“I’m glad to sit this one out .. a nice good old classic Cameron win”

Quick Big Brother Spoilers

Head of Household: Cameron
Nominees: Mecole and MOMMA FE
POV Players: Mecole, MOMMA FE, Cameron, America, Blue, Matt (Jag is hosting)
POV Winner:
Veto Ceremony:
Havenots: ?

Lock your ranks in before midnight

The situation Nothing really has changed.

8:12 am Jag, Blue and America
Blue asks America if MEME will pick her for veto.
America – she has talked to me at all. Has she talked to you?
Blue – when we were cooking. I have a feeling she is going to call one of us.
America – I think so
Blue – which is random for me.
Jag – do you want to get picked?
America – it’s fun to play
America points out that MEME will stay against Felicia.
Corey joins them.
Blue says she f**ed up “BRO She came to MAtt and I. asking If I get houseguest choice would you all play for me. We’re like YEAH YEAH YEAH.. But would you use it to take us down.. Matt was like yeah of course..”
Blue adds her and Cam were talking in the kitchen and thought they were alone but Felicia was close and could have heard. Blue said Felicia asked her and Matt if they would take her down if they won veto and they said yes but they don’t plan on using it.
Blue later apologized to FElicia that she overheard her saying this she said “You know I had to kiss A$$ with cameron I have to be nice to him I’m sorry for what I said.. Obviously I will play for you.. I didn’t say I would take her down”
COrey – she’s in the gym
They laugh
Corey – if you pick me I will compete in the competition

Corey – SHe (Fe) was mad at Cameron this morning.
Blue – I don’t know what that is about.
Corey – Cameron and Felicia were having a spat .. Cameron was sitting on the counter and she was saying ‘you’re not supposed to sit on the counter. Cameron was like I’m waiting for the coffee.’
America – I was there for that it was nothing BIG. She walked away and Cameron said ‘Felicia decided to talk to me’
America – she turned around ‘what did you say?’
Corey – exactly it wasn’t big..
Bowie – Maybe it was all the muttering when she came into the room she was RAW RAW RAW
America – I didn’t even think of it as a spat

8:57 am Feeds return after Veto players were picked. Felicia picked America. MEME picked Blue, Jag is hosting.
Jag – Blue gets houseguest choice..
Corey – I don’t think it’s that surprising They spend a lot of time in the comic room. Cirie and Blue.
Corey – I don’t think Blue will use it.
Coey – I’m glad to sit this one out
Jag – same
Corey – a nice good old classic Cameron win.. Maybe Matt.. Actually I want America to win
Jag – A new person winning would be cool
Corey – I don’t want a replacement nom if it’s not necessary

9:03 am
Matt – this could be a long one.. If it’s basement and it’s be one by one. Like the haunted house or something


9:04 am Felicia seems down.

9:15 am now we wait


9:18 am Cirie and Bowie
Cirie giving the retell about the FElicia/cam spat. (more or less what Corey said)
(Cirie and Bowie both kinda roll their eyes)


9:24 am Cirie and Blue (HArd to hear)
Cirie says Felicia heard her say they weren’t going to use the veto on her.
Blue – I know I talked to her..
They laugh hard.

9:26 am Fe and ME
Fe – they’re all so fake.. they think I’m their friend they’re not my friend. People that are your friend’s don’t shift based on your position.
FE – I’m sure they all knew.. they knew. LIke I said I had a conversation with Corey earlier it made me think somehow he already said something.
Felicia says during this conversation she had with COrey last week where he mentioned may Felicia and MEME would go up if Cameron won HOH. HE added that Cirie is liked by everyone.
FE – I was like WHAT.. okay
Feeds flip.

9:30 pm Cameron and Matt
Cameron – Clearly it’s a lot harder to handle this thing with grace. YOu wanted to come at me last week like an a$$hole.. it’s not as much fun when you recognise you are the one everyone is voting out this week. It’s a little harder to be good..
Matt – just got to secure this win..

10:00 am Felicia and Cirie
Fe says if she has to sit in wet clothes for 3 hours she’s not going to deal with it well today. Feeds flip. When we get back.. Silence.

10:15 am Corey and Cirie
Corey – odds are Noms stay the same but if you are a replacement nom you got my vote.
Cirie – I appreciate it.
Corey – I’m in a bit of a waste land. You have the ‘Comics room’ .. you know I’m going to stop saying that. When people would say the comic room they meant you and Izzy. There’s a you, MEME and Felicia just in terms of who talks and hangs out in there.
Corey – outside of you I talk to MEME.. Felicia seems over it. You got the Bros.. I feel good but I kinda…
Cirie – you are a better spot there than I am though
COrey – I think so i’m in a better spot with them (Bros) and you are in a better spot with them (comic). WHos more likely to win a competition? Probably Cameron and JAg. But people are not being open to me. the only people being open with me is America.
Corey says he doesn’t feel great.
Cirie doesn’t feels great “You have less of a reason not to feel great.. All around than I do”
COrey – in the Immediate future you could definitely be a replacement nom. Next week I don’t think you’ll go up.

10:35 am Chit chat while we wait.


10:38 am Corey, Matt and America
They’re trying to figure out who Cameron would put up if Veto is played. They think it might be Cirie.
Corey – Even if Felicia wins it’s not all that bad. It’s not ideal
Matt says it’ll be scary if Felicia wins an HOH. “But she’ll probably go after Cam”
They talk about how you never have a bad chat with Cirie.
America – SHe’s so nice.
They laugh at how IZZY and Cirie had to of had a tough time getting all their alliances straight with meetings.
They talk about his Hisam was SO intense week 2 saying he was the mastermind but it was really Cirie and Izzy.
Matt – He was like I’m the mastermind and now they toss me. I created this now they are getting rid of their best player.
Corey – To be fair they did get rid of their best player.
America – they did
Matt points out their side hasn’t won a lot of HOH’s.
Corey – it’s been crazy.. we just do Vetos..

Corey – Cirie was telling me that BOWIE has climbed up in the ladder of people.
America – because they see her getting really close to Cam
Corey – and Matt, And Jag and probably me
America – she’s just not in the comic room anymore
Matt – ohh yeah that’s smart .. they were mean to her and now she realizes ohh we can finally get rid of them.
Matt – Bowie is happy to play with us versus them cause they always you know ..
America – they are still making comments about it.. ohh Bowie is up there with the boys that’s her new crew..
Matt – why do you think she’s up there hanging out with them cause we’re not mean to her
America – they were like ohh on Cam’s HOH she’ll be up cam’s butt.. Something like that.
Corey – I’m surprised they would say that to you.
america – I really don’t think they car
Corey – there’s only two people I’m scared if they won HOH. Blue and MEME.
Matt – I feel that way too
Corey – CIrie I’m not worried about
Matt – she would take a shot at Cam
Corey agrees. Says Cirie’s noms would be Bowie and Cam.
America and Corey point out that Blue is getting VERY close to Cirie.
Corey – MEME picking her was scary
COrey – Blue has been hanging out in the comic WAY more.. it’s scary because she’s a really good competitor.. I can’t beat her worth sh1t.
Matt – Felicia did not look happy

11:00am Studying, Chit chat, Waiting

11:52am Bedroom – Cam, Matt, Bowie and Jag.
Cam tells them about how this morning Felicia got after him for sitting on the counter. “Do you sit on the counter at your house?” Cam – yeah! And that was it. Matt – no good morning .. just do you sit on the counter? Cam – she said oh well normally people think its disrespectful if you put your nasty butt on the counter or something like that. Jag – OOHhhhh.. you do that every morning. Cam – yeah she is normally joking with me .. not this morning. So I said she is cracking. I’ll let that go but then you were there and you were like Huh? And I said oh Felicia felt the need to speak to me this morning. She came walking back and said good morning Cameron what made you say I felt the need to speak to you this morning? I said you didn’t say good morning. You just said something about me sitting on the counter. I am going to try and take the high road here because she was a d**k to me two weeks ago. Get real! I’ll quote Cameron on this one .. f**k no!

12:13pm Bedroom – America, Cameron, Matt and Bowie
Bowie – we need to win. One of you actually needs to win… And then pull Felicia down. Cam – Exactly! America – that’s the plan. Cam – and then put America up. Bowie – when she pulled your name (America) she was not happy.. do you recon? Cam – She wasn’t happy the whole time because I pulled the person she asked to play and then Meme pulled the other person she asked to play. America – her second choice. Bowie – by the time she got to you she didn’t care. Didn’t she say she wasn’t going to pick. America – she didn’t say she wasn’t going to pick me but it was like .. you know.. Its not you.. it ain’t for me. Cam – I thought you had a final four alliance? America – no it wasn’t a final four it was a we’re good sort of thing but like obviously it wasn’t a thing. Bowie – did she say that. Cam – yeah. Bowie – what else did she say? Cam – nothing worth anything. Bowie – was that your meeting .. she was trying to throw people under the bus? Cam – oh hard!

12:16pm The live feeds switch to the pound cams… the power of veto is starting now…

3:35pm Still blocked.

4:08pm Still nothing.

5:36pm No feeds for you.

6:30pm Nothing but cats and dogs..

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Matthew schneider

The sad is they dont trust america because she leaks info so did jag,matt,cory,blue,cameron they are nothing but hypocrites america does it no 1 trusts her everyone else does it its ok example it was matt and jag who told jared about the izzy vote it would have been 6 to 3 vote not 8 to 1 a blindside on cirie jared and blue america didnt say a thing and they blame her

Robert

It’s a mixed bag. They do blame America for things she’s not responsible for (for example Felicia’s comment to Cameron about him and America) but other stuff is true even if some have done the same things. Jag has definitely leaked stuff unnecessarily like America; Blue is hard to figure out because you never know what her motives are

azmdw

Ok, from reading the update above from Simon & Dawg, they mentioned taking Felicia off the block, and Cam will put America up ?

But according to who was in the room talking about this, America was there ? It said America, Cam, Matt & Bowie were all there talking.

Why would they say take Felicia down, and put America up, with America in the room ?

I’m confused ???????

Nether Region Euphemism

It was sarcasm.

azmdw

Thanks

michele

Though Felicia may not be seen as a threat, I see a benefit to putting her up on the block and actually sending her home. Cameron obviously was nobody’s buddy in the house before he came back in (except Bowie). They all had Cam has a target. Now that Cam is back in the house, he is building trust (alliances) to further him in the game. He can’t win every comp so he needs some alliance members to get him further. So, this week, why not take a shot at Felicia to demonstrate to his alliance(s) members that he is working in tandem with them.

Next week, all things can change, but this is a good move for Cam THIS week given recent events.

d….

I understand and agree with the theory of the strategy but I don’t think it will work and think cam was probably better off putting up jag and Matt to send home a comp threat or possibly put up Cory and America to break up the pair

Nether Region Euphemism

Jatt wants Cam to help them evict Cory before they think of targeting the former. Once Cory is gone, Cam is a likely target.

Cam wants to keep America as a potential ally. She’s useful to have on his side and doesn’t win comp.

The worst social move for Cam right now is to give any ammo for the house to place him back into evil snake category.

Fe personally hates Cam and would throw his name up as target to subsequent HOHs, since no one wants to take out Cerie.

d...

jatt wants to play the middle and has no intention of winning a hoh comp ever. they’re mostly hoping blue takes a shot at cory. cam is inconsequential to them.

cory wants to get out comp threats as he knows that failing to win comps is the biggest threat to his game. he’s kinda banking that either the hoh or veto will be something that favors him or america and we’re getting to the point that one is near guaranteed to always compete. cam is a threat to his game and cam should feel likewise about cory.

Gan ainm

It seems like a wasted HOH but you don’t want a Cirie Felicia Meme Blue voting block in jury so it’s best to get one out this week unless you plan to take one to final 2.

Meme's Muse

This is a no brainer. Felicia is going this week , no question. Felicia can’t win a comp ( neither can Cirie for that matter, no mights about it, the chops for it aren’t there anymore).They talk about next week because in the end no one will go against Cameron, he wants Felicia gone, she is no loss to anyone’s game so yeah they will vote her out . I had high hopes for Meme thinking she may pull out wins like Kaycee did but this is not her game. Her rants are sometimes “good tv” and she has a good read on folks, but she has no allies..no one person who would run or risk running with her should she finally take some initiative for her game( voting out Izzy wasn’t that big” of a deal for her)Mat and Jag remain naive and Jag has had some lightbulb moments but he bends to often to whomever is in his ear. He is a great guy and I would bet outside the game anyone would be glad to call him friend. Matt has a good read on people and emotional intelligence, but I can’t get with his A. Tate influence. Cam owns the game comp wise, but his social skills are still cringe worthy ( and you need both skill sets in this game. When he put his legs over America’s and she pushed him away, IMO that says it all! He crossed a line when he asked her if Cory had gotten “handsy” with her. That’s not his place to know nor ask. When Cam feels confident he calls himself daddy when he is not is grumpy and grouchy not the “graceful ” person he imagines himself to present. But without him this game would be boring to watch as these houseguest are just not entertaining, their seems to be no sense of fun or laughter for too long among them.Cam does bring( and has bought) the drama and conversation! I will be just as happy to see Blue and all her “fakeness ” for the Instagram fame she believes is waiting for her after the game ends as I was when Jared left. Cory will get crowned winner, because he is thinking and playing this game like chess, which you have too in this game to go far. He KNOWS Cam and can beat Cam at his own game. Watch Corey as he slowly and subtly puts his persuasive skills to work in the next week or so.
Cirie, well she’s been tired of this game for a long time now, she is no threat to anyone, she knows now this game wasn’t for her and they can ( and will) take her out anytime.I think she would relieved. Bowie, well Bowie will coast along as long as she can so long as she doesn’t have to win HOH and decide who to nominate,Count on her vote if you want someone out. I wish she were the strong player I think is really lurking inside of her. But Bowie is smart, read the room, and perhaps this is the way she has to play it. Too bad she was treated so badly by several.. because now it’s their downfall. Karma! Cam is smart to want to bring her to the F2.

d….

I’m far less confident Cory has this locked up. A late game hoh win by Matt or jag and he is toast. He only really has America that wants him in a final 2. Everyone else will eventually take a shot at him

Gan ainm

I actually think Cirie is a threat but more so in the jury house.Evicting Felicia removes one bitter juror but Cirie has the ability to sway a jury against someone she doesn’t like.

azmdw

I don’t have any pity for Felicia, she was all about get rid of Cam. Now that the tables have turned, karma is a bitch. Felicia see now how most of the people in the house prefer Cirie over her, Meme is with Felicia, but if push comes to shove, I wonder how long Meme would remain faithful to Felicia.

Felicia can mope around the house all day, she is constantly knocking Bowie, why would Bowie hang out or be faithful to Felicia. When they felt they didn’t need Bowie, they didn’t clue her in or make her feel she was on the team, now that Bowie is with Cam, Matt & Jag, or Bowie seems more relaxed.

Felicia is pissed, get over yourself Felicia, your HOH win was simple, easy, took no skills, was not physical, it was anybody’s chance to win, you didn’t do any thing spectacular.

Your HOH was based on pure luck, and it went you your head, for the past MONTH, all we’ve heard is who you will put up, but what you seem to forget is, to be in a position to be able to put someone on the block, you need to win the HOH Competition.

If you can’t win a HOH competition, then shut up, sit down, and stop saying who you are going to put up, Felicia runs her mouth, can’t keep a secret to save your life, walks around the house in that bath robe, interrogates people, nobody trusts you, they won’t give you the full plan, you’ll go and blab, and mess everything up.

Felicia is pissed Cam is the one who’s getting her evicted, but the week Cam was evicted, she was making sure he knew he was leaving, she even had jokes, she thought it was funny how nobody was talking with Cam, wow, look how the tables have turned.

Let’s see if Felicia can actually win the Veto 100% on her own, and save herself.

un autre nom

Is this week basement veto?
Eyeroll. I’ll keep my kvetch to myself. It’s either ind. time or seperate booth. prodo decides. Shudder. Not a kvetch.

Meme chose Blue hg choice? So, the person Cam named replacement if Felicia came off the block is playing as hg choice for the person they’d sit next to? sideye.

Cirie still hasn’t competed in a veto. There ain’t no Cirie chip in that bag. shush. I mentioned week one that Cirie wouldn’t play veto until the number were down so that everyone had to play.

I’m ignoring a lot, because I’m not feeling it right now.
The feedblocks surrounding hg’s talking to Cam about getting rid of Cory so he can juryhouse America… we see you prodo.
Anything that points at that whole weird subplot and hg’s pimping out America for their own safety is being cut when it’s said directly to Cam, but included in retells.
We’re pulling that old sanitizing trick this year? Been a while for US. BBCan it was most recently Jess quit by voteout and Marty having ptsd issues (multi day feedblocks followed by 10 min feedblocks every time it was mentioned) and most infamously bbcan 6 EVERY time Paras showmancing was mentioned. She didn’t want showmancing or making out during feedblocked booze nights to be part of her winner story, and prodo cut feeds any time it was mentioned.

As far as discussions about showmancers goes: we learned during BBCan 7 that part of the casting process for women was being asked if they would showmance, and part of casting process for ‘leading’ men was being shown pictures of the women’s faces and asked which one they would showmance. We further learned that women that say yes to mancing then decide they don’t want to…leave pre-jury. We also heard whispers there’s a stipend bonus for showmancing. BBCan used to drop the ball a lot in prodo secret seepage on feeds. Especially seasons 6 and 7.
How does this apply to BB25? America’s an alternate. Blue’s showmance with Jared was always ‘off.’ Jared def wanted showmance fuqboy cred. Who did America replace?

Jazzy

Cirie never did well in Survivor competitions. Am I the only one that thinks it’s odd that her chip has never been picked in the veto draw? I’m starting to wonder if it’s even in there.

Tammie

Yah I wondering that as well. How is that even possible. Just seems fishy

fvrplaid

This was one of those things that I didn’t really think about until I started thinking about Veto players this season and others. It’s a random draw…but what proof do we have that every HG actually has a chip in that box that we cannot see in. It is a little odd that the same people keep getting picked and Houseguest Choice chips keep popping up. For today’s draw there should have been six named chips in the box, but they never say how many HG’s Choice chips they are also putting in there. However, for two people to draw a choice vs. a name seems like they are stacking a few more of those in there than the names giving a better chance of who they (players & production) want to play to do so.

un autre nom

67 days. No veto plays. It’s a North America record.
Stuntcasts negotiate a signing bonus to appear. There was talk in bb22 of riders being part of that negotiation.
Cirie didn’t do horribly in out of water team comps that didn’t involve balance. She used her size to her advantage against the twig girls in grapple type comps. That said… not a compbeast.

The Beef

It’s VERY strange that her chip hasn’t been drawn at least once in all of these weeks. Random draw? Maybe not.

michele

It was likely part of her contract.

Paul Sucks

Mama Fr on the block…come on Otev!!!

Time to unleash the comp beast!!!

fvrplaid

In my opinion, one of the things that makes BB boring over the years is the lack of new competitions. (Same thing with Survivor actually) BB has the issue of limited space, but I would think that production must know that they need something new when from the beginning the HG’s are crossing off which comp they have done and anticipating what the next one will be based on previous seasons. I also think that it would shake things up if everyone were allowed to participate in Veto comps. (They should not be able to cite lack of space for this b/c if they have enough room for all to be in HOH’s then it should not be a problem with a Veto)

Paul Sucks

Totally agree that it would be nice to see a season with all new comps that none of the super fans see coming.

I was just being more snarky towards watching Felicia in a physical comp. Although she would probably be the first one out so the humor of it would be short lived.

bro

I disagree. What makes it boring is people throwing competitions and not even trying.

Someone else mentioned in another thread that they should add a cash prize to motivate higher participation. How much would it take to make someone think twice?

un autre nom

Problem:
the guys that don’t win a comp are going to say they threw it whether they tried or not to protect their egos.

The Beef

I almost broke my finger hitting the thumbs up button! If they gave a $5,000 bonus for each comp win, can you not just hear the losers bitching and moaning about how much money player X has and how big his/her target has become, but player X just keeps counting their money while racking up those comp wins, and trying to steamroll the game!

On the other hand, it could work the other way and make more players want to throw because of said target growth. You don’t know if you don’t try it, so I’d be on board to give it a shot and see how it works out. The current model certainly isn’t keeping anybody from throwing comps, that much we know.

no mo bro

Production could even up the prize money if they wanted to force a certain scenario. I’d like to see what some people’s morals are worth. How much will it cost to buy them?

Spot ON

” I’d like to see what some people’s morals are worth. How much will it cost to buy them?”
¶¶¶¶¶¶¶

Well, if we are going to guage morals in the U.S. (given that BB25 is based in the U.S.), it seems as if the standards of behavior or beliefs concerning right from wrong is low to non-existent; given the hamster’s behavior witnessed thus far. I suspect that these hamsters will sell out at any price their dignity and reputation. Even for a nickel.

Perhaps a second source of inquiry is to look at how the members of the U.S. Congress, and other in “public office” do and say. There is no cure for the “The corruption of public morals” except voting wisely.

Another example, a true case, is the following: A bank robbery occurred, and soon thereafter, a “hit” was called for on one of the suspects. A “hit-man” was recruited for 200k. There was already a 500k REWARD leading up to the arrest and conviction of the subject ( the target of the hit)! The hit-man was eventually arrested before carrying out the act. American morals, eh? How pathetic, eh?

no mo bro

The days of watching people hold out till they started shaking.. collapsing in pain they tried so hard, are over. Now everyone is so afraid of becoming a target they are scared to win HoH. It’s a race to the bottom. All they need to decide is who is gonna drop 1st. It’s a sad place. Live CBS made the wall competition seem like a competition. Those of us who saw what really happened on the wall, know there was no competition at all.

Giving a monetary incentive and/or immunity for TWO weeks could make a huge difference.

no mo bro

As a side note, I meant to say: TWO weeks for HoH competition. One week immunity for other comps.

The Beef

100% agree with you regarding the wall comp. I watched it live and watched while one after another of the “real” competitors jumped off that wall in very short time periods (America, Meme, Cory, Matt, and finally Blue and Bowie). Jag I’m not sure of, but I think he probably threw it as well, since they all knew Jared wanted to get Cam out, and it was a pretty disgusting thing to watch in what is supposed to be one of Big Brother’s most iconic competitions.

Then when I watched it on the network show, they even edited the final 3 players to make it look like there was more time between when Blue jumped, then Bowie, and finally Jared to be like 6 or 7 seconds, when in reality all 3 of them came off of that wall in less than 1 second. It was like a race to see which one could dive off first, after Blue did. Bowie damn sure did NOT want to win, only to outlast Blue, but CBS didn’t want the casuals to know that apparently, so they cut and edited to make it look longer, and then did it again to make it look like Jared could have lasted longer (I think). No doubt in my mind all 3 came off in less than 1 second.

Another Dixie

I want to get to the finale & realize that they didn’t do the comic comp, or OTEV, or the stupid robot didn’t show up. I think the predictability of the comps is due just to laziness of production.

ThisisntSurvivor

It just occurred to me that only two women have one a competition all season. Reilly, Felisha.

no mo bro

Where are the damn feeds. I’ve had enough of my own family for one day.

Dawg

LOL Hopefully the feeds will be back soon!

Robert

I am thinking that they were taken to somewhere in the Paramount Lot for this comp plus it being done 1 contestant at a time and that is why the feeds are still down

Dawg

Yes, most likely. Which comp do you think it might be? Otev? Zingbot? Comic Superhero? Hide the veto?

no mo bro

All those competitions could easily be held in the back yard. I’ve heard the house guests speak of the basement. If it’s in the basement and one at a time, it might be something like The Black Box.

Dawg

Ah yes, the black box would be a good one!

Robert

I doubt it was Zingbot (if we get that it will probably be when jury starts). I think Otev would have been done by now. If it is Exorcist themed, I have a feeling it is a competition where Matt could be the one with the longest time again

Dawg

Yes, that could be when Zingbot happens. And yes, it definitely seems like a timed comp so it will be interesting to see what happens!

no mo bro

OMG! A commercial! This might be a good sign! Please lord… I just want to say, “Not now hon, the feeds are on”.

no mo bro

Nope. Back to the pound. DAMNIT… Now I’m just sitting here hoping for another commercial. DAMN YOU CBS!

no mo bro

They’re back. Good cuz I was about to strangle someone!

no mo bro

And gone again. WTF CBS??

no mo bro

And back again! I can’t take this mental torture!