Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Keanu
Nominees: Morgan, Mickey, Vince
POV Players: Kelley, Keanu, Mickey, Morgan, Lauren, Vince
POV Winner: Morgan
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: Lauren, Ava, Vince
5:09pm – 5:35pm Gym – Keanu and Rachel
Rachel – Wondering what you’re kind of thinking? What’s your vibe? Keanu – Well, I only have two options. Rachel – So what are your options? Keanu – Ava, Ashley. Rachel – Yeah, what are you thinking? Ava, Ashley right? Keanu – I mean, I have all day tomorrow, so. You know, at least I take comfort in the fact knowing that I did tell you in full transparency, that Ashley was consideration for a 4th nomination. So she has been from the beginning. I don’t really have too many options either. Rachel – Yeah, her or Ashley. Keanu – Putting Will up doesn’t really do anything. Rachel – Except for putting Will up will do the same thing that putting Ava up will do, which isn’t sure whoever she’s sitting next to goes home. Probably Ashley too. Don’t you think Ashley would do that too? Keanu – Yeah, probably. I imagine so. Rachel – Have you thought about this, ’cause you said if Vince goes home, you feel like you’re wasting your HOH, right? Keanu – Yeah. So I would like for him to stay, but. You know, if he goes home, that would be unfortunate. I don’t want Vince to go home but that might very well could be a possibility.
Rachel – Have you considered because if like Mickey wins and she’s there, Vince is sitting next to Ashley, then that guarantee, I mean Ashley or Ava, it would guarantee you hm going home, him going home or Will, right? Keanu – Yeah. Rachel – So you’re OK with that. Well, are you asking me, am I considering putting you up to make sure that Vince doesn’t go home? No. Rachel – OK ’cause I’m not OK. I’m just sure that people are gonna pitching you a lot of ideas. Keanu – I know it. I know it. No I already told you i’m not gonna put you up. I don’t plan on putting you up for the rest of the game. I don’t plan on pitching you to go up for the rest of the game. I realize that if my ultimate goal is to give Vince to stay, then putting you up is the only way that I can 100 percent guarantee him to stay. But I told you that my final two with you is is legit and it actually means something to me. So if this doesn’t prove it after me not putting you up as a renom, then f**king nothing will, because that is literally the only way for me to guarantee that he stays. So I fully acknowledge that. Rachel – Thank you.
Rachel pushes to see if Keanu would be willing to put up Lauren if she could guarantee she would go home. Keanu – it is something to think about but I don’t see myself putting Lauren up and to me that seems the exact opposite of the message I wanted to send when I put Vinny up there in the first place. I don’t think I could morally do that even if it meant 100% guaranteeing Vinny stays. For me that’s a lateral move. I’m trading one ally for another if Vinny stays. In a prefect world Mickey goes home. Rachel – if you want Vinny to stay and you put up Ashley there is a good chance Vinny will go home. Lauren is a competitor and indecisive. Keanu – that’s true. Thanks! Thanks for mind f**king me right now. Rachel – I’m just having you play big brother.
5:40pm – 6:10pm Havenot Room – Vinny and Keanu
Keanu – Rachel just came to me and told me the craziest pitch, which makes sense, but I don’t know if I want to do it because I’ve been thinking of like the only way to like 100 percent make sure
that you stay. Is to put Rachel up. Vinny – because Rachel suggested that? Keanu – No, no, no. Obviously. Vinny – Oh, I was like, holy shit. Keanu – Wait, yeah, yeah. She wants you to stay so bad. She looks like she’s one. Vinny – Wait a second. What are we talking about? Keanu – No, that’s the only way to 100 percent guarantee that you stay, right? At least that’s what I thought in my head. And then, so I was like OK, well that’s easy money. It’s between Ava and Ashley. And then I’m not going to burn my bridge with with Ava. I don’t care if Ashley goes home. But then if it’s her versus you? It’s still a toss up unless Ava is willing to vote for you.
Keanu – All right, so check this out then. Rachel tells me this. She’s like.. want to 100 percent guaranteed Vinny staying put Lauren up and I was like… Vinny – how would that guarantee me, though? Keanu – Because they don’t want her in jury. Vinny – Oh, they don’t want her injury. Keanu – I know. Vinny – Fuck man. Keanu – I know. But then if I put her up, bro, that literally goes back and defeats the purpose of everything that I f**king said of why I put you up in the 1st place.
Vinny – I know. Keanu – that I wasn’t going to put my allies in the line of fire. Vinny – I know. Keanu – But check this out. So f**king if so facto uno reverse card. Ava loves Lauren. Vinny – Yes, she does. I don’t think she votes against Lauren. Ever. Keanu – I know but check this. That’s not even about that. It’s about if I tell her that I’m considering her and she would 100% go home she might vote for you if I put Ashley because she doesn’t want Lauren to go, right? Vinny – that’s some leverage. Keanu – I didn’t want to use that leverage on her. Like with her. I didn’t want to be like, hey, either I put you up or, you know, I didn’t want to f**king do that. Vinny – Yeah,
yeah. Keanu – but with Lauren. I think the only way to 100% guarantee. That you stay without having to put Lauren up is if we can somehow get Ava, bro. As if we somehow get her, if we some guaranteed, we can guarantee Ashley or Mickey leaves. That’s a week I could live with. Vinny – Yeah. Yeah,
100 percent. That’s a week I could live with. But if we but if I f**king, if I basically just trade Lauren for you, bro, that would that would not make me feel OK right now, especially for the
reason I put you up in the first place. Vinny – I know. You see the dilemmas, man. These are the hard parts of this game.
Keanu – Bro, what if I do some f**king grimy sh*t? What if I do some grimy sh*t, bro? Vinny – you’re scaring me. What if I tell her that? The same thing I told you about Lauren, that she 100 percent stays. So like, if you use it on Vince, guarantee that you’re safe by putting Lauren up. And while she puts that veto around your neck, I’m like, all right, Ashley, sit down.
Vinny – Oh my God.
Vinny – Oh my God.
Keanu – She would still stay. She would still stay. Positive. I’m positive of that. Vinny – That’s a play. That’s a play.
Keanu – It’s on the playbook. Don’t say shit. Vinny – No dude. Keanu – don’t say shit because I know Morgan. Morgan doesn’t want Lauren in jury either. I know she’s one of her allies, but I don’t think she wants her in jury either.
Vinny – I just don’t like putting Lauren in danger.
Keanu – No, I’m. I’m not actually going to..
Vinny – OK good.
Keanu – I’m not actually going to put her up.
Vinny – I was going to say I don’t like the the gamble with that.
Keanu – No, dude, there’s no reason for me to do that. It literally goes back on every every purpose.
Vinny – Yeah, OK ’cause.
Keanu – Like no offence, I would rather you go home than f**king me go back on, sh*t.
Vinny – because then you look like you literally backtracked.
Keanu – I have zero purpose, right? But using the name as leverage.
Vinny – yes.
Keanu – No harm, no foul. That’s the way that we have to utilize this.
6:50pm Lauren and Kelley play chess while Keanu watch.
7:35pm HOH room – Lauren and Vinny
Lauren – Well, first of all, we need to work on keeping you this week. Vinny – You know, if I go home, he has the exact same week that I had last week. Pointless and backwards. It just made it work more harm than good. Lauren – Yeah. Vinny – I tried to not even be nominated. Lauren – All we can do is move forward. Vinny – Yes, right. And that’s what we’re going to do. Mickey has f**king won a blockbuster before she’s good at puzzles. I want to make sure that I have numbers regardless of who
I’m next to. I think I would have them against Mickey, ’cause I would have Morgan, you Kelley and hopefully Ava. Lauren – You would have Ava for sure. Vinny – And I need 4. But if I’m sitting next to Ashley.. Morgan, you Kelly. Would Ava do that? I don’t know? Lauren – How are you and Rachel? Vinny – Ok, She still doesn’t necessarily love me. We’re just amicable. I think she is glad that I didn’t put her up. I don’t think she goes out of her way to protect me over someone like Ashley.
8:05pm Backyard Hot Tub – Rachel loses her wedding ring in the hot tub. She runs inside to put on her bathing suit and then comes back out. She jumps into the hot tub and dives under to find it. She then jumps up saying she found it. Rachel – Oh my god Brendon, I would dive into a hot tub face first just so that I could rescue a ring for you. Morgan – Its like Titanic but modern day. Rachel – yeah exactly! Modern Day Titanic!
8:22pm Keanu, Vinny and Lauren
Keanu – wouldn’t this be crazy if this was the final three right here? Lauren – Wild! Wild!
9pm – 9:20pm Lounge Room – Rachel, Will, Ashley, Morgan and Vinny
Vinny – I don’t know. I mean, there’s the obvious one that I don’t think he does, though. Lauren, but he would never do that. That’s like he would never do that because his his whole point of putting me up is about not putting allies in the line of fire. And if he did that, it would negate the whole point of me even being here to begin with, so. I’m at the same time who’s more important?
Morgan to Rachel – If we’re sitting next to each other that’s enough to like talk to him about, because I think if you do talk to him because you do have a read, better read on the House as
far as like as a Big Brother winner and knowing the pros and cons of keeping people and why pretty much. Vinny – Ashley, if you and I end up on that block, one of us has to win the blockbuster. Ashley – I don’t know if I will. Morgan – We have to make sure Ashley doesn’t go up. I am going to talk to him tonight and go over all options. I’ll be like do you want to go over because it makes sense. This is a pivotal point where you can decide who you want to go up.
9:30pm – 10pm Backyard – Rachel and Keanu
Keanu – I think that if I were to put Ashley up, I think she stays no matter what. Rachel – yeah, she would. Keanu – I mean I feel like she might be upset that I put her up in general but I feel
very comfortable that she would stay no matter what. Rachel – So but I mean like I do not feel comfortable with that personally but you’re the HOH. Keanu – Yeah. Are you going to come after me for it. Rachel – I mean, it’s not a good way to build trust with someone. Keanu – Well, I did disclose that I obviously was not going to put her up initially. Rachel – well, then you risk losing Vince. Keanu – I do, but I’m also, I care more about the reason why I put him up there in the first place than I do about saving him. So that’s more important to me. Rachel – Yeah.
Rachel – If it’s Ashley versus Vinny, yeah, but then you risk having Ashley upset with you and Ashley’s friends all upset with you? Keanu – Who you? I mean, if you’re telling me you’re going to come after me, that’s not a good look at Rachel. Rachel – I am not telling you I’m gonna come after you. Keanu, calm down. Keanu – what am I supposed to do? Put Ava up instead? I don’t have a problem with her and I don’t have a problem with Lauren either. Rachel – Yeah. Keanu – So it just doesn’t make any sense and its not not like I necessarily have a problem problem with Ashley, but I
really don’t think like that she would not put me up had she won this HOH next one. Rachel – Yeah. Keanu – maybe she wouldn’t because she knows that to a certain extent she needs me but this HOH I feel like she definitely would have put me up at least as a 3rd nomination if not at least as a 4th one. Just like she is for me. Do you disagree? Rachel – I mean, yeah, I do. Keanu – Who the f**k 4 people was she gonna put up? Rachel – I don’t know. Keanu – Keanu, Kelly, Lauren, Vince. That’s the math I’m doing, so if I was her 4th option, why wouldn’t she be mine? You know what I’m saying? Rachel – Yeah. Keanu – And the only difference is she definitely has no danger of going home. She does not. So I’m, I mean, that’s the conversation I’m going to have with her. I mean, you could tell me who your 4 nominations could be, but if you lied on my face or right now, you’re for sure going up there because there’s no way I wasn’t her 4th. Rachel – Yeah. Keanu – And it’s and I wouldn’t even be upset at her for it because it’s like there’s not that many people, you know what I mean?
Rachel – I just don’t want to lose Ashley.
Keanu – I don’t, Rachel. I don’t think she will. I really think she’s going to stay. Still got all day tomorrow, so I’ll think about it tomorrow more. Did you talk to her already?
Rachel – Ashley, of course. Keanu – What did she say?
Rachel – She said that she’s not going to come for you and that she’s if you keep her safe, she’s going to work with you. She wants three of us to work together.
Keanu – You realize if I make this move, I’m literally no better than Vince. Literally, the whole reason he’s even through people that would not put him on the block out of this game is because I’m convinced that Morgan convinced him to do it. So if I let you convince me to put someone that would not put me on the block and they f**king go home and they will 100 percent go home just so I could save the person that I’m trying not to be like, that’s insane. Rachel – OK, then don’t do it. Keanu – I just want. I want you to understand my thought process behind this because.. Rachel – I don’t.
10:25pm Backyard – Ashley and Rachel
Ashley – The fact that he is not wanting to touch Ava tells me she is an alliance going to deal with them. The fact he’s not considering her shows me there’s some things not right there. Rachel – I agree. Ashley – And she felt safe and she after her talk with him, she did not want to joke about her being on the block. Again, because she ran up there and she was up there again when she was like, oh I’m going to go change out of my swimsuit. I went in like 5 minutes after just because I was curious. She was upstairs and I know it because, you know, nosy Kelley, Kelley always says anything. Oh my God. Oh, she’s upstairs. I was like interesting. Which makes me like she’s not with us. How do we get her (Ava) to be on the block? Hopefully Morgan pitches Ava. Rachel – I mean, Morgan’s gonna pitch everyone. Ashley – To go through every single person, pros and cons with him.
So why does he suddenly want to talk to her so bad? Rachel – he thinks that Morgan might use it on Vince. Ashley – No, she’s not going to. She knows not to do that. She’s not doing. Rachel – No. That just shows how bad his read is. Ashley – His read is so bad.
11pm Backyard – Pool games
11:30pm – 12am Lounge – Ashley and Keanu
Ashley – if you put me up, I do take that as a shot. Keanu – And like that conversation, even if you know you’re going to stay? Ashley – because you’re putting, you don’t put your ally in jeopardy. If you’re a true ally, you’re not putting them in jeopardy. Keanu – Well, I mean but OK. So actually, look at it this way. Had you won this HOH, I would be your 4th nomination. And you can’t lie to me and tell me that I wouldn’t be. So I just think it’s really only fair. Ashley – maybe.. depending on how our conversation went. I don’t know I see you as a potential asset because you can win veto. So if we become a lined and I’m on the block, maybe you, maybe you want it. If I were to save you right, looking at next week, if you were to keep me safe, you wouldn’t be in my initial 2 now. Already know what my two noms would probably be and I mean if you put me up now, you will be in my two additional noms. I will just say that obviously. Keanu – But I don’t know. I’m also really the smartest move for you, even if I did put you up, because as soon as me or Rachel gone, you’re next. Ashley – I mean, if Mickey’s still here, I’m not next. I mean that’s just the facts … but.. I think going into next week with other people there is a high probability that you’ll be going on the block. Keanu – I think Rachel has a higher chance than me being on the block but.. Ashley – Ehhh.. I think like you’re aligned with Lauren and Kelley .. and I think that’s it. Because you don’t care if Vince goes home, Vince goes home, then you don’t have him, right? So if its just Lauren and Kelley, pretty much everyone else you’re going to be on the block probably. I am a vote to keep you, right? If you keep me safe. So is Rachel, that’s two votes. And you only need 4 to stay and three the next week. So that is a voting block for you to stay. Keanu – so basically if you put you up there, you’re threatening me .. in which case if I’m in the following HOH then I have to come after you .. is that what we’re doing? Ashley – no, no I’m not threatening you at all. I am literally just laying out what the facts are. I am a vote for you to stay in the future. Keanu – okay and if you already know you’re staying.. what’s the problem? Ashley – its that you don’t put people in jeopardy if you’re saying you want to work with me a Rachel. Keanu – I am just doing simple math because I would be your 4th nomination had you won this HOH. You would probably put up Vince, Lauren, Kelley with me as your fourth nomination and I don’t think you’re in a position to lie to my face right now. Ashley – no you would definitely be a potential for the renom, for sure. Keanu – and that’s all I am saying. Ashley – well but we didn’t have anything. Keanu – exactly, that’s what I’m saying. Ashley – but two days ago you were saying you wanted to work with me and Rachel and all this stuff. Keanu – well of course.. and do I want to put you up? No, of course I don’t and that’s why I didn’t initially. And if I was going to be your fourth nomination .. what makes you think you’re not mine? Ashley – Let’s be real, you would be on Ava’s initial block.. lets keep it real! Keanu – yeah but that was so long ago. Ashely – yeah but you already were. Keanu – that was so long ago. Ashley – you think you wouldn’t have been this week? Keanu – maybe .. maybe not. Ashley – so what’s the difference. And from our conversation right now its like you’re more leaning towards me than her. Keanu – well I have a good relationship with her so I don’t know if I would or would not but for you I for sure know I would be the 4th nom.
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who is Keanu putting up
Based on the talk he just had with Vince, it looks like it will be Ashley. But, he proposed some “grimy sh*t” to ensure that Vince stays. He said he’s thinking about trying to get Morgan to use the veto on Vince by proposing to Morgan that, IF she saves Vince, Keanu will renom Lauren, who Morgan has been trying to get evicted all season. Then, Keanu told Vince that, as soon as Morgan hangs the veto around Vince’s neck, Keanu will immediately look Morgan straight in her eyes & say: “Ashley, take a seat.” So, getting Ashley into the renom seat could be quite entertaining, if he actually goes through with it. That would leave Mickey, Morgan & Ashley on the block to face Blockbuster. No matter who wins Blockbuster, one of the 3 headed snake monster MickMorAsh would go. And Keanu’s HOH would have gone as he wanted it to go! We’ll find out Monday. I, for one, can’t wait to see how it plays out. I really hope Keanu follows his “grimy” instincts. The look on Morgan’s face will be priceless! Fingers crossed!
not playing the veto on yourself is such a dumb move that i can’t see morgan falling for it. i do wish keanu would target rachel, but it’s high risk, low reward. rachel isn’t as important to get out of the house as it is to break up ashley/morgan/mickey/will.
Thanks for explaining that.
You’re very welcome. Glad to be of some help.
Shouldn’t Keanu have figured out by now that he shouldn’t believe anything he’s told or believe anything he sees ?
But then keanu went out of his way to explain he wont do lauren and also vince told thw judges there is no way for lauren. So it doesnt seem like they are trying to convince the house its possible!?
Please tell me that Vince and Keanu aren’t that stupid. They can’t seriously think that trying to get Morgan to use the veto on Vince is a good idea. If they try to trick Morgan and somehow works, they will see angry Morgan which is probably just as bad as clingy Morgan and spiraling Morgan
Morgan will not use her veto on anyone else. What houseguest would for gawd sakes. Jeez. Is Vince & Keanu that stupid !
The real question is: is Morgan that stupid. She was Keanu’s target all along & she already knows because Vince told her. It’s not as though attempting to get her to use it on Vince by promising to evict her season-long #1 target would do any further damage between her & Keanu. She’s already gunning for him. To me, the plan is no risk & high reward. Nothing to lose & everything to gain. If it fails, so what? But, if it works? Oh, my God, it would result in one of the all-time BB moments, right up there with Lawon & Zach both refusing to save themselves when they each had the power to do so. Despite your certainty, I still think it’s possible. After all, with Zach gone, the only possible showmance for Morgan is Vince. She made it clear in her pre-season interviews that she very much wanted a showmance. And, she has seen Lauren as her only showmance competition from the start, 1st for Zach & now for Vince. Plus, she KNOWS she would stay vs Mickey or Lauren, so she could easily feel safe doing it. Final point, she is desperate to keep Vince safe & this is the only way to guarantee his safety. So, scoff all you want. I, for one, still hope Keanu tries to pull it off. After all, this game favors the bold.And it would be the boldest move of the season. And, if she doesn’t fall for it, he still puts up Ashley, guaranteeing that either Mickey, Vince or Ashley goes home, making Keanu’s HOH a smashing success!
Lawon volunteered to go up on the block and be evicted, because he knew he would have a chance to re-enter the house, and thought he would do so with a super-power. He didn’t win the veto, so he never had the chance to save himself (although he didn’t want to). He LOST the battle back comp to Brendon, who re-entered the house with no power whatsoever.
Marcellas was the player in Big Brother 3 who won the veto and chose not to use it on himself, because he thought he had the votes to stay.
Both moves were idiotic, but only one involved a guy that had a veto in hand who could have actually saved himself.
Morgan would have to be pretty dumb to do that, but you only have to look back one season to find a houseguest that did exactly that. During week 3 Tucker won the veto and used it on Angela. He later won the AI competition and removed himself from the block.
Vince didnt bring that up and only is willing for keanu to try .
I know , some may still may be astonished and / or dismayed that I firmly believe Vince will win the season and/ or be in the F2. He is not to be underestimated. He knows: Morgan would fall on a sword for him so he’s doing what he has to do to placate her needs. So it will come as no surprise then Morgan will use the veto to save him, Lauren sees Vince as her #1 and Vince can easily manipulate Lauren to his will plus Lauren is a good comp player. He has Keanu won over because Keanu, though loyal to Vince is not there to play jury. Keanu can win in the comps that Vince can’t and will always protect ” his friend.” Keanu is fooled by Vince’s poor ” pity me” acting( Ava isn’t, neither is Rachel nor is Kelly but Kelly has her sights and lying, instigating, **it stirring energy on evicting Rachel, so right now Kelly could care less about Vinnie’s true loyalty.)
Keanu is right, Rachel will be gone during jury. I don’t know if there is anyone who can really beat Kelly in comps as the season draws to an end. Kelly, Vince and Lauren at the end?! It’s possible because none of them like Keanu and will get rid of him when they have a chance. Is anyone else finding this season as lackluster and humorless as I am?
Excellent analysis, myrtle. As for your final question, as long as we have un autre nom contributing regularly to this site, the season will neither be lackluster nor humorless!
I typed “murtle” & autocorrect changed it to “myrtle”. Darn autocorrect(shakes fist in air)!
PS – Ava said it best: “Vince could talk his way out of **ll if he needed to. Vince will play his middle of the road game to the end as long as Keanu, Morgan, Lauren,and Kelly have his back. Kelly considers herself close to Lauren, so if Vince has Lauren ( and he does) then he has Kelly by extension.
It’s interesting that many people disdain staying in the middle as good game play. In one of the earliest seasons (BB4?) that is how the winner won. She was friends with both sides of the house so no one put her up b/c everyone liked her. I didn’t watch the earlier seasons so I can’t be sure, but she also never won HOH so she was never in a position where she had to show her cards by choosing one side or the other. Now we call that floating but it was a strategy that worked. I believe this was what Vince was trying to do, but the problem is he never stayed in the middle. He kept floating from side to side and alliance to alliance so he has put himself in a position where he has to choose a side too many times. To be fair the strategy is working b/c he is still here & still appears to be everyone’s friend, but he has proven himself untrustworthy. He may still have value with social dynamics but in the end I do not see him winning. I think he may get taken to F3 but he’ll get voted out as revenge for burning too many people. Plus he has proven himself a convincing speaker and that is not the person you want to sit next to at the end. That said all season Vince has been playing the emotional manipulation card and I am tired of it. If he is in F2 my bet is his answers to questions & final speech will center around how bad he wanted to be on BB & how he made it and here he is, tears, sobbing, give me the money!
Ironically, that middle spot Vinny covets so is inhabited by Ava.
Thank you, fvrplaid! Well said. I agree with your points and perceptive observations. Your closing is funny as well!
What floors me is Vince’s strategy ( poor acting to my mind) is working, and with this group, there is a very strong chance his ” emotional manipulation” will bring him to 750,000$!.
Looks like the effect of Keanu’ s letter from home had a limited shelf life on his sensibility. Keanu has gone back to having stars in his eyes for Vince and retelling everything he hears( especially from Rachel) back to Vince, Kelly and Lauren. Vince plays these people like Chelsey played MJ only Chelsey had better finesse than Vince. Kelly will comp her way to the F2 or F3 spot but unlike Tucker,Kelly lacks his charisma – like him or not , Tucker had it so she doesn’t have many jury votes ( maybe Lauren’s) Vince’s path to a victorious end is closer than ever. He just might have demonstrated a new way of how to play , with tears, and win. ?
Let’s not forget.Vince hasn’t shed a single tear this season. Every tear he has pretended to shed(as you said—bad acting)has been fake. If this cast is so stupid collectively that they cannot see through his bad acting, then they deserve to be swindled out of $750k by his fake tears “sniveling mcsniffles”, as un autre nom has dubbed him!
That sounds about right. I do hope he gets evicted b4 finale night. I really don’t want him to have a chance to sell $750k worth of his snake oil!
I don’t know for sure, but if you’re talking about Jun who won BB 4, she did in fact win one HOH and one veto during that season. You are correct though that she played a “coaster” type of game, especially early on in that season. She and her alliance mate came on as the game approached it’s end to go to final 2 together.
https://bigbrother.fandom.com/wiki/Jun_Song
Well but also she cant let micky and ash ride with rachel and will cause than ava gets pushed to the bottom as well. Ava has more room with kelly and keanu than with ash and micky.
i hope keanu and vince see the stupidity of trying to convince morgan to play the veto on vinny and realize if they want to protect vince, the best strategy after morgan takes herself down is to put up rachel. if mickey wins blockbuster the house is probably more on board voting out rachel over vince, than ashley over vince. heck, if vince had better social game (which he doesn’t), he could be guaranteed to stay regardless of the blockbuster outcome if rachel/mickey/vince were the final noms.
i’m not even sure i want rachel gone, but i do want her on the block (leaving lauren as the final houseguest to never be nominated for eviction). putting ashley in jeopardy seems like a wasted move. maybe it protects keanu if rachel wins hoh, but i think you have to roll with hoping she doesn’t win (or even gets voted out).
He’s counting on her jury vote. That’s why he isn’t going to do what you want him to do.
vince is probably a better jury vote for keanu than rachel though
The only way Keanu gets her jury vote is if he’s f2 with Kelley or possibly Vince. Otherwise she’s voting for the other person.
Somehow i dont trust micky and ava to vote out rachel. I for sure dont trust ash and will .
Seems pretty clear to me that Rachel is going to put Keanu up when she gets the chance, no matter what he does tomorrow. She’s totally snowing him, and he doesn’t have the reading ability to see that.
Rachel has picked her side (or production picked it for her), and she’s sticking with it until she’s evicted, is told to switch, or decides to switch on her own (unlikely to happen).
Until then she’s just playing Keanu, which is why he’s wasting his time and efforts in even talking game with her.
Please nominate Rachel to replace whomever Morgan takes down with her Power of Veto.
Not happening. Keanu knows that she will be taken out soon enough. He’s doing everything he can to ensure that he gets her jury vote on finale night. If Vince & Keanu are the final2, Rachel’s vote will give Keanu $750,000.
if vince and anyone else are final 2, anyone else wins $750k.
Who’s going to take out Rachel?
First cut in the Rachel loyalty schtick.
She has a final 2 with Ava, Though listening Rachel talk about who is an acceptable loss and who is an acceptable renom, you’d think Ava was nothing of the sort.
Stuntcast and Prodopet gonna stuntcast and prodopet.
With Keanu spilling every time Rachel pushes a renom… how long before Ava is informed?
Even Will has been saying to keep judges maybe Ava has to be renom.
Judges is ONLY real to Will.
I think a mistake has been made.
A Rachel and Ashley error.
So Rachel will fight ferociously for her allies…as long as it meets her agenda.
Not a dig really, just an honest assessment.
Fair point. But, in Rachel’s defense, her statement to Keanu was true. She has NEVER stabbed an ally in the back. She has been loyal to her allies on Big Brother, Amazing Race & Snake in the Grass. She has NEVER nommed an ally & NEVER voted to evict an ally. Far more loyal than the overwhelming majority of players she has competed against!
Here’s more. She will defend her allies. She pushed her Keanu relationship as a final 2. That final 2 is contingent on him keeping everyone targeting him in the game and getting rid of people that won’t target him. Yes, it’s for game. But if she’s saying she’s loyal and faking a final 2, again, her loyalty is only loyalty when it meets her agenda.
Similarly, the Judges. It’s not real to her as much as it is a means to an end. 2 judges on the block yesterday evening, and one non judges nominee. Who did she want evicted? Hint it was a Judges member.
The tale of loyalty to a fault only applies at her whim this season.
Rachel’s version of loyalty is the same as is common in real life. In her head she knows who she feels loyal to, and the rest are fair game to use as needed.
Yet the latter is exactly what it means to be a lying disloyal snake.
I don’t care if someone plays that way, it’s a game, and I actually still am rooting for Vince who at least beats himself up in self-reflection.
But Rachel doesn’t own it, and rather acts superior as if she’s better.
Many people are a neurotic mess one way or the other in life, but what separates the problematic from the endearing is SELF-AWARENESS.
Rachel has zero for zero for zero on that.
My point in bringing up the Loyalty angle:
If Rachel is trying to shift her brand from the loud brash annoying whiny girl to fierce loyalty mastermind woman, she needs to concentrate more on how she is presenting this new brand because there are holes that need a little fixing up.
Nailed it.
Perfect description of Rachel’s personality, juliesfashionfails.
I can’t remember but maybe someone else will. Did Julie, when explaining the blockbuster at the beginning of the season, say it would end at some point in the season? I really hate the blockbuster. It makes it so difficult for the HOH to get his/her target out. Look at how many times Kelly has won when she was the target. Same for Morgan & Mickie.
She said’s it’s a permanent addition to the game
But she didn’t say for how long in the game.
Blockbuster doesn’t make sense when you get down to final four (1 HOH 3 OTB). Somebody wins veto and comes down, leaving only 2 OTB. You can’t take one off with blockbuster, because then there’s no vote.
Not to mention the huge percentage of the house the extra nominee causes the HOH to make every week because the numbers are dwindling (down to 9 after this week, with either a double or triple eviction coming up in 12 days to get down to 7 or 6).
Will they even have time for blockbusters if they do a triple on 9/11? My guess is no. I’m thinking this week is the end of blockbuster for this season.
they can’t do a double or triple with a blockbuster.
With 10 people in the house with 24 days left, they have to do a double or triple.
Therefore they have to end the blockbuster at some point.
Julie said it would be a new part of big brother every season. I don’t think she specified if it would run all season.
Imagine the final 4 with a blockbuster.
It ends when jury begins next week. So does the 3 nom shtick. Next week: only 2 noms & veto.
please Keanu please stick to your initial plan and stay true to your real allies . Put Ashley up and send Vinny home. All respect will be lost if Keanu wastes his HoH listening to other people’s tactics that will ultimately destroy him . Ugh…
Rachel needs to go. See is running the game. I can’t watch it. If Keanu doesn’t get Vinny or Ashley out …I can’t watch the stupidly . Best bet is for Kelly to win hoh and every comp and get to the end . Hopefully she doesn’t take Vinny. Ugh…I’m taking a 2 week hiatus from this BB BS . It’s infuriating.
Good idea. You sound like you could use a break. Hope you enjoy your 2 week hiatus!
I absolutely need Vinny the Lip to go home. What a spineless you know what
Guys I’ve been doing the math and I think after this week’s eviction next week will be a triple eviction
Were at week 8 right now
Think about it, there’s currently 10 people in the house, after M&M or Weaselinny go this week it’ll be 9 left
Week 9 – possible triple eviction, 6 remaining
Week 10 – regular eviction, 5 remaining
Week 11 – regular eviction, 4 remaining
Day 83 – live pov and eviction, 3 remaining
i think the 18th is listed as the 2 hour.
they needed 2 hours last time to do a triple.
I hope Keanu doesn’t listen to the bullies Ashley and Rachel. I hope Keanu doesn’t let Rachel or Ashley bully him into putting Ava on the block. Im thinking blockbuster is over this week and they will backdoor Keanu.
and then if that happens they may as well cancel this season and the show in general like bb canada.
Wow. These people really don’t know how to play Big Brother. Ashley really sucks at it. Threatening to put somebody on the block, after admitting to them they would have been your re-nom had you won HOH the same week, is really stupid.
I really don’t understand why Keanu keeps re-hashing this over and over with different people, when he already knows what he wants to do, and what he thinks is the best move for him. Every single one of them is going to try and get him to do what’s best for them, NOT what’s the best game move, despite what Rachel thinks and says. All she cares about is not losing a number for her side, period, end of discussion. She absolutely is NOT looking out for Keanu’s best interest, nor is Ashley, Morgan, or Vince. They all must think Keanu is dumber than dirt, and while I admit his strategy has been kind of out there, that in itself doesn’t mean he’s a complete moron, and can’t see exactly what they’re doing. Even Stevie Wonder could see what those witches are brewing, but don’t ask me to explain Keanu’s blind spot for Vince. That one has me bamboozled.
Morgan may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I don’t think she’s dumb enough to use the veto on Vince instead of on herself. If she does, I hope she gets evicted by a 6-1 vote, because surely the lip would vote for her to stay after she put the gun in her mouth for his spineless ass.