Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Ava
Nominees: Keanu, Zach & Vinny
POV Players: Will, Keanu, Zach, Vinny, Ava, Katherine
POV Winner: Katherine
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: ?
Storage Room – Morgan and Rachel
Morgan pisses off Rachel.
Morgan – And that’s the thing is, like, I know basically what I’m trying to think about because I know you don’t like Vince. Rachel – I don’t dislike Vince. Morgan – But I know when I was talking to Vince last night, I was like Vince. If you somehow stay, would you ever? Because he knows how I feel about you. It’s like if I told you like not to touch her, and he’s like, I wouldn’t touch her. Like he said, I wouldn’t touch her, I wouldn’t touch Ashley. He’s like, I’ll do whatever. He wants to stay and he wants to play. He wants to go far, I genuinely feel like he wouldn’t. Because even when we first created the heavy hitters and stuff, he was very for real about that. But there was somehow discourse between you two. I don’t know what that was about. That’s not my business.
Morgan – He was like how do you feel about Rachel? I was like I love her. I don’t want her.
gone. I want her injury. And he goes. Me too. And that’s also how Zach and I connected was the same way. Rachel – Like, you know that I’m not going to jury. Morgan – No, Rachel. No, I’m not. I’m like, literally, Rachel.. Rachel – I will be in this house until final three. If you guys think I’m going to jury, I am not going to that jury house. I will never see that jury house. Morgan – I meant like the checkpoint. That’s what I’m saying. Rachel – Sure. But
like, I’m telling you, no, if you, if that’s everyone’s plan. I’m so tired of hearing it. I will not be in that jury house. Morgan – I didn’t mean to offend you. I meant like the checkpoint. That’s how. That’s how I’m just looking at, like, setting the checkpoint. I don’t want you gone. So I’m sorry if I offended you. I literally just meant everyone’s thinking about just the, checkpoint because no one knows if it’s 9 person, no one knows it’s in person. Rachel – Morgan. I’ve heard that so many times. I’m telling you woman to woman, friend to friend. You will not see me in that jury. I will not be on that couch mediating. I will be in this house. Morgan – Yeah, I believe you, Rachel. Rachel – So if you guys want to keep me, if that’s what you think, I will be here. Morgan – Yeah, I believe you. OK. So, yeah, I didn’t know mean to offend you. I’m just saying I’m just looking at it like by a checkpoint standpoint. Most people that I’ve talked to, that I’m close with, it’s just like we’re just trying to get to jury. I don’t even know if I’m going to make it a jury. So I didn’t mean like I’m going to get to jury and then like see you later. I told you in the very beginning, I’m trying to take you as far as I possibly can. No, I understand what you’re
saying. I’m sorry if you heard that from multiple people. I did not. From my perspective, I’m not trying to say right, but I understand that what your plan is and what the plan is and I will. Rachel – I’m telling you right now because I’ve heard it so many times. If you guys think you’re keeping me to jury, to sit in a jury house, you’re crazy. I mean your whole group is crazy, but because I will not be there, I will be in this house sitting in that final two chair. Morgan – I believe you. Rachel – So if you guys want to f**k with me, go ahead. Morgan – But that’s the thing, it’s my whole group. That’s not like I don’t know what the boys are planning. I just know that my talk in the very beginning when I had with them was just checkpoints. My checkpoint is jury. If I can touch jury, great. I was just worried about going home pre jury and that was theirs, it wasn’t how I felt. Rachel – That is literally what everyone keeps telling me and I’m so tired of it. You can underestimate me all you want. I have won this game. I have played twice. I have been on reality TV for 15 years. Morgan – I know Rachel. Rachel – you newbies think that you guys can tell me what to do or that I haven’t seen this. I’ve heard better. I’ve played with better. Morgan – I’m not telling you what to do with you. I never have. You know I haven’t. I told you in the very beginning, I’m trying to take you far as far as I possibly can. Rachel – but you just said you want me in the jury. Morgan – I meant like, as far as checkpoint. That’s not a checkpoint, Morgan. We’re playing Big Brother. It’s not a checkpoint. Morgan – It is to me. I’m trying to get to jury. That’s what I’m saying, Rachel. OK. I’m not saying once. I’m not
saying that at all. I’m trying to get to jury. Rachel – I will not be in that house. I believe so. If anyone wants to take a shot, they need to bring it on. Morgan – Yeah. I believe it. Rachel – because I will not be in that jury house. Morgan – I know. Rachel – The fire has not even come out. No, I’m telling you I can. I told you. I told you this when you hugged Keanu. I was like, I told you what? That maybe people don’t realize I have two kids and a husband at home. I have way more to lose and I have done this for way longer. Morgan – I know. Rachel leaves the storage room.
2:10pm Storage Room – Rachel and Katherine
Rachel – hey, yes, I’ve seen information for you OK. Morgan just told me everyone wants to break up the showmance. Keep it in the back of your mind. There’s nothing we can do this week. Just letting you know so I’m on the side with you guys. Obviously just giving you the
information to keep in the back of your head. Katherine – OK. That’s interesting. Rachel – I just got a big fight with her in here. Katherine – Really. OK cool deal. Thank you. Rachel – Please don’t go spread, that around but just so you know. Katherine – okay, thanks.
2:20pm – 2:45pm HOH Room – Rachel and Ava
Rachel – hear me out. Ava – No, no, no. I’m hearing, I just got in a huge fight with Morgan. Yeah, what if so first of all, she wants to break up Rylie and Katherine. I told Katherine, I know. I’m sorry. I’m going postal. I’m sick of her. It’s so freaking funny. What if I know take down Zach, maybe put up Morgan. Eliminate the threat ..something to think about. The reason I was playing so hard for that video yesterday, because I was thinking about, I told you. I was thinking about taking somebody down. Its a really really f**king ballsy move but at that point you’re guaranteed that Vince or Morgan goes home. Ava – Oh my Christ! Rachel – I know. Think about it. Mickey and Morgan think that they’re running this whole house. The think that they can predict everything and I’m just so tired of it. Vince told me to my face that he wants me injury because he wants me to mediate like Dr Will. Morgan just told me
to my face that they want me and Jerry. Ashley told me that everyone’s talking about how they want me in jury. Wills told me that everyone’s talking about how they want me in jury. I’m like, do they not realize I will not be in that jury house? I will be in this game. It’s like, this is the thing. I have two kids and a husband at home. I have way more to lose. They don’t know. They don’t know the fire a mom can bring. Listen, I haven’t shown it. Ava – I
believe it. Rachel – but like I’m really frustrated. Ava – You have that fire. Rachel – I do have that fire.
Ava – this game switches so fast. It’s freaking crazy. Don’t make your head spin. I should talk to Katherine but I’m just warning you. I have a feeling, the noms are going to be the same and I think that’s best for our game in the long run. Rachel – I think I’ll start working on trying to get people to vote out Vince. Ava – That’s it. That’s all we can do
that’s it. If I had the veto that would be different but I don’t Katherine does. And that means I would have to talk to Katherine. Listen, f**k its Sunday., Thursday is going to be so different. Rachel – I’m a 100 percent agree. Ava – That is why I am not. I don’t think I’m going to change the noms just because it’s too messy. It’s too messy if Katherine did it on her own volition and my hand was forced, then like the same way, like if one of them wanted, you know my hand was forced, I’ll do it. But if I have the ability to control the situation
talk to Morgan and this builds trust between me and Katherine. Rachel – Yeah.
3:30pm HOH room – Will, Ava and Mickey
Mickey – we are in a position to sit in and keep him in this house. Is it to our detriment? You know what I mean? Like, do we send him home? Because we’ve been trying to send him home for weeks and he. He finally lost a veto. You know what I mean and then we have two people who are incapable of winning. They have not won one yet, you know what I mean and then put
them up again next week. You know I’m saying because it’s like Keanu has nobody and it’s like he does not have anybody. Ava – Everybody changes their mind so f**king fast in this house that it is Sunday and we’re talking about Thursday. Trust me, everybody’s minds are going to change by tomorrow. Everything that’s happened today is going to be f**king erased in this house and it is so insane and so scary. But I don’t know what to do that Mickey. I feel this is my opinion and I could be wrong and maybe I’m crazy for saying this but frankly, I put up three big people, that’s not a secret. If I was in the shoes of anybody in this house, I would probably avoid talking game until Wednesday or Tuesday. Will – We just gotta follow the playbook. Frank, nobody’s going to take that shot at her (Rachel). Nobody can take a shot at Rachel. Hell no. Ava – Why? Mickey – Because if you shoot and miss, that’s your a$$. Everybody saying she doesn’t have anybody and she’s causing problems. Mickey – She has us. Will – if we pick for Zach to leave. I’m gonna stick by what he did yesterday for one time. Ava – what? Mickey – you mean that’s good for one time? Will – yeah. (The trip to London Zach gave Will is only worth one vote. lol)
3:55pm HOH room – Ava and Katherine
Ava – you won the veto and if you want to use it, its your choice. Katherine – I am leaning more towards not using it. I feel pretty good about your noms and have my own reasons. Ava – There’s not many renom situations that I think are ideal. Katherine – Completely agree.
Ava – I don’t know. How do you, how do you feel about my noms? Just be honest with me. Katherine – Honestly, fine. Ava – Thanks. Katherine – I am trying to figure out like with myself and with some other people. Like obviously like where their preferences lie. Ava – What if norms did stay the same because honestly, I see benefits of any of them staying and I see benefits to any of them leaving, that’s why I made the choice that I made.
Ava – Listen, honestly, Katherine, the more I get to know you. Like I just respect you so much as a player. Katherine – Like thank you. Ava – It goes beyond words. And frankly they want to think Riley protects you. Katherine – I don’t care. Because you know, extra protection though but I can play my own f**king game and I am. I’m still fucking lovely. I didn’t think that 6 f**king days ago I didn’t know Rylie was protecting me like that. So why the f**k how did I last this long then before that? It wasn’t because of Rylie. Ava – no.
5:30pm Havenot Room – Mickey, Morgan and Vinny
Morgan – Ashley is really starting to piss me off because I’m telling you. Like I said, she told me she we were talking about stuff last night, even Zach. We were talking about my decision between you and Zach and she was like, don’t worry, I’m not going to say anything. And who? She’s been in this f**king room for hours with Zach and I feel like she’s telling him everything that I deserve to have that conversation with Zach, myself, and that sh*t pisses me off. Vinny – Yeah, be careful too. Like Ashley is somebody who I kind of screwed up week one with any kind of relationship by putting her on the block. And that’s one I think is a lost ’cause I can’t see her ever voting for me to stay because she has no reason to. And that’s fair, because that’s somebody who I never planned to work with.
Morgan – so OK so since we’re here hypothetically speaking if, in fact it came down to you against Zack. Although that doesn’t sound great because of what we say we’re going to do, if you were to stay over Zach? What does that look like for our games going forward? Meaning I know for that that Zach will be willing to put up people that Morgan and I cannot and vice versa, you know, and so on and so forth. I know some people that you are close with that in my opinion. I don’t think they work best for my game. I don’t know how Morgan feels, but I think we all have a few people that we could shuffle around. I’m curious as to what that looks like like what you feel like you would want to do? Morgan – there are some people that we cannot take shots at that we would need someone else to do and vice versa. Basically this morning I kind of got into a weird thing with Rachel. Really weird like she came and be lucky one because so now what I said she would be great in jury for me and having the experience, it got back to her, and she didn’t like that and she was like you and your friends like referring to you and Zach. So that means either you or Zachary told Rachel. Vinny – I mean, I never said I’ve never named you in my life. Morgan – No, I know, but no, there’s also other possibilities. I was never going to go against her. I was never going to put her up. I’ve even said don’t put her up. Mickey – yeah. Morgan – I cannot take a shot at her unless its a double eviction, then I will take the shot. Morgan leaves.
Vinny – if we come to a point where you need me to take big shots, I want to. I want to be more memorable than I am right now. I hear what you’re saying. Not playing as good of a
social game as I thought I could have. Mickey – Yeah. Vinny – Going home because people thought I played a better social game than I thought I did. It’s the weirdest. It’s the weirdest phenomenon. Mickey – Thank you.
6:30pm Hammock – Lauren and Ashley
Lauren – I feel like they both play pretty like honest games like there’s, there are people that are trustworthy. I feel like obviously Zach is great. I just don’t know they’re .. I feel like they have similar games, but at the same time obviously they are different. Ashley – Yeah, they’re totally different people. Lauren – Personality was too so I genuinely don’t know at this moment. I’ve kind of been just like not thinking about it even though it is. I mean, I have to think about it. Ashley – Yeah, 100 percent. I’m very confused. I don’t know what to do, obviously if it was like on a personal level even after like the things that have happened over the last week … but its a game and some of them have made very valid points.
6:53pm Lounge – Zach and Katherine
Zach – I do want to put in my due diligence. I wanted to check on you, see if there’s any sway and you can be straightforward. Honest to me, it’s not going to hurt my feelings whatsoever. If you are considering taking anyone off the block so that I can at least just have like an idea going in like that’s that’s really what I’m looking for. Because with the Ava situation I had no idea I was even going up and that really threw me off like, I was just wondering if you had thought about it, if you had talked to people, like what? What are your thoughts heading into tomorrow? Katherine – I think I’m probably leaning towards not using it. Sure I’ve had some talks. I guess I don’t know obviously with using it I would have to consider renoms. Zach – if noms do stay the same, where would you be leaning in terms of like a vote if it does come down to me and Keanu.
7:30pm – 7:50pm Backyard – Rylie and Morgan
Morgan – What is scary about the game, you know? And this is not me saying I don’t trust you as I do trust you with everything, Rylie. I (Rachel) love her and I want to work with her, but I also know she wants to win this game and she’ll do whatever it takes to do that. And I’m, I’m trying to learn to have that same tenacity, you know? So time, because I know that she’s not the biggest fans of the people on the block. And I am, you know, so I’m like, Dang, if I let’s say I want to be like I want to see them, does that mean that I’m getting like, she’s feeling definitely about me? You know what I mean? There’s a lot of things. Morgan tells Rylie about how Rachel was annoyed at Morgan for saying she wanted Rachel in jury. So when I said like yeah she’d be great to like give an opinion and mediate in the case there’s like questions or things and I guess she took it the wrong way like I was trying to. Rylie talks about how on the outside he only hangs out with “real a$$ motherf**kers”.
Rylie – All I told her (Katherine) was have fun. It’s her first veto. And if she wins it, do whatever the f**k she wants to do because it’s her game. That’s what I told her too. I told her I was proud of her. And I’ll never tell her what to do in an HOH. So I’ll never tell her what to do with your veto. I’ll never tell her what to do in this game, never and she knows that, yeah, she’s a grown ass woman. She makes her own decisions at the end of it. I’m not going to pitch her any ideas. I’m not going to try to tell her what to do. It’s her game. It’s not my game to play, been. A lot of people come into this house that did have feelings for each other in this game, and they work together.
Vince just egging out
9:27pm HOH room – Kelley brings up cookies to Ava, Will and Rachel.
Ava – God, I love you so much, Kelly. Cookies. I love you. I’m happy you’re here. And I’m happy that you got to enjoy a week of safety for freaking wants. Sister. Appreciate you. I’m happy that you’re getting to show off your amazing personality because you haven’t been able to do that in this house. Thank you for giving me the opportunity. You gave it to yourself. You earned it. Am I wrong? You. I wouldn’t have been able to. Unless you want all those goddamn blockbusters. That’s frankly true. Kelley – That’s true. Ava – Three blockbusters, right? Two blockbusters, a mystery veto and a vote right Jesus!
9:30pm Bathroom – Katherine and Keanu
I’m gonna admit there’s not a lot to talk about if you want to talk about, votes at a later day, we can do that because those are conversations I feel like I really want to have, and I
definitely want to talk to you about it, veto, wise, I’m leaning towards not using it, umm at the end of the day. To say it as bluntly as possible there has been a very small amount of people that have valued me in this game at all and they’ve made it very obvious. And I think it’s based off of reasons that like I don’t love that. Like I haven’t been valued so far and
any value put to me. That’s me being blunt about the fact that I don’t want to take anybody off that hasn’t extended to me. Like, if you haven’t shown me that you care about me in this game. If you haven’t shown me that you care about my opinion. If you haven’t shown me that you think that I’m a competitor by not talking with me, then, it kind of shows me that like
how real is a conversation that we’re having? How real is me saving you, right? Also the perception of it, I’m not aligned with any of y’all up there. I’m not aligned with anybody in general, to be honest. But I mean, I have people that I like. I have people that I talk to. I have people that I value. And they don’t always fall into same categories with each other.
Keanu – by you winning a competition and proving that you are a competitor, I feel like that brings you into the forefront a little bit because I feel like II. Like I said, to my knowledge you haven’t really had any game talk with people and to my knowledge, not even really with Riley. So I was like, well shit, if she’s not happening with him, who the fuck is she happening with so like from that perspective, I was just like OK. Well, like, maybe
she’s just playing a similar game to like Ava up until this point where it’s just kind of been like chilling in the back until you had to strike, which is totally, I totally respect that too. You know what I mean? And this could this could be an extension of that as well. You know what I mean? A lot of people think the veto is not an offensive thing, but it totally can be.
Keanu – I think the best case scenario is if it’s used on Vince because the way that I want to move forward he’s needs to be in the game and that benefits both. Like I said, we don’t really talk anymore. So I don’t even know where you’re at and I would very if you are open, if you are open, I’m not, I’m not saying you’re dumb, I’m just saying like if you’re open to talking game, I would love to talking with you. But like I said to my knowledge talk to anybody really games for like, I was like OK.
10:30pm Backyard – Rylie and Vinny
Vinny – I think, you know, I’m gonna focus on Blockbuster. As far as votes, I think it’s you, Katherine, Lauren, Zach or Keanu, regardless of who comes down. Kelly. Morgan, that’s six. That’s all I need. I’m here, that’s all I need. And then I’ll do some f**king damage with y’all because if those are the only people to have my back, they’re not the only people that I can trust. Rylie – Yeah, absolutely.
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Couldn’t even read all of this once Rachel went on her fucjing rant about not going to jury…shouldn’t THAT be a huge indicator to get this fat annoying bitch out of the game…she is telling everyone to their face that she will be at least final 3 amd they are all just like “ohh yeah sure of course queen” fucking a. And all these comments are ao happy that ava is hoh and following Rachel’s orders lmao. Vince is the only who will go for her. He’s probably leaving this week amd then its a steamroll for Rachel ava and prob Ashley final 3. Hope yall are excited for that jesus chirst..m
It’ll likely be Morgan going home, after Zach uses his power. You’re right that Vince is probably the only one with the balls to put up wretch-el.
The fact that wretch-el keeps going on and on about not being in jury house is a huge red flag. She was probably promised that by production.
I can’t believe the administrator approved the nasty comment made by Jordan! That comment should be deleted!
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Screw all those thumbs down replies
hey spyder, i went thru the comments to see what you might be referring to. Are you talking about the comment that mentioned Will? Not really sure why you think that’s nasty, Will actually did say something that could be construed as such.
Who’s Jordan?
Please take Vinny down, replace with Rachel! Zach uses his 10K buy off the block, replace with Morgan. Hope Morgan wins blockbuster! They vote out Rachel instead of Keanu. A girl can dream!
I agree. She’s acting like an entitled bitch. Hey Rachel, YOU chose to leave your husband and two children. You were not forced to go on the show. Please, please send her packing before jury.
Rachel got asked to be back on the show.
You will never have that opportunity. You’re just a keyboard hater. I love that Rachel triggers you.
Rachel not touching that black anytime soon.
Freudian slip?
Freudian typo!
And leave the 3 headed snake untouched?! That’s a horrible idea! They are the evil power in this game If they’re not split up soon, they’ll be in the finale & the jury will have to give one of them $75,000 & another of them $750,000! That would be the worst possible ending for this season! Rachel has no power. She controls nothing. She has no alliance. She hasn’t had an HOH, like The Lip & Mickey/Morgan have. She didn’t control someone else’s HOH, like Zach & TheLip controlled Lauren’s HOH, convincing her to put up 2 of their own alliancemates, side-by-side, guaranteeing that one of them went home! Who does that?! Zach & The Lip, that’s who! Because they were in SO many alliances that they could spare one to weaken their housemates, even if those housemates(Lauren,Ava,Adrian & Will)were in that alliance with them! I’m sorry. Vince,Zach & Morgan are all 3 snakes & MUST GO ASAP to save this season!
Watching the feeds, Rachel is turning into the full snake! She’s lying on everyone. She’s telling people things that’s were either not said or feeds were blocked while it was being said (possible because there are a lot of feeds blocked). Rachel IS running Ava’s HOH! She’s running up to the HOH with stories to pit each group against each other. And then says, “Keep this quiet! Don’t share with anyone!” There’s a reason not to share. Her lies would be found out.
How the Hell is she running Ava’s HOH? If she was, Ava would be going to Katherine, manipulating her to USE the veto on either Keanu or Zach, so that Rachel could satisfy her latest anger target, and have Ava put up Morgan!
Now Morgan may indeed end up OTB, due to Zach using his power, but Ava has pretty much already said Morgan was her #1 re-nom choice anyway, so that’s not due to Rachel’s influence.
When people share information (or lies) in that house, they always tell the person they’re sharing with to “keep that between us”, or they do about 90% of the time. That’s because nobody wants to be known as the person going around flapping their yap telling everybody everything (*cough* ASHLEY *cough*). There’s nothing unusual about that either.
I’m glad to see Rachel is finally waking up and starting to play the game. In fact, this whole Ava HOH seems to have finally jump-started the whole house to finally start playing. That’s a good thing!
Really still see morgan going home THIS week. 2 weeks top. Great job getting out jimmy ,morgan
yeah, morgan is at serious risk even without being on the block.
meanwhile looks like kelley will officially go a week without being a nom, so good for her.
For the very 1st time! It’s about damn time she caught a break!
Kelley put herself on the block the first 2 times at least, maybe 3 times.
I would be fine with Morgan out. If she goes, Vince loses a crucial ally for good. Meanwhile, this would be retribution against Mickey for evicting Jimmy. She would be losing her second reliable ally, she would be forced to work with Ashley and Rachel just to survive, and not get caught in the crossfire if Keanu/Zach/Vince/Rylie/Kat/Bambi win HOH next.
I love Rachel but she needs to calm down…
Anyone should be thrilled that people want to take them to jury. Then once that happens then start winning or align with people who do and can take you further.
This week should be simple. Take out Vinny then go for Morgan/Zach next if you are on that side of the house and it just know how much they are gaming and see that as a threat.
Breaking up Rylie/Katherine might be good for some people.
Taking out competition threats like Keanu/Kelley would be good for many too.
Ashley, Will, Ava, Mickey need to be weakened as well. Taking out Mickey seems the best choice since she also connects with Morgan/Vince.
If Rachel wants out so bad pre-jury then you could target her too. But she really isn’t much of a threat this season. Like above Will and I guess Ava but I don’t see why anyone would be that threatened by those three.
I mean of course they gotta go eventually or they will be the final 3 but we’ll see.
i hate rachel, but agree with pretty much everything you said. she’s no threat to anyone and should be coasting to mid-jury the way the house dynamics currently are and are likely to evolve. she’ll need to do something to get further than that, but she’s in a comfortable spot.
I am having a hard time figuring out Rachel’s game this season. On the one hand she seems to be coasting along on the other hand she is stirring the pot with rumors and misinformation. It almost feels like she is getting some cues from production when things are getting a little too slow/boring. “Rachel, we cast you b/c you make for good tv, start making good tv!” These outbursts of hers feel almost timed. That said the entitled attitude and the way she is playing also makes me question if she got a guarantee that she would make it to a certain point. But I also question why if she keeps insisting that she won’t be in jury why that is not causing an, “OK let’s put her up and get her out then yeah, she won’t be in jury” rxn from anybody. So far as I can tell she is being the floater that she so despises, she is not helping nor hurting nor hindering anyone’s game, she is just sort of there and a time or two causing a mild bit of chaos. Makes me wonder…
she’s never really understood what the float game entails. her previous seasons her game was basically get in the minority alliance and get mad at the people at the bottom of the majority alliance for not flipping over to her despite having no reason to do so.
this season’s alliances have been weird, but mostly yeah, she’s getting into a minority alliance and it’s getting picked off because that’s what happens to minority alliances. as people have stated, she’s not really good at the game, and now that she can’t win comps either, she’s just a perpetual non-threat floater as a result.
Agreed.
Imagine hating someone on a reality show! Sad life
imagine posting your comment on a website devoted to watching a reality show.
Rachel has been THE big threat to the Vinny Zach Morgan side of the house, and exactly why they are now down a number with V/Z too scared of Rachel’s wrath to do a split vote to keep Adrian. Trying to protect Lauren seems a BS excuse for their own fears, and anyway, why does she need so much protection? Because THEY HAVE ALL BEEN AFRAID TO UPSET RACHEL. Even people not on her radar who are not her closest allies, are safe only bc they are bowing to Queen Rachel. Literally Morgan Vinny and Mickey just had a conversation about how dangerous it is to take a shot at Rachel bc if you miss, it is going to be very hard to survive.
She is so incredibly powerful this season. She has set the social tone and no one dares to cross it.
eh, her bark is worse than her bite. i feel as soon as she gets nominated people will realize this and she’ll be a perpetual pawn until she goes home.
Replace Will with Kelly & I could live with that as the final 3. Better yet, replace Will with Kelley & replace Rachel with Keanu or Katherine & I could live with that even better! Right now, my favorites for Final 4(in alphabetical order)are: Ava, Katherine, Keanu & Kelley. That’s my dream Final 4 for right now. It could easily change, based on individual performances down the road!
Just because I called Rachel a fat bitch? Lol she’s a bully as much as my comment was.
Rachel proving she is only capable of having one thought in her head at a time and it’s completely self-centered. But she is right, we need to see Morgan sitting next to Vinny, that will be fun.
Sunday Episode. HOH and NOMS
Section One POST EVICTION
Mickey thinks her HOH was successful. She is upset about the second vote.
Kelley is a cockroach. Riley is cocky. Rachel is mopey.
Ashley mystery vote explained.
Rachel doesn’t know why people aren’t doing the best move for Rachel.
UNEXPENDABLES meet to celebrate and take credit for Jimmy leaving… what? m’kay. shuuuure.
Ava questions second vote. Kelley says Ashley.
Rachel mopes to Keanu. A Produpet checking on a Stuntcast.
Ashley lies about her vote. Jimmy only hugged Rachel and Ashley.
Morgan thinks optics are bad about Ashley. Will is protecting Ashley… AGAIN. Because of PEACH COBBLER and CORE FOUR
ALLIANCES SKIPPED SO FAR: UNEXPENDABLES PEACH COBBLER CORE 4 TEA PARTY AND MELTING POT.
Section Two: HOH
Ava fluff introduction to her HOH. Because she has about 25 d/r… Jimmy had 85ish. 2nd last for inclusion in the d/r. FORESHADOW MUCH????
HOH COMP Knockout. Jack the Dipper.
Lauren v Riley. b. Lauren out.
Rachel v Kelley volunteers: b. Kelley out.
Kelley volunteered for something again.
Morgan v. Will c Morgan out.
Kat v. Vince a Kat out.
Ashley v Rachel c Ashley out
Vince v Zach a Vince out
Rachel v Keanu b. answer a Keanu out
Zach v Riley c Zach out
Rachel v Will c. answer b. Rachel out
Riley v Ava c. Riley out
AVA V. Will c. answer b. AVA WINS HOH.
Will answered realllllly early. Vince already nervous and blaming Rachel. Ava has looked at Vince funny for weeks. Even BEFORE Rachel said watch Vince.
Ava isn’t doing 1 on 1’s. Only the people she wants to talk to will be spoken to.
Section Three: POST HOH DEAD ZONE OF FEEDS CUT FOR NO REASON
Keanu thinks nobody talks game to Ava so unpredictable. Ava tells Rachel she is safe.
Zach told he’s safe…. Mickey and Ava talk one on one.
Vince Keanu Ashley are the first three that Ava considered. CORE 4… that AVA didn’t want to be part of because of Ashley. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN feeds are off 2 hours AFTER THE COMP ENDS.
SO is the edit trying to redeem Mickey… who wants Ashley out 1/2 the time?
Section Three A: the show version of the grossmance. He’s currently upset she talked to other people without his supervision.
Vince Cries all the time
Vince Rachel. He’s getting called out for being a schmooze. So all of his whining is an act the d/r tells us. She’s calling it soap opera tears. Vince whines to Will. Will is not impressed with the tears.
AVA GETS WINE GLASSES DRUNK FEST. Vince gotta go on the block.
Vince Keanu Zach is the Will suggestion. Burgerboys… oh right because of what alliances existed.
BACK TO Section Three: Post HOH.
THIS IS BACK TO THE 2 HOUR DEADZONE. SO… ARE THEY DOUBLE FAKING US?
Did they keep feeds off to film choose your own adventure for the edit????
They are totally stealing Ava’s thunder to make Mickey and Rachel the mastermind.
Section Four: Nominations
Keanu. Vince. Zach.
THEY CUT OUT THE PRACTICED SPEECH. They cut out she had agency. They cut her to be controlled by others.
Zach 10k safety. He knows in his pissed off d/r.
OVER ALL THIS EDIT IS REALLY SIDEYE. LIKE REALLY SIDEYE BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE DEADZONE OF FEEDS AFTER THE HOH TO GET CONTENT WHILE CUTTING ALL CONTENT THAT HAPPENED ON FEEDS.
THAT IS A PROBLEM.
i kinda wondered if ava just got her first question right accidentally and if will threw the final round.
I don’t know about her beating Rylie accidentally, but I agree that Will didn’t want any part of being HOH and threw that last question to avoid it.
Maybe when Zach takes himself down if she throws Morgan up, it will wake these people up to stop playing so scared, and start playing to actually win! That may be asking too much from this group, but one can hope.
Amen. Production is destroying Ava’s HOH for the epidodians, denying her the credit she is due for a GREAT HOH, best one yet. They should have shown her speech, which was the best one yet. They should have shown that she decided the noms herself. Neither Rachel nor Mickey persuaded her on anything. Production should be ashamed!
I was thinking the show should just be live feeds. Take production out of it.
Was Rachel saying she doesn’t want to be in the jury house unless she makes it to final 3?
I’m confused…. she does know she can’t make it to final 3…. unless she makes it to the jury house!?!?
She was saying she will not go to jury at all.. She doesn’t want to be a part of the jury. She wants to make it to the end or go home to be with her family..
Wouldn’t that be disrespecting Big Brother? She wouldn’t really do that, would she?
What would happen if she did? Would they have an even jury so a tie vote is possible?
Thanks for explaining the convo between her and Morgan.
Yes, not to mention I highly doubt she would just leave and not go to jury if she was voted out as she would not get her stipend and would not be allowed to go to the finale.
She would just be mad that she’s stuck in the jury house. She would go, but not be happy because means she didn’t win.
Exactly.
3rd place technically never enters the jury house. they just join the jury on stage without ever entering the house.
Yes I realized that after I posted my comment. Thanks
Lordy, lordy, lord, I say, even though I’m actually an atheist.
Watching Rachel, Will and Ava this episode was so viscerally sickening, I was tempted to shut it off.
Ava: how dare Vinny try to find a way to get through to Ava so he’s not OTB, after she refuses to accept any 1:1 even from her most likely targets. It’s so much easier to play this game if you don’t actually have to face people and hear them out. Queen Ava will not be accepting an audience this reign, except to consult with her knights. Vinny should just go take a nap like she’s been doing and wait for noms.
Rachel: perpetual victim entitled gaslighting narcissist mean spirited phony
Will: condescending self righteous martyr complex
Yeah and most the people on this site want Vince to go home. If he goes then its 100 percent guaranteed that Rachel will amd ava or Ashley will be final 3. Plus will is racist so there’s that
Huh?????? What showing are you watching?
What can you cite to support your attack on Will?
Like when you he called white people dirty.
“I want a person of color to win this game. If one of us wins we all win” -will
Yep, that’s why I can’t stand Ava & Rachel. Rachel ought to know her previous BB appearances are history & don’t apply to this season, and Ava ought to know she doesn’t know nothin’ about nothin’.
She’s never been OTB. She just won HOH. So far, she’s having the best HOH of the season. Quite the contrary from your inaccurate attack, all of the above prove that she definitely knows somethin’ about somethin’!
Ava merely reacts. She often speaks foolishly.
Besides, I don’t attack … just speaking my mind.
I notice whenever someone says something negative that you don’t like you say they’re attacking….get a grip. Everyone here can speak their mind with *you* attacking *them*. Just sayin’.
p s. MOST of the houseguests haven’t been OTB it’s mostly been the same ones week after week.
Just for sport you’d be wise to look-up the definition of ‘attack’ in the dictionary before you accuse someone’s comments as an inaccurate ‘attack’.
(Your proof of Ava’s greatness is weak, she hasn’t been OTB like most all of the houseguests plus I trust you noticed Ava was actually surprised at winning an easy HOH against *only one other* person by counting “dips”).
One things for sure – Rachel does not lack confidence.
What she doesn’t seem to remember or take into account are the following….
It’s been 14 years since she was last on the show. That’s a long time!
The last time she was on BB she was known as a comp beast. She’s had 2 children since then, and that changes you. So far she’s won nothing this season.
In both of her previous seasons she played with her then future husband by her side, and he not only saved her multiple times from being evicted, he was also there to work and strategize with her. He’s not there this time.
Yes, it’s her third season, but in her first there were only 13 competitors, and Rachel was evicted in ninth place, the first member of the jury, so not exactly a deep run.
I just don’t think she’s quite the queen she thinks she is.
Or the legend she thinks she is.
Try not to be so vague! Chuckle, chuckle.
Zach:
Opinion
He’s been coasting as a tag along behind Vince, which is fine because he could blame his decisions and gameplay on someone else. By himself he’s just as timid and ten times more gullible.
He worked hard to make an alliance week one that included his final 2 and his potential showmance. The edit doesn’t recognize it happened.
He got credit for the takeover instead of the women that pulled it off in the edit.
He’s got the self righteous fury d/r about being lied to.
He’s getting an amazing edit. Far better than his game.
So what is he doing flipping a pivot this week?
Ashley said she wanted a 5 alliance. Zach told Lauren it was an 8 alliance. There are 13 houseguests and here is Zach lying that everyone tied to Zach and Lauren was included in an alliance. THEY WERE NOT.
So lying is okay when Zach does it? Gotcha.
The edit isn’t showing that and won’t. It would tarnish his good golden boy edit.
OVERALL In regard to the edit this season:
He’s not getting the prodopet edit… that’s Ashley.
He’s not getting the stuntcast gatekeeper prodopet edit. that’s Keanu.
He’s getting the Grod has a thing for type edit. Her notorious Grodboy edit.
TBH…. the edits of every man this season have been something. It’s way way off track, but does fit the type of edit we would have seen when Grod first took over as exec prod from Shapiro….. so the 8-12 period (yes there was one woman winner in that period, but the edit was centered far more on her showmance partner).
What we see in Grod’s Oz edit of the Hotel Mystere:
Will didn’t want to quit. Rylie is a good ol salt of the earth cowboy. Keanu has a brain. Vince is a mastermind with agency. Zach is a golden boy. Jimmy farted sequins as the bitchy catty swishy villain gay guy. THIS is VERY coded to the early Grod seasons.
As usual, you’re right on point! Don’t you get tired of always hitting the nail on the head?
I really wish BB would have better comps. What happened to the game? Where are the tough physical comps? In the past some would last hours not minutes.
eh, you want the knockout comp early-ish cuz it forces people to expose the battle lines and pecking order of various alliances.
they prefer luck comps so crappy competitors can win
They started with equitable comps in season 25.
They’ve been avoiding slip and slide for a reason. The amount of recuperation time required meant having to take off an entire production day and moving the veto ceremony day back a day on more than one occasion. Even shortening the track and making the cup bigger and receptacle smaller didn’t alter the amount of issues due to falls.
They’ve made the Otev easier because of the face plants and medical checks for concussions as well as the sharp edges one season that caused a gash in a woman’s leg.
They’ve gotten rid of comps that depend only on physical strength because it was clearly a comp that only one or two hg’s were capable of winning.
They often increase the number of individual time comps when they are manufacturing a comp beast. DO we believe the times given for the heist veto? we didn’t see it in full, and we learned during bb21 feeds that production can and will fudge the numbers for storyline (a houseguest complained they got the best time in the comp, but someone else got the veto). Did we notice that the last veto was tier instead of a six lane race? Why? Because they would have a harder time manufacturing a win if it was a race instead of a tier system.
It is much easier for production to control outcomes on comps that are not tough physical comps. Given the foot injury in 24 as well as the cut that required stitches during that season’s otev… a change was required.
Thanks once again for your astute observations. Really helpful!
Let Rachel hang on a banana like in bb12 she might win then Rachel not use to playing these new games
Rachel isn’t coming close to winning a physical comp this season. Have you seen her ?
I wouldn’t be at ALL surprised to see a comp like that in the near future, just because Rachel is so good at it. In fact, they either did it twice in one season, or did it in back to back seasons (Rachel was in 12 and 13) because she was so good at it.
Rachel used to be a dancer in Las Vegas, and thus has (or had) very good leg strength, as you obviously are aware. I’m just not sure it’s still there 14 years later.
Rachel almost certainly is getting a separate payment for joining the show and is not just earning a stipend. I am almost certain I have heard that on a couple podcasts when referring to other “all stars” that are brought back to the show (I heard Frankie wanted too much $$$ a few years back). So I would think she would receive this as well.
Other than a couple whiney moments she hasn’t been as batsh! crazy like her other years. Maybe if she gets deeper in the game.
Would have preferred Britney Haynes for comedic effect!
Returning players are usually SAG affiliated. Of course they are not getting the same pay as newbies. They are always contracted differently. Production is trying to make their moneys worth by keeping them around.
Rachel had a recurring role on a soap opera, and has appeared on what… 20 different reality programs on multiple networks. She would almost certainly be Sag-Aftra affiliated member, and therefore would have to be paid to that scale, not the usual stipend scale.
sag-aftra does not include participating on a reality show. she’s getting the same pay as the other contestants for her appearance, however she may be making additional money for ancillary related content like promotions
four year recurring role on a soap opera.
How we know the pay rate is different for return players (different contract) all stars they talked about their signing bonus and their rates.
Thank you yet again for your helpful information. You really do help me understand the nuances of BB better!
I would have preferred both at the same time. Now, that would be fun to watch!
I don’t know who’s worse:
*Ava, THE most painfully obnoxious & idiotic houseguest. Or:
*Lauren, THE most painfully boring & dull houseguest.
I don’t know if anyone has heard this… but Rachel attacked a snake in the storage room today.
Team Ants are shook.
Let me get this straight:
Zach, fresh off his endurance veto punishment task yesterday…
is willingly subjecting himself to a Morgan endurance whine tonight?
He has a buttveto. He’s just greedy and wants the money AND the safety…
but is safety really worth having a cottonmouth distend it’s jaw and swallow you whole for hours on end while telling you it’s so hard to be her because she was called a snake and got attacked in the storage room and nobody puts her first?
Everyone knows Kat is not using the veto. At this point last season Leah, having been convinced not to use veto, would be called into the d/r, exit red faced and looking like she’d been crying from getting yelled at… to save Angela with the veto.
Guess we have to wait for that veto d/r call.
Just waiting for yeast chode cowboy to get upset that Kat has conversed with too many people today… again.
Look, I don’t blame him for trying to keep the cash and get off the block via the veto instead. $10k is $10k no matter how you count it, not to mention some may look at him sideways for using a “power” to get off the block, and want him out more if he does. You know as well as I do those hamsters will use any excuse as a reason for getting rid of somebody, and that one is as good as any other one.
I’m not saying anyone 100% will use that as a reason, just that it’s a possibility.