Jag – “Red staying is BAD” ** updated **

Quick Big Brother Spoilers

Head of Household: Felicia
Nominees: Cameron and Jag
POV Players: Cameron, Jag, Felicia, Izzy, Red, Corey – Host is Bowie
POV Winner: Jag
Veto Ceremony:
Havenots:  America, Matt, Red

Lock your ranks in before midnight

The Situation – Jag floated the idea of switching to Red as the target.. Hisam is Still the backdoor plan.


9:30 am morning all


10:00 am Izzy, Cirie, Bowie and Felicia
Felicia about Hisam telling Bowie Matt is going around calling her a floater “He’s so f***ing Stupid”
Felicia – he’s going to be stunned today.
Izzy – I’m already getting..
Izzy and Felicia go on about how Izzy can’t “poop” but really wants to.
Felicia – eat some fruit..
Felicia – good that I’m not the only one that has these issues..
Felicia hopes the veto ceremony isn’t too late she wants it to be early.
They decide not to wear black.
Izzy – it’s too much
Izzy – For him this is going to be way worse by not making it to Jury… He got outplayed by the leftovers.
Izzy – he got outplayed by the people that can’t win comps..
Bowie – By the scraps
Felicia – Let me ask a question do we still have.. you know how MEME said something about the Bye Bye B1tches.. Is she still in the Bye Bye B1tches?
Izzy – We keep that going there’s no reason to go NO..
Cirie – ummmhmmmm
Izzy – Especially if she’s being sketch..

10:13 am Jag, Jared and Matt
(They are discussing keeping Hisam)
Jag – there’s a middle group that will be Red, Cameron
Jared – Bowie, America
Jag – and the only reason we say that is because if Red wins
Matt – we’ll put up and Blue up
Jag – yes
Matt – he’s not going to go after them
Jag – He’ll put two of us up.
Jared – people are smarter enough to know if they make a move that goes against the people they feel comfortable with next week they are in danger.
Jared Says is Hisam stays and wins HOH it’s not far fetch to say he would put two of them up either.
Jag thinks Hisam is more controllable.
Jag – He knows there’s a target on his back he might not gun for the HOH.
Jag goes on about if they can take a number from the middle the middle will never have the numbers to take a shot at them.
Jag – Hisam has said our names so personally I’m like get your a$$ outta here. I’m also thinking Him leaving is still but..
Jared – Red staying is not as good.
Jag – Red staying is BAD
Jared – yeah I agree
Jag – right now everyone is in on the plan to backdoor HISAM if that changes it’s going to be very very hard to convince that. She told everyone that is the plan.
Jared warns if Hisam finds out that the plan was to backdoor him but he stayed. “he’s going to start taking shots at everybody.. whoever he feels is the strongest”
Jaerd – he won’t take a shot at Momma Felicia.
Jag – is there a scenario where red goes up and Hisam never finds out.
Jared – Cam will tell him..
Jag – at this point we should just pull the trigger on Hisam but these are the conversations we should have had..
Jared – I know..

Jag – is this worth mentioning. If he finds out about the plan what’s to say that’s not what momma Felicia said to make them feel comfortable. (Cam and Red)
Jared – we can make it out to be a lie. He’ll see right through that sh1t.
Jag – at this point it will be difficult to have
Jared says the benefits of Hisam staying are that they thinks he’ll throw the next comp. If he doesn’t there’s no benefit.
Jared – I know for a fact that he’s a bold man so I wouldn’t put it past him to put two of us up.
Jag – so many people know I feel like if we even try to talk about changing the plan it’ll put a target on us (it sure will)
Matt – if Hisam wins it will be one of us and one of them. He’s in the middle.
Jag – naw he puts two of us up.
Matt – I think it’s riskier keeping Hisam.
Jag – at this point we’re already locked in it’ll be tough to even have a conversation.
Matt leaves.
Jared – I feel like at this point we have to be very careful.
Jag – do you think it’s worth it to mention? I think it’s worth it to mention. Just to put the middle on their radar.
Jared – we paint Red as the ringleader of the entire group
Jag – he actually is.
Jared – at the end of the day our chances of winning the next HOH are better than Red and Camerons.
Jared – I’m not worried about COrey he’ll do exactly what we tell him to do.
Jared – I’m worried about Hisam catching wind and being like F*** that now he’s gone rouge.
Jag – is it even possible to meet before the veto ceremony.. I mean it took so long.

10:37 am Felicia and Bowie
Felicia goes on about how hisam will be psised that they all played him.
Bowie – Worst player ever
the laugh
Felicia – they always say never get too comfortable
Bowie – it’s EGOS! it gets them every time.
Felicia – I would love to see us land with 5 females in the house that would be so Cool. (Meh.. bring back Kirsten and Reilly then maybe)
Bowie – unless MEME proves otherwise we barrel on forward we can’t have doubts that is when she’ll feel it.
Felicia – who would you like to be in your final 3 or final 2
Bowie – people I like and I’m happy with either of you to win.
Felicia – oh that is so cool don’t count yourself out


11:22 am Jared and Corey
Jared bring up his conversation with Jag
Corey – I’m just waiting for the veto ceremony I don’t have much to do
Jared – I had to entertain the conversation but.. I already know it’s over as harsh as it sounds I’m not worried about Red much.
Corey – I don’t give a shit about red. I would be down if Red won HOH
Jared – I agree bro

11:37 am Chit chat as we wait for the veto Ceremony.
Jared – anyone here knows how to skateboard
Jag – I know hot to longboard.. which is the same as skateboarding
jared – no it’s not
Jag – I don’t skate.. Do you long board
Jared – no, Longboards go way too fast
izzy says if Hisam told them if he’s really mad he laughs uncontrollably.
Jared says he’ll wear his sunglasses.
“They’ll make you take it off”

11:55 am waiting…

12:20 pm America, Blue and Jag
“OMG he’ll have no clue.. I’m getting goosebumps .. we get to go outside that nice… ”

12:25 pm Felicia and Jag (Jared is also in the room as a spectator)
Felicia – I need to know if you guys are playing me? that after this vote you won’t true to flip it around. I see people pulling Cameron in the back pulling Red in the back So I know you are up to something.. I’m just being straights.
Felicia – I need you to be straight with me.. cause I’m going to be F****ing pissed if I do this thing and next week you guys are trying to attack out a$$.
Felicia- Blue brought Cameron in here and was standing in the kitchen with Red all f***ing morning. (LOL)
Jag – I do not know what that is about
Felicia – I will switch this sh1t up right here.. I aint playing..
Jag – I’m being honest..
Felicia – I want to look dead in your face are you F***ign with me?
jag – I am not.. Not once have I lied to you about that..
Felicia – You said you haven’t lied but you have lied.. the thing with Reilly. You told people we flipped our vote and we didn’t flip our vote.
Felicia is pissed “when I came back here and you were standing with America you were telling her that me, Izzy and Cirie had flipped our vote and just be honest you did that right?” (I think she’s talking about last week?)
Jag – I was told. Izzy walked in and I said are we still good and She couldn’t give me an answer. she said don’t push it and I knew..
Felicia – what would make America say you are flipping our vote?
Feeds flip…
When we’re back it’s just Jag and Jared, Jag is telling him he doesn’t know what Blue was doing. JAred says he’ll talk to Felicia “we’ll figure it out”


12:38 pm Matt talks MOMMA Felicia off the ledge.
Felicia – Corey is a snake we got to get rid of Corey..
Matt – Jag is good..
Felicia – yeah yeah… I appreciate it..
Matt – when I walked in I was ….
Felicia – yeah yeah I’ll f*** all this up today..

Jared joins them. They calm her down..
Felicia – I trust that our seven is a tight a$$ seven.
Matt – we need to meet more often.
Jared says Jag and them are totally onboard with the 7.

Felicia is now calmed down.
They leave.. Izzy joins Felicia..
Izzy what did you say to Jag
Felicia – I cussed the motherf***er out
Feeds flip to Jag in the Have nots talking to MOMMA CIRIE


1:05 pm Felicia, Jag, Izzy and Cirie
Everyone calming down.. Jag leaves..

Felicia – So Matt came upstairs and he said I’m telling you this and please don’t say. Red pulled me aside and he wants me to get in their alliance. I said Who’s in the goddamn alliance? He said Red, Cameron, Bowie, Corey and then I don’t remember if he said MEME .. it had to be MEME. He said they hadn’t pulled America yet they are trying to get her.
Izzy – they are trying to get America and Matt.
Cirie – Corey is good for us because he’ll bring us information
Felicia – I want to make sure Corey isn’t playing both sides.
Cirie – No
Cirie – Do not talk real game in front of Bowie.
Felicia – never again. She’s being a snake
Izzy – her and MEME
Cirie – Her and MEME.. none of our plans go to Bowie or MEME
Felicia says she picked up a long time again that Bowie never says anything bad about Red or Cameron.
Izzy says Blue was putting her ear to the door when her and Felicia were in the HOH, “for awhile.. then she knocked and said Can I use the mirror”
They think Cameron and Red are trying to pull Blue into their alliance that is why Blue was talking to the both of them earlier today.
They agree to make Jag and Matt feel real comfortable.
Izzy “We have to make the 7 feel legit”
Izzy – we have to do our parts if they are losers and don’t do it we’ll do it.
Felicia adds if they see the other side talking to someone they can’t go ballistic. “Like I just did”


1:43 pm Red and Cameron chat about America spreading rumours that there’s a middle group forming.

1:45 pm Feeds cut.. (We’re still waiting for the veto ceremony. I almost think Production is dragging this on forever in hopes we have 3 more near flips)
2:00 pm Feeds still down but they haven’t switch to the pound yet.
3:55 pm Feeds NO

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Team Taylor

As much as I’m looking forward to the fireworks from the Veto ceremony, the house has no one to blame but themselves on keeping Red and Cameron intact last week.

The votes were there to send Cam home and they all chickened out (except MeMe) for fear Hisam would win comps for the rest of the season.

If the next HOH works out favorably, finish the job and split up Red and Cam by any means necessary. Or it’s going to become an even bigger problem.

TreBillis

Why are Red and Cam concerns? Hisam is a MUCH BIGGER concern. Cam doesn’t seem particularly intelligent and hasn’t won any challenges yet. With Red maybe looks are deceiving but I doubt it. Get Hisam out now while you can. And the Cam/Red concern was not as big to Hisam as the Reilly and all of her followers concern.

Team Taylor

I agree – Hisam needs to go first. What I don’t like are the HGs trying a last-ditch effort to campaign for a Red/Cam eviction when Cam could have gone home last week.

Even though he hasn’t won anything yet, he’s proven himself to be quick in the Wire connecting comp on premiere night. He was the only other HG (besides Hisam) to come close to winning the Flower POV comp at least a few times. And he came in 2nd in the DJ comp behind Hisam.

Someone who consistently comes close to winning comps is just as dangerous as someone who wins comps consistently.

TreBillis

Mentally he does not have it though. He is a down the road candidate, but not really a threat to either side. I think he is pretty much a free agent which has it’s positives and negatives.

un autre nom

wth do they put in that d/r koolaid? meth?

un autre nom

tbh it makes zero sense for Jag’s game but makes complete sense for his cowardly lion strategy. thinks he can fall back on no brown on brown crime.

Robert

It’s all because of that damn joke by Cory!! Lol

Robert

Don’t blame d/r. It’s related to Cory’s MiddleMen Alliance joke again

un autre nom

timing is why I question d/r. the middlemen lie is daaaaays old.

Robert

I think Cirie and Izzy are the ones having it linger. Meanwhile, at this rate, the veto meeting will be 6 PM….Pacific Time…sigh

Dilemmadee

Bye bye, Hisam! Glad to see you go!

un autre nom

In a house with ‘brown sugar babes’ as an alliance, I’m not surprised Cam’s ideal 4 is Cam, Red, Bowie, Cory with Matt maybe America and Jared(but only for a couple weeks to workhorse him before cutting him). Before there’s calls of bias yup i see it, and i see the bsbabes and i heard no brown on brown crime. I’m clocking all the bias.

un autre nom

First Jag.
Now Felicia.
these people are all spun…
because nobody communicates outside of their max 3 person bubble.

Robert

There’s a cyclone in the house and the Power of Veto meeting hasn’t happened yet!! Lol

Renee

So yes put Hisam up he’s not going home This is gonna be the scenario Jag is gonna be revved up from Felisa kind of putting him in the corner and questioning them he’s gonna go to his side and they can all easily save hisam And then take out the other side next week he’s gonna be so mad that he will go along with them. That will be his bitch. I don’t know I think anything can happen at this point.

un autre nom

So Hisam is still going up as replacement nom Felicia says.
Then what is the point of Felicia going off?
Manson / Red exposed.
Cory sitting pretty comment? Spoke too soon. Ghost of Reilly. Told Felicia Cory and America can’t be trusted.
Meme and Bowie back to stinkeye for not being rabid gamer squirrells.
Hard to remember: were Cory and America shining Jag on? They could have, hoping that Matt, Blue and Jag make themselves house targets. Also possible Jag only heard what he wanted to hear. Also possible Jag is lying his ass off.
Matt’s info has been dumped. It’s got Red / Cam and Bowie(?) in the shit list.
Of course Cirie vouched for Cory… who fed Cam all the alliance details to weaponize Cam to take out Cirie.

Robert

Congratulations Simon for making sure we had a lively cast this season ! Lol

Nether Region Euphemism

None of these players have the ability to step back and try to find the big picture. It’s all tunnel vision that is driving all the flip-flopping.

The names they throw out are not necessarily threats. It’s just a frenzy of who seems the most likely to be aligning with others and lying to their alliance.

Some of these names aren’t even that likely to win any comps.

You really can’t know if someone who sat in on a discussion of an alliance formation, is actually on board with it. And sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut about it rather than run back to tell your alliance.

It’s like Felicia and Cerie don’t expect anyone but themselves to ultimately put their own game above their alliance to some degree. Only blind faith is acceptable to them.

whoknows

So is Felicia saying it was Jag’s fault that the plan to save Reily fell apart? I’m liking Jag less and less. Now he’s talking about keeping Hisam. Can America (the country) vote to evict Jag?

J'taime

I have said it from the beginning. Jag is my least favorite houseguest. I can’t stand him! I was devastated that he won the power of veto to remove himself.

un autre nom

Felicia is saying Jag lied when he told people Reilly had the votes.
Cirie, Felicia and Izzy were stringing Jag along. America and Cory were listening to Jag and running back to C/J/I/F and talking about how stupid Jag is thinking he has the votes that everyone is saying he has.

un autre nom

Felicia told Cirie and Izzy she was in the d/r (so, before her Jag confrontation), and they are opening back yard for a while before veto ceremony.
I reiterate, what’s in the d/r koolaid?

Robert

Simon, I have a theory that we are not seeing the animals because that place where the animals are was affected by the storm

un autre nom

i read a theory that Jared’s gf is going to put his dog up for adoption due to Jared’s behavior…watch out for Jared’s dog on animal cam.

Lioness

I don’t remember a season where ppl were demanding to know who’s in your alliance and who’s your final 2 and 3 this early much less these morons answering honestly.

Dementia Joey

I bet CBS is freaking that their favorite punk Hisam is on the block. I’m sure Production is working on saving him now.

Cory

Jag pretends he wants to save someone but it actually puts a bigger target on their back, while throwing out a name of suspicion for the next week. And then he’ll vote with the house to cover his game play. He has the goon squad doing his dirty work. I’m almost certain that he has Ciri and Jared figured out.

un autre nom

feeds down while Hisam demands to speak to a manager.

un autre nom

Dear Jared,
When you have Couch on social media saying he coached you for a year on how to big brother…
what the hell is wrong with your fool head.

Texastigger

Well looks like hashmark is on the block given his talk with circus,izod, and bowiewho