Part 1 Final HOH = Jackson
Part 2 Final HOH =
Part 3 Final HOH =
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8:56 am Everyone still sleeping.
Wake up at 9am fish then pound kittens until 10 am
10:10 am Final 3 Champaign breakfast
Nicole mentions how she didn’t do “that Great” in the Competition last night but says it was an amazing set.
J – That was an experience
H – that was one of the most fun things I’ve ever done in my life
N – like when in your life will you jump from rotating pilers
N – It was very nancy drew, Indiana jones-esic and I love it.
H – I felt like Laura Croft
J – you looked like Laura Croft. I say that to you all the time
H – I know. I was told that in the before that I was a country Laura croft
Nicole says they are the “bionic woman and man” adds that they looked like they were moving in “fast motion” and she was in “slow-motion”
N – they’re not your average people. I don’t know what the f* they are some kinda robot people
Jackson – we made it y’all. that’s a lot of black and white on there
H – it’s only our faces
H – wow wow wow wow wow
Holly and Nicole go on about how “it just makes sense”
N – what’s the one thing you’ll miss
H – always having people around. I’m ready to get back to silence but it’s really nice always having people around.
N – I’ll miss the voice over
J – I’m going to miss being off the grid
N – oh my god they’re going to hand me my cell phone. OKAY what do I do with this
H – I don’t remember my phone works
N – I’m trying to remember how I text
Holly says she has the IphoneX
Big Brother tells them “Big Brother loves you” and they freak out ..
They start talking about past events. Of Course, Christie comes up and how she would say “I manifest it” They tell Nicole all the things Christie agreed to the week Sis was evicted.
Nicole says she had no idea about Sis’ opinion of her.
N – I respect Jack a lot because he didn’t blow smoke (ZOMGS)
Nicole explains that when Jack was on the block he never offered her anything to stay. SHe respects that instead of him feeding her Bull sh1t.
N – He was a straight shooter about it so I don’t really know what he thought of me
Jackson thinks that the second competition will be Tomorrow.
They also speculate that tomorrow will be special visitor and part 2 competition will be Monday.
11:00 pm Snuggling and Chit chat
J – 5 days
N – it’s 6 .. 5 and 3/4ths
11:41 pm 89.3% of Holly this season
12:00 – 1:30 pm Pound Puppies
12:48 pm Feeds come on for about 15 minutes. They got to see videos from home. Holly talks about seeing some dogs ones called Levi
12:36 pm Jackson video brought some emotions. He cries but hides it under his hat. Says I’m sorry momma.
1:33 pm Zzzzzzzz
2:51 pm zzzzzz
4:30 pm Jackson suggests to Nicole they make the Curry and Chicken.
J – if you want some I would be happy to make some for you
6:51 pm Drinking Kraken
7:50 pm
5pm – 5:20pm The camera operators are getting bored.
5:50pm Nicole, Holly and Jackson play card games in the bathroom.
7:10pm – 7:55pm The final 3 are all laying / sleeping on bathroom. couches.
7:56pm Jackson’s playing cards.
8pm – 9:05pm Holly cooking. Jackson and Nicole playing chess. Jackson heads down to help cook.
9:13pm They sit down to eat and cheers to being final 3. They reminisce about past events of the season.
10:22pm 11pm The final 3 in the living room. Nicole – I was just saying to the cameras today.. I am the sole survivor from the RV. Michie is the sole survivor from the target room. And you the sole survivor of the backyard room. We were all from the first group. Its amazing!
11:50pm Jackson playing solitaire. Holly’s in the diary room. Nicole is sleeping.
6:11 am ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Noon Feeds on fire until HOH part 2.
1:20 pm
2:58pm The final 3 are still waiting around for the HOH part 2 to start.
4:53pm – 5:12pm The house guests are doing their tie dye tshirts & socks. Nicole was tired of waiting for the HOH comp.
6:35pm Still no HOH comp yet
6:44pm Big Brother blocks the feeds. Part 2 of the HOH competition has started..
8:55pm Nothing yet..
9:53pm The feeds are still blocked..
For good times
Jackson pissing #BB21 pic.twitter.com/zcFBf4TE7F
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“I respect Jack a lot because he didn’t blow smoke.”
Okay, remind me what I said about Nicole’s ability to read other players?
And I thought Cliffie was her only blind spot.
Not a bad looking breakfast. Is that a Calico-Tiger mix? I understand they’re one of Jackson’s favorites.
How will this last week work without Cliff telling Nicole what to do?
Well apparently she has launched an assault of snippy innuendo aimed at undermining Jackson’s spirit hence impacting his play. You have to admit, that worked out real well for them when she wanted to basically backdoor Jackson.
A real competitor would have just dug in his heels, psyched himself up and swept the veto to save himself…and we all saw that that didn’t happen.
I doubt that “her” game of continuing “Cliff’s” bitterness will phase Jackson in the slightest.
That is Nicole’s problem. She has never had an original thought in her life.
One of the other sites showed a picture of the HOH Part 2 set and said it was a mental comp so that should be to Nicole’s advantage.
What really disappoints me was I was trying to imply that Jackson likes to eat live kittens for breakfast.
“Not a bad looking breakfast. Is that a Calico-Tiger mix? I understand they’re one of Jackson’s favorites.”
I was hoping to start a new trending accusations against him.
“Well I read on another forum where he likes to take cute little kittens and bite their heads off and that’s just for breakfast. For lunch he likes to eat live puppies.”
Jack did think of her as an early out, therefore not necessary to interact with all that much. Since earliest days, Nicole’s tagline was that she was a straight shooter. I think that his last ditch effort to garner votes to stay was tailored to what he thought she would want to hear. Her conclusion of Jack’s personna was his read of what would appeal to her.
Seems he read and played her very well.
Well she voted him out and he went, so I’m not so sure who read and played whom in that particular case.
Granted, not played nearly as well as Cliff played her.
@Swaggie you def dont like Nicole or at the very least just want Holly and Jackson to win. My biggest problem with H and J is that they are the sort of player that are huge liars ( like a lot of people in this game) and then they preach about how honest and upstanding they are and give excuses why they play the way they do. Jackson also doesn’t need to rub salt in peoples ruins by making sure he tries to humiliate them in speeches ect. He was playing a game he wanted to win just play it and say it that’s fine and ok . There are also plenty of past players( Paul )that played a better game than the person they sat next to who won but they took it to such an arrogant step that people would rather vote for that person who really didn’t have the $hit. That is also apart of the game. I also feel like Nicole is doing the best she can being locked up in a house with someone she now knows has been faking compassion and friendship that would last outside the house just for a win. That’s hard because you figure the amount of down time that they spend together that some of them really do get to know each other. To realize that some of them are faking it and to the level that some of them take ( Jackson laying on her telling her he hopes she feels better, Jackson saying she is like a little sister love ya all that stuff ) Really is not ok and I doubt he will really talk to the 3 much after. So swaggie you are either a family member or production.
“My biggest problem with H and J is that they are the sort of player that are huge liars ( like a lot of people in this game) and then they preach about how honest and upstanding they are and give excuses why they play the way they do.”
That does sound familiar. Let me think a moment…yep, exactly the same thing Cliffie and Nicole have been doing also. Yes, I know…but they’re not Jackson and Holly.
Maybe Cliff but Nicole did not do that… I think she was more upset because she started really believing Jacksons BS and thought he was a very nice guy and then he corrected her. She seemed more upset that she almost bought it and that she promised Cliff that she would go along with him on the Tommy thing. She was upset because she went against her better judgment but she never made the promises Cliff did. She was also only really mad because she is tired of people like Jackson not considering her real competition and hated that Jackson again was taking her as a fool and trying to BS her.
“She was also only really mad because she is tired of people like Jackson not considering her real competition and hated that Jackson again was taking her as a fool and trying to BS her.”
Whereas Cliff took her as a gullible minion that he could keep under control and use to take the final bullet for him to get to F2…but he wasn’t taking her as a fool or trying to bullshit her?
Okay, I’ll give you that he wasn’t “trying” to bullshit her…he “was” bullshitting her.
You hit it on the nail my friend
She also chastised him (just yesterday) for how he spoke to her early in the game telling her “enjoy your last few days here” or how condescending he was to her.
Consider the place & time she made the above comments — during a remembrance, celebratory breakfast. (READ: likely to be aired on national TV). I’m sure all three were cognizant of that & mostly making positive comments (perhaps other than about Christie). Besides that comment was said with a bit of cheekiness/sass (I’m with Another Name I think it was a complement painted with a bit of sass).
Well, I hope she “enjoys her last few days there”.
But hey, if you guys are right you do realize that means one thing…she is still clinging to Cliff’s game instead of playing her own.
I don’t understand the correlation to Cliff (????)
Honest question —- Would I be correct in assuming the only person remaining in the house you believe is deserving, played their own game without assistance & can get behind is Jackson?
I ask b/c for as much as my preference would be a F2 of Nicole vs. Jackson I can look at each of the players remaining and see positives & negatives in their games. I respect your choice/opinion even when we differ, I’m just curious.
“Would I be correct in assuming the only person remaining in the house you believe is deserving, played their own game without assistance & can get behind is Jackson?
No, you would be completely incorrect.
I do believe that Jackson has played the best game by far. If he wins, he wins.
I do believe that Holly has played a far better game then the Harpies give her credit for; that she aligned with a strong physical player with some decent game smarts was a decision that has worked for her. If she wins, she wins.
Nicole hasn’t played much game herself. She allowed herself to be controlled almost completely by Cliff. She’s on her own now and still playing his game. If she wants to spend her last few days in a game she says she loves, being bitter and making snippy little comments, that’s on her. Or she could actually start playing Nicole’s game for once and trying to force an F2 from within the house. If she wins, she wins. And if she looks back on this experience with regret, that’s on her.
Swaggie – Nicole is (and has been) playing HER own game. For some reason you refuse to acknowledge that or give her any credit. If you took all 3 HG remaining and gave them 15 minutes to outline their strategy of playing BB21, you may be surprised that Jackson & Nicole could fill the total time. Holly did a lot too but IMHO not as much as other two. Congrats to all three for making it this far!
Playing her own game? Being played by Cliff for his own game is more like it. Every move they made, orchestrated by Cliff, was designed to keep his other F2 alive and safe and she blindly went along with it even to the final betrayal by Cliff blew up his game and put her right in the middle of it. Even when Cliff threatened to withhold his vote, he also claimed her vote to withhold as well; without her permission and without correction by her…he could speak confidentially in controlling her vote.
Yes, congrats to all three for not just making it here, but for making out of it what they will.
Holly allowed herself to be controlled by Jackson. One example was Jackson telling her to throw it NOW (and seemingly getting angry) during Final 4 HOH. Her not being HOH that week helped Jackson’s game, as you know. There are other examples throughout the game, too numerous to list here.
nicole did a really good job of flying under the radar. she was only on the block once the entire season and was rarely even considered as a nom. that actually takes some doing when most people in her spot would be perennial pawns.
She wasn’t considered because people didn’t even know she was in the house. Her threat level color is pink.
which considering that cliff, jess, and bella all blew up alliances with her in separate instances and she only ended up on the block once is actually insanely impressive.
I don’t think this means she was playing Cliff’s game. She and Cliff were equal partners since the beginning. Cliff betrayed her to further himself by making the final 2 with Jackson. She would have never been able to convince him to go her way. That eventually put his game in the toilet, not hers. Overall, I think Nicole is a smart player. She played like someone who knows the game, not someone whose primary concern was getting air time. She wasn’t a threat in competitions, but she was a swing vote. The other houseguests were compelled to keep her around for both reasons. Then she won competitions to keep herself safe in the end, when it mattered most.
Someone who knows the game?
– taking a romance to final two
– not getting rid of the biggest comp threat in the house; twice
– not keeping a potential ally with a fair comp record (who by the way was cheerleading the attacks on her early on)
– not stopping to wonder why her trusted friend was pushing her to do something so utterly and completely stupid….hmmm, just whose interest would be keeping Jackson, someone Cliffie has been massaging for many weeks, benefit…let me think…hmmmm? Okay, let’s keep Jackson!
i don’t know why you hate nicole so much. she really expertly navigated avoiding the block despite never being in the majority alliance and having several of her alliances blown up, and she didn’t need comp wins to do it nor did she play much of a float game. she was really good at deflecting attention from herself and i don’t see how taking a showmance to the end is bad when she knew tommy’s secret relationship with christie, which was far far worse, while holly is just terrible on house trivia. all nicole needs to do is get to the end with holly and she wins. the only hole i see in her game was getting rid of jess at seven, but it’s so hard just to get to six that i think pushing hard for tommy/christie as nominees that week instead of christie/jess could have really backfired and once it was cliff/jess, i get keeping cliff.
“i don’t know why you hate nicole so much.”
LOL! No, I don’t hate her game…I’m finding Cliff’s revenge to be amusing.
You all are missing one very important component to everyone’s game play….production!! They are the only ones playing the game. The people are just their game pieces. It’s chess not checkers!!!!
Exactly…the shadowy TPTB, first cousins to the Illuminati and the Build-A-Burgers.
Like I said, Nicole would have never been able to convince Cliff to break up the showmance and keep Tommy. She tried, but Cliff was hell-bent on getting rid of Tommy, because he thought Tommy would bring Nicole to final 2. Cliff thought his final 2 deal with Cliff would be honored. That was Cliff’s mistake, not Nicole’s. I thought she should have gotten rid of Jackson in the double eviction, but Nicole told Jackson that she was honoring their final four deal. There were still people in the house who were working against her. She broke up the Christie/Tommy duo because they weren’t working with her. As far as your fourth point goes, you’re saying Nicole should have either been a psychic or watching the diary room sessions.
She won competitions in the end only because most of the house guest were evicted and floaters were left. She could never be considered a competition beast. She is a sore loser. Being final 3 is a big deal, stop and smell the roses. Once in a lifetime bask in the glory. You will never come this way again.
Exactly. She claims that she is a huge fan.
When she gets out and discovers just how Cliff used her, how she allowed him to use her, she “should” be very disappointed. I wonder how she’s going to remember her last days in the house, when she could have been enjoying them, not seething with Cliff’s bitterness.
I feel the only competition she might have won was that Veto. Both HOH’s were given to her, first by Cliff, second by Holly.
How does your boy Jackson even get where he is without his huge alliance that backed him, he doesnt! Look at his goodbye message to Cliff that pretty much sums up his social game and strategy! Lets piss of the jurors who are voting for a winner! Big Brother isnt only abt winning comps and that’s a fact its abt strategy and social game, jury managrment why do u think Kaycee beat Tyler cuz of her social and jury management skills on top of comp wins and her alliance…. That’s what seperate’s the good from the great players which Jackson is a good player but Not great! Tyler won lots of comps too but didnt win Big Brother!
Jelly squared.
LOL! His “huge alliance”? Do you mean the alliance that turned on him and targeted him early on?
Holly “aligned” with Jackson. Is that what the kids are calling it these days? I’m waiting for Momma Jackson to say “hello, hussy”.
Don’t be so upset. I’m sure you’ll find someone to align with…or whatever the kids are calling it when it happens.
Holly allowed Jackson to treat her like crap, and kept… um let’s just say “sharing the shower stool” with him. He never treated her as an equal and never thought she could win. If she does win, I hope she uses some of the money for therapy.
Yes, the need for therapy is quit apparent. Good for Holly she’s probably going to have first place or second place to pay for any if she so believes she needs it. The others in serious need of therapy…well, you’re on their own.
One could argue that holly was playing Jackson’s game and not her own
God bless Michie. I cannot believe the haters here.
The guy has done it all AND has had a side of Holly all season.
Nobody has played a better game. And you jellys know it.
Go Michie, bring the money to momma babyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
High you…I do believe I met your brother, Heyyou. We had different classes together.
If you read an earlier thread – there are people who see these comments not as statements of fact but more her strategy to get under Jackson’s skin. Nicole is smart, give her some credit.
Yes, I have seen the other comments. Some people believe that she completely misread Jack the same way she completely misread Cliff before putting her game and blind trust in his hands.
Some people believe that she is still playing Cliff’s game of bitterness and making snippy little innuendos that are supposed to mean something? Get under his skin? And how would snippy innuendo get under his skin more than needing to fight for the F4 veto to save himself?
Nicole is smart? She allowed Cliff to build himself a safe option of two final twos; never questioning him. She allowed him to convince to vote against her instincts without thinking the implications through and who it would benefit (Cliff) and when he blew it up she stated that he deserved to be F3 more than her; playing for him, not for herself.
I am giving her credit. Due credit.
@Swaggie’s Missing Brow,
Your screen name may be terrible (Not a Swaggy C fan) but you are my favorite poster this season. You do a really good job of making good points while also being funny. Bravo!
Why thank you Sleepy, but I do hope you’re wearing flame retardant underwear.
As for Swaggy, I’m not a fan either. That bi#@h went out and got a transplant to replace me. And I’m not even going to tell you where the hair came from. Let’s just say, he’s always been a butt head.
And for the record, I’m the one who called it quits and left him; no matter what he says. I’d also like to send a shout out to a couple of new friends, Cliffi’s MIssing Nads, Left and Right.
Agreed , this guy is really smart IMO. I wouldn’t want to go up against him in an argument.
That sums of the season. Jackson urinating down his leg while looking like a stuffed thanksgiving turkey.
And blowing out his o-ring.
Simon,
Will part two take place tomorrow?
Not sure but I think so.
Don’t feeds go down for a few days at the end? When?
And are you looking forward to that?
I bet those kittens miss Nicole.
They’re crying out mommy. Where are you?
I watch the live feeds and hear Jackson and Holly saying she plays her own game. But the only one I know if is voting out Kat. The rest of the time she did what Jackson wanted, did miss something or am I wrong about Holly?
You do realize that Nicole did whatever Cliffie told her 100% of the time?
I beg to differ. Remember when she told Jess about the new six alliance Cliff was pitching (Christie/Tommy/Nick/Cliff/Sis & her) that she wanted NO PART of? That was the week Cliff was on the block beside Kat & Nicole was considering shaking things up by getting Holly/Jackson/Jess & her to vote to keep Kat instead.
If she hadn’t been called to the DR right at that minute, Jess hadn’t gone temporarily insane & blown up that information to the entire house & Kat/Jess hadn’t told her that her family/kids in school would HATE HER if she voted out Kat that could’ve been a big shift. The point is Nicole always considered her options including cutting Cliff that week but the trio of above events circumvented that decision.
She told the F4 last week about it & said to Cliff “this will upset you – but I own it”. It also demonstrated to Holly/Jackson SHE had their best interest at heart while Cliff was working both sides & doing what he always did (constantly making deals to improve HIS position).
Cools, so she’s actually tied with Holly when it comes to making her own decisions and playing her own game.
You’d do real well in the BB house… Inflexible, condescending, tunnel visIon.
Thank you.
Well Nicole did have a thought process, even if I didn’t always agree with it. Holly’s only thought seemed to be keeping a man who treats her badly. Even voting to evict Kat was jealousy over Jackson screwing Kat first this summer.
Nicole’s thought process was “Great idea Cliff.”
She was given her last hoh. Didn’t earn it.
For a total of two gifted…and the second one was ticking.
nicole generally did what kept her off the block and off people’s radar. cliff cut stupid deals that people only “honored” cuz they were going after bigger targets anyway. nicole’s game was less overt (and less stupid) than cliff’s and though their objectives frequently overlapped, especially at the end, i wouldn’t call nicole’s game the same as cliff’s. nicole put up christie because she thought it was a good move, cliff voted that way because of the deal.
He dragged her along like a gorilla clutching a stuffed chimp dolly.
Go Nicole!!! Win Hoh#2. Don’t let Holly win.
You broke a record for the bb comics. Go for the win. The jury will give it to you. You just have to win this next hoh and the final hoh.
They would have to give it to her because she sure didn’t earn it.
I think if she wins part 2 she has a good chance against Jackson in the 3rd comp. It would be close.
Holly won.
In the ‘respect Jack, he was a straight shooter, didn’t blow smoke and offer me fake deals’ comments: Am I the only one that thought wow, that’s some hearty passive aggressive. Am I the only one that thought she was making a subtle deniable dig?
Yes
I thought he didn’t offer anything to Nicole because he had absolutely no respect for her or her game.
Jack was there while Nicole was one of the bottom feeders and also was fired up when they went after her. I don’t recall him spending much time with bottom feeders.
I made reference to it earlier, but it bears repeating: Jackson made the comment (about Nicole) that it was only in the context of the Big Brother house that he would ever be in social contact with “a girl like that.” “Normally, a girl like that wouldn’t get to talk to me.” He expressed the sentiment that she must feel really lucky to be able to have this kind of contact with the attractive people in the house. Ugh…
Wow, thanks. She really sucked at reading people. Come to think of it, look at her read on Kat and Jess.
Oh well, I guess her smokeless impression of Jack just fits the pattern, and might explain her inability to read smoke screen Cliff.
You seriously need a hug. You have so much hate for Nicole it must give you physical pain to know she made it to the top 3 this season because you cant find a single nice thing to say about her and you comment on every post. Take a deep breath, let it out slowly and try to relax… because tomorrow.. she might win part 2 and I know its going to hurt you if she does. If she doesnt, I think she will be able to accept it more than you will if she does.
LOL! Really butter. It seems you have Nicole’s talent for reading people.
He has his nose so far up Jackson’s bleeding kiester he’s spitting watermelon seeds.
LOL! I prefer my watermelon fresh. I see you like your grapes sour.
She outlasted the lot of them and had the stones to put Christie and Tommy in the block.
And how did those stones work out…when she let Cliffie tell her they weren’t going to evict Tommy?
If they didn’t vote together your boy would’ve evicted him. That’s not the same as she followed Cliff.
She was stoneless. Cliff told her to put up the Dynamic Duo.
Dude…what the hell are you watching? You seem to think that winning comps = great game. Nicole has played a great game socially and has won when she needed to. You’re going to look like a fool when she wins next Wednesday
The only thing she is going to win is favorite player. Maybe they will let he keep that bucket hat too.
I thought Jack made the comment that outside of the house girls like Nicole would never get to talk to guys like him. He was nice to look at until he opened his mouth and started talking. Such an arrogant jerk.
I’m 99.9% sure that was Jack that actually said that.
It was but we cannot allow anything to get in the way of a good anti-Jackson rant.
Well you’re still here…
I find Nicole much more attractive -in personality, kindness, empathy – than Holly, Jackson or many of the other houseguests. Looks aren’t everything. I would much rather be around Nicole than either of the other 2.
Thanks for your input Nicole’s Mom.
Not her mom… but I am a mom… happy my kids don’t hang out with people based on looks.
I honestly don’t want to be around any of them! Not a single one!
Jack said that… not Jackson
No, imo it wasnt because Jack didn’t respect Nicole’s game, its because Nicolewasn’t cool and/or pretty enough to hang out with him.
And still isn’t. As a friend someone should give her a heads up that she looks like she is living under a bridge with that hat.
Jack made the comment that Nicole would do what they wanted because she’s not use to people “like him” talking to her? I know he said something like that. So you’re correct, he had zero respect for her.
Yeah, girls like Nicole don’t get to talk to guys like Jack(ass)
Probably because they don’t want to talk to A-holes
I thought she played for the girls team.
You are not alone. Very passive aggressive from ‘Cole and gag worthy.
I’m glad someone else saw it as NIcole making a subtle Jackson comparison that she was saying to his face without actually saying it directly. I thought maybe I was reading in. She’s been dropping more blatant ones to his face lately using maybe it’s real maybe i’m joking tone. Makes me gag far less than the unicorn stuff.
…Am I the only one that thought she was making a subtle deniable dig?…
No, you’re not the only one who thought that. It worked on a couple of levels: 1) Jackson looks up to Jack 2) J&J would have played BB21 as bro’s to the end. By Nicole saying this it inferred that Jack was a better player and his game would have been more respectable. Jackson won’t admit it but he knows he is a bully.
If Nicole loses part 2 she’s done. She appears on finale night while the jury is in their chairs? Julie asks them who do you think you’ll see next. Nicole comes out and punches Cliff in the GUT. Cliff’s GUT. I HATE YOU. Nicole: I trusted my gut this entire game and the first time I trusted Cliff’s gut and look what happened. Nicole just take it out of Cliff’s gut. One, two!!!!! lol haha
LOL! And just before she arrives, Crusty will hold her temples and tell everyone she senses…something approaching…something…pi$$ed.
lol Her senses are way off, i don’t sense Tommy’s energy at all and he walks right in. I bet she gets it right this time because COMMON SENSE tells you the odds are Nicole will end up in third place are extremely high. You don’t have to be a psychic to forecast that.
Kristy has no senses – or sense.
100% all Nicole’s fault. She knew what had to be done and didn’t do it.
She allowed Cliff’s bias for Jackson sway her. She needed to stand firm but she didn’t. She had the correct logical thought process but didn’t follow through. If you go back and watch she had one of those moments where people want to do both but then they choose the wrong choice because someone else is leading them in another direction. They have this reaction where they get frustrated, you see them frustrated they want to go with their logical choice but they also want to satisfy someone’s else choice. IT USUALLY DOESN’T END WELL.
Nicole had no option in the Tommy vote. If she went ahead and voted out Holly like she felt she should have (and should have done in my opinion) Cliff definitely would have voted out Tommy leaving a tie for Jackson to break. Cliff was never going to vote how she wanted and either way Tommy was leaving. At that point the only thing she could do was cut her losses and try and redeem herself in the final four so she was completely alienated. The stupidest part for me was Holly throwing that comp and whining about it. She kept saying it was her comp to win but truth be told they all say it. We will never really know if she would have won and took herself to final three!
I’m not sure it would have been much different.
But if Nicole wins part two she has a 50% chance of winning the game. People are not going to vote Holly to win and anyone can win the part three which is always just questions.
You do realize that Holly has had a very social connection to most of the jury? Far stronger than either Jackson or Nicole…and I don’t believe any amount of campaigning by Cliffie will help.
Holly knows them, hung out with them non-stop the first half of game.
Nicole has to win Part 2 and 3. She really did take the tough road if she’s going to win.
She just wanted to make it more sporting.
Oh puhlease Beth…the “country” Laura Croft?
which country?
Zanadu
I think Beth added the “ry” herself.
If Nicole doesn’t win part 2 she’s done and has no-one to blame but herself and cliff. BB101 always break up the couples, they had they chance to backdoor Michie during the DE but instead they got rid of Christie who sucks at comps, then they had the chance to vote out Holly and Cliff talked Nicole into keeping her over Tommy which was a stupid move and now she has to deal with those consequences.
The last two seasons round two comps were combination endurance/memory. The Mt. Evictus (the rock climbing wall) and the castle crossbow thing where they had to shoot targets…with a lot of running, including stairs.
Nicole is expected to have an edge in a memory challenge, but she has hurt her knee (I’ve no idea how bad). Round one was an endurance/puzzle, with puzzle’s also being considered an edge to Nicole but Holly beat her.
Given an endurance/memory challenge, IF BB follows the previous two years, their individual strengths might tend to balance out the competition…and the condition of Nicole’s knee could play a factor.
Part 1 was PRIMARILY physical (mostly running, swinging from ropes). They had to collect (I think 25 puzzle pieces). Therefore Nicole only had an edge if she could keep up for the physical portion of the game – Since she only got 8 pieces across (compared to Jackson’s 25 & Holly’s 23?) her edge didn’t exist. Although she did also say she couldn’t figure out the puzzle, but maybe that’s b/c she didn’t have enough puzzle pieces across to see how it went together.
I’ll reserve saying definitively it wasn’t her comp until I see it but it sure sounds like it was the type of comp Jackson would kill & the ropes portion being suited to Holly.
We also can’t project what the comp will be based on previous seasons as per Comprehension’s post (page prior):
Last few season physical comps in the endgame (week 8 and onward) per Taran:
BB17: 17%
BB18: 15%
BB19: 33%
BB20: 55%
BB21: 61% (so far)
Given these stats the assumption would be it’s beyond time for a dates related puzzle/comp that even with her sore knee would suit Nicole. BUT – they’ve dramatically increased the physical comps the past 2 years & this season they’ve done so much differently who knows. If it’s another ropes/endurance/physical they want Holly/Jackson playing part 3 (and in F2), if it’s isolated strictly on dates they want Nicole/Jackson & the drama of the unknown.
Yes, it must have been PRIMARILY physical, Jackson and Holly must have just comp beasted that part of it and not thought about it; they were talking about how hard the puzzle was. If Nicole couldn’t handle either the physical or the puzzle, yes, her advantage is non-existent.
Interesting. I just read where Jackson and Holly are talking about the comp…and wished it had been an endurance comp so they could have followed through with their original plan. I guess their assessment of what type of comp it was is way different. Well maybe they’ll get an endurance comp yet.
I can’t wait to see how the next two rounds play out…or as some say, how TPTB have decided the next two rounds will play out.
Go TPTB!
She also could have put up Jackson when she won her 1st hoh. Christie wasn’t winning any comps and wasn’t a bigger threat.
Cliff soon steered her right.
You’re right Crunch. Nicole is toast.
Lara Croft has self confidence…
and a spine.
But no dragons.
Holly has make-up…
and a stool.
She looks pretty in the pic above. Someone needs to tell her her clown makeup face isn’t working.
I know it’s been said before , but Holly is much prettier and looks her age instead of older without all that make up.
I do believe it has been said before…along with a lot of other things such as her looking in her forties was it?
I find some women do look better with less or little makeup, but the choice is theirs. If they’re happy with it whom am I to tell them different?
This is the comment about it being an observation. Hope I got the cleared up for you. I was a little surprised you replied and quoted what I had said days ago. Do you keep a copy of all the comments that don’t trash Nicole ?
Bitter much? Take it easy on the dude. He is missing a brow.
Hahaha. He just keeps going and going
Make-up
It’s either some or a lot for most women.
Holly has been in the pagent circuit, a dancer, host of a Youtube show, participated as various paid presentors, a tour guide of sorts, etc. Sadly, her makeup helps define her identity.
There’s also probably a routine comfort element to it also. I did smoke a pipe for many years. I still puff a pipe now (no inhale). Just the routine of blending tobaccos, maintaining the pipes, selecting a pipe, preparing it just right, smoking/puffing, cleaning the pipe…just comfortable routines that my hands do almost automatically.
Lots and lots of makeup lathered on pancake thick….gross.
She seems like a nice girl but she’s an attention whore.
Well, at least she has the nice going for her. The harpies? Not so much.
Has Holly ever stopped to realize that she’s playing a game for 1/2 million?? She KNOWS she’ll lose to Jackson. But at least she has a chance against Nicole. So basically, she’s unapologetic about losing to Jackson. Its that decision ALONE that will make the jury disrespect her game. Who takes the strongest player to finale??!! Oh, yeah. Tyler!
If jury is salty and this one is, plus Christie who is stirring the pot so yes Mitchell May get 2nd place to anyone so why not it’s a sure bet
Does she know that she’ll loose to Jackson?
She had a very strong social connection to a lot of the jurors in that house and as a lot of people keep saying, his jury management isn’t great.
No one has any clue as to whether she intends to play to the jury and go for the gold or not. Her best bet, go with Jackson…she knows where she stands with him and the jury.
I don’t know why you don’t realize Holly is going to win this game she has Nicole cliff Tommy Christina cat Jess and sis
Nobody who votes for Holly to win this game would ever be invited back.
And as viewers we care…why? I hope they meld back into anonymity quickly.
Now you’re learning, BUT…it is okay to call her by a salty name. In fact, it’s approved.
Then I hope they all vote for Holly and we won’t ever see any of them again….if that’s what it takes lol.
Jackjaw has pissed off too many jurors….otherwise it’s a slam dunk.
I still don’t get why people have to pick on those with things they can’t help. What is he supposed to do, get jaw surgery?
I think you just about have it nailed. Against Jackson, Holly would have Cliff and Nicole, Tommy and Christie (because of what Jackson did to Tommy), and Jess because she’s a female. That’s five and that’s enough. But I also think she would have Nick (although that’s debatable) and Kat (Holly’s friend). That’s seven with Nick being the only real “iffy” one. I think Jack goes for Jackson. I think Sis wants to go for Holly, but is so enamored with Jack, she may be influenced by him to vote for Jackson. So best case for Holly is an 8-1 win and worst case is a 6-3 win, and the same look on Jackson’s face that we saw on Paul’s face two season’s ago. You’ll notice there has been NO talk of Holly winning inside the house, only Jackson, because in his eyes he’s already got it won and the other two are unworthy (or at least that’s my take on the situation – Jackson is arrogance personified).
I usually like to see the best competitor win, but I also like to see good clean game play. This season we had competitors that didn’t seem to want to win, or were unable to, and a lot of dirty dealing by a lot of different people. For that reason, I really don’t care who wins as none of the finalists are my personal favorites. I say let the fur fly on finale night and we might get some actual entertainment out of this season.
Holly is pretty much set in the position Cliff was maneuvering for; in the middle of two F2s and has a very good social connection with most of the jury. I don’t see her not getting either first or second place.
That’s a bold prediction SMB, given we pretty much know Nicole is taking Holly if she wins the final HOH as is Jackson. Hard to not get first or second in that situation.
I don’t think it’s so much Holly’s good social connection to the jury that will get her the win, but Jackson’s poor “jury management”/dirty game play/arrogance that will cost him in the end. I feel really strongly about the Cliff and Nicole votes, the Tommy and Christie votes (despite what Tommy said about respecting the game play – I don’t think he did and I think Christie backs him up 100%), and I’m pretty damn sure when push comes to shove Jess will stick with her FEMALE POWER position, she has been espousing the whole season and vote for Holly. I think Kat too is a solid Holly vote over the guy who used her THREE TIMES and dumped her in the first week of the game, not to mention her friendship with Holly outside of the game.
The rest don’t even matter. That’s six and more than enough. Is there a cogent argument against those six votes for Holly?
Well you know Christie and Jess will only vote for a woman to win.
Definitely Jess, not sure about Crusty.
She’s unfortunately a doormat for Jackjaw.
As opposed to the floor mate for Cliff?
I read on another site that Holly’s dad wasn’t in her video. Hmmm I wonder why ?? I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with two adults having sex, but not when you have an audience. I imagine he could be mortified. Has there been another season when so many showmances had sex on live feeds ? Can Holly be dumb enough to believe the cameras move away ? I wish Big Brother did some type of reunion show , so we could find out how they really feel. I would like to hear Holly’s take when she finds out Jackson lied to her about the cameras. Also there was something said about Jackson’s Mama , but not sure what that was about.
Did I tell you about Tyler when he was asked if he had read any of the ugly comments about Angela? His reply was there are a lot of jealous people out there.
Wow you are really fixated on holly. You hate her, we get it. You’re a one trick pony.
I finding it truly amazing. I don’t watch all that much TV but I do watch Big Brother usually. For the life of me, I cannot imagine why anyone would watch an “entertainment” show that gives them so much distress, anger and borderline hatred. Are blood pressure medication corporations secretly behind reality TV? (I’m not singling you out Jan Nan, I’m talking about all the viewers for all the reality game shows who get so emotionally involved as to feel the need to personally attack people.)
And the people who come on these shows to become quasi-celebrities; what are they thinking?
Pot meet kettle. Any comment about nicole you respond on and rip her incessantly.
Not to mention his intense hatred of Cliff.
I hope you are going to be ok when jackson sends the cat lady packing.
Manifested.
I’m far from obsessed with any reality show. I love Big Brother since the first season and there’s always some you like more than others. I watch and read OBB and one other site because I don’t have the feeds, never have. It’s my summer guilty pleasure. I believe you and I are pulling for different houseguest and that’s the way it goes. It doesn’t bother me at all when I get a thumbs down for my comment. It would be boring if we all liked the same ones.
Haha I don’t hate her, I don’t hate anyone so your comment is a little comical to me. It’s an observation, and that’s all. I think she looks younger without and older with that’s all. No hatred. There’s always houseguest I like more than other just like everyone else on here.
Yes, tortured questions regarding fathers who may or may not have been included in a photo according to a website, wondering if her father is mortified, wishing that BB had a reunion show so “we’d know how they feel”…all just an observation.
I see time spent lying on a couch talking to a man with a hand puppet in someones future.
Get over it. I was talking about I think Holly looks younger without all the make up. That’s not hating just an observation.
I’m sorry Nan, my reading comprehension is sometimes slow. Could you please point me to that part of…
I read on another site that Holly’s dad wasn’t in her video. Hmmm I wonder why ?? I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with two adults having sex, but not when you have an audience. I imagine he could be mortified. Has there been another season when so many showmances had sex on live feeds ? Can Holly be dumb enough to believe the cameras move away ? I wish Big Brother did some type of reunion show , so we could find out how they really feel. I would like to hear Holly’s take when she finds out Jackson lied to her about the cameras. Also there was something said about Jackson’s Mama , but not sure what that was about.
…I can’t seem to find the makeup reference.
Mic drop!
Nah, swaggie’s confused. I think he tripped over the mic and hit his head. Lol. Just kidding. I better make it clear it’s a joke or he will come after me aaagain.
I replied to Don’t over think it about my opinion of Holly looking younger without makeup than with. I was saying it was an observation. I didn’t realize you were talking about my comment about the home videos. You don’t like Nicole and that’s ok , but then you have something to say every time someone else doesn’t care for Jackson or Holly. I liked Holly ok until she kept running it in the ground about throwing the HOH comp. she could have said no and they could have voted her out and that would be that, or she could have held on but there’s no way to know if she would have won. She came off superior and it turned me off. I haven’t liked Jackson from the beginning because he was a jerk and I don’t believe his southern gentleman act now. It’s alright you like them and I don’t but you get aggravated every time I say anything about them. I don’t comment on your post when you trash Nicole so I just don’t get where you’re coming from. Every comment I make isn’t a dig at you but you seem to take it that way. I want Nicole to win but if she doesn’t I won’t lose any sleep and actually most of the time I don’t give it another thought unless I watch exit interviews. I hope that clears it up for you.
Backpedal, backpedal, backpedal.
It’s not back peddling. I own what I say but he was confusing two different comments.
try to ignore him… he’s like a mosquito buzzing around your head. hes made obb his job.
Thank you. It seems to be an obsession. I’m to the point that I think he’s a relative of Jackson’s.
Well now there is a succinct duck, dodge and weave. Thanks.
IF its anything against Jackson or Holly SMB jumps on the poster and starts digging in on them, instead of just concentrating on the “players” and the game. I’ve taken a lot of insulting digs from him, just surprised Simon or Dawg haven’t blocked him, they usually work on that. Like Butters Mom said, Just try and ignore him
“IF its anything against Jackson or Holly SMB jumps on the poster and starts digging in on them, instead of just concentrating on the “players” and the game.”
Yes, only the players in “the game” are fair game. You know wolfie, if Jackson or Holly were even a quarters as bad as the Harpies I might be overwrought by their very existence also.
So did you speak to your pharmacy? Just an “observation”.
He’s making himself look like a jerk. I’m ignoring him from now on because he’s really not worth my time. If you look at the comments most are him jumping on what someone says unless they are a Jackson fan.
You complain about him jumping on someone while you are calling him a jerk. Why does the word hypocrite come to mind?
Truth hurts huh? Congrats jackson & Holly.
Tommy for AFP why?
A kraken drinking wants to know.. convince me.
Only if AFP means annoying fake person.
Lol!
Nicole’s going to win don’t worry Simon.
You are the new Houka.
Take another swig, the southern gentleman is only ONE vote behind him…make that THREE now. Someone’s screwing with you.
Now Cliffie is ahead of Tommy!
America’s Favorite Poser?
Cliff America’s Favorite Pansy.
They obviously got hustled by Tommy’s fake a** phony tears. And probably thought those fake a** phony “I love you so much” b.s. lines were sincere. Suckers. They’re getting played. Sheesh. Pass me the Kraken.
Production did give Tommy another boost last night…the tears from the eviction, his hurt puppy dog face sitting there on the couch talking about how he was betrayed.
They did do their best to help Tommy in Thursday’s episode. My favorite part was how upset Christie was that Nick didn’t respect her game. I had forgot how nice it was to not have to listen to Christie anymore and her and Tommy together is the worst.
Me too.. I had forgotten all about Christie but that jury segment reminded me 😉
Christie’s voice reminds me of the alarm going off in the morning. Ugh!
Her voice reminds me of Frankie Glitter Grande.
Please don’t ever say that name again. Ok one more time. Who do you like better, Frankie or Tommy? LOL
I would rather let FOUTE do my taxes before ever seeing Tommy or Frankie again.
Crusty is the worst!
You know very well that they’ll give her a lot of face time during the jury segment.
because everyone wants to see photos of the sex stool afp shrine next to a tommy afp effigy?
because Kraken sales dipped in your region for a couple days?
because Grod has sent flying monkeys to invade every poll to push Tommy votes until the recap episode?
because everyone misses the on the nose character assessment of the little pisser running around looking like a giant dick?
because ohh mygawwwwd they’re so obsessed with him right now they juuust loooooove him ssoooooo mmmmuch.
—- shudder.
I’m OBSESSED!
I’d only vote for the fish, there not on the poll though.
Love that the sex stool is beating Holly for AFP. LOL
Love it. GreenEyedMonster is an excellent name to go with a Holly rant.
HEY, you know what would be fun? If Nicole tells Holly that Jackson said that he would be “best friends” with Holly outside the BB house, but doubts they will continue to date……. maybe, just maybe, she would realize that she had been used ( on so many different levels) get pissed at Jackson and take Nicole! Oh that would redeem this whole miserable season. Unfortunately, I don’t think Nicole was there when he said that. Can someone please stand outside the BB backyard with a bullhorn and play back THAT conversation………
Holly would just forgive him and play floormat again…
Uh guys…Jackson and Holly had the conversation days ago.
Uh, After Jackson won the veto last week, Holly jumps into his arms and says breathlessly “I LOVE YOU!”
Jackson: “crickets”
IMHO Holly is WAAAAAAY more invested in that relationship than Jackson is. Maybe she truly loves the guy. Maybe it’s Stockholm Syndrome since they’ve both been “captive” for so long in the BB house. Maybe she’s afraid she’s gonna get 2nd and she wants to get her “share” of the winnings in free lodging, free travel or what have you. It does appear though that she at least is “all in” for a post game relationship, while he appears to be ready to put her in the rear view mirror (oh, except for a once a year travel buddy trip – yeah, for sure. That’ll go over like a lead balloon.).
Holly may need to schedule some time with Nick once the season is over.
Dang, for a moment I thought you might have something a little more fresh…at least for today.
I do believe you’re the first to bring up “Stockholm Syndrome” today; it usually comes up at least once a day but do believe you folks dropped the ball today.
That said, you had to wreck a moment of fresh “stale” air with the time with Nick thing. The therapy thing has already hit at least three or four times already. Proving that there is indeed a serious need for some therapy in your circle.
Hey Beef (why do I think about a certain very old hamburger commercial when I see that name and read the comments), I hate to ask you folks a favor but…just this once. Would it be possible for you folks to maybe get together and come up with some new material? You folks are kind of in a rut. I mean Jim Jam or Slam Bam or whatever their name is did try to make a comment about Nicole’s makeup and somehow morphed that into “observations” about missing parents, reunion shows and a whole lot of other non-makeup related nonsense but at least it was fresh. Silly as hell, but fresh.
Surely, the brain trust can come up with something even a little better than Stockholm Syndrome and therapy?
It would be appreciated.
Is this show still on television?
Nope.
It’s straight to Betamax.
What show?
Which Sam?
Not a Jackson fan, but he deserves to win it. Dude is a beast. His game was dirty, BUT, it’s also been on point and he carried Holly all the way to the end. He’s an All Star. Watching the jury house last night, they’re gonna give it to him. No matter how butthurt they are, they all know he a beast.
Yes, as much as you all hate him, he is the only one who deserves to win due to game play.
He broke the rules……. cheated on slop…DOESN’T deserve shit……well, he could have the sex stool. It’s diseased anyway. Deluded Jackson fans on this site must be his frat bros
I didn’t know that crabs get jelly.
jackson being so nice and caring for nicole warms my heart. i really thought he would be consumed with holly and not give face to her in final three. y’all know how I feel about michie, but this shows a new and more genuine side of him that i really appreciate
Ditto, and I still would like to know the details about his efforts to get Cliff’s family brought out to the finale.
LOL! Jackson is NOT “genuinely” being nice and caring for Nicole. He’s kissing Nicole’s butt (it’s called jury management) because 1) if she wins parts 2 and 3, she will take him to Final Two, or 2) if she gets evicted and goes to jury, she will vote for him to win. Jackson is Butt Kisser Extraordinaire.
Of course, and he was trying to get Cliff’s family brought out to the finale so they would vote for him as well. He’s good! Something tells me he’s not trying for that any longer.
Do you really believe Michie would relinquish his precious Mama’s airplane seat so Mrs. Hogg could attend Michie’s Confetti Baptism Instead??! Whatcha smokin’ in that pipe???!
How is that so when he’s been sweet to her all season? I will admit there’s some of that but he’s not the monster you all are portraying. And remember he’s really young.
It’s a facade, there is nothing genuine about Jackson Michie except the luv fer his Momma.
Jackson “ Norman Bates” Michie
Jackson $500,00 Michie
He’s merely keeping that vote close to his heart just in case Nicole goes to jury
Him and Nicole going to jury would be his best bet for first place.
Jackass said he knows how to get to Nicole by being loving and talking about family he is fake as a three dollar bill
Well why not, it worked for Cliffie.
I see what you’re saying. Before the whole blow up between the final four, I had thought that Michie had a little crush on Nicole. But, I didn’t like how bad he talked about her after the blow up. But, once the dust settled, he seemed to be ok with her. In my opinion, it’s obvious that Michie is physically attracted to Holly, and is in a showmance with her for one thing only, which we all know what that involves. But, I just think that Nicole’s personality is what he likes more. Just doesn’t admit it. I know, I know, start the thumbs down. But, like I said, it’s just my opinion.
Holly is over there planning all sorts of adventures in the future with jackass while he’s counting the money in his head. And probably also thinking- what excuse will I give when dumping her ass? He’ll make excuses about family, schedules, blah blah blah. Meanwhile -Holly will be sitting at home waiting for him to call. Ghosted, because He took the money and ran! He won’t be needing her anymore. It pisses me off that she doesn’t see this. So stupid.
Eh, maybe she’ll get a little time with him after the show – for appearance sake, ya know?! /S
How does Jackson plan in dumping Holly after he wins? By taking her for a ride in his new Jeep Wrangler (that he’s already planning on buying with his winnings) with the doors off and turning corners really fast.
Holly will probably never see him again after the season. Jack/Michie is probably not even his real name. Your ghost comment is right on. Heck his real name might be Casper.
Hmmmm, just curious. Why would them seeing each other or not seeing each other even matter to anyone?
I seem to recall that the consensus was that Tyler and Angela’s Mustache would never stay together…and the comments about them were just as hysterical as these about Jackson and Holly.
Oddly, it seems Tyler and Angela are still together…despite the multitude of dire predictions and their huge incompatibilities, etc, etc, etc. I wonder if they share razors?
Now will Jackson and Holly ever reconnect outside the house? Who knows, that is their decision and no amount of denigrating tirades on the internet will impact that in the slightest.
But cheer up, I’m sure there will be another romance next season to enthrall everyone and inspire their ire.
SWB…Oh Lord…I found a pic of you with Jackson and Holly! https://gph.is/2bDvyJW
Sorry wolfie, I’m fairly positive I won’t be found in your family album. Do all of you walk around on all fours?
Ah…sorry, hence the name. I should have guessed.
Careful SWB…we can have a vicious bite
Oh, no…a Pitt Gorky. Watch your ankles everyone!