Big Brother 21 Finale



Here we go the Finale of Big Brother 21 It’s finally over!

After Cliff left last week we were left with the final three. Nicole, Jackson, and Holly. Jackson went on to win Part one of the Head of Household. In a shocker, Holly won part two. Part three is going to be shown tonight. Jackson and Holly have confirmed they are taking each other to the finale. Leaving us with Nicole to be the evicted and a showmance in the final two.

Check out the rankings from this year —-> Big Brother 21 Ranking GRID

Winner of Final Head of Household :

Jackson
Competition name “The Jury is out”

Jackson evicts Nicole.

Winner of Big Brother 21 :

Jackson
Nicole – Holly
Cliff – Jackson
Tommy – Jackson
Christie – Jackson
Jess – Holly
Nick – Jackson
Kat – Holly
Jack – Jackson
Sis – Jackson

America’s Favorite Player

All the polls I’ve seen online on the various fan sites show Nicole with a hefty lead. Cliff and Tommy seem to both be contenders and my personal favorite Kat is even showing some respectable numbers. I’m predicting feed fans to go Nicole and Causals to go Tommy/Cliff.

Winner of America’s favorite is :

Nicole

Top Vote getters Cliff, Tommy, Nicole (Cliff/Tommy what the f* people)

Final Thoughts

Goes without saying this is one of the worst seasons we’ve watched. All around boring with just a SMALL handful of likable people. It was the first season I truly questioned if I was a fan of this show franchise anymore.

It was really all you folks that kept me going. The comments, the Kill Show, and seeing Dawg get 5% of the vote. Then there are the inside jokes.. ohh the inside jokes are what I live for. I seriously laughed harder and enjoyed the good times on this site more than I ever did watching the feeds and for that, I have all you to thank.

BIG Thanks to everyone for your support and spending your summer here on OBB. Do we have the strength for another KAASSSSSSSSSting and GROD season? really hoping for Allstars but if not I got one more in me ;)

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Maverick32

Your Welcome, you guys are worth every penny!! Gonna miss you, see you next summer

Purge the Losers

Nicole and Johnny Bananas voted off in the same evening…….priceless!

J e t s jets jets jets

Does anyone have some post sites to go to to see houseguests reactions?

Sleepy Joe Versus Corn Pop

Simon,

Have Jackson and Holly broken up yet?

Dawg

Lol probably .. the stool days are over..

Ahole Bananas

Bananas and Laurel in back to back weeks getting eliminated after they threw a challenge is total karma. The Challenge is total drama this year and something to fill the time while I miss Big Brother.

House Stark

Did anyone else notice that when Jackson came out the first person to hug him was Nicole and she was holding on to him like Holly did all season? I don’t think he even said anything to her.
The other thing I noticed was that Jessica didn’t hug him at all.

Make Britney Haynes the Big Brother Host

Nicole was a terrible player. The only reason people like her is because they are comparing her to Jackson who really was a jackhole.
Lets be honest. Nicole had little to no game and was boring all season long. I would rather watch them “discover” another piece of wood on Curse of Oak Island than ever have to watch Nicole again.

Funny Fox

Big Brother if you bring anyone back from this season please bring back Kat. She is awesome!

Jackson the biggot

Seriously Jackson is just a racist but doesn’t realize it. Ya color didn’t play a roll. The final 8 were all white people and the first evicted were 2 blacks an Asian a fat chick a spic and a Hindu and the only reason the first8 has 2 white peoples was bc there was 10whites in the house . God and ya they hated kemi bc kemi is racist too. She’s such a cunt all the time gettin on everyone’s bad side bc everyone of the white guys are uncomfortable around a ignorant aggressive self entitled black woman. She’s a total bitch strait up and she thinks the world is out to get her cause she’s black. Bitch we not living in 1865. It’s 2019. U don’t know what real racism is. U gotta get over it and act less like an annoying lazy gangster bitch from crenshaw. U made them hate u . They would of just been polite to u but still not like u bc of ur attitude bc ur acting like the stereotype black persons. Always saying it’s bc ur black when something doesn’t go ur way but the truth is ur won’t work for it. It’s why I didn’t watch past week 1. There’s Jackson being a typical white guy from the army that’s think they superior. Like how American white guys go to Mexico and treat the spics like uneducated slaves and will hit on any Asian girl and talk shit about anyone of color. Goofs. They just need a beating. 9am-5pm gangsters. Ignorant racist prejudice white ppl. And nick and that Asian chick. She’s so butt ugly.but he lucked out and hit that big titty blonde bimbo after. Lols. That Asian chicks a moron thinking he’s gonna wait for her when he’s got a grade A bimbo to bang in the jury house.

Brirney Haynes Fan

One thing I would like to see is another jury house segment after the Will discussion where they debate who the winner should be.

Funny Fox

Btirtney Haynes and Tyler are my all time favorite BB players.

RobBritchk

Thanks Simon & Dawg for another awesome year on this blog and being able to put up with all of our reactions to these houseguests

crazy

Thanks to both of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Final Thoughts

Jackson is not a nice person but anyone can see he deserved to win this season. He dominated the game in a way we had never seen before. His performance on the final HOH was amazing. To ace every question shows how his skills were both mental and physical. His answers to the questions about his comments this season seemed pretty rehearsed but to be fair to him to call him out without telling him what he said was very weak.

I was impressed how almost everyone put game over personal feeling when it came to the voting. Jackson said it was never personal but it was between him and Kat. He really treated her poorly even though she was nothing but nice to her. I am not surprised that she voted for Holly.

Jessica was only ever going to vote for a woman and she is bitter so that was not a surprise either. She was the biggest load the entire season. Nicole is an entitled millennial who thought she was going to win. No shock that she voted personal either. She studied dates all season and Holly still beat her by 4 minutes in part two of the HOH. So much for Nicole having game.

Congrats to Cliff, Tommy, Sis, Christie, Jack and Nick for voting on game play when they also could of been bitter. On a final note I was impressed by Holly’s final stand. She kicked butt in both part two and part three of the final HOH. Overall this was a fun season with drama until the end.

Thank you Simon and Dawg for all you do for all of us!

GoldenBuni

I agree with everything except your take on Nicole. The physical aspect of that competition and her confidence in her physical ability is what knocked her out. Jackson has some serious issues regarding his outside life, mama’s boy, and self perception. Thank you so much, Simon and Dawg!

Final Thoughts

I agree with you that Jackson has plenty of issues. My first sentence was “Jackson is not a nice person.” Where I disagree with you is that you say the physical aspect knocked her out. In part one Nicole was the last person to put her puzzle together. In part two Nicole was totally dusted by Holly on the comp that dealt with dates. Nicoles issues were just as much mental as physical. I know people like her but the fact is that she just was not a very strong player. Floating was her strongest asset.

Talker

More Final Thoughts

Note to anyone who ever has to apologize for anything:

1. An apology statement can never be fully embraced if you don’t acknowledge what you have said or done to offend the other party. It can never be, “I don’t know what I did, but I’m sorry.”
2. An apology must never include the word, “IF,” as in, “IF” I hurt your feelings/ offended you/ IF you feel that way,” etc. then, “I’m sorry.”
3. An apology comes with a presumption that clearly someone has been injured by your words and/ or deeds. You don’t need to wonder, “IF,” or challenge the premise. Using the word, “IF” in your apology is a maneuver that removes you from responsibility for the offense and shifts blame to the injured party. It is an added offense.

In short, own what you have done/ said by stating the specifics, i.e., “I apologize/ I am sorry for…” and offer an UNQUALIFIED/ NO EXCUSES, “I’m sorry.”

How could Kemi accept Jackson’s vague, nondescript, non-committal version of an apology? She couldn’t. And it was good for her healing that she didn’t play for the cameras. In that moment, when Julie asked if Kemi accepted Jackson’s apology, Kemi maintained her dignity, took good care of her feelings, and gave a well-considered response.
For Jackson’s part, and giving him benefit of the doubt, there was a lot going on and his laser focus was on justifying all of his game moves. He was not able to shift from his defensive posture and adapt. He likely had not given much thought to any of the non-jury houseguests since the time when they were evicted. So, I would think he was stunned.
He may, or may not care, now that the game is over, but, in preparing for criticism, I doubt that he expected to be defending accusations of racism directed his way; bullying, perhaps, but he seemed ready for that part. ” I’m intense…” He knew very well why there would be salt in the air over his game moves, but he was otherwise unprepared to address other kinds of social issues.

Jackson Michie had to keep telling himself, ” I did this for my family.” I think he is happy about the win, but lost some joy in the process. When did a Big Brother winner ever have trouble smiling AFTER hearing the results of the vote?

Simon, Dawg, thank you for this web site and for your diligence in keeping us informed about what goes on both inside the Big Brother house and even beyond, season after season.

J e t s jets jets jets

He didn’t smile once after winning! He knows what he did and was already waiting for the hammer to drop. I’m not talking social media, I’m referring to mom and dad.

Two Cents

Nothing against Nicole but of the final three left she was the third best player. She is a nice girl but not deserving of winning the game. The jury picked the best player.

Apology Police

Ya mad?

CujoWasHere

Exactly! Christie’s non-apology was just as pathetic. When it comes to Jack, I’m not sure how sincere he was. I should give him the benefit of doubt but I’m finding it really hard. Maybe he’s just better at damage control. Kudos to Kemi for handling the situation so gracefully. I really think they all the non-jury members did. Ovi said what needed to be said and Bella, OMG, she could have said so much more but clearly made her point with just a few words. I’m glad they were given the opportunity to speak. We usually don’t hear much from the jury.

I couldn’t wait for this season to end but I think I just might go back and watch finale, fast forwarding to jury questioning and aftermath. If anything, to see Jackson squirm with his jaw tightened and very very red cheeks. I think Holly made a good pitch, maybe even to Jackson’s surprise? For a minute there, I thought she might have tipped the scale, at least a little. I was a little surprised that Cliff was able to suck it up enough to vote for Jackson.

It was apparent that the confetti celebration wasn’t quite the one Jackson had pictured in his mind. At least Mama seemed happy. Maybe she was able to look past her baby’s embarrassingly bad behavior because after all is said and done, that’s a nice fat check! It could be that Mama is just one of those mothers with “golden child” syndrome and Jackson is perfect.

I STRONLY DISAGREE with Final Thoughts statement that Nicole was an “entitled millennial who thought she was going to win.” That girl was the least “entitled” on the show. I think she appreciated everyday she managed to stay in the house. She did not float by. She managed to remove that target off her back, setting aside the sh.tty way the crazy8 treated her, to move herself further into the game. Nicole’s mistake was her total trust in Cliff, going against her own instincts. She knew she would have to win more comps to make it.

Melted Snowflake

Where do entitled millennials live…..with their parents. Where does Nicole live? Cliff and Jackson carried her. When she had to pull her own weight all she did was lose. Holly destroyed her in the days comp and she had spent all summer studying the days. Nicole is not a bad person but she was a bad player.

Get To Steppin Nicole

Nicole/Jessica are bitter losers.

Kat and Sis looked great tonight.

Change Of Heart/ Bold and Smart

When you win a half of a million dollars you should behi excited happy and all that stuff. I dont know if CBS tried to give the HGs a chance to defend their character’s. I am a Afracian American and I don’t believe that Jackson is a racist..he did say somethings but he is not a racist. His moment of joy was stolen from him how sad. Jack remarks were out right dirty and I do question if he’s a racist. I only remember Jackson getting on kemi about putting her water bottle in the fringe the bottle she was drinking out of and that’s okay. If I forgot something jackson did or say that you felt the remark was racist please correct me.. let me know. Thanks Simon and Dawg I always enjoy your site take care

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Completely agree, but I believe it was actually Jack who got wound up over the water bottle and lectured Kemi.

Change Of Heart/ Bold and Smart

Thanks Swaggie’s Missing Brow for correcting me on Kemi and the water bottle issue in my previous comments. Let’s take a look at this word ‘racist’ again..we all now racism is a big issue in the world..I have been around racist people before..yes I have encountered it several times..that’s why I said what I said in my previous comments.. Jackson is not a racist and for people to use the word ‘racist’ loosely is wrong. I might not like what Jackson said or done.. but that doesn’t make him a racist…using the word ‘racist’ incorrectly in a sentence about someone ‘Jackson’ can destroy his life as well as others. Let’s us all stop and think about that word ‘racist’ before we decide to use it toward someone because that word can destroy and put someone life in danger as well as their family and friends. I love all not matter what color.. nice chatting with you Swaggie’s take care.

Sherry

Agree with you Heart, but the sad thing is that the type of assertions placed on Jackson can destroy lives. He will eventually recover but being labeled a racist will always be out there.

Hearts Reality TV

i, too, was saddened by the fact that Jackson was so upset about the racist stuff that it took away from the pure enjoyment that he deserved to feel in the moment. Not an appropriate time for CBS to dig up $hit – it should be a happy night. Let the house guests work out their issues away from cameras and mics.
i have enjoyed reading the wide range of opinions here, and Simon and Dawg’s strong Admin, keeping it (mostly) very respectful of not only each other, but also the house guests.
See y’all next season.

Cindy

I think Kemi was a bitter Betty from day one she did nothing but complain if she wanted to stay she should have worked harder to win something the 3 left cause they couldn’t win i get so frustrated with everything coming down to being racist Jackson worked his butt off to win to stay there he deserved the win

Dogs4Pete

I really think, CBS is trying to get on the “woke” edge of all topics. And they used the race card to show themselves as self righteously absurd social commentators on this show. They pit these guests against each other, manipulate them for entertainment then shame them as the opportunity presents itself, “persons of color” is identity cr#p.

Brenda Hopper

They took his happiness away and that was just not right he seem to have some issues but being racist was not one of them Julie Chen need to be done

Turd

Nicole a bitter loser? What show did you watch. Jessica is just bitter in general.

Cheech

Her cats and knitting will make her feel better. Back to Moms house.

Cliff's Puppet

I heard Nicole is going to be on Cat Talk tomorrow to talk about her love of wallpaper and doorknobs.

Franks fumes

So he wins and his legacy is as a racist and misogynist…….weird ass finale lol.

THE END

BB21 season was horrible, but WOW! this season finale with jackson’s anxiety going def-con 4 on live television was monumental.

Sherry

He’s going to need some serious therapy. Not making fun of him but he just needs help.

Lane Johnson

If I were Jackson I would lawyer up. What CBS did last night was embarrassing.

My business

What he did in the shower with Holly on the stool is more embarrassing. Money can’t buy morale.

Bankrupt Business

Morale? Is that you Rockstar?

J e t s jets jets jets

CBS? he did to himself!

CujoWasHere

Jackson embarrassed himself.

Smokin

500,000 times. Scoreboard.

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Obviously the extensive therapy and behavioral modification sessions that CBS was providing him all season didn’t work!

Back in the real world, I agree, he does appear to have some personal issues to work on and that finale CBS put on for their handpicked winner didn’t help.

CujoWasHere

He needed prior to coming in the BB house.

YGAA

That was discussing what they did to Jackson (and others).

Strack

I agree julie chen should be looking in her own back yard with her husband

RobBritchk

This Jury is better behaved than last season ‘s extremely bitter jury

Ovi's Forked Tongue

And they made the right decision.

Sherry

I was pleasantly surprised. Glad I was wrong because I thought they would be bitter.

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Watching and reading Dr. Will’s comments the impression I got was he believed the jury was leaning Jackson. Although his comments were almost as noncommittal as what BB showed us, and the edited snip of the jury round table that we were allowed to see was also noncommittal, I did note that the only “game play” that Dr. Will commented on on his own twitter page was Jackson’s, and he thoroughly praised it.

The jury questions were pretty decent, however, listening to Tommy and Cliffie asking their questions was gag worthy to me; as if either of them had room to talk…or question anyone else. I would have liked seeing some of the jury answer their own questions.

TTOTambz

Yeah – I guess CBS couldn’t call out two of the three AFP finalists but that was BS. Dr. Will also nailed Cliff basically saying his inability to work with others (he specifically said not giving Nicole’s opinions more credence especially on the Tommy vote) showed he was only interested in his own opinion. It was about as close as Will gets to throwing shade. I posted the actual quote somewhere on here.

Will always is a straight shooter & I agreed with both his comments – Jackson deserved the win & Cliff made the dumbest move of the season (which I’ll be honest I enjoyed b/c everyone blamed Nicole but unless she got Cliff to shift nothing was gonna change).

Bryan Givons

It was not a dumb move. Tommy would have won the game easily if he stayed, probably beating Nicole 8-1 or something in the FInal 2. Cliff still was finishing 3rd or 4th.

Maverick32

I’m so surprised Cliff is bitter !! Not ! So salty because he screwed up his own game, not impressed with him at all .

Sherry

Too bad he didn’t tell the whole story.

ThatBBfan

Well at least he didn’t vote like a bitter Betty lol

Jackstool is an ass

Cliff-Still an ass.

Turd

Well he voted for Michie o couldn’t have been that bitter. I’m surprised the jury wasn’t worse. T

Swaggie's Missing Brow

I’m not sure Cliffie had a choice. A lot of people already saw through his folksy bull$hit act, but while he may be a complete hypocrite he isn’t completely stupid. If he had voted for Holly there is no way he could have not owned his “little bitch” image.

Buh Bye

Survivor night!

CujoWasHere

I’m happy to say goodbye to BB and hello to Survivor!

Buh Bye

Thanks Simon and Dawg! Quit watching a long time ago, but come here for your witty take on these numbskulls. My fear is that all future houseguests will think the best strategy for winning is to “stool and showmance” their way there. Sooooooooo boring.

Talker

It must get lonely on Cliff’s moral high ground.

Jackstool

Cliff’s still not getting it. Could be a sexist issue.

Liza

I just came here to just say Thank you Simon and Dawg for the amazing work you do for the BB fans and without this site the show is wack and CBS needs to give some of that money for your site. Ps ain’t no one cares about the winner tonight but congratulations $$$$!

Lorne

Bern voting g Kat all week ,hope she win

Cheech

It stinks all those cats won the 25G’s for AFH.

Spinster in Training

Some of the money will be spent on Bingo.

Heather Myst

And Murder, She Wrote DVD’s.

Cliff's Puppet

Most of the money will be spent on a metal detector so she can look for coins on the beach.

OBB Rocks

Nicole will need one of those Golden Girls makeup kits too.

Gozurman

Love Sis being so salty. Complains about how lousy the final 3 played yet she was the 3rd one to be sent to the jury house. Still clueless!

ThatBBfan

Sis is the biggest disappointment of the season in my book. Huge flop!

TTOTambz

I was frankly SHOCKED by how much jury round table air time she was given – what the heck was that about? The best part was when Kat said Holly took out big players while Jackson took out bottom feeders & then they panned to Sis & Jess (I almost wet myself I laughed so hard at Jess’ face -how dare her BFF say that) lol

Cheech

I don’t think that is the first time either of them have been peed on.

OBB Rocks

Kat is fearless.

Maverick32

I just laugh when she talks, cannot take her serious , at all !!

Sherry

Sis confuses me.

CujoWasHere

Laughing out loud..

Gozurman

If she was in the academic decathlon against Billy Madison, and she went second after Billy, no matter the caged, the Principal would have said “Billy, I stand corrected. This now is the most idiotic thing that I have ever heard….”

YGAA

Hilarious when Sis accuses Holly of playing Sis’s game. Except HOLLY ACTUALLY WON SOME COMPETITIONS and 50k.

Holly Deserves Some Credit

Holly really did represent herself well*. She kicked butt in those last two HOH comps too. I was shocked by how much she beat Nicole by.

* Not counting the stool.

YGAA

Nichol isn’t pretty dumb. She didn’t win anything until it was down to a handful of people and most of her wins were handed to her. And before someone calls that “strategy”, she was crying over how she couldn’t win, she was trying.

Strack

For the first 83 days Nicole was wall paper. Only won one conp that mattered.everything else was given. Jessica what a joke. Stay irrelevant

Smokin

Well Sis did look great in that green dress.

Double Barf

Wow, there are some jelly cat ladies here.

Smokin

I bet all the cat ladies loved the tent Jessica wore on finale night. I think the designer was Coleman.

Gozurman

Thanks for making this season fun Simon and Dawg! Another job well done by you! Time to start building a casting shrine Simon so we at least have a prayer for a good Season 22

RobBritchk

To be fair, Jackson ‘s goodbye message to Cliff was probably the worst one

Count Chocula

I thought that had cost him Cliff’s vote but to Cliff’s credit he did vote for the best game play.

Go Underdogs Go!

So a Tool, a Stool and a Preschool teacher walked into a bar…

Wish we could all meet up in that bar and raise a glass of Krakken to you guys!!! Thanks Simon and Dawg for putting in all those grueling hours away from family and friends, and slaving over keyboards to put this horrible season into words for our entertainment. Until we meet again…..CHEERS!

RobBritchk

This is the most mature Jury Big Brother has had in years!

Comprehension

Haha maybe before the prejurors got to talk

Cat Ladies

Except for Jessica and Nicole.

Roll Tide

Thank you Simon and Dawg for all of your hard work, I know it was very hard this season. Thank you to your families for letting us borrow you!!! I love you guys!
Thank you for what you do!!! Enjoy your free time!

House Stark

Totally agree and Roll Tide!

Maverick32

Michie is answering questions wayy better, Holly isn’t making sense !

RobBritchk

Her answers I could understand. She and I share a trait;we both love exposition so have trouble giving short answers

Bullies Suck

Not sure how rehearsed plays. We’ll see….

Jackstool

Michie didn’t own his derigatory pompus actions. He’s clueless.

Sherry

Turns out he didn’t have to. Have to admit that I thought he would as a part of his closing statement.

Rosie

We muted the TV on his and Holly’s closing. Didn’t want to make ourselves ill.

ShruteBeets

I disagree maverick. Before tonight, I didn’t think holly deserved to win, she won me over with her answers.

J e t s jets jets jets

I actually yelled shut up at the tv she was going on so long.

Last Season was Better

This season was junk. However I have to thank Simon & Dawg for their updates. How you were able to watch a terrible season on the feeds and keep us updated says a lot about your loyalty to the game and your fans. Thank you. Here’s to a better season next year.

Rosie

Yes, thanks. Hope you get some revenue from the occasional ads I clicked on.

Kemi Karma Strikes Again

I’m laughing how Beth’s answers are pissing off Snacks

Jackstool

Snacks was pissed being accused of being racist and not getting to say anything. You know no-one speaks for Snacno-ONE

The Beef

Did you see his face when she said she played the game with integrity and honesty? He looked like she had run over him with a fully loaded 18 wheeler! I had visions of her picking him up by the scruff of his neck and heaving him up under the bus.

The funny part was right after she said it, she reached over and tried to hold his hand, and he wouldn’t take hers. I was LOL, and this was of course BEFORE all of the bullying and racial accusations came up.

CujoWasHere

Yes!!! She obviously caught Jackson off guard! I believe I remember him trying to coach her, telling her to be prepared for jury questions. He looked like she had pulled The rug out from underneath him.

I honestly thought Holly made a good case for herself, giving the jury members a decent excuse not to vote for Jackson. It’s easy to assume he would have gone out early on had Holly not reigned him in and coddled him on many occasions. She won when he couldn’t play and took out bigger targets. She played a better all round game. Probably just wishful thinking on my part. I just can’t stand the guy but admit that it is hard to ignore all the comp wins. I do really believe that he would have come undone without her there to hold him together.

I am exhausted from rolling my eyes every time they said they didn’t have a final 2!

Sis's Werewolf

Cliff/Nicole/Tommy are extra salty…. IDK, watermelon head might get boned on the win

Big Brother needs to seriously fix the voting system… America needs a voice towards who wins

BB21 Fan

it seems someone commented before watching the finale

Comprehension

Last year didn’t the people who went out perjury talk before the vote happened? Also dont tell me the grod didn’t let michie know about the disrespectful to women question.

The Beef

I think Michie, Jack and Christie were not only warned, but were coached up on how to answer all of those accusations. Funny how they took three different attitudes in their responses. Jack owned his (pretty much). Christie was kinda meh, it’s a game people say things, but sorry if you were offended. Jack was all WHO ME? Racist? Aggressive to women? No way in Hell that happened, but sorry you’re butt-hurt.

I think this was just CBS’ way of covering their own ass because of all of the uproar on social media. If they didn’t say anything, they would look complicit, so they “threw the HG under the bus” to protect themselves, but not without providing them with professional PR help to navigate through those waters. At least that’s my opinion, especially after hearing Jack’s response. He really sounded ready for that question.

Dakota Barb

Waiting for the MONSTER to erupt!

Cheech

You mean the winner.

Comprehension

Wow good thing for michie the vote happened before prejurors spoke

Turbo

It ALWAYS does.

Bullies Suck

Bella blew her on air chance to fly the two finger salute to Nick. I’ll help her. F you buddy!

Sherry

The look on Kat’s face was priceless when Nick was addressing Bella. I swear she was just saying “awkward”.

Maverick32

Yeah, not sure she was liking what Nick had to say to Bella. Might have been the first time to hear he told her he loved her !!

Sherry

Kat’s too good for Nick. I think she just wanted a summer fling and will dump him, hopefully.

Roll Tide

Bella looked very nice with the shorter hair. Kemi also looked very pretty. Jessica still seemed clueless.

Sherry

I agree, Jessica seemed the same.

Final Thoughts

Jessica always looks like she has a turd in her mouth.

Franks fumes

She’s got one in there length wise….

Rosie

she better get checked for STDs

Ugh

This finale is such a downer. This was not the right time to publicly call those out for bullying and racism. It’s supposed to be a celebration. Hands down, CBS ruined this finale. Michie had his faults but CBS truly robbed him of his joy of winning.

Cheech

Really. I was hoping for more Nicole tears.

Comprehension

This has always been cast a social experiment being viewed 24/7 by people. It happens to have a prize for who the houseguest thought played the best game but there is the main objective of being hamsters in a cage. I find no fault with CBS casting light on the social experiment aspect.

g Love

BS it was the perfect time, I was actually pleasantly surprised and feeling as if CBS was actually acknowledging the terrible behaviors by allowing them to be discussed. 100000% loved Jackholes face after the winner announcement. I’m happy he’s getting his ego checked!

Mad respect to Kemi, David, Ovi for taking a stand , and calling out the truth! I loved loved loved each one saying in their own ways, can’t wait until they all can see their bullying, racist, degrading and more behaviors and wish the HG’s become much better people in the future!

Congratulations to Nicole for AFP!

Thank you Dawg and Simon for your dedication to all of us, keeping us in the know when it was just too hard to watch! I’m proud to be a member of this wonderful group!

Love to all!

ShruteBeets

Ovi looked like he was acting, trying to get a hero award. There is no way he was genuinely that upset over something that happened in a game setting a couple of months ago., David was the only one who seemed genuine.

Cheech

At least Ovi was consistant. He sucked on the show too. I do agree with you that David did seem genuine.

3558

David, Kemi, and Ovi were losers for multiple reasons – none of which had anything to do with their race. They, you, and CBS should quit making excuses for their gameplay, or lack thereof. They lost because they lost – not because they were cheated, persecuted, etc. Ridiculous victim mentality.

America's Favorite

Nobody said they didn’t do well because of racism. They were called derogatory names and judged poorly based on literally nothing because of racism.

Victimhood Culture

“Nobody said they didn’t do well because of racism. They were called derogatory names and judged poorly based on literally nothing because of racism.”

You just did.

America’s Favorite

There’s never a wrong time to shame people for shameful behavior. If you don’t want to be shamed, don’t do shameful things. It’s not hard. None of these people are children. They all graduated from high school. There’s no excuse.

ShruteBeets

Oh please, Nicole told him in the house that she can handle herself, she doesn’t need ovi to shame anyone on her behalf.

Nicole's New Kitty

Nicole has the spine of cooked spaghetti.

America's Favorite

Ovi wasn’t the only one who pointed out the houseguests’ shameful behavior, and Nicole wasn’t the only recipient of shameful behavior.

Franks fumes

Yes CBS should be the arbiter of what is shameful behavior or not………Mr. Moonves and his wife are fine examples.

SJW

Calling out someone without telling them what they are accused of is bogus.

CujoWasHere

They’re not children. They are adults who knew cameras where on them 24/7. I imagine it’s not the first time this group has been told they were assholes. Jackson most definitely had prior warning. He spent most of the season on damage control, obsessing over his image.

Strack

Julie Chen should watch her husband before she says anything

blah

well they have to act concern. michie is feeling a fair share of the torment he gave to others. in a week he will be back to his ole self forgetting what America thinks of him

ShruteBeets

I agree with you “ugh”, they gave way too much power to the idiots on twitter. Now They will even more-so over-protest every little thing that happens next year. I’m So tired of every little thing being blown way out of proportion just to make a story out of it, and so tired of all of the phony uproar of people being so offended on behalf of others.

Sleepy Joe Versus Corn Pop

ShruteBeets,

Your post triggered me.

BB Crusty Crab Shack

I was very satisfied that they called him out……remember Jackson spewing hate towards David for no fkg reason? He wanted to mule kick him in the teeth……told Holly that Jess needed to go back to Mexico……KARMA came for Mama’s baby tonight….but hey, at least he got his confetti

Nicole for returning HG for next year!

No it is the perfect time, They need to own up to their actions and they haven’t been outside of the house to do that. I just wish they would have done clips of it for them to see so they couldn’t attempt to sugar coat and talk their way out of trouble.

Ornithophobia

If Nicole returns next season it will be as a maid.

3558

Ugh – you are completely correct. CBS and their controversy bullshit was completely ridiculous.

Franks fumes

It was kind of funny actually….weird but funny.

Bullies Suck

Michie cannot handle criticism! Wow is he salty!!!

Cheech

$500,000.00 will help with that.

America’s Favorite

I can’t wait to see what he spends it on! Based on what he said to Holly, I’m guessing it will be fines, attorney’s fees and restitution.

Sleepy Joe Versus Corn Pop

Maybe a solid gold two seater stool?

Bullies Suck

Yes! Thank you first to Simon and Dawg. Without you, we would have not had nearly as much fun this year!

Next, thank you to my fellow commenters! We had some fun, as usual.

Maverick32

Thanks Simon and Dawg , you guys were amazing as usual !!

Last Season was Better

Stayed up to watch Nicole win AFP!
Congrats Nicole. Well deserved

Kat’s Alien Bitch

Glad Nicole won.

The best comment of the night was from Paul who said the episode turned into a Black Mirror episode

Michie deserves to win. And also is a complete ass.

Thank you for the site!

Kat’s Alien Bitch signing off

Get To Steppin Nicole

Thanks Nicole’s My Little Pony sister.

Melted Snowflake

I wonder if the $25,000 will be enough for Nicole to move from her parents basement to the main floor?

America’s Favorite

Why are you obsessed with where other people live?

Get To Steppin Nicole

Has your Mommy made your breakfast yet?

America's Favorite

Most normal human beings who have jobs and take care of their families are too busy with their own responsibilities to care about where a stranger from a reality television show lives or who makes breakfast for a stranger making a comment on a website. I guess you and Melted Snowflake (provided you’re even two different people) believe otherwise.

BB22 All Star Season?

Sounds like Nicole is not the only one still living at home with their parents. Nicole lost. Deal with it. She still won 25 thousand. That is pretty good.

Sis's Werewolf

CBS trying to pull the racism/bully card was total bullshit. Was a total RREEEAAAACCCCHHHHHH

Sherry

Yep, what else is new? We pretty much hear that every day.

ugh

Covering their butts to get blame off themselves

BB is a Social Experiment, Not High School

Total reach? So off being called “The Brown Kid”, and using disrespectful language to Kemi and David isn’t racist?

And Bullying let’s see they sat there’s and bullied Nicole, but claim to be good people, aspecially considering they actually did say the things she said they said, but didn’t want to own up to them so all of the sudden she is a bully! Also they claimed to not be bullies yet literally five minutes later they bully Nicole. What a joke these people are and so full of it, they all think they are the bees knees. I can’t wait to see what their response is to the criticism they receive in the world because when they get a chance to see what they did and said Andy still deny it then you won’t be blaming CBS.

Sherry

No doubt about it, they were assholes on all fronts.

Swaggie's Missing Brow

I would include most of the pre-jury in that as well.

Franks fumes

Blame CBS and their lazy ass casting department…..in what world do you cast some of these creeps.

Mrs. Tachskreiger

Thank you so much for every summer you do this for us! You guys are the best.

Sherry

And on a closing note, just wanted to say to everyone to have a Happy Halloween, Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Chrismas, Happy New Year, and Happy Birthday, and any other big day I may have missed.

g Love

Same to you Sherry, we don’t always agree but I love hearing everyone’s different perspectives! See you next time!

Cliff the dog

Honestly Julie at the end sucked the life out of the whole 99 days. I feel like I need a shower now (no stool) no one was happy tonight and that is a shame it’s a game. I actually feel bad for those being called out. You can vote me down one last time but that was the wrong thing to do. Sorry I feel awful about what went down.

Bullies Suck

I’ve been voted down for this before. Julie sucks as host. She’s never polished her approach and she comes across as very arrogant.

One thing she is good at is sucking the life out of the game. She bullied specific people and harshed Jackson’s mellow big time. He may deserve the criticism, but there is a time and place.

Honestly, Dr Will would make a much better host.

Sally B

Plus, you would think that after what Julie’s hubby was fired from CBS for, she’d have had a little more sense than to run with that pre-jury public service announcement masquerading as pre-jury “insight” into all the pre-jury members disses/slights. It was brutal & sucked the life out of an already crappy finale.

Strack

Totally agree. What a joke. Julie Chen byebye

Cliff's Puppet

And take Grodner with you.

House Stark

It is almost like she won the job on the casting couch.

Franks fumes

She just signed a new contract because she is so indispensable to the show lol.

Cliff's Puppet

Antonio Brown signed a couple of new contracts. How did those work out for him?

America’s Favorite

The best time and place would be during the screening process. But Julie has nothing to say when she continues to defend her sexual predator husband.

Franks fumes

It’s true she’s terrible as host and yet some people defend her at every turn…….why?…. I don’t get it……

Jackstool

It was on point. I voted you up only to agree no-one was happy. Not the fans, not the players, not the winner.

Butters Mom

Thank you for another great summer!

Roll Tide

Simon can we still buy items from Amazon and you get a part of it?

bbEricfan

I thought Hakuna Matata predicted Jackson would lose?

g Love

Isn’t he supposed to eat his words? Likely he’s dining on his al a cart laptop and won’t be able to respond for a bit! ;)

Final Thoughts

He will be working with Christie on manifestations over the break.

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Hakuna Matata is the name of a Japanese anime character that has special powerful powers of perception…that apparently work in the comic books.

Hakuna will always predict that the geekiest player will win.

House Stark

Well I didn’t know that. His predictions are so bad that they are funny.

Thanks to Simon, Dawg and Swaggie for putting not only the fun but the funny in this season. Until next year guys.

Kelly

Thought that CBS didn’t need to imply Jackson was a racist. I don’t remember him ever being racist. I don’t agree how he spoke to Kat, but I don’t agree with CBS making him out to be a racist and clearly shaking him up on Finale night was not appropriate. I remember Jack being outspoken about Kemi, but he was already chastised for that when he was evicted.

Jackstool

He was anti-david from the get-go, check out youtube.

bbEricfan

Being anti-David doesn’t mean he’s a racist.

I didn’t like Emmitt Smith when he played for the Cowboys. That doesn’t make me a racist, either. In fact, I respected Smith as a player. And I think we should take Jackson at his word that he took a shot at David because he saw David as someone he’d have trouble beating in the end.

It’s not his fault that David failed miserably in each comp that would have saved him.

Rosie

There’s a video on Youtube Michie saying something about piss on the sink, and would leave crumbs around to drive David nuts and Jack then used the “N” word, something about not going to play with “N”. He wanted to bully David. joined in with Jack calling others maggots.

ShruteBeets

JackTool, if you think that getting David out because david is a tough competitor was racist, you are the racist.

TTOTambz

There is a full “receipts” post Evel Dick posted on twitter with specific incidences & dates that can be pulled up on feeds (of note – it’s really long). It includes arrest notes from his college and other items like the FCC response about this being a “entertainment program” NOT a game show

bbEricfan

I’ve seen the “receipts.” Most of them are opinion and bulls£!t. You have to “hear” the N-word on your own, because it is certainly not clear in the audio.

It says more about the mental state of the person who posted it than it does about that of Jackson.

The anonymous person, who has defamed Jackson’s charcter since the season began on Twitter, saying he has multiple mental illnesses and drug addictions and arrests, also left a breadcrumb — the FCC inquiry that the fan sent about whether BB is a game show. Because the FCC is a governmental body, its correspondence is subject to FOI laws.

If Jackson’s mother has the resources that the conspiracy nuts say she has, then that particular troll ought to be very worried about getting doxed, then sued for libel.

TTOTambz

Yeah I’m just noting what was posted. There are also numerous video clips. In truth, I thought Jack was more egregious.

There are also a TON of film clips on Ika Wong’s twitter page b/c she asked for actual “receipts” footage b/c she is doing backyard interviews & wanted the real tea – not just someone saying “they said or did this”. The responses were wide ranging – Tommy for example is shown in the room almost inciting G8ful into a riot as he is jumping up and down and screaming about Nicole. That film clip was preceded by Sis, Holly & Christie telling Nicole how Nick/Bella were bullies but in the room they all claim innocence & blame Nicole. Then as she tries to enter the room Jackson says “not now” which wasn’t said harshly or cruelly however, that was followed by Jack basically slamming the door in her face.

Jackson also apologized to her later in the game for saying “not now” but to my knowledge Holly never owned she lied about it or was part of that whole situation.

Sugar Sugar

Please pass the brownies.

Final Thoughts

Evel Dick is the MSNBC of facts.

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Evel Dick adds a whole new meaning to the phrase “I saw it on the internet”.

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Evel played a whole lot of angry, gullible people this season…and had a good laugh at their expense.

TTOTambz

There is Evel Dick’s “receipts” and as per bbericfan noted it may not be actual but they did list feeds dates/times to check — so — shrugs shoulders.

There is also a 40 minute film compilation of Kemi hate (again I presume that’s dominated by Jack as he seemed to have the biggest issues with her). Plus another segment of compiled film clips of Jackson’s comments about David (including good ole boy Cliff & him discussing pissing on the floor & blaming it on David) & still more of G8ful & S6 which highlighted what a cheerleader Tommy was (although he got NOTHING directed at him last night).

Plus as noted above there is a huge compilation of film clips on Ika Wong’s twitter of many of the hamsters (including Sis, Holly, Christie, Tommy, and Nick – not just the Jacks). In one Christie & Tommy incite a group by the hammock about Kemi & Nick says he wants to spit in her face (I totally forgot how much of a dick he was, especially early before he became a predator crawling all over everyone).

Btw: Tommy & Cliff were involved in a quite a few of those conversations & got off Scott free.

America’s Favorite

I want to start off by saying that I value everything you do and know that you can’t possibly post every conversation. But when I read about egregious behavior on other BB sites, I come here for more details, because this site gives the most detailed updates in an accessible format. But a lot of times I see no mention of the awful behavior in the posts, and any mention of it in the comments get down votes and claims that it never happened.

ShruteBeets

people are crying wolf so much now, it distracts from pointing out real rasicm.

Cheech

Exactly Shrute.

CBS and Jackson should be ashamed

You don’t remember it because for the early part of the game Jack, Jackhole, and Christie got flawless edits with none of their transgressions shown. Jackson used the N word in reference to David on the feeds, hat was not shown on the show, yet remember past seasons especially S15 when these were shown and a disclaimer was even added to the beginning.

Jack’s Rice Pudding comment was only brought to light after he was on the outs and not in a position to win the game, and therefore not worth protecting by CBS. He can claim the mud-hole comment was a callback to Sam from last season but that’s an excuse for his h8ful comments to Kemi.

It was necessary for CBS to do this to show that they don’t condone 5e behavior because for the early part of this game it really looked like they did.

Jackson wasn’t happy as a winner and that’s disappointing as a fan but he shouldn’t be happy knowing the things he said and did that aren’t considered gameplay that got him to the end of the game. The biggest one was making up a blatant lie about Tommy,

I get that it’s win at all cost but I can’t respect someone who blatantly and maliciously lies to end someone else’s game. Tommy should be allowed to come back and play again because that was a screw-job. He probably wouldn’t win but at least he would get a fair shot. Breaking a deal is one thing, but making shit up just to screw someone out of the game isn’t respectable gameplay and I hope Jackson is ashamed. Most disrespectful winner ever.

Maybe some good will come of this and CBS will see that their casting strategies SUCK!

Without the bullies and the racists being protected by CBS, the outcome of this game would have been totally different.

Turbo

Lying is a part of this game. Crusty did it to Nick, and Jackson did it to Tommy. IMO Tommy was the most annoying houseguest this season, and it couldn’t have happend to a better houseguest this season.

another name

I’m shocked they did it after coaching him on behavior modification for weeks (he’s talked about it on feeds). I’m surprised. They took such pains to cover up a lot of the early season negativity from many houseguests (including going to fish on feeds during some of the negativity leaving feeders to depend on multiple retells). Many episode only watchers are probably confused as hell. Some are probably wondering what are you talking about… where is this coming from… it’s news to us. Mostly because it was never part of the storyline. The episode edit in the early weeks was like ohhh: when did Jackson’s mom become a big brother story editor, cus that’s some only a mom could level clean up. I’m not surprised that they did it in a very cbs fashion. It could have been soooo much worse. They could have played clips.
It’s not like they could address it at his eviction was my thought (like they did with Jack).
Jackson wasn’t shocked by the allegation, he’s been prepared for it. He was shocked that he had to face the questions before press gaggle. He was surprised and low key angered that the show was going to put it out there, and not the press. This was just after he was upset that Holly had referred to him as a tool in her game in her questions (on the way to commercial before the pre juror segment).
We have to remember: The house guests were informed during a feed break meeting and on feeds had mutiple discussions about production telling them about racist allegations in the press and public eye. So he shouldn’t have been shocked, he was informed it was an issue. 11 or 12 weeks ago.
In regards to Kemi’s comments: “Jack, Jackson, Christie and Nick, I’m not exactly sure what your obsession was with me. A lot of the things that were said about me and some of the others were completely inexcusable and unforgivable”. Where is the lie? They said some despicable things about Kemi and. or some of the others. The surprises? Jack… JACK had the best apology. Well maybe not that surprising: he’s had weeks to come up with it, and has seen the receipts. Christie and blaming heat of the moment and hormones? Nope. magicuniversalbladderinfection isn’t saving her this time from this manifestation. Why bother getting Nick’s apology. He’s nodding along like a dimwit until his own name was called. And then there’s Jackson.
Realistically, there is the option of spinning the entire thing in perspective: They gave Jackson the opportunity in front of a large viewer audience, to respond to questions that were already going to be asked. The fact that he’s rattled by it, or some think it was in poor taste? Imagine just how many of the trolls will be partially sated by the fact that it’s been called out on finale, instead of being calling it out themselves in the much less controlled environment of social media. They’ve mitigated some of the backlash he will face BY bringing it up at the finale. They’ve helped him get ahead of the story, and they’ve helped him craft the narrative. Just think of the number of people saying oh no, they ruined his moment. That is a narrative spin right there.

The Beef

I don’t know if you saw my post above “another name”, and you’ve gone into a lot more detail than I did, but with primarily the same conclusions regarding Kemi’s comments and responses, but I was just wondering if you agree with me that CBS not only gave Jack, Christie, Nick and Jackson a “heads up” as to what was coming, but also most likely provided them with PR related help and guidance in preparing to answer the “allegations/comments” she made against them?

It goes without saying what they did and said was wrong, but last night just felt like (to ME) more of a CYA thing by CBS to ensure they don’t appear to be complicit in that mess, BUT Jack’s seemingly very prepared answer (read – not at ALL surprised) just makes me think J, C, N and J knew it was coming, and that they had help in preparing for it. Just curious what you think (or others too for that matter).

another name

Given the criticism CBS was facing in the midst of their own image makeover? They had faced a lot of criticism about their own bias in programming, so a racial bias issue on one of their programs would be viewed by executives as a negative to go along with the positive they’ve been attempting with their own image and programming choices in their fall lineup. I think they were given a heads up that some prejury cast members might have something to say. I think Jack was prepped weeks ago before his eviction, and he’s had weeks with production to hone the answers for when the press asks real world. I still think he gave the best answer, but his tone was the tone he would use in the house when he was inauthentically gaming them. I don’t think they knew that specific people would be callled out not just by Julie mentioning what some viewers thought about camp counsellor and camp comeblack motivations, but also by Kemi. As I had mentioned when Jackson would come out of d/r looking upset and putting his hat over his eyes a couple times this week: I thought d/r was preparing him for what he would face.

TTOTambz

The funny part of Holly calling him a “tool” was I think she meant it as he was a “resource” but it came out sounding like the derogatory term like “you’re a tool”.

I think even though he told Holly – you need to be prepared to answer any and all questions from jury which was pretty stand up of him even he didn’t expect her to go there or offer up a valid reason to vote for her instead.

Btw — did you also have the impression she would cut Jackson & take Nicole? (I really think she was going to although she’ll never admit it now).

House Stark

That is a great question and I think Holly would of cut Jackson. I still think she would of lost but it would of been awesome television.

another name

Do I think she would cut Jackson and take Nicole? no. Her entire i tried to play the game with loyalty and integrity spiel would be defeated. Her entire game shifted as of week three (her conversation with Kat in the boat room admonishing Kat for her feelings regarding Jackson being disrespectful to her and women in general). Her game became he’s my man. Given her personality as expressed on feeds, she would not have evicted Jackson. It doesn’t fit.

CujoWasHere

I agree with you on this. BTW, I’ve enjoyed reading your posts this season. Regardless if I agree or not I agree with your take on the situation, I’m always interested in your thoughts.

another name

Thanks. I’m thinking upon introspection my writing style on here (the voice I project) needs work. Today, If I remove myself and look at what I’m writing I think what an arrogant ass try to be a knowitall jerk, when a lot of it is bravado. That’s something I think I should work on. It’s supposed to be fun, and i’m on a soapbox. Something I think I should own, and modify and change. That and I need to edit. big. hope to read more of your thoughts and perceptions in the future. cheers.

Stfu

And that’s a wrap! He may not have been the most likable person but he definitely played the best game! Congratulations Jackson Michie!

BBBiotch

Michie’s behavior was super sketch. Not like a man who just won a half mil. He is really that concerned with how he was portrayed.

Maverick32

I think the video of his parents gave him the impression they were disappointed in him, and it really bothered him.

BBBiotch

Did they air their messages from home? I never saw them! Or the luxury comp.

TTOTambz

They never aired the family messages – I think that’s a first (and also usually done much earlier in the season). And to my knowledge no Jeff in the backyard. Instead they were handed cards with questions to answer and posted them afterwards (not live). Can’t ever recall that happening. Fortunately, today there will be backyard interviews from Rob Has a Podcast with Taran & Rob as well as Ika from BBCan. Those will more likely be unfiltered so there’s the potential to get a less watered down answer.

Summer Gowen

Wasn’t this the first year that we didn’t get to see the family videos? I watched the feeds and show and sure didn’t miss them

gladitsover

He never would have been concern if it hadn’t been brought to his attention.

another name

Simon and Dawg,
Thanks for the work you do. Thanks for sticking with it and covering the finale (i’m still on my way home, so to me it’s spoilers even if i already thought the season spoiled) lol.
You’re both great and appreciated.

Ungr8ful Bottom Feeder

If they did another all star season it should only be of America’s favorite winners.

CujoWasHere

That’s a great idea! It could also be a rude awakening for those that voted for them. Lol! Fun to see who AFP would be!

Cliffomaniac

The most cringeworthy awkward finale in Big Brother history. Holly & Michie’s answers and speeches were like thrown competitions, they purposely just didn’t try? And I suspected CBS would possibly have the pre-jurors say something about the behaviors in the house, but man, this was pretty bad. Michie didn’t get to enjoy his win lol, he looked shell-shocked. Glad Nicole got AFP. Definitely a memorable season for the wrong reasons. Hopefully it won’t scare off future contestants and make them act really cautiously to the point that they barely chat all season lol.

d...

michie’s responses were pretty good except the respecting women one. holly just rambled and then made a super arrogant y’all underestimated me pitch that was just insulting to the jury.

Franks fumes

Get ready for a more sanitized version next season if it could get more sanitized.

BB Watcher

the evicted houseguests all together was super entertaining. props to ovi, kemi, nicole, david and bella for calling the rest out for their shit. if only they did it sooner. but michie was the clear winner between him and holly

Jackstool

Agree with you saying glad they weighed in. I would vote Holly tho for putting up with that dbag.

Lisa

Such a disappointing season!!! On another note Thanks Simon & Dawg look forward to your spoilers every season you guys are the best!!!!!!

Ian’s Bedside Tissue Box

FUN FACT: Jackson Michie is the first winner in Big Brother history to request an immediate return into the house after finale night….For his own safety.

Kndpeanut

Thanks so much Simon and Dawg, it was the worst season ever but you guys were awesome! I stopped watching, just couldn’t watch asshat win but I’m very glad to hear Nicole won AFP! I’ll check out next season but if it’s bad again I think I’m done, fingers crossed!

Roisin Dubh

Simon, Dawg, as always, job well done and thank you from the bottom of my heart. You guys rule.

Sherry

Never seen a winner as subdued as Jackson. No smiling or laughing. Kemi and David got to him. I believe he truly didn’t know what they were talking about.

ugh

No, he did know what they were talking about, but playing dumb shut it down faster.

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Production must be horribly incompetent. First they pick Jackson as their winner and rig everything for him, then they decide to put on that spectacle with the pre-jury evictees, and finally they fail to prepare their handpicked winner for the accusations.

Damn, I sure hope production gets their act together next year.

Of course he had no idea what they were talking about.

TTOTambz

Yeah, that was a blindside for sure. If they were going to go there than at least show some film clips b/c the hamsters & non-feed watchers had zero clues what they were talking about. You can’t spend all season presenting an edited version with none of those things shown and then shift your narrative last minute. It felt very much like CBS was only trying to cover their own ass.

At least by the time Jackson did his backyard (ridiculous answer the questions off this card) interview he was smiling and said it was finally sinking in that he won.

I do have to say I literally spewed coffee laughing at Christie citing hormones as her reason for possibly saying something inappropriate. Gotta love her for sticking to her true self right to the bitter end.

ShruteBeets

You are so right, the nonfeed watchers in my family were completely taken off guard by the finale, there was no context, so the narrative shift made no sense and completely turned them off to the show.

Sleepy Joe Versus corn

Swaggie don’t hold your breath for Production getting a clue.

Don’t over think it

I believe he was being sarcastic about the conspiracy theorists.

Miss Conception

I do believe that if the evicted house guests had been interviewed before the jury votes were cast,the outcome would have been different.Sure,it influences the vote, but that is no different the the final two making their own case.BTW,if the stool had a vote,I do believe the vote would not have gone to either J or H.(After all,the poor stool received a lot of abuse.) Thanks Dawg and Simon for a great season,you are now free to have a Kraken attack!

Don’t over think it

They are sequestered for a reason. No outside influence from Facebook, Twitter, the news, family, friends and the show in its entirety.

Nancy P

Simon and Dawg once again thank you guys for keeping me informed your hard work and let’s face it this year it was soooooo hard to watch this cast is greatly appreciated hope to see you still here next summer. BB would not be the same without you. Enjoy your time off!!!

TTOTambz

This first part of this message is for Another Name (who often noted production interference this season & this may help clarify moving into future seasons). It’s a response from the FCC regarding some fans who got up in arms this season over what they felt was interference (I think it started during Jackson’s have not week when people were complaining). The FCC says “BB does NOT appear to meet the definition of a game show. Rather it is a for entertainment only program, somewhat similar to professional wrestling in that it is a pseudo contest IN WHICH THE OUTCOME IS FULLY OR IN SOME MEASURE PREDETERMINED.”

So, let us never question this fact again. They filed it that way which gives them the right to produce it that way (even to our chagrin).

https://twitter.com/jsclarke65/status/1177062771143299073

As for me – let me say thanks to Simon & Dawg especially, and all the posters who interacted. We may not always agree but it sure is fun to come here and interact. Congratulations to Jackson and Holly fans for the win/2nd & Nicole for her AFP.

See you all next season. Until then if you follow the NBA catch me on Raptors Republic and Thunderous Intentions. Ciao for now.

another name

Thanks for pointing out the FCC response. I had heard about it. I thought it started when he won his first veto… but that’s the same week as his have not week. is my face red. not as red as the watermelon rouge in the last five minutes of the show.
just finished watching the episode now.
I have some questions about odd d/r comments compared to feed things said between part 2 of hoh and tonight, but i’m just going to chalk it up to more of the stuff that won’t matter to me in about an hour. HAHA. Oh. Confetti.
ciao.

d...

yeah, for legal purposes bb is and always has been not defined as a game show.

America’s Favorite

Well that’s disappointing, but not surprising. This just solidified everything we’v known all along. Nice knowing you, Big Brother!

Season Six - Yes Please

Does anyone know from the live feeds what statements or events that drove Nicole’s decision to vote for Holly? I felt her statement had some directness to it.

TTOTambz

I think the combination of Holly telling Nicole how she (Nicole) reminded her of how she was at 24 helped. Also Holly outlined her game moves. Jackson’s confession about lying about Tommy was something she suspected & prob hurt him. Nicole’s big thing this season was Jackson wouldn’t just own “this is what I had to do to get here & denial of things he did”.

Nicole also had no clue Holly was as smart (mental comps) as she was so that probably weighed on her decision. She respected Holly for laying low, having allies, being honest (or at least she believes Holly was honest all the way through), took out bigger targets and played a game similar to what Nicole tried to play.

Also I just rewatched Ika Wong’s pre game interview with Nicole & she said “I’d rather lose & be respected than make it to the end & no one liked me b/c everyone thought I was mean.” So, I think how Holly treated people overall compared to Jackson (even though they got along) may have factored in.

I’ll always wonder if Holly would’ve pulled the switcheroo & taken Nicole – she’ll never admit to it now, but I kind of think based on Holly’s speech she may have.

ShruteBeets

I think Nicole seeing through Michies attempts at getting Nicole to take him if she won influenced her too. She saw right through his, “everyone hates me” strategy.

Cheech

Nicole tried the same gambit on Jackson and Holly.

another name

I seem to remember her saying to Jackson that taking ownership of his game would make or break her vote.

Don’t over think it

I thought she was just bitter but who knows really.

TTOTambz

Oh – and the other thing was she didn’t like how Jackson kept referring to anyone getting in the way of his title/winning. Holly & Nicole discussed this and neither seemed happy he felt the money was owed to him b/c that inferred neither of them deserved to be heard. While he DID play the best overall game the arrogance of stating it prior to “a jury of his peers” voting on what they felt was the best game bothered her.

She did also say in backyard Jackson played the best game so maybe she knew Holly wouldn’t win and wanted to give her a sympathy vote which would be in keeping with Nicole’s empathy for the underdog.

Get To Steppin Nicole

No statements or events just bitterness.

TTOTambz

Also notable: Dr Will re: the WORST game move of the season.

” Cliff should have absolutely listened to Nicole. (inference is voting out Holly). I think he’d be a lot better off right now and I think he’d be in a completely different position if he had given her opinions a little bit more weight. I think one of the bad game moves was that Cliff sorta wanted to be his own person and not really be open minded to other ideas.”

Preach Dr. Will PREACH!

Swaggie's Missing Brow

Yes, Dr. Will’s comments were so spot on, and I loved how he summed up Jackson’s game play. I look forward to his insights again next season…and can’t wait to see how Evel Dick plays people again.