them ever could..the icing though, would be watching vanASS crying as she walks out the door..LOL

  14. also…Steve knows that the BB World knows that Vanessa should be the winner cuz outplayed everyone…
    So for him to be the one to squash that it will always be talked about…so hes happy with the 50K

  15. I don’t know what’s funnier, Liz throw 1st HOH(when she clearly could’ve beaten Vanessa who 10 years older than her), or screwing up in the 2nd HOH? She deserves to be crying, Twin Twist ruined this season. I hope whoever wins final HOH disent dry Liz to the finals. Steve & Vanessa actually earned final 2, Twins were carried most of the summer.

    1. I see on the poll here that JMAC has a 8.5% lead on James for favorite contestant. The way James was stalking Meg and that he quit keeps me from voting for him. John was voted out once so I had to go with Dawg.

      I think if James wins anything it will be a restraining order.

    2. I hope they are able to stop people like you from doing things like this by checking IP addresses. People should actually play by the rules IMO.

  16. How likely is it for Steve to beat Vanessa in round 3? I want him to win and then not take Vanessa (only because I want to see something unpredictable happen this season). This is my last hope.

  17. I don’t understand how they both think they will win easily against Liz? She already has her boyfriend and sister in jury and who ever will be the last juror will vote for her. If Vanessa wins final HOH she should take Steve because it will be way easier than winning against Liz. And Steve is kinda screwed no matter who he takes. Thats what he gets for letting Everyone on his HOH vote out Julia.

  18. Benzodiazepines for a sore neck? Are you kidding me? Did CBS employ Michael Jackson’s doctor or did he get on Vannasty’s payroll? This med list of hers…’s called polypharmacy, people, and she’s another Elvis Presley waiting to happen.

  19. Vanessa will take Steve. Steve is “acting” so happy that their SOS alliance has succeeded so that Van won’t suspect him of the sumbagging move he is planning just in case she beats him final HOH.

  20. I hope Vanessa wins part 3. She went from looking so weak by crying because she missed her girlfriend the night the feeds went live to playing one of the best strategic games ever. She was also really good in comps. She deserves to win it all!!!

    1. That was part of her strategy of making her seem like an authentic person, emotionally bonding with other house guests, establishing that she wasn’t there for the money, and testing how emotional she could get without the other house guests without turning other people off.

  21. There are 3 very different players in final 3 this year
    Vanessa: she controlled the HoHs and won comps, she also made many alliances to cover her bases. Though her being in the game has been a result of other players making mistakes, but there is no denying how well she played
    Steve: He played under the radar for the first half of the game, focusing more on not getting evicted then evicting others. Second half of the game he started making alliances and winning comps, the people he evicted didn’t make a big effect in the game though, but he is yet to be considered a target by anybody exept maybe liz because he got rid of Julia
    Liz: Liz probably has the smallest chance of winning because she was protected for most of the game, and in the final HoH when it really mattered couldn’t win a comp, what she does have going for her is two locked votes and a good chance of winning second place

    I personally would like to see Steve win because I like to cheer for the underdog, but Vanessa would win against anybody. I think Steve could beat liz so as long as Steve plans to take liz to final two, this seasons winner comes down to this final comp.

        1. This is the time when what others say don’t hold much power. People now vote how they want to without fear of being evicted for it. Most in the jury don’t seem to care what austin/julia have to say…

  22. If Vanessa throws final HOH to Steve and Steve then chooses to take Liz to final 2 on live TV Vanessa legit might jump from her seat across the coffee table and rip Steve’s head off

    1. Why do people keep talking about Vanessa throwing the final hoh? If you’ve been watching all season, do you honestly think there’s even .001% chance she would do that? No way.

      She does not trust Steve 100%. It’s obvious. Even Steve knows it.

  23. My argument as to why Johnny should not win AFHG. He never played his own game. He continually threw comps when told to. He offered to throw comps to keep a low profile. He spent all his spare time sleeping instead of cultivating his social game. He played the bafoon in dr sessions, probably directed by production to do so. When it came down to win or die…..he died. He put his game in Vanessa and Austin’s hands. He never took charge of his game..not in competitions…not socially… whatever strategy he might have had…he abandoned wjen he walked into the house. Yes, he won his way back in from jury….and then instead of taking charge…let Vanessa and Austin call his shots. Everyone tried to give him credit for forcing Vanessa’s hand in Austin’s eviction, the truth is that Vanessa called that shot herself. She told Johnny to do it that way.
    James played his own game and although he made a fatal mistake by not backing Becky, he at least was not afraid to “get blood on his hands”. He was likeable socially and didn’t hide and hibernate.
    James for AFHG.

    1. The problem with John’s strategy is that he was quickly grabbed as an expendable pawn. Then there wasn’t an alternate side to really partner up with so he was stuck doing what he was told. He then had to wait until something changed but by the time it did he was on the bottom no matter which group he sided with. When Donny and Nicole won HoH last year they still were in trouble because they couldn’t work with or trust anyone. Staying out of the crosshairs may carry you deep into the game but you are also very expendable and vunerable.

    2. Irrelevant. It’s America’s favorite, not America’s choice for best player. It makes no sense to tip the scales between the top two favorites based on strategic play.

    3. There are people that don’t want james nor john for AFP. Doesn’t matter what you think your reasons are for james to win, its an individual choice..not a group activity. You vote for who you want and the rest of us will vote for who we want..not who you think we should.

  24. Hahahaha, Vanessa will win Part-3 of the final HOH and will choose Liz to be in the final two with her. Steve will have a moral consolation…. and a stipend.

  25. Steve has to win Part 3. He then should take Liz. He has no choice. He is not stupid; he knows he can’t beat Vanessa. If Steve evicts Vanessa, it will be one of the most entertaining and exciting finales in BB history!

  26. If Steve wins the third hoh comp Van is going to have a total breakdown on live TV. They have had to edit a lot of her temper tantrums this year. She is a known to have breakdowns when things don’t go her way playing poker. She has terrible sportsmanship and I hope they have a straight jacket on hand if Steve wins and doesn’t take her. I have a feeling he will take Liz if he wins just to put the screws to Van. Van will take total credit for Steves game when talking to jury, so he should take Liz.

  27. Good thing the vote is for Favorite player not Best player.
    The two idiots that seem to be getting the most votes (remember to thank the editing department before you collect the cheque) would be doomed.

    1. At least all of the final three deserve to be there this year. They have all made major moves in the game and won multiple HOHs unlike the other years you’ve listed.

      1. That’s b/c this year, Vanessa was so paranoid about getting cut in favor of a lame floater once the ranks got thinned. Other HGs agreed, but I don’ think they would have followed through the way she did….evicting Julie over Liz, for instance. But it’s not a bad strategy to carry the Victorias to final 3. That’s why it’s happening more often in recent years, as players get more savvy. There’s pros and cons to doing it multiple ways. Steve used Vanessa as a meat shield, but not he faces being cut in the end. Derrrick did it best, having one loyal buddy and a weak player who was committed to him. It may be boring for us, but it’s the way to win.

  28. I would like to see James
    win AFHG. How many times will he see that kind of money compared to JMac? He was kind, funny, and entertaining. James could help his little girl so much with the winnings. He may never go to college or have the kind of nice things we all take for granted, but he would have the gift of knowing that he was liked by many, many people. This is just my opinion. Nothing against JMac. He seemed like a nice guy, too.

    1. Johnny has been my favorite all season so I will be voting for him. I think it will come down to one of the J’s for the award. I bet it will be close and not a run away like Donny last year.

    2. didn’t think we should chose our favorite player based on if they had a child or not..or if they didn’t pick a career that would pay them well. Don’t think AFP should be based on who needs the money more but based upon who we liked the best. Unless you know these people personally you never know if what they ‘claim’ is actually the truth, they could be trying to tug on peoples heart strings to get more money in case they don’t make F2. I didn’t find james entertaining at all, so, to me, he’s not my favorite player.

  29. it basically comes down to whoever is going to win this last HOH if Vanessa wins she is probably going to pick Liz over Steve and if Steve wins he is probably going to pick lives over Vanessa Liz does not have enough votes in geri nobody is going to vote for her Steve and Vanessa played a better game and if they’re going to be voting on game Vanessa or Steve arevprobably gonna win

  30. it basically comes down to whoever is going to win this last HOH if Vanessa wins she is probably going to pick Liz over Steve and if Steve wins he is probably going to pick liz over Vanessa…Liz does not have enough votes in jury & nobody is going to vote for her based on game cuz the twin twist pissed everyone off & the showmance is another minus…Steve and Vanessa played a better game and if they’re going to be voting on game Vanessa or Steve are probably gonna win….i believe Liz will get the 50 g’s Vanessa is a player she could care less about feelings she’s a diabolical poker face allllll dayyyyy!!!!!!

  31. Vanessa is gonna Win first place just wait on it….it’s in her cards that she played & it’s all manifesting…She will take Lizz to the Final & let her win the 50 gs cuz She took her to the concert & was her rider for most of this Crazy Game!!!

  32. Get rid of BB and start a new show that isn’t promoting drug use, production from the beginning who is going to win. This game us to be the best show to look forward to. They all got played and so did all of us. Hopefully this is the last season. Since the All Star’s season this show has sucked. It really is time to develop a show that you can look forward to watch. Bye bye CBS BB.

    1. If you find it so unbearable, why not save yourself some stress and watch something else? I have no real favorite this year, but I have found it very entertaining. I don’t think this is one of the best years, but it is not one of the wore either. The season with all the racial crap was horrible and quite frankly I thought the seasons with jeff and jordan were rather lame as well. …CLOWNSHOE!!!

  33. People vote for james for afp he has a kid and he is not rich. Jmac is a dentist and will get more opportunity if he gets or not. All becky fans you should vote for james he got robbed 5k and she has 10k. Cmon people jmac did not do what he had to do get rid of vanessa. I was pissed when he said to julie chen about getting rid of meg that was dumb gameplay and did not flip the votes. Vote for James today cmon people. He was entertaining in the feeds and the episodes. Jmac had good dr while he was boring in the feeds just sleeping.

    1. He needs the money more?
      Then maybe he should have been at home working and / or seeing his child instead of trying to get some for months on a tv program.
      If he needs the money so bad maybe he should have played the game better.
      Financial need?
      Have a bake sale and donate the proceeds to him.
      Take up a collection at your church, or write him a cheque from your own savings.
      It’s not like he’s on a news program as a survivor of a natural disaster that’s lost everything and needs your help. He’s on a reality tv show.
      Financial need shouldn’t even enter into the equation.
      I didn’t realize we were voting for America’s Favorite Charity Case.

    2. having a kid doesn’t mean you should win AFP, many parents who have kids aren’t that point is moot. He didn’t get robbed of the 5 grand, he chose the veto instead…his own fault. If he wanted/needed the money he should have picked it. I don’;t know why you think AFP is about who needs the money more…its about who you liked the best. thats like saying..I think steve needs the money more than VanASS or they should just let him have the money.

  34. So anyway there’s a little Brenchel on the way. Since they wanted to win a Crate and Barrel contest to pay for their dream wedding and she was whining on the Amazing Race that they needed to win so she could have a baby, does this mean they are going to hit up the. public to have a baby shower and furnish the. nursery? Cause if that’s the case they can name it Min if its a girl. or Opus if its a boy.

  35. I really want to see Van get evicted not only because she deserves it but because her meltdown would b so epic! That would make the finale so worth watching!

    1. I don’t think she’ll have a melt down. If Steve wins, I think she knows there’s a chance he’ll take Liz. She knows Steve isn’t stupid. He’s a superfan, and knows how the game works. So does she.

      I also think she’ll vote for who she feels played the best game out of the 2 and not be bitter in jury if that was to happen.

  36. Sorry to bust your bubble but james n meg will def not vote for steve period and have even said so. Steve more than likely comes in 2nd whoever he takes to f2. Also jackie doesnt like steve so he probablly doesnt get her bote as well.

    1. Eh, people feel differently once they leave the house. Especially since Liz isn’t exactly a fave of the goblins. Shes the sort to evoke cattiness in other women. Plus, Steve and James became friends. It’s not that obvious who they might vote for.

    2. That was said in the house where emotions run high..once in the jury house and they can unwind, they may feel differently. Every year you hear I will never vote for soNso to win, and what happens finale night? they vote for that person…so you never know.

  37. I get the feeling the same people saying “I hope Steve wins” are the ones that were calling him a rat and an idiot 1/2 way through the game. Probably the same people that were writing comments hoping Cody would win last season. Or the people that said I hope they take Victoria and the jury is bitter and crowns her the winner. Those people existed too. Cut and paste the names and we could just go back a year and rewrite the same comments. When is the last time the person that controlled the game the most wasn’t the most hated? Did you guys cheer when Ivette and Maggie cut Janelle at final three?
    I can’t say i understand the logic of not being able to seperate personal feeling about a hg from the analysis of the game. I don’t understand, but i’ll smile and nod.

  38. Don’t really care who wins just want to see Steve NOT take Vanessa. The look on her face would make an often unbareable seasonal finally watchable.

  39. I could probably type anything in here. Anything at all as long as i ended the comment with James or Jmac for AFP.
    Vanessa deserves to win.
    Damn, now everyone’s so confused which button to push.
    Give the reward to the editors.
    now the heads are spinning.

      1. Just a bad day for comment reading i think.
        Reading the hate mixed with a positive endorsement stapled to the end over and over seems to have pushed my bitter button. It’s not that i like Vanessa, because i don’t really. But i’m able to separate my dislike for the person from looking at the game as a spreadsheet. In looking at things that way: Vanessa does deserve the win. I may not like her, but i’m not going to cloud my judgement with subjectivity in order to ignore objectivity.
        The rabid hate is just a little much cumulatively. I’m not controlling my internal edit button well as a result.
        Don’t worry. I’m taking the night off.
        Though doses and mimosas does sound like a pleasant way to spend the evening.

  40. I hope that Vanessa doesn’t take part 3. I really don’t want to see her go to F2. I personally think she played the game as a huge bully. Then the constant crying, she is good at playing victim, i will give her that. Come one, she chooses to evict Austin and Liz has to comfort her because of her crocodile tears. I picture ‘crybaby’ after this is over going on and on about how she played such a respectable flawless game. Even her going on about how she has played with Integrity, give it a rest..if that is what she calls integrity, she is clueless. Liz/steve are the lessor of 2 evils, so hopefully steve will win round 3 and take Liz..(yes, I just want to see Vanessa cry all the way out to jury) Her eyes drove me nuts. Never trust anyone with shifty eyes. At least it’s not Austin in F3, got tired of him and liz talking about how they make great tv..rolls eyes. All he wanted was camera time. When they said that all of America is rooting for them to win, I couldn’t stop laughing. But I will say, I can’t wait to see what Austin thinks when he hears all the negative things Liz had to say about him over the season. Then again, Austin will have enough to deal with outside the house with the GF..woops ex-GF. I hope this is the last we will ever hear of Austin and his dream on being on BB to start up his dead wrestling career. He is just so self absorbed, it was great to see the look on his face when Vanessa evicted him..LOL. Looking forward to seeing steve win and take

  41. Eh, not exactly. Too many assumptions you’re making. People can recognize the more strategic player but not want him or her to win based on personal distaste for them. Why wish well on people you don’t care for? It’s not that deep, really. Personally, I don’t want to see such overtly aggressive play be rewarded with a win. It would maintain some semblance of balance for me if Vanessa were to get cut. A player of her sort should logically become a consistent target at some point. What seemed to tip the balance is that her particular brand of confrontation was intimidating to the point of deterring other players from talking to each other lest it get back to her. I just don’t want it to be possible for the logical to be superceded by some oddball force. Call me compulsive in my world view. I happened to be rooting for Steve and Jmac from the start.

    1. Is it just me?
      I guess i’m waiting to read the comments that say ‘Steve/Liz should win because he/she played the better game’ along with a description of their game points that back up their assertion. I’d love to read comments that assess the game itself.
      I don’t see very many (if any) of those.
      I see ‘I hope Steve wins because I hate Vanessa’ or’… because I hated Vanessa’s game’ without putting forth a case for what they have done better. I don’t hate any of their games. Everyone chooses how they will play the game, and if it gets them to the finals, they chose correctly. Whether by being heroic or villainous, they have achieved the objective.
      A real honest discussion or assessment of why their game makes them worthy of the win would be refreshing.
      Otherwise, it’s an argument based on subjectivity. I mean you no disrespect in saying this, I don’t know you. I just see that you point out what was wrong with her game, in your opinion, that means he should win instead of what was right with his game that should make him the winner. I appreciate your opinion of her game. I just wish you had also gone into detail about what makes his game worthy. I think I would have enjoyed reading that.

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