Izzy “I think Cameron is more of a threat to us than Jag & Blue because I think Jag & Blue are clowns without Reilly.”

Quick Big Brother Spoilers

Head of Household:  Hisam
Nominees: Reilly & Cameron
POV Players: Reilly, Cameron, Hisam, America, Matt, Blue
POV Winner: Hisam
Veto Ceremony:
Havenots: 

Lock your ranks in before midnight

Veto players were picked-> Reilly (Houseguest choice picked Blue), Cameron (Drew America), Hisam (Drew Matt), America, Matt, Blue

Bathroom – Cirie, Izzy and Meme
Cirie leaves to go talk with Jag because he wanted to talk to her. Meme – what does he want to talk about? Izzy – I don’t know, that’s why I want them to talk so that I can find out. I think Jag knows that he’s got to find a new home and I think he is hoping to get Cirie. Meme – stop! Izzy – I know its my favourite thing ever.. that’s why I want them to talk because I want to hear what he has to say. Meme – Stop.. its funny! Already! So what are you going to do about Blue? Izzy – I don’t think that Blue is that.. I am not that worried about Blue. I think Cameron is more of a threat. Meme – I do too. Izzy – to us. Than Jag and Blue because I think Jag and Blue are clowns without Reilly. Once she is gone, then yes.. but Cameron is the next thing. Because then they don’t have numbers. We got to get rid of Red’s number one guy. Red is obviously is the first to go from us.. truthfully and Hisam. Let them feel comfortable. I bet he (Jag) is going to try and convince her (Cirie) to vote Cameron home to keep Reilly. Meme – I think its stupid at this point. Izzy – I think its stupid this whole time. Meme – I think that would be very silly at this point. Izzy – now Reilly thinks that Cirie and Felicia are voting for her to stay. Meme – OH!? You don’t say!? Izzy – because they had ONE conversation on day two.. and then that’s it.

2:40pm – 3pm Backyard – Jag and Blue.
Jag – we should talk with Hisam. The sooner he is awake. Blue – do you want to do it now? Jag – yeah we could just go up to the HOH or something. Blue – yeah, go grab him and then I’ll walk up in a few. Jag – no you should grab him. Blue – and then you walk up in a few? Blue laughs – mommy I’m scared. Jag – the main thing is .. we just vote with the house.. and the say we want to work with them. Blue and Jag join Hisam on the couch. Hisam – so have you guys been thinking what happens post Reilly? Jag – we’ve been wanting to chat with you. Hisam – so what are you guys thinking? Blue – so basically Jag and I have been talking and I told Jag our conversations about potentially what it would be like for us three to work together. I think that is something since early on that we’ve been interested in. There are a lot of people that I feel I just kind of got thrown onto one side. And I feel like there is a good amount of people that I wouldn’t pick for myself. And I want to play this game with a very loyal supportive group of people where we’re all fighting and participating for a different purpose. Jag – now is a time to reflect and think about moving forward. Hisam – I think post Reilly the split in the house stops being a split. So are you guys still working with the same people or have you moved away? What is the pulse of that? Blue – I think for me, I want to start playing my way and I know I have started making my own strides and having my own conversations. I feel good about the people I feel good about regardless of the side. Hisam – yesterday when we were talking you said you wanted to make a big move. What did you mean by that? Blue – Yesterday I was like I want to prove that I am in it with you. I really want to prove to you that I am someone that could work with you and between the three of us .. I wanted to keep noms the same. Hisam – I feel like the house had made an opinion about moving Reilly forward as hard as that is. I was thinking about what you said and yeah that would have been a really big move because she had picked you for house guest choice. I think the game is shifting and it will shift again. Jag – I get a similar sense of how people are starting to gauge who they want to work with. I think the three of us have been a constant. Hisam – you guys have been on my mind for sure and I can tell you I wouldn’t go against the brown on brown (Jag) thing and our thing (Blue).


3pm Bumper Pool room – America and Izzy.
Izzy – if it was just up to you, are you voting out Reilly? America – First off I think that it wouldn’t be good for Hisam to get anymore blood on his hands. I am not locked either way. I was thinking of having a conversation with him and seeing what he was hoping would happen because I want to be good with him. He is a good competitor and I want to be .. I want to work with strong players that I can count on. Izzy – yeah. America – and people that are not going to leave me out of decisions. Izzy – I believe in that too. I mean I think that is Reilly’s big issue… a lot of assumptions without.. America – considering anyone else. America – and its funny if you can see that.. I don’t think the core group sees it. Izzy – I mean you’re tight with Blue and she is unmovable when it comes to Reilly. America – exactly. Izzy – but I am not sure what Reilly has said or done to get them to cling to the sinking ship? America – and like they don’t tell me anything or any names. Its not about us, its about me. Izzy – but its also like ya’ll cling to this .. what makes you think I would ever work with you after the fact. Jared joins them.

3:20pm – 3:30pm Backyard – Cirie and Jag.
Cirie – if there are more than two votes they’re going to think it was me and Felicia and probably Jared.. maybe Cory. Jag – what if it was just one? Cirie – they’re not going to think Izzy because they don’t talk to Izzy. They expect, Matt, you and Blue for votes for her. Hisam for some reason thinks its going to be unanimous for some reason and I don’t know why. Jag – if you do vote that way and we keep Reilly.. obviously we are going to need a group of people that are all voting for Reilly to stay and.. Cirie – are you sure you’ve got that group? Jag – we’re going to have to make sure. I know you’re tight with Jared to right? Cirie – Mmmhmmm. I just don’t want to be left out in the cold. Jag – here is the thing, I know for sure me, you, Blue, Matt, and I want to say Jared and Cory and America. Cirie – oh lord are you sure about America? Jag – is she the one you’re doubting? Cirie – I have questions. I don’t really know where she stands. Jag – I feel like I can trust her. She’s been hanging out with me and stuff. Has she been hanging out with ya’ll? Cirie – No, not really. Jag – I think she is going to be solid. Cirie – I am just so scared to get caught up in all this mess. Jag – there are different ways we can talk to make sure everything is solid. People that are going to vote for Reilly are only going to do it if they know they have the numbers. Cirie – right, exactly. Jag – we’re going to have to be on the same page of who did it. Cirie – yeah that is super scary to me. The more and more I am getting scared because there is so much talking going on. You want me to make this big leap hoping nobody says anything? I don’t know Jag. Jag – yeah its scary. Cirie – it is. Jag – either way I got you. Cirie – I really like Reilly and I want her to stay but if she doesn’t.. you can’t .. I think they probably approach it that Reilly goes and I am open to that. Are we going to be able to save Reilly if we don’t .. I will still f**k with you heavy. Jag – I definitely want to work with you. I trust you. Cirie – I do too.

3:45pm Kitchen – Jag and Blue
Jag – I really want it to just be us three. I don’t want to bring anyone else in because then our hands are tied. Blue – okay. Jag – because that is the last thing that I want for someone else to join because then like bro I am cool with you, I am cool with him. I don’t want… Blue – not even Izzy? Because he was already talking with Reilly. Jag – I know but here is the thing.. we are talking a lot about working with him but Reilly stays.. that is the line. Like he knows that .. like we did not vote with him. The other side knows and then there is not much room to work with that side anymore. Unless they know what is going on. Blue – but are we also biting ourselves in the a$$ right now? Jag – by keeping Reilly? Blue nods yes. Jag – well that is what we have to think a lot about what is going on. Once we keep her we have to work with Hisam and we can’t really work with anyone on that side. And what we get lock in with is our side and their side. And that’s if we have everyone on our side locked. A blindside is going to be so tough to do. Not that it will be tough to do.. its going to be tough to navigate afterwards. Blue – lets finish our convo with him and then we will keep thinking. Jag – is there a way to bring more people to our side to vote for Reilly? It might be off the fact that Reilly is trustworthy whereas Cam spilled the beans… and who is going to want to work with him, you know what I mean? Maybe that is the pitch but someone from their side needs to pitch that. Blue – we will be the last decision to make. Jag – well we also can’t blindside our side. Now we’re treading in the other side of the house.

4:15pm Backyard Hammock – Matt and Reilly
Reilly – there is nothing that you can say to get him (Hisam) to use it (veto). Matt – I know, I want to work with you (Hisam) but I also want to work with you (Reilly) too. What if we made it past this week and.. Reilly – I just don’t want him to drop you after that. Matt – I am just going to say that you’re someone that I am really close with and my trust in this house.. and I want to trust him… and if you’re willing to keep someone that I am working with that would go a long way. Just talk about I want to work with you three. Major game talk has only been through you and him in a sense. I think us three are really good players. We can do really good things here. I am just going to say you’re going to have a target on your back for winning so many comps. Reilly – If he successfully gets rid of me this week .. he just started a war because all you guys are going to come for him. Matt – that’s what I want to tell him.. if Reilly is saved this week I won’t go for you (Hisam). Reilly – yeah but I don’t want you to say something so bold like that because then he is just going to come for you. Like you’re going to be next. So don’t ruin your relationship with him. Don’t fight so hard with Hisam because he doesn’t like me. We need to talk to other people. Matt – he said he wants to talk to me today. Reilly – don’t let him control the convo. If someone really wanted to work with me they wouldn’t be trying so hard to get me out of the house. He told me that he wants to work with me and he was putting me up in the same breath. If someone wants to work with me they’re going to prove it. Proving it is not putting me up and gunning for me to leave the house. I don’t even know if I can see myself working with him if I don’t leave this house. He is going to run this house. He is the perfect candidate to win this game. So many people love him. He is the blanket for some many of them. He is the most capable to win competitions and with him in power they know they’re safe so why would they want to get rid of their blanket. Matt – we need to find a way to flip them this week.. and we can. Reilly – flip the vote but not do it in public. Matt – oh yeah it has to be a blindside. Reilly – Like this could be a one vote situation.

5:40pm Backyard – Cory and Jared.
Cory – Dude, if we f**king get Hisam out we are going to go so far in this game. Jared – I know! That’s what I keep thinking about. I know next week is going to be something. Cory – if it is endurance, you cannot f**king drop. Jared – I know. Cory – I know that is f**ked up because I am also going to be up there. I just know your physical capabilities versus mine. Jared – we are going to make it happen. The only person I am worried about winning is Blue.. or America because I don’t know what the f**k that girl is going to do. Cory – I don’t know. I think America would backdoor Hisam. Jared – you think she would? Cory – I really do, because that’s what she talked about and I didn’t bring it up.

6:05pm – 6:23pm Living room – Jared and Izzy.
Jared – I was talking to Cory earlier.. so Cory obviously wants to go after Hisam next week 110% so I am not sure how ya’ll going to feel about it. He was like we should nominate Red and Bowie next week. Have one of them come down and put up Hisam because they both are competitors. My thing was wouldn’t it be smart to put up like f**king America and f**King like Jag. Izzy – I think so. Jared – and then let them hard to come down and then we backdoor Hisam. Izzy – why doesn’t Cory want to do Jag. He was like I don’t really care. Izzy – I think that would be better. I think it would be better for us to protect Red and Bowie a bit. I think if we have a shot at Hisam we should take it but if not we should take out Cameron.

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Martin

Are they really gonna keep Cameron over Reilly? If cirie really bows down to Hisam this week I would be flabbergasted.

un autre nom

Cirie doesn’t make a move unless Cirie came up with the move, controlled the move, and couldn’t be blamed for the move.
The difference with survivor: head of household and the tired cliche of do what the house wants. Technically the house is the majority, but for years it’s been turned into doing what the hoh wants.
The most recent time I remember an hoh being blindsided by a vote result was bbcan 10 week 3 kyle hoh, but let’s not forget the weeks on end Foutte who flipped debacles.

TTOTambz

We really do think so much alike. lol

After the Jag/Blue convo today where they were already saying if it looks like it’ll be close or a tie we should just all vote her out then proceeded to have contrasting convos – – one with Hasim about creating a trio alliance & one with Cirie about flipping the vote.

At that moment, I tweeted Crowd Control & The Handful were giving me full-on FOUTTE 2.0 vibes.

Also…
Don’t hate me for saying this but I agreed with Izzy — if Reilly leaves Blue & Jag won’t have any pull (she called them clowns).

In fact, Izzy has been much more palatable this week because she’s comfortable. She’s letting people talk without constantly interrupting, used logic in her chats, and been more laid back. I sort of got where Cirie was coming from about how she’s A LOT but at the same time she enjoys her. Week 2 Izzy is smart and funny. So, when she’s not being manic she’s someone who I could stomach a lot more than America for example who’ll stab anyone in the back on EITHER side.

She’s sort of the perfect shield too, bc as soon as she is in danger or paranoid it’ll be easy for Cirie to be safe if they go on the block together.

Perhaps it’s my advancing age, but I’d rather hang with someone for 100 days who makes me think, laugh & I know completely has my back.

Now check back with me in a week if the other side has power & she’s hyper-squirreling & my stance will likely shift back to being uber-annoyed by her.

un autre nom

my past and future messages saying why is reilly bad and izzy good for emotional volatility aren’t about reilly and izzy. those comments are about my complete disdain for psa spin control equaling lack of game owership i’m seeing from some houseguests and the 2 yardstick assessment process of some of the community.
when jared told izzy he couldn’t stand emotional people i said out loud ‘dude’s talking to a human mood swing that keeps screaming push me higher.’
I’ll never be an izzy fan. it’s not in me. she’s not nope, but i fear as soon as she doesn’t get her way, she will be.

Matthew schneider

Yes because theses players have no backbones

Martin

Jared, cirie ,izzy Felecia, hisiam ,and meme final 6 plus red final 7 is what it seems the show wants. To begin with it seemed suspect and personally didn’t not like cirie twist in conjuncture with limited week one hoh reign power Reilly had which she couldn’t nominate who she wanted! This handicap the show has put on week 1 HOH’s the last couple years has been A major design flaw! It’s been an intentional set up the first hoh by means that are out of their control.

Elly

It really ruined the game and I find the handful way more interesting than these other houseguests. Never watch Survivor and could care less about cirie. This season is fucked.

Matthew schneider

I guess bb like to cast a bunch of weak no backbone players

Robert

Warning to the East Coast: Big Brother will air late on CBS due to (extremely boring, useless) golf

Lioness

Watching this hoh comp, I wish it had been pushed back even more. Worst hoh comp ever!

Robert

I disagree. Looked fun to play in

Kate

It made the whole crew look ridiculous and insulted the viewers’ intelligence. Shame on BB.

Team Taylor

I still think Cameron gets evicted, but I don’t know how the votes would go.

Red is a lock to keep Cameron but that’s it. Maybe Cirie, Jared, and America vote for Cameron as a decoy to how the game is playing underneath Hisam’s nose.

un autre nom

episode delayed by golf.

un autre nom

Basics:
Hisam has made a side deal with Jag. Sorta with Blue.
He’s told his professor group they should pull in Matt and America.

So 16 houseguests and he wants 15 houseguests on one side going into week 3.
Well, at least he’s stopped insinuating number 16 is a racist and a homophobe since the 37 hour feedblock before eviction in order to give himself validation for his hate-on.

un autre nom

my numbers are off by 1. i forgot 2 people left week 1.

Racinjunki

Guess we know now why the feeds were down, Grod didn’t want us to find out Jared was stuck in the neither region. AND what was up with that Neithergorgan’s voice? I couldn’t understand a dang thing it said. BORING

Robert

That was for the HoH part where the feeds did come back. No one knows what took so long for the feeds to come back from the POV competition

TTOTambz

LMAO, I thought it was just me. I put on the closed captioning for the first set of clues then caught his cadence and understood the rest.

Eric

I turned the volume up really high and still struggled understanding what it was saying..

un autre nom

HOH/NOMS
EPISODE NOTES
RECAP
nether region warning
handful/bitches formation
professors split house
Felicia saved.

SCARYVERSE HOH
Nethergorgon quiet over distorted voiceover… had to pump up the volume still hard to hear.
Nethergorgon: it’s nice to see bb17 Austin found his shoes… but why is bb20 JC standing on his shoulders?
Cirie repeats her name in alliance
America can’t remember all her members
hide and seek musical chairs.
2nd place is nether
Manson calls himself daddy. cringe
Reilly books it rather than stay in nether. oops
round one
meme, blue manson out.
round two
matt jag america iggy cirie out
round three
cory throws
cory felicia red bowie out
round four
final 2
hisam v jared
jared thinks he won. skipped a clue.
hisam picked the other one. without clues.
HISAM HOH
Retell and Jared in nether region.
Bowie appears more in episode than feeds. it’s weird.
Showmance goo… Late night rats. it’s not a showmance but Grod tried editing one for required tinkly music usage
Jared message 2
still haven’t shown Family Style alliance breakup.
It’s weird.
Hisam used her breakdown to engineer game info? the good people. empathy. shush that’s what we just saw in flashback.
Hisam one on ones skips the mob intimidation threats.
Matt plays dumb.
Jared returns. Hisam gives him orders.
Not showing Jared flipped sides.
Reilly tries 2x.
Cirie suggests Felicia or Jag.
Jared chooses Jag.
Confusion like when you see Bowie speak on feeds….whuzzat?
Hisam targeting Reilly.
Manson is Iggy and Cirie’s choice.
Manson is fine with his daughter Squeaky being axed
NOMS
Squeaky and Manson.
straightforward integrity..
Jared sorry d/r is shit. he is with the professors.
Manson wants to dance.

STILL ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT EDIT THAT DENIES EXISTENCE OF FEEDS

Terry

I think Jared threw that HOH competition. He saw the message on the car about the 4 earlier and still went to the 4 door.

un autre nom

he never ran to the chainsaw shed in any of the rounds. never even ran past it because it was the furthest away from centre. Therefore he never saw don’t go part of the message.

TTOTambz

But he didn’t see the other message “don’t pick” that was in a room he never went in. He thought the “four” meant that’s the door.

In hindsight it was better for him he didn’t win.