Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Vinny
Nominees: Mickey, Ava, Kelley
POV Players: ?
POV Winner: ?
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: Will, Ashley, Morgan
midnight Hang out in the HOH Chit chat.
Chit chat about the Veto Competition.
They joke about Lauren being in her 20’s but eats like she’s 5 just chicken tenders and Mac/Cheese.
Mickey says she’s been to 34 countries and her friends been toi 38 all she eats it Mac/Cheese.
Keanu joins them. Chit chat about competitions. Mickey leaves.. Morgan, Ashley and Vince.
They start talking about Mickey. Morgan is confident that if the veto had not been used on Vince he had the votes to stay.
Vince – you think?
Morgan – not at all.
After some chit chat
They go back to talking about getting rid of Mickey.
Ashley says the whole house is going to put Mickey up except for Morgan, her and Will.
Ashley says if they get rid of Mickey if Kelley wins the HOH she would target Vinny.
They don’t want Kelley in Jury.
Morgan – the indecisiveness is Lauren is a real struggle
Ashley says Lauren isn’t worse than Kelley.
Morgan – her indecisiveness has me worried.
Vince would rather Lauren I Jury over Kelley. Points out how Kelley gets headstrong in something and won’t think outside of it. Vince cites an example where she argued that colour of a mug someone had used earlier in the day.
Vince – then she started getting annoyed about being wrong about a colour of a mug she started saying “ok OK Ok”
Ashley agrees says that at Least with Lauren she weights both side whereas Kelley is black and white.
Ashely says she doesn’t want Kelley in Jury “I also don’t want to live with Kelley in Jury”
Morgan – do we think Mickey will come after Vince if she wins HOH?
AShley – NO
Morgan – I don’t know
Vince – I don’t know
Ashley – she’s so delusional. she’s as delusional as last week. she’s like ‘i am not the target I know he made a mistake’ she was telling me, Will and Rachel all this and we know she is the target. She was like ‘me and Vince are working together’
AShley talks about if she wins the veto.
Ashley – I trust you I don’t think I am going up to be honest
Vince – right of course
Morgan – yeah
Ashley – I know you have to consider other options.. Katherine… I’m just trying to be completely transparent with you
Vince – ohh of course.
AShley – I might have to win it and decide what to say after that
Vince – Sure ok… win it.
Vince says it’s tough when you’ve been butting heads with someone for 7 weeks then they put you on the block and begs Lauren not to use the veto.
Vince – Now she’s open to it (Working together)
Vince goes on about how everyone expected him to put Rachel up
Ashley points out how loyal Rachel is.
Keanu joins them. HOH talk and chit chat.
1:40 am Morgan and Keanu (Vince downstairs)
Morgan says if she wins the Veto Mickey will expect her to use it.
They go on about Vince not putting Rachel up. MOrgan explains if Vince had put Rachel up and missed and if she wins HOH she would put all three of them up the block.
Keanu says Kelley is a number for them why would Vince threaten to lose that “The chances of us winning HOH are higher than the chances of her winning it herself”
Morgan goes on about not wanting Kelley in the Jury.
Vince joins them. They are trying to figure out who Ashley would put up.
Morgan doesn’t think it will be vince. Vinny and Keanu disagree.
Morgan – it’s relieving to know the showmance is broken. that is the one thing I was terrified about
MOrgan is really glad Katherine didn’t win the HOH she would have been on the block.
MOrgan – She would put you up
Keanu – ME why?
M – everyone wants you to go.
K- why I voted to keep Ryle
M – Sorry .. I was thinking…
K – there’s a handful of people the shouldn’t want me to go. She would have put up Rachel, Mickey, Vinny
K – Ryle was really annoyed by Ashley so she might put up Mickey, Vinny, Ashley.
Morgan asks if he knows how Katherine feels about Mickey.
Keanu – I think she realizes she’s full of shit. I told her straight up you know you can’t trust her right. She’s like yeah I know.
K – I told her straight up i was like ‘YO I didn’t come up here after that conversations with them and we figured out that Jimmy was the one talking all that shit you know your ass would be on the block right.. and she’s like I know.
K – Ok alright just making sure on don’t know why you f***gf let her rub your back when your crying and shit knowing she just votes out you boy freind.
Vince says the only people that won’t out him up are MOrgan, Laurean and Keanu
Feeds flip When we’re back they are talking about how indecisive Laruen is. Morgan reminds them that Lauren is supposed to be Vinny’s number one and she waited for the last minute to decide to use the veto. “And he’s her number one”
Keanu – that’s a one day maybe ha;f a day think. just sit down by yourself for 5 goddamn minutes and like Ok.. well he’s my number one I don’t even want to chance it use it. What is there to think about?
Keanu – I cannot talk to her game for longer than 5 minutes. I literally give her the answers to the test and she still can’t f**ing bubble the f***ing answers”
Morgan brings up her attempts to convince Lauren to use the veto last week. “I’m literally advocating for it to be used on Vinny and she still was like I really want you to be here.
M – we’re find Lauren we have teh votes to keep Vinny. you can ues it on me.
M – I told her I don’t have the votes so if you really want me to stay Vince has the votes. I am a vote for vince.
Morgan – imagine someone in the big brother game that advocates.. .I’m on the block and I advocated for Vince to comes down.
K – I don’t need to imagine it I did it before..cause I wanted him to stay and I knew I could in the Blockbuster
10:00 am Houseguests are waking up
10:21 am Morgan and Vince
V – I was thinking about the houseguest choice I am torn between Laruen or Keanu
M – pickme
V – that could put you in a tough situation
Morgan is going off about Jury “Leaving Noms the same is the best”
V – people will be too tempted and get Kelley out.
Vince asks if she would evict Mickey or Kelley
M – IF that’s what you want
V – are you sure
M – yea
Morgan – why would I keep someone that lies to my face all day.
V – that helps. Lauren you Katherine and Keanu
M – I know Ava, Lauren and Keanu will .. katherine is a toss up based on who she see is more valuable in Jury I just agree with Keanu.
If they leave Mickey and rachel in Jury people with an incredible persuasion ability
V – if the a nom comes down who to I put up
M – if you put up Rachel you are starting a WHOLE holy war..
V – Yeah I guess we’ll wait to see who comes down.
Morgan leaves to get Will.
Vince and Will are in the HOH now.
Ava storm in “I need to talk to you about something Urgently
Ava – you are going to get America’s favorite.
Vince – Rachel will win no matter what.
Ava lists off all the things that will make him
Ava – “It hit me like lightening Bolt last night”
11:00 am CHIT CHAT madness in the HOH
11:00 am Katherine and Mickey
Katherine says she’ll use the veto on Mickey nut she would talk to VInce first.
Mickey and Katherine agree they will send Mickey hom.
M – It’s not going to be physical it’ll be memory or mental something like that.
Mickey – I’m not nervous or anything I just hope it works in our favour.
Katherine is going off about Rachel,
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Vince looks like Fievel Mousekewitz’s cousin Ratatouille .
He looks like Mario’s brother Lugi. lol
Great one!
Get Mickey out first THEN Lauren
Definitely Mickey 1st! But NOT Lauren til AFTER Morgan 2nd AND Ashley 3rd. After those 3 go, any order you prefer(although I personally would prefer Vince 4th, but, that’s just me!).
hmm. missed quite a bit. Had a total crash out sleep of the dead night.
Correct me if I am way wrong:
-seems like Vince is waffling on any back door plan, but realizes the high probability of having to make a renom.
-seems like Morgan is better for my gaming Vince to the nth degree.
-seems like hiding away in the HOH as Vince does when he is HOH is giving Mickey the chance to spread any narrative she wants.
And, regrettably, she’s taking full advantage of it. While Morgan & Vince are blowing smoke up each other’s rear in the HOH, talking about how Katherine WON’T use the veto on Mickey, Mickey worked her brain manipulation downstairs on Katherine & guess what? Katherine just promised Mickey that she will definitely use the veto to save Mickey! So much for(to quote Steinbeck’s “Of Mice & Men”): “the best-laid plans of mice & men”, even those of a man/mouse doppelganger of Ratatouille!
Or possibly Katherine wants to play in the veto competition to protect herself from being the re-nom, so she told Mickey what she wants to hear so that Mickey will pick her if she gets house guests choice.
Who knows what the truth is, as everybody always tells me “You have to lie, cheat and backstab to win Big Brother!”, so maybe she means it or maybe she doesn’t.
Kat only promised her so Mickey will pick her to play…duh, classic BB
Feeling regarding The Judges alliance.
Why were they formed?
Rachel had gone off half cocked and big moved. She had to gather numbers. Will and Ashley were trying to save Morgan and Mickey.
Morgan could bring in Vince and once brought in they could intimidate through alliancehood how he voted.
THAT WAS WHY IT WAS FORMED.
Is it an alliance?
You tell me. If an alliance of five is real does it matter who is nominated as long as it isn’t one of the alliance. Real brass tacks. No.
So… we have a member who is in the alliance as HOH. The members of the alliance are all trying to shift the target off their outside of alliance friends. Meanwhile EVERY SINGLE alliance member is suspicious and looking at each other for who is going to backstab first… for an alliance that has existed LESS THAN A WEEK.
This is NOT a real ALLIANCE.
the alliance pretty much had two goals, control the morgan/migckey vote if they were the remaining noms on the block and prevent vince from nominating anyone in the alliance if he won hoh. both goals were successful (albeit rylie losing blockbuster made the first goal moot). a framework exists to make future goals with this group if they want to, but i don’t think most of them see much value in doing that as vince can’t be hoh next week.
SO what you are saying without saying is the premise of the alliance was faulty from the jump. The premise of the alliance was not 5 people moving to a common goal, it was 3 people trying to control the fifth and the fourth person thinking now all my friends are friends.
Rachel pushes for Vince to be target next week. We know this. Let’s be crucial, the way she is talking about Vince’s nom motives SHOW us she is going to get someone to take the shot or take it herself next week.
the alliance seems more like a 1 week/2 week deal moreso than an actual alliance.
Yeah…. a fake alliance.
I mean, what are Will and Ashley and Morgan and Rachel pushing to Vince? Keep alliance strong while you are HOH Vince.
What are they saying behind his back?
Not that. They are essentially saying I hope our snowjob is working on him and he can’t play next HOH.
For that reason if he hatceted the alliance with a renom I wouldn’t be upset about it because they re already plotting his demise.
Quite literally the equivalent of NBK alliance. They would go around the house and make one ended deals with everyone. Expect you to hold your end of the deal in spite of trashing you behind your back and plotting your demise. Then act sanctimonious if they got caught or called out double dipping playing all sides. Can’t stand gameplay like this. Part of the reason why Rachel’s holier than thou posse is so insufferable.
Depending on who the renom is, I might agree. If the renom’s either Morgan, Ashley or Will, I’m all-in. NOT if it’s Rachel. I want my girl to make it all the way to the finale. As long as she gets 3rd place, I will be thrilled. I’m aware that HER goal is to become the Sandra of Big Brother, but, that ain’t happenin’! If she reaches 3rd place & is the final juror, she will have navigated the treacherous waters of these younger(except Will)players all the way upstream & she will have acquitted herself admirably. Her family will be proud. She will be able to hold her head high, knowing that she did well. She doesn’t need any $$. She just doesn’t want to embarrass herself. That’s all I want for her!
A “faux-lliance”…?
Hope she’s still here next week. If not, her plans will be moot.
This game isn’t that framing hard….why can’t the HouseGuest’s listen to who are protecting each other in evert other sentence….first evict Mickey, follow her with Ashley, then Morgan and finally Rachael then your top worries Vince, Keanu, and Ava drag useless ass Will to the end because he is useless but get rid of him at 3 so all the girls don’t give him the win out of spite.
Your claim that:”This game isn’t that framing hard….” is disproven by your own illustrative scenario. In your scenario, you:”….first evict Mickey, follow her with Ashley, then Morgan and finally Rachael”(sic). You then have: “Vince, Keanu, and(sic)Ava drag useless ass Will to the end…but get rid of him at 3 so all the girls don’t give him the win out of spite.” You have just shown all of us mere mortals how easy & simple this game is, right? WRONG!!! Your perfectly easy, incredibly simple blueprint for showing us all that: “This game isn’t that framing hard….” is WORTHLESS, Kenneth! Here’s why.
Your attempt to show us all(how easy this game is) fails miserably for one incredibly easy & perfectly simple reason. Because you left out one teeny tiny factor, which happens to be the most important factor, by far. The reason your attempt fell flat on it’s face, sir,, is because you failed to account for the complexity & unpredictability of the human mind, sir, thereby rendering your effort pointless & moot. In addition, you committed a simple math error. Your equation leaves out three KEY variables. You fail to account for Kelley, Lauren & Katherine & the part they will play in all this supposed simplicity of yours, sir. In point of FACT, your scenario demonstrates, unintentionally & inadvertently, mind you, that this wonderful game which we all love is full of complexities, detours & dead ends, to the ultimate extent. Those complexities, variables & 16 or 17 HUMAN BEINGS, each with a human mind, the most complex, advanced & unpredictable thought process in the entire known universe, give Big Brother it’s world wide franchised & famous catch phrase, it’s calling card, if you will, sir: EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED!!!
SO, you see, Kenneth, by failing to account for the complexities & unpredictabilities of 17(this season) separate, complex, individually unique & unpredictable human beings, your point fails. For example, what if Lauren, the comp beast, wins the HOH when Keanu is ineligible(as outgoing HOH), puts him OTB and, as the biggest threat in the house, he is voted out? Why do you assume(careful when you do that sir, we all know what it leads to)that Vince, Keanu, Ava & Will are the obvious finally? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.The final4 you see as obvious may be seen by me as unlikely. Mine may seem preposterous to the next person. And so on & so forth. NONE of us know, or can even predict with ANY degree of accuracy, what will happen next, Kenneth. NOT EVEN YOU. In your scenario, why can’t the unaccounted for Kelley, Katherine & Lauren team up to take out Keanu & Vince? Don’t forget, Kenneth, that one of the many beauties of our beloved Big Brother is that HOH’s are ineligible, and thus vulnerable, the following week. So that even the biggest, baddest & smartest houseguest ever can still be taken out the week after their HOH. Maybe the final3 ultimate HOH winner, let’s say Kelley or, maybe Lauren, wants to take Will, since he hasn’t done a single thing all season & will(pardon the pun)be viewed as the ultimate floater that he certainly is? Your attempt to school us all, with your perceived Nostra Damus-like abilities, failed because you failed to see that people aren’t rats in a maze nor dogs salivating at the ring of a bell. They are PEOPLE!
Yesterday when Mickey went to Pop pop looking for validation and support giving him permission to tell her if she ever did too much..
I think I traveled into his head
“oh great, one of my daughters shits the bed every week running her fool mouth, and here comes this one, my little three faced eve-l, telling me to warn her every fool second she goes and does too much. Why did I ever have a one night stand with a rabid platypus?”
Welllll…
actually I think he was thought bubbling about food… but you get the point.
I think Pop Pop will for sure be in final 3. What are your inklings about who’s heading to at least final 3?
the ultimate winner of the rachel/vince/mickey/morgan fight for control of the house, one of kat/lauren, and will. ashley, kelley, keanu, and ava are all pretty much doomed to be evicted before final 3 at this point. this isn’t written in stone and could definitely change, but that first grouping is potential winners with kat/lauren/will with potential to play spoiler if the method in which the jurors are evicted results in a particularly bitter jury.
He makes 6. I usually don’t project final 3. He makes 6.
At SOME point they need a pawn and someone realizes wait a second…. everybody loves him.
You, sir should consider comedy as a profession rather than merely a hobby!
“Rabid platypus”?! You routinely come up with mind pictures that have NEVER crossed my mind in all my 73 years on this planet. You enclose them in prismatic crystal, turn them sideways, hold them upwards in bright sunlight & then shake them like a snow globe, revealing the most unexpected & amazing visions! In my view, sir, you are a genius! Thank you for allowing me to witness the workproduct of your unique mind. To coin a phrase, you, sir, are insane in the membrane! P.S. More cartoons, please.
i don’t really like ava and kelley on the block if the plan is to backdoor rachel. if noms stay the same and mickey wins blockbuster, ava or kelley go home and that’s kind of a wasted week for vinny.
Kelly would go home not Ava.
Ava is also safe with all possible options except maybe Will.
Personally, I want Rachel, Morgan, and Ashley gone. I am seriously over Morgan. Lauren has won HoH and one of the hardest vetos. WTF has Morgan done other than vote and talk mad sheet. At least Kelley, Ava, and Lauren have won things. Ashley and Rachel are toxic.
I would want Adrian or Zae to comeback if they did that this year. Sorry Zach or Riley fans. Zach is a backstabbing weasel and Rylie is cringe.
I watch the feeds, Kelley, Keanu, and Kat aren’t that bad compared to Rachel, Morgan, and Ashley. Big Daddy Will is kinda useless but he will probably win this Season.
Amen to everything you said.
You left out the obvious worst of them all! Is that because you’re a, perish the thought, secret Mickey fan?!
Ava’s not going home against either one of the two she’s up against right now. No way no how.
If Kelley comes down and Rachel goes up, things could get interesting in a Rachel vs. Mickey scenario or a Rachel vs. Ava match-up. Now the stuntcast is involved, and after seeing last weeks shenanigans, we know weird things can happen when production gets involved.
Until Veto picks, we don’t actually KNOW how this week is supposed to go.
My tinfoil about veto picks has some background. Sorry. I don’t totally buy veto picks as random. I just don’t. Never ever have I ever.
The camel’s back was broken in bbcan 7. Costume delivery for veto with nametags on the garment bags of only the veto participants were delivered on Friday nights. Veto picks were Saturday mornings. They only delivered named garment bags for the veto players and host. 18 hours before the veto players were picked. So… how did they KNOW who would be chosen for veto the day before people were picked to play in veto?
That was the moment I determined my Tinfoil theory about Veto picks made sense.
Or production is really good at guessing who will play veto
Or production makes costumes for EVERY houseguest for EVERY veto comp in a season where vetoes had costumes 3/4 of the time and the sizes of the houseguests were NOT one size fits all. That would be a costing foul by the way… no program would EVER make costumes for for the entire cast weekly if only 6 were being worn. It just would not happen.
okay. that was tinfoil for entertainment value. Like it or not, I don’t care.
With Morgan back on her Lauren campaign…. who didn’t see that coming?
Morgan has had a Lauren issue since week two. She’d distended her jaw to swallow her chosen meal Zach… and he only had eyes for…. Lauren.
Lauren voted out Zach. THE UNMITTIGATED GALL. Of course… so did Morgan but that is NOT the point.
Lauren didn’t save Morgan from the block, she saved back-up snack Vince. So now that Morgan has transferred her obsession on to Vince…. there’s Lauren again.
Sideye. Oh yeah medusa, it’s ALL about her indecisiveness. Calling bullshit on that.
Reality… in almost ANY type of comp Lauren will kick Morgan’s ass. Use that.
Reality… Lauren doesn’t fall for the it’s all about Morgan of Morgan’s gameplay. Use that.
But it’s all about indecisiveness. Nah. Morgan’s salty that every time she decides to wrap herself around a man and constrict his brain with her incessant self involved raving… There is Lauren just sitting there, saying nothing, and getting Morgan’s boys to like her.
I can see it in her eyes…. but why aren’t they picking meeee?
What’s even more infuriating is how Rachel’s tries to portray her fakeness with Lauren as sincere. Rachel was just as much to blame Morgan and Ashley with the Lauren bash sessions.
I wonder if Vince wants to take Lauren to final 2 because he will win, taking Morgan is a big risk
Just a side note.
If you look at her bb history, Rachel’s biggest flaw is campaigning.
When she has been on the block, she has almost always been on the block with a bigger target and not really HAD to campaign. Either she was part of an alliance that had numbers and relationships to keep her, or she was next to someone that was a comp beast or a social threat to win that diminished Rachel as the big move.
When left to her own devices…. it’s a weakspot.
Again. I’m only saying this because it is true, not because i’m expecting a Rachel on the block scenario. It’s been mentioned so I thought about it, checked her history… and she’s not that good at campaigning.
It feels like she doesn’t get the motivations of others, and tries to make HER motivations theirs when she has had to campaign.
So will Vince actually use the veto if he wins it? Or will he throw it?
Does he want the heat of making his own move happen? Past game decisions say no.
If it is individual time the choice is out of his hands.
If it is head to head knock out, the choice is out of his hands.
If it is a race of some kind he can determine whether or not he needs to win.
If he wins it I don’t think he uses it. He’s a chickenshit at heart and the best way to avoid confrontation and more heat is to not use it.
However, depending on who he’s in competition with, he may throw it to someone he feels will use it to take down either Kelley or Ava, so he can put up someone in their place. That way he can blame the other person, just like Rachel blamed Lauren for Rylie going up, and reduce the heat factor.
As Another Name explained though, his ability to throw is limited by the type of competition it is. You can’t throw if you aren’t in direct competition you can see with the other players.
given how Morgan flapped her yap today getting Rachel and Ashley all worked up….. he may no longer have a choice.
I swear…. Morgan’s zeal to overshare information of her closest ally to others is exactly why Morgan sucks as an ally.
She felt closest to Mickey and ran Mickey info to Zach.
She felt closest to Zach and Vince and ran their info to Mickey.
She felt closest to Vince and ran his info to Will, Ash and Rachel…
And still NONE of these people are going to pick her first.
I agree. It is her biggest flaw. I hope she doesn’t get the chance to prove us both wrong this week.
Does Rachel have a power? Some sort of envelope she got or something?
she got a gift card for new clothes in an envelope.
It does NOT contain a power from what she told Jimmy weeks ago.
Since it was a viewer vote, adding a power after voting would be a huge red flag.
Keanu for AFP. I feel bad for him, he thinks these people are his friends and because of Jimmy, they treat him like crap. I honestly hope he wins the whole thing, even thought Lauren is my hometown girl
Why is Ashley already pushing keep Mickey?
Veto players haven’t even been picked and Ashley is pushing keep Mickey to Morgan.
Oh I know why she’s trying to keep Mickey…. but why push it before veto picks?
That’s stupid.
Apparently Rylie is considering a defamation suit against cbs and big brother for editing him as the villain and feeding him to the wolves.
You saw the episode edit. I saw the episode edit. Yeah. non starter.
Everything people are upset about comes from feed interactions and his own words on feeds, right?
He read his contract, right?
This hits me to be false victim syndrome whining.
Everyday it seems more obvious big brother was forcing him out.
If he’s a victim of his own actions, and that’s why….
was forcing him out to protect him from even worse scrutiny?
It sure as heck wasn’t because the program has a history of forcing out people without cause. There is a contract and a process.
Ava’s day:
she had a vision that Vince won AFP.
Mickey hinted if Ava wins POV she should use it on Mickey.
Ashley slopbrain motormouthed to Ava that veto can’t be used because then the block would be Mickey and Rachel and Ava and they’d lose a number. So she wants Ava to stay on the block… ? Mickey isn’t a number for Ava.
Veto players have STILL not been picked.
Keanu’s day:
woke up thinking save Kelley, get Rachel on the block.
watched a mouse chase a cat with a mallet.
found out the Rachel plan may not work. Still wants to save Kelley.
shoved a yellow crayon up his nose.
Learned from Kelley that Vince lied about his vote reason, and he’s playing them.
Assumed Vince voted how he did for Keanu’s benefit.
Walked into a Rachel conversation where she is soft pushing that if she ends up on the block he is dead.
Veto players have STILL not been picked.
Morgan’s day:
Having pushed Lauren as renom last night…
Went into the HOH telling Vince Judges strong. Vince said if one of Rachel or Ashley save Mickey, the other goes up in replacement.
Went to Will and spilled waaaay too much Vince business.
Tried to cover by saying Kat is a renom option when Rachel and Ashley got involved
Listened to Ashley tell her she was emotional for wanting Mickey out they have to keep Mickey.
Veto players…. nope… not picked.
So slop brain, oversharing, paranoia have pretty much killed a fake alliance and sketched a nominee right out. And veto players have STILL not been picked.
Morgan has to GOOOO!!!! I’m fed up with her non-stop talking!!!! She has been up in that HOH room for weeks now, what is wrong with these people??? If I were HOH I would kick her butt out of my room, especially when I’m not even there!! So annoying with this years cast all-around.