Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Keanu
Nominees: Morgan, Mickey, Vince, Ashley
POV Players: Kelley, Keanu, Mickey, Morgan, Lauren, Vince
POV Winner: Morgan
Veto Ceremony: Morgan used the veto on herself. Keanu put up Ashley
Havenots: Lauren, Ava, Vince
9pm Lounge Room – Morgan and Ashley
Morgan – he asked me when I was in the shower, what am I supposed to say no? Ashley – no. Morgan – yeah but even if who gives a f**k! The fact that making someone a sandwich is like making you make a face at me is CRAZY! Like respectfully that’s f**king wild! And I have a vote this week. You know what I’m saying? Even though it ain’t going, you know what I’m saying? Like.. Ashley – No, I know.
Morgan – F**k me. You know? I got it. You know what I mean? Like, it’s just f**king crazy. I don’t know, like to me that’s just fucking wild. Ashley – I’m screaming. Morgan – But I also feel like where, where I’m at the point with her, I know she’s lying to me about. I mean, I know she’s not going to keep Vince, but the fact that she can’t just stand up and handle business.. I’m shocked that she’s even pretending, ’cause everybody in the house knows that she’s not. Ashley – why does she do that every week? Morgan – I don’t know why. And like, maybe because it’s me, but that’s the thing where I’m like.. I just don’t .. I don’t f**k with sh*t like that. But for me, I’m supposed to be one of your closest allies but you can’t tell me to my face.. and not act like.. Ashley – well because she needs your vote though. Morgan – yeah and she ain’t getting it! Ashley – I am just saying in her head. Morgan – to me I just think that’s f**king shady!
Kitchen – Vinny watching Morgan clean..
Morgan – how are you feeling. How did your talk with Mickey go? Vinny – good. Morgan – I don’t feel good about her. You or Ashley have to win, like she HAS to go! Vinny – lets talk when we have time. They head into the storage room. Morgan – I have never wanted someone to leave this house more. Its actually just getting to the point where I am just trying to keep my cool. Vinny – where can we go talk? Morgan – the gym. Vinny – you finish cooking first.
9:25pm – 9:50pm Lounge Room – Ashley, Rachel and Will
Ashley – Who is she in the loop with? Maybe Lauren? Rachel – Lauren wouldn’t know that. Ashley – yeah, Lauren told me yesterday. She said just so you know if you’re sitting next to Mickey, you’re a 100% good! That’s what she said. I am like how did she know that. Will – it would be straight up unanimous. Goodness, great for you. Ashley – I know that’s why I hope she doesn’t win (Blockbuster). I would rather be sitting next to her to feel more comfortable. Will – right. Ashley – even though I know I have the votes against Vince. Its still like.. its still so close. Because I don’t think Mickey would flip. Why is she lying to Morgan saying she is going to vote to keep Vince. Rachel – WAIT!? She said she was going to.. Ashley – SSHHHHHHhhhh.. You’re so loud! Will – what are you talking about? Rachel – she (Mickey) said that she was going to keep Vince? Ashley nods. Rachel – What the f**k! Ashley – to Morgan. I’m pretty sure she’s lying but also I don’t like that she even said that. Will – I don’t like that she said that either. Rachel – why would she even say that? Ashley – she did that last week. Apparently she swore she was going to keep Katherine over Ava. Rachel – OH MY GOD! Ashley – I just found that out. Rachel – yeah she’s got to go! Ashely – she swore to Katherine she was keeping her over Ava. Like what the f**k! Rachel – that is crazy. Ashley – I know! I just found that out today.. I don’t even remember who.. Morgan or Keanu or somebody told me that today. Will – why would she even say that.. tell somebody that? Ashley – I guess Katherine was one of the people trying to get Mickey on the block during his HOH because she told Vince. She just works overtime.. I don’t know why she .. Just when I am feeling bad for her. Will – right!? Ashley – and then Morgan comes in and tells me you know Mickey told me that she’s voting for Vince over you. Rachel – over you.. that’s CRAZY! Ashley – that is why I don’t want to be on that block next to Vince because I am going home if she does that. Rachel – that’s crazy. Will – you know if you share that information Morgan and Mickey will be like this tomorrow.. they’re going to be playing each other. Ashley – oh yeah I am not going to tell it to Mickey. Like why the f**k would you say that? Rachel – that’s crazy! Ashley – I don’t even like that she said that .. HELLO! Rachel – I don’t like that she said that either. Because its so disrespectful and like you’re literally her girl .. like what the f**k! Will – She can’t do that, she will lose .. literally lose me, Ava, you (Rachel). Ashley – You think she would? Will – if she did that I will not talk to her no more. That will be it! Ashley – I was trying to not have a reaction but of course inside.. Will – She will be dead to me in this house! I’m f**king, I’m telling you straight up! I will never talk to her again. Rachel – me too. Ashley – Morgan just told me. Rachel – that’s crazy. Ashley – She was like I know she was bothered that I made Keanu a sandwich. I could tell by her face. Rachel – Mickey and Vince had a really long chat in the train room. If she really did that Ashley. Ashley – yeah I don’t want to think about it. I don’t want to go home. Will – I will be done with her. She better.. yeah, yeah.. Rachel – I don’t know why Morgan would tell you that too. She’s trying to save Vince. Ashley – I think she’s pissed. She’s bothered .. because I guess Mickey’s been making faces at her all day. Will laughs. I don’t think in my heard she would keep Vince though because on a game level it doesn’t make sense. Will – Mickey would be the next one going home if that happened. Ashley – exactly. Because she is already target number one.. she would go home… the next if she doesn’t win HOH. Ashley – I know.. I mean hopefully she’s not that dumb but maybe she’s making deals with the devil .. I don’t know. Will – she is spiraling. She is promising anything right now.. she’s like a politician. Ashley – I hope that’s what it is .. just even the thought. Rachel – maybe Mickey just got to go..
10:20pm – 10:42pm Gym – Morgan and Lauren.
Morgan – I really don’t know what I would do (if she won HOH) because it really it depends on what happened this week. Literally, that’s what I that’s what I was saying. Depending on who stays and who goes determined, who’s on my block next week for real because if Mickey stays, then Mickey and Keanu are my nominations again. And I would even tell Keanu you’re only target. Lauren – Yeah. They talk about different scenarios for future weeks.
Morgan – I need to, like, not saying I would never throw a competition, but like, let’s say it was like down to like you or Vince or whatever, I would be happy to be like, oops, you know what I mean? Lauren – yeah. Morgan – This is a point of survival where all I wanna do is just not touch the block. I want to win HOH when I need to, not when I have to. And so depending on like I said, this week will determine if I really need to. Versus just if I want to. Lauren – yeah. Morgan – So yeah. I will tear this house apart if he (Vinny) leaves this place. Lauren – hopefully Vince stays this week and the three of us can figure out what to do.
11pm Gym – Lauren and Vinny
Vinny – I am still under the impression that Mickey should go home if she doesn’t win the blockbuster, right? Lauren – yeah.
Unfortunately, the the only downside is that. She it pretty much sounds like I will not have her vote. I talked to her today in the train room. I will not have her vote because she said if I’m sitting next to Ashley, she’s too afraid of upsetting.. Ashley, Will, Rachel and Ava.
And she thinks that if she votes to keep me. If she evicts Ashley, she would upset all of those people. But if she evicts me, maybe she slightly irritates because she’s under the impression Keanu doesn’t give a sh*t whether I go home or not, so she doesn’t even think she upsets Keanu. If she evicts me, she doesn’t think that she upsets you very much. She thinks she only upsets Morgan. That’s one person. So she’s too afraid that if she evicts Ashley, she upsets the whole house. If she evicts me, she only upsets Morgan. Lauren – Why does everyone think they can do whatever they want and I’ll be fine with it? Vinny – I don’t know. Anyway, but here’s the thing. She said she doesn’t want anybody getting mad at her. She doesn’t want Morgan getting upset with her because I’m Morgan’s number one. Morgan just told me that if she votes to evict you, that she’s putting her up next week. Lauren – Good. I hope so. Don’t tell her that I told you that. Vinny – No, but I appreciate that. But something that Mickey said, because if I don’t have Mickey’s vote, I’m going to cling on to any little glimmer that I can. So she said, I don’t want to upset this group of people if I evict Ashley. But I also don’t want to upset Morgan and have, you know, just in case Keanu does want you. If I guarantee that I have the votes no matter who I’m sitting next to, she’ll throw. Maybe I just don’t try as hard. And she said take that information for with what you will.
I know it’s a long shot, I know it’s bold. I don’t know if anyone would actually do it, but. I want to talk to Morgan and see if I don’t know if will would be willing to do anything schemey like that.
And tell her that he has, that she has his vote, yeah. But that would be like the deciding factor, because Will would be the domino effect of her, assuming she has both Will and Ava guaranteed even against Ashley. Against me, she knows she has votes. She needs to make sure she has them against Ashley.
11:45pm – 12am Gym – Lauren and Vinny
Lauren – I’m looking at next week a little bit. Vinny – Don’t be scared. You’re in a good position.
Lauren – Think so? I think so. I think there’s bigger targets in front of you. They wanted you out pre jury. Now that you’re in jury, they’re going to forget about you. Be like, well f**k it, she’s just going to. She’s already in this phase. Now there’s the big targets. Lauren – if you stay are you going to try for the HOH? Vinny – Yes! Lauren – OK. Vinny – I need f**king redemption. Yes! Lauren – OK. OK. Vinny – I will not be OK with my game unless I win it and do what I f**king wanted to do. I want it more than anything. Do you have no idea how much hours of sleep I’ve lost over the past week because of my regret. I’m so mad. Lauren – I know. Vinny – I know there’s no good. I’m not going to beat a dead horse. They head to bed.
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This week’s final Blockbuster is crucial. It may well determine how the last month of the season plays out.
So was Vince serious when he was talking with Rachel ? It sounded like Vince will be gunning for Keanu next week, or was Vince just saying what Rachel wanted to hear ?
it sounds like if Vince is on the block, if he does not win the blockbuster veto, Rachel, Wil, maybe Ava & Mickey, are planning on voting Vince out instead of Mickey, because Keanu has exposed his hand, and they all know that Keanu wants Vince to stay.
Keanu could have avoided this, he should have put Rachel up, Wil, Ashley, Rachel, Morgan, all seem to want Keanu on the block, if he does not win the veto, or blockbuster comp, they will vote him out.
Me personally, I have no problem with them voting Vince out, Vince is a wimp. Vince nor Morgan are really good at winning competitions.
I have been pulling for Keanu, but unless Kelly wins the HOH, there’s a good chance Keanu will be on the block next week. I hope he is not, but He has the majority of the house coming after him.
Ashely, Wil, and Morgan are crazy if they think teaming up with Rachel will be good. Everyone needs to work together on getting Rachel out, then go after their target is, Rachel should be target #1 next week.
If they don’t work together, Rachel might be the first returning Winner, to come back in the house, and win Big Brother for the 2nd time. These people are so dumb, so scared to make moves, it’s really boring and pathetic !!!!
vince will put up whoever makes him the most enemies.
vince for blockbuster, kelly for hoh. lets shake things up.
Yes, but will production allow that to happen
And watch Kelly get nuttier ? No thanks
From what I gather:
VInce asked Morgan to campaign for him. Vince asked Lauren to campaign for him. Vince spoke to Rachel hoping she’d campaign for him.
Ava already told Morgan Vince needs to campaign to her himself. He has not.
Now Vince is trying to, yet again, plot something that involves people throwing to him or staying on the block and helping him…. who knows at this point.
He could just… i dunno, campaign. But that isn’t the Vince way. Attempt to trick people into doing what is only good for him and bad for the other person is the only thing Vince does. It’s tired. I’m tired. Whining and pouting and twisting the moustache got old weeks ago. He’s a shit big brother player and his episod edit is flawed.
Mickey is a nope so obviously I want her to go.
The fact Vince is 100% incapable of doing ANYthing that doesn’t involve an entitlement plot of scummy whining…. and the fact that he’s NOBODIES ally f’real… I don’t care if he stays.
His mastermind in d/r narrative has plotholes and unexplained jumps in logical transivity.
So on feeds he’s annoying and in storyline his edit isn’t believable. whoop de fuqin doo.
She’s nope so I want her to go. He’s blech so i don’t care if he goes.
If i liked any of these people I’d feel more invested. There isn’t a single one that I actually give a shit about. The storyline for episodes is fictional compared to feeds, the people are charicatures of a limerick… This is really hard this year.
Most likely to leave is Vince or Mickey. This fulfills the Quinn failed or betrayed mastermind pattern established by comparison to season 26. I was hoping the pattern would die because the next up in the comparison is T’kor… and tbh i never figured out her purpose in season 26. she’s sorta the cerebral did nothing in a grand season long story arc if i remember correctly. I guess that could make her the predecessor for Ava or Lauren or Will By that token T’kor could reperesent the side number no longer needed. hmm.
Maybe somehow Ashley will get evicted and the pattern comparison will fail and i won’t have to determine WHAT T’kor WAS to the season. Wait, could we consider her the player that bit the hand that feeds? Always turning on Quinn and then backstabbing an ally on her HOH? That takes Will off the list… but adds Keanu to Lauren and Ava if Vnce leaves and a case could be made for Mickey and Morgan to be added to the list if Mickey stays. Hmmm. That’s more likely because the comparison likes having multiple possible place holders as the season goes on in new school.
So next week would be the backstabber’s comeupance?
mmmmaybe.
In summation, I don’t like any of the houseguests; I don’t believe the episode storyline edit; even pushing down my tinfoil urges i see way too much shenanigans going on; I’ve skipped most of the feeds for days…. me. blink blink. Yeah, this is not a good season.
So what needs to happen for you, and all of us, for this season to become even moderately interesting going forward?
Maybe it’s just getting excited for a double or triple. Those could be crazy with this cast.
Bring in a new cast and start over?
I vote for a new cast, too!!!¡!
Part of the cast is afraid to say boo.
One half of the cast is not even playing the game.
One half of the cast takes orders from a stuntcast.
How can that be helped?
The edit is so sanitized and cut to fit the pattern of the past few years that it isn’t actually fun to watch.
What they need to do to change things up and increase enjoyment is for production to stop what it is doing and let the players play the game and let the house story define the edit, not have the edit define the house story.
When a viewer can choose who will be evicted at the end of the week before the HOH is even played… production is not doing it’s job.
I think they have gone too far to make that work. Probably the only thing that would salvage the season is if they restarted it from the beginning but having double & triple evictions so it ends quickly.
Yeah, and I thought last season was bad. But this one is really really really no bueno.
First game of the NFL season tomorrow night, yay. Go Eagles.
Eagles whipped the egomaniacal Chiefs in the Super Bowl, Eagles are my new favs (other than the Niners, my home team).
Go, Browns & Commanders(my 2 hometown teams b4 I moved here to Memphis—which had the Oilers for a year after they left Houston & b4 the stadium was built in Nashville—but no longer has an NFL team).
There is not one person in the house who could compete with most players from other years & the season is getting to the point where I pretty much have to ignore the feeds & the spoilers even. It is so boring listening to them repeat the same thing over & over and watching mediocre chess players is worse than watching paint dry. I’ll probably be just a casual broadcast viewer until after double eviction & then who knows. It’s not worth the time with these idiots.
I stand beside you, that this is a terrible season!!! I also have skipped watching or reading anything BB for a few days!!!! My go to show for the summer is?????? Nevermind I just can’t say it!!!! I’m sure you know what I’m talking about!!!! I still don’t have a favorite!!! I vote for you to win this season!! You are my favorite this and every season!!!!! Thank you for the laughs!!!¡?
If I could take a moment:
We are getting to the jury stage. That’s when things start to heat up usually in our game debate. Who knows if that will happen this year… or if every houseguest will continue to be such a disappointment that we’ll just be debating which houseguest we care least about. Dunno.
But for the sake of all of our sanity (such as it may be after 8 weeks of feeds drivel)….
Can we ALL (myself included) try to remember that our debate should stay based on the game and our comments, and not on each other as people?
It really makes the community stronger if we do this one little thing. Dislike the comment, but keep it on the comment, not the commenter.
We are all contributing to the fan experience, so let’s all try to make the fan experience a good one… even though this season feels like the equivalent of holding up a turd on a stick and calling it a fudgsicle.
Hope that wasn’t preachy, and i hope nobody thinks i’m coming for anyone when i say this… it’s always been one of my big things, attack a comment not a commenter, and I don’t think i’ve expressed it this season like i have in past seasons.
Up to all of us.
Getting off the cross now if someone needed the wood.
I agree with the thoughts you shared. I think it’s always best to keep our comments about the comment and not about the commenter—that way the discussion stays fun and respectful.
For me, this season has been pretty lackluster. The cast feels humor-challenged (though I’ll give Will and Ava credit for occasionally cracking a smile out of me), and most of them have done or said things that are, let’s just say, questionable at best. Maybe that’s why it feels like there’s no one worth really rooting for—or at least no one who seems especially deserving of AFP.
Honestly, your post (and many others here) makes following along more fun than the actual show. As I said in my post yesterday: this is just how I see things, and I always respect the different viewpoints others bring. At this point, I’m half-tempted to start rooting for the furniture—it’s been the most consistent part of the season!
Thank you for saying this. I have been reading a lot of comments with attacks toward the commenters, and that shouldn’t happen. Thank you for your insight!
Verbal attacks on commenters is something I’ve only seen this season, previous seasons haven’t been like this. Perhaps my memory is lacking to be making this observation, which is possible.
Oh they do tend to happen somewhere around mid point of the game in many seasons. Passions flare.
After watching Big Brother for every season, actually watching the feeds and enjoying this website to know what’s really going on in the background, especially loving the comments, I’m done. This is the worst season ever and I can’t even watch it play out. I just don’t care anymore because it’s completely fake and the household it’s just horrible. I’ve always appreciated your synopsis, but the last sentence about “getting off the cross now if someone needed the wood” has done it for me. I know you’re using it as an expression, but it’s beyond offensive. Done with all of you. I’m out.
The saying is vernacular from when i was a child. I am actually surprised that people have not heard it before.
The meaning of the statement is i am no better or worse than anyone else and i am certainly not perfect.
I am sorry that I offended you.
Thank you for everything always. Thank you for setting such a great example for the rest of us. And thank you for this post. As one of the worst, if not THE worst, offenders at commenting on commenters rather than on just their comments, crossing that line too many times to count, I promise there will be no more of that from me. Ever. And, once again, I apologize to all those who I hurt, insulted & disrespected. I am very sorry. Please forgive me, if you can.
I know how easy it is to get pissed at what commenters post, but what is difficult for some is to respect others opinions; getting caught-up in the moment I suppose. You’ve apparently taken a close look at yourself and have decided to do tons better. Good on you, forgiveness is contagious.
I agree. What good does it to attack other viewers? I’d rather spend my time attacking politicians. (Wearing my “Is he dead yet” tee-shirt today)
Def-in-ite-ly ! ! !
Haven’t seen Biden in a while. He just might be.
That sounds like a shirt my wife would love to wear.
Will , rachel and ash are going.to vote out micky this week, ans also last week if she didnt win veto. So i find it “funny” that micky is CRAZY to vote against them and that will would not talk with her, when in the meantime he is gonna vote her out regardless and doesent warn her about her position in the house AT ALL .
(Also the 3 are forming alliances without her) (by the way i think vince should blow up the judges alliance to micky and ava!!!!!!!! F morgan)
Rules for thee but not for me, right?
I think Will, Ashley and even Morgan’s outrage is due to the season long POC alliance those 3 along with Mickey have had (Keanu was always on the other side of the house, and thus never included), and expect to be honored no matter what in the BB house. The problem is Mickey has shown, especially over the past 5 weeks, starting when she won HOH, and developed a serious case of HOHitis, and continuing over the last 3 weeks, when she’s been on the block in all of them, that she’s much more concerned about Mickey, and much less concerned about the rest of them. Flat out threatening to put your allies OTB as pawns, to their face, the next time you win HOH, is not something that will endear you to them, and Mickey has done that, along with showing she doesn’t give a tinkers damn about any of their games except her own.
That’s why they all seem ready to jettison her now. They’re tired of her foolishness and lack of loyalty to them, even while she expects total loyalty from them towards her. It’s hypocrisy at it’s finest.
Too late for Vince. Ava just told Lauren that she’s thru with him & that she’s keeping Ashley. His only way of getting Ava’s vote is if he’s next to Mickey.
I’d honestly love to see Morgan crash out if Vinny leaves. She’s giving Audrey vibes locking herself away and emerging with a blanket covering her for extra dramatics.. can’t wait
Nah, she’s already cozying up to Keanu…
She just needs someone’s arm she can gently caress, to wake-up in the morning.
I had this horrible nightmare that everyone let Will coast to the final 2.
Oh look! Reality.
i think everyone’s letting him coast to final 3. he’s so non-threatening in comps that he’s an easy pickoff in third
Will, of all people, in the F2 would be the joke of all jokes. He’s always just laying back (literally) and listening. Does nothing, says nothing.
Producers must have wanted a boring season and they got one, why else this cast (other than for Rachel to stand out; which she does in a bad way).
But, in this totally boring season, that may be the way to play. Just lay back & let everyone knock each other out, then take over at the end. Might not get to F2 but maybe F3.
Lay back and whack it.
coasting is a perfectly acceptable game move. i would do the same if i were in this particular house. You can’t rely on any alliances, and it is almost impossible to strategize when no one else knows how to actually play the “game”. And i don’t think he is coasting by on accident. I don’t think he knows how to play the big brother game so he is doing what in his mind will keep him safe. Honestly, i doubt it will garner him any votes at the end if he makes it, but that may change if he can make just a couple of strategic moves from now until the end.
he makes it to the final he potentially wins if he’s sitting next to someone who made a lot of enemies. his problem is actually getting the late comp wins necessary to achieve making it to the final.
Quite true.
Does your nightmare envision a Will-Ava final2? Mine does.
I don’t think so. Ava’s weird game play will get old soon.
I am so torn. I want Mickey gone because she thinks she rules the roost, but also I want Vince gone because, quite frankly, he is so annoying with all the whining, crying, and (just entirely too much) talking. He and Morgan…oy vey! Blah, blah, blah, blah…
I agree! I would honestly be happy with any of the three leaving this week.
How about a triple & get rid of all 3?
When are these people going to understand, it is simple, you keep people who are good for your game. You do not keep people because others want you to. If you do that you are playing other people’s games. It is a losing strategy. If Morgan is closer to Vince than Ashley she should vote to keep Vince. You do not do things because your alliance tells you. If you do you are probably playing the alliance leaders game not yours. In this case, Rachel’s game.
it’s more complicated than that sometimes you keep people good for others’ game to keep a target off yourself. for example, i don’t think lauren’s playing a great game but she’s one of two houseguests with the distinction of never being nominated because she pretty actively avoids targeting anyone to the point of sending home her own ally on her hoh. now there’s obviously value in taking out players bad for your game and the great players are capable of simultaneously taking out their own targets while keeping the target off themselves. to this end, for example, rachel’s actually done a good job of keeping the target off herself. she is the other houseguest never to be nominated this season. but she also hasn’t managed to take out her targets either. she’s lost major allies in jimmy and amy and even during her hoh she only managed to take out rylie, who wasn’t really targeting her. the only target she’s really taken out is kat, who was only a target because of rachel’s poor decisions with rylie.
Do you really believe Rachel has kept the target off of herself, or have the other players just foolishly chosen not to target her for whatever reason?
Some think it’s “too soon”, because they want her in jury. Others are simply too afraid to take the shot. Some may not believe they have the votes to get her out, so refrain from nominating her. There’s also the obvious question of production, and how much influence they have in keeping her off the block, due to ratings and her “special contract”.
She basically changed sides in the middle of her HOH without so much as a whimper of consequence from either side, and while we’ve seen middle players quietly do that from the shadows, I can’t think of a single time a major player did that without their old side firing back at them. I don’t know what she did so well to prevent that, other than being a stuntcast, and thus being protected by Grod and her crew.
She’s used intimidation to scare most of the houseguests away
Let’s discuss win equity for a second.
Who votes for a Keanu win? A Kelley win? A Lauren win? An Ava win?
Nobody.
For that matter, a final 2 where Ashley reveals she isn’t a dullard… will not hit like she thinks it will because the house perception of her ‘elle woods’ personae will be how people base her gameplay. She spent all season convincing people she was a facile twit… and expects a jury to hear she’s a lawyer… and that is supposed to change 12 weeks of playing like a twit? That should not get her any more votes than just saying to the jury I’m a twit in final 2. It will only work if Grod pulls Da’vonne aside and offers her reality tv career opportunities in exchange for her vote for Franzel to win.
House perception over rides ANYthing they say in final 2.
This isn’t survivor where they can whip out an unused advantage and say this is why i deserve to win. This is a social experiment of relationships and perception.
The dynamic is set up as big friendship not big brother as far as how any combination of jurors from this group goes.
They are predisposed to be followers. They are predisposed to vote not best game but who they are closest to that also conspired with them.
This is the fact of this season even moreso than previous seasons.
Have you ever come close to actually not watching the show altogether? Or has it been that you keep watching year after year because of that sliver of hope the next season, when it rolls around, just might be more entertaining and worthwhile?
For myself, I guess that’s my reason.
i quit bbcan6. premiere night some friends and I played a game JUST from how the premiere episode was edited. we all wrote down the eviction order for the season. by the half way point i was still 100% on which order each hg would be evicted. I quit watching. After the season I checked the rest of the order. other than transposition of 2 women with the same character role in the casting model… i was right. The premiere episode foreshadowed not only the winner and season long story arc, but made it obvious.
I got triggered with some ptsd flashbacks and had to avoid feeds for a few weeks on 2 occasions. bb19 and bb21.
I predicted the winner of 26 during week 2 around episode 4 of the season.
I predicted the winner of season 25 by viewing d/r usage and determined Jag winner as soon as Cirie got her first 0 d/r episode. Jag was d/r in EVERY episode, like they were REALLY pushing to get viewers to support him. Weeks where he had NOTHING to do with the drama of the week, he still got d/r inclusion. Because stuntcasts throw off the usual tells for how production edits the storyline from beginning to end, d/r was the only way to actually tell it was Jag, and that didn’t happen until the midpoint.
24 i knew the winner as soon as the press hyped the bully situation and the storyline changed drastically. 24 was a rewrite season.
Anyone that didn’t know that season 23 was going to be cookout member didn’t watch the first week of episodes or feeds.
22 everyone knew the winner before they even started the season.
21 everyone knew the winner by week 2.
20 was the last time there was a shock to the system.
I don’t comment on 19.
18 we knew the general result of the season by the way grod handled press before the season started.
I live in constant hope that some season they will change the production model.
I also hope to be wrong when i tinfoil hat. I also hope to find one houseguest i can truly support from a strategic and entertainment point of view. Lately that has been next to impossible, but hope springs eternal?
Until that happens I watch not to see if I’ll be surprised, but to see HOW they get to the end that they promote in the first week or two in episodic foreshadow.
Who wins this season?
Dang, now I’m gonna gave to go back & see who won those seasons. I don’t miss BB but because I refuse to consider the players as celebrities, I forget them immediately.
Reality players deserve to be forgotten, cuz they’re wanna-be’s.
18 franzel. 19 josh. 20 kaycee. 21 jackhole. 22 cauliflower 23 xavier 24 taylor 25 jag 26 chelsie. if that helps.
I don’t comment on 19 much because we KNOW for a fact prodo had Josh reading scripted gbm’s about Paul’s game. He had a complete breakdown about it on feeds not believing what they told him to say. Prodo was actively rewriting the end of season because the mob factor was so bad in the press and fanbase. and yet they rewarded the same thing in 21 through edit trickery from the start. Jackhole wasn’t just teflon edited, he was whitewashed, golden tefloned and babied by production UNTIL the finale.. but he still got the win that was evident by week 2 in both feeds and edit.
for 18 Grod went out saying it was year of a woman winner and that a woman WOULD win the season. Before the cast for the season was announced. Since when does Grod do THAT unless she’s already put the fix in motion?
She did that because the last female winner had been in BB13 – Rachel Reilly, followed by 4 straight men (Ian, Andy, Derrick and Steve) and only 5 women winners total in 17 seasons.
Thank you for the response. Would also love to hear your predictions for season 2 – 17.
Plus, if you had to pick just one season, which one do you think came closest to overall how the game should be played, best cast, etc.?
Shapiro years were different. That’s up to season 8/9. Reality tv was new. There is ample evidence of manipulation of comp wins especially individual time comps. I kept a list in the past… but it’s on an external drive somewhere so not easily acccessible.
Grod years… 9ish through 14 she was trying to rebrand and put her mark on the seiries. It was about creating a new generation of reality tv stars because her first few seasons were starting to lose ratings.
I didn’t start analyzing Production’s part in the game until bbcan and bb16 ‘roughly’ While i was aware of Shapiro’s seasons more than 9-14… and I always saw oddities, I just ignored the odd until after I had worked in tv and film for a couple of years, and let my experiences inform me of most probable things that were going on from a production point of view.
Every year I intend to not watch & then, because I used to love BB, I tune in. Soon, I’ve slipped back into reading spoilers & watching the feeds (sporadically).
So, if you predict that “Nobody.” votes for a Keanu, Kelley, Lauren or Ava win, which houseguest(s) do you see getting Somebody’s vote to win?
This season I’m not revealing the winner by edit. Sure I’ve had one for a couple of weeks. I’m just not willing to open the kettle of worms again. I’ll just keep my read to myself and not be the spoilsport spoiler who spills too much.
You must be flattered that everyone wants to know what you think. In this space you’re king of the hill top of the heap.
I’m an overly opinionated blowhard.
I’m a commenter like any other commernter, I’ve just been commenting for years and developped a specific voice.
My opinions are no better or worse than anyone else that comments on the game.
There’s just a lot of them (my comments) because i write too often and too much.
Tbh i’m sort of a menace to some people’s enjoyment of the game. Not intentionally, but… yeah. I can be.
Anyone who doesn’t appreciate your knowledge, insight & analysis can easily skip your posts. The rest of us LOVE to read your posts. And, your crowning achievement is your sense of humor. Just as Mary Poppins used a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down, you use a spoonful of humor to help us all digest your serious analysis. Makes for a more entertaining read. That’s why you’re the king of this community, IMHO!
And rightfully so!
I can’t remember but when Xavier won, had he admitted to being a lawyer or did he wait until after he won. I know that Derick didn’t reveal him being a detective. I think she might be better off not admitting until she is either voted out or wins, but not before. But then, this is this year’s cast. “Expect the unexpected”
Vince campaigned to Ava. Well…
Vince did his usual poor me and tried to straddle sides to Ava.
He said he’d go after Keanu and Kelley or Rachel and Ash/Mickey.
Ava has heard what he told Kelley.
Therefore, he has just doubled down on being Vinnie the lip, a liar, to Ava.
His talk to her was 100% what you DON’T do when campaigning to Ava specifically.
Did Ava ask for names? Nope. Once he said she was perfectly safe, and he valued her and had fish that needed frying he should have stopped.
That’s bad for Vince if he is on the block on Thursday after Blockbuster.
WHY does everyone drop the Ava ball? She’s not a difficult read in the slightest.
But here we are.
The Ava ball is bouncing yet again.
Has anyone notice the great lengths that the feeds have gone to in order to keep Mickey somewhat invisible? There was an entire day right before i hiatused where Mickey did not appear in conversation to condescend to anyone.
Has anyone noticed the scorched earth production has done to focus on Vince? T hey are really pushing HARD.
Reality for the sake of being 100.
Who is the better juror?
Mickey will be attempting to rule jury house, and will be the most bitter betty on earth.
Vince will be bitter too. He’ll be whining bitter. She’ll be revenge bitter.
Note what alliancing has NOT been shown on episodes. Note what has been focus of the episodes.
This is going to help a lot of people later when they say HOW and WHY when we get closer to finale.
If you’re not willing to share your prediction for the winner, could you at least give us your prediction for the final4 or at least your final6? Please?
Looking at the endgame, the strongest possible Final 3? I’m thinking Vince, Lauren, and Kelley. Vince feels locked for Final 4, so the real question is who joins him. Why Vince? because he has Morgan’ s vote after BBBB no matter wether he faces Mickey or Ashley and in the unlikely event of a tie, he has Keanu’s vote.
Keanu’s back in his delusional zone—he recently ssaid to Morgan and Vince that if Rylie threw out his name, Rylie couldn’t really mean it. He’s also convinced he has Ava’s vote to keep Vince. Classic Keanu—seeing only what he wants to see. Still, he’s capable of self-reflection and, underneath it all, seems like a decent guy. But unless he wins comps nonstop, he’s still the house target. And if Vince somehow goes, don’t be surprised if Morgan starts clinging to Keanu.
Kelley recently hugged Rachel after Rachel tried to mend fences… with her this time with Ava present. After Kelley gave Rachel a hug, Kelley immediately told anyone who would listen that Rachel hadn’t spoken to her in three weeks. Folks looked aty her like Kelley that’s another lie. She told Keanu that both Rachel Ashley “bring out the mean girl” in her. I wouldn’t be shocked if she takes Rachel out—though Rachel’s not winning anyway. Kelley will probably comp her way to the end, but the win? Less likely.
Lauren is strong in comps and quietly positioned. This game is all about positioning yourself well. Despite what Lauren tells Ava, Vince is clearly her #2. Sure, Lauren can appear indecisive and/or bland, but everyone likes her—which makes her an easy vote if she makes it to the end.
At this point, it’s less about who can make the Final 3 and more about who survives the bumps along the way—because when the dust settles, the winner might be clearer than anyone realizes.
Excellent points, all.
There can’t be any ties tonight murtle. There are 7 voters, so Keanu will not be voting.