Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Rachel
Nominees: Mickey, Morgan, Vinny
POV Players: Mickey, Morgan, Vinny, Will, Rachel, Lauren with Rylie as the host
POV Winner: Lauren
Veto Ceremony: Lauren used the power of veto on Vince and Rachel put Ryle up in her place.
Havenots: ?
8pm Storage Room – Keanu and Lauren
Keanu – Did Rachel tell you that she was going to put Rylie up? Lauren – She didn’t tell me a specific name. She wasn’t putting you up. She said that. She’s like, I don’t want to put Kelley up. She’s like, I have to consider all of my options. And I could. She was like, I have to consider all of my options. Keanu – She’s trying to f**king make it sound like she told you specifically that she was going to put him up and you did it anyway, which I don’t believe at all. And I don’t think that you would lie to me if I would. Lauren – I mean, I didn’t know who she was going to do. I mean, she said she was going to consider all of her option. Keanu – yeah, of course. Which, you f**king say that all the time. I just don’t understand like that of all the moves does not make sense at all. It really doesn’t. Like the whole premise of her using Vinny as a pawn to begin with was built around the fact that we have five votes to keep him. That was the only reason she even threw him up as a pawn anyway.
Like what? So you’re going to replace him with someone who’s even more popular than him. She’s like legit trying to convince me that Rylie pulled her into the havenot room and told her that if he won HOH, he was going to put me up. That doesn’t make sense. I don’t think he’ll go against me out. I hope he doesn’t think I f**king had anything to do with this. I had zero f**king idea. She’s trying to turn me against him. The problem is, I trust and believe both of them. And like you saw it yesterday, like, Rachel will perceive something
and like, believe it is truth. You know what I mean? Like, she thought they f**king pulled you in here and were like f**king use the veto, blah blah, blah. Lauren – I literally walked in here and they were just talking. Keanu – I know. And she was f**king pissed, bro, because she thought you were like on the verge of tears. Like she legitimately believed that and I’m like OK. Well, I can’t be mad at her because if that’s what she thought happened, I would be upset too if I thought that was happening. But it wasn’t so she ended up apologizing and I was like OK. Cool, we’re all good. But like, that’s how she is. She perceived sh*t and just like takes as gospel. I don’t know what the whole, you know, Rylie said. He would put me up, thing is. I’m not going to vote him out this week like.. I mean, obviously, you know, if he wants him and Katherine to be final two, obviously he has to get rid of me at some point. But I think right now it’s too early, you know, for him to say something like that out loud to anyone but Katherine would be f**king stupid. And I know, Rylie, he doesn’t talk. Lauren – He doesn’t talk about anything. Keanu – I feel really close to him. Like, he doesn’t talk about stuff like that. That’s why he’s so f**king under the radar. Out of everyone in this house, he told the one person that he’s been telling me since the very f**king beginning.
Watch out for that one. That makes sense. And then Rachel had the audacity to tell me that he’s told multiple people at the house. I was like, oh, let me guess, he told Mickey, Ashley, Morgan, Will and Ava. Right, right. Those are the people he told? That’s a weird coincidence.
Yeah, yeah. Like, why the f**k would you get rid of me?
HOH room – Rachel and Katherine
Katherine – Hey, hello. Rachel – Hello. So I’m sure you’re not very happy with my decision. Not super understandable. I’m not going to lie or defend my decision. That was a decision I
made and I have reasons. But I do want to let you know that I told Lauren this morning before
she used the veto, that I was going to put Rylie up if she used the veto so she knew. Going to the veto ceremony I was going to use, I was going to put Rylie as a replacement nom. And she made that decision. I was trying to get her to not use it. She still used it. I felt like I had to follow through with that. Katherine – At the end of the day, you for sure told her that it was Rylie. Rachel – I said I said, Lauren, I’m using the veto on Riley or I said Rylie will be my replacement nominee. You can pull her in here and ask her if you want.
So I didn’t want her to use it. She decided to use it. I told her it was going to be Rylie. And I had to follow through. I know you’re upset. But I for sure told her, I didn’t even say I’m considering Rylie, I said it’s going to be Rylie. I’m putting Rylie up. And I was using that as a threat because I didn’t want to, but I wanted. I didn’t want her to use the veto. And I thought that would be the only thing that would make her not use the veto. But she decided to do it. And I’d be happy for you to pull her in and talk for the three of us
girls to talk. Even after I said that to her, she said, I still think I’m going to use it.
And she did. Katherine – Do you think that she just didn’t believe you? Or did you tell her
that there was another idea? Rachel – No, I told her that it was Rylie. And I was really using it as a threat, but because she did made that decision, I had to follow through. I even said to her, your actions have consequences, Lauren. I hope you know that. Katherine – I don’t know what to do with that. Rachel – She’s coming up here right now. Katherine – It’s just crazy to me. Rachel – I agree. I thought it was pretty crazy too. I thought that that would keep her from using it. Katherine – Yeah, I’m going to have to talk to her about that, ’cause that’s insane. I would love to for us to talk, you know, I can leave the room, but I
just want her to. I want her to say it in front of you because I wanted you to know that that was what was said. Katherine – If that’s OK with you. Yeah, I probably talked to her tonight.
I just, I don’t see why she would still use it because she knows that. She’s not on Rylie’s radar at all. Rachel – I know. Like, Rylie likes her. She literally said that you guys were her number two allies. Katherine – Did she say why she was still gonna like? Rachel – Yeah. She said she wants to make sure that Vince was safe. And I said Vince has the votes to stay. I told her that seven times, 100 times. Keanu told her that Vince had the votes to stay. Kelley told her Vince had the votes to stay. We all told her Vince had the votes to stay, but she didn’t listen to any reasoning. I literally said to her, if you do this like your
actions have consequences? Vince has the votes to stay. I said he’s not going anywhere. And she said the only way I can control if he’s not going to go anywhere is to use a veto on him. I said OK, well, that’s the decision that you have to make. And I said I’m putting up Riley.
Havenot – Rylie and Ava
Rylie – She wants Keanu to flip on me. Because Keanu likes me, obviously. You know? But I don’t have to like. I don’t like his gameplay. I don’t agree with him at all. I like him as a person, you know what I’m saying? But I don’t like his gameplay, but what they’re trying to do right now is manipulate people, ’cause I will be real with you, Ava. I’m the target now. Ava – No, Rylie. Rylie – I’m being so dead as when I say this. Ava – I’m not voting you out. Rylie – I appreciate that, Ava, frankly. I was pissed as f**k. I don’t think you know. Because you’re my f**king literally you. I’m being real with you right now, you and Katherine are my closest people in the house.
8:40pm Bathroom – Vinny, Katherine and Lauren
Katherine tells Lauren what Rachel just told her that Rachel told Lauren she was going to up up Rylie if Lauren used the veto but that she said you were going to use it anyways. She said that she tried to make a deal with you. And that she used Rylie as a threat, as a last resort. Vinny – And that is a load of shit, I guarantee. I mean, I don’t speak for you ’cause I was in the room for your conversation, but that is absolute bullsh*t. There’s no fucking way. Katherine – And then she told me to pull you into the room. So we got all three talk. How many different ways that happened? Did she ever mention Rylie or say like oh what if someone like Rylie’s up? Lauren – She did say, she said I have to consider all of my options, even if that is somebody that’s that is close to you. Katherine – OK. Lauren – she did not say anyone by name, I’m telling you. If I thought that you or Rylie were going to go up, I would not have used it. Katherine – I believe you.
8:40pm – 8:55pm HOH room – Rachel and Rylie
Rylie – I am disappointed and not happy and I just wanted to let you know that. Rachel – This happened because I didn’t want Lauren to use the veto. I asked her so many times nicely. I told her I didn’t want her to use it. I said I tried all these different methods to get her to not use it, but she was hell bent on using the veto. And I said, Lauren, if you use the veto, I’m putting up Rylie. And she said she thought she was still gonna use the veto. I told her Vince had the votes to stay. Keanu told her Vinny had the votes to stay. Everyone told her Vince had the votes to stay. She said she was still going to use a veto and I said to her, your actions have consequences and I felt like I had to follow through on that threat. Rylie – OK. Rachel – I didn’t want her to use it. And I’m sorry. Rylie – no big deal, Rachel. Rachel – It is a big deal. I know you have full faith that you will win the blockbuster. And if anyone is going to win it, it’s going to be you. And even if anything happened, you have the votes to stay. Rylie – I don’t know. Rachel – You do. Rylie – I don’t know. Rachel – We’ll find out. This was purely a game decision. Rylie – Yeah. Rachel – It was never my intention and I truly have full faith that you will win the blockbuster. You’re not going to go home. You’ve won a blockbuster before. Rachel starts telling Rylie that he lied to her and that is why she up him up. Rachel – This is just purely a game move, I understand, and its strategy. I understand Lauren wanted to take a shot. Vince wanted to take a shot. They didn’t believe me. And you’re going to win the blockbuster. So you’re going to be safe. You have the votes to say you’re going to be safe. I’m not putting you in any danger. It’s like you’re a pawn that’s being used to win a blockbuster. But your allies, Lauren. Rylie – I don’t work with anybody in this game, Rachel. I’ve told you that I have friends. Rachel – If you’re not my ally, then why would you be surprised of that? Rylie – Rachel, I don’t work with anybody like you’re the person that I said I would. These people have never asked me to work with them. I see what goes on around this house. It’s hard for me to trust people, especially things that’s happened in my life. It’s hard for me to trust people. Outside of this game. I told you, you’re the reason why I started watching Big Brother. I trusted you 100%. I don’t have to be in the room every night, like I said. I felt like we were awesome, we were cool, and today I just felt like I slapped inside the head. Rachel – Rylie, I am sorry. I made a mistake. Rylie – its okay. Rachel – I don’t know if I can make it right. I didn’t think I was putting you in danger because I knew you were going to win the blockbuster and you have the votes. But you’re right there were 7 other people and I didn’t make a good choice. I am sorry. I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me. I never would want to hurt you. Rylie – its all good…
Storage Room – Katherine and Lauren
Katherine and Lauren don’t trust or believe Rachel. Katherine – OK and none of it will matter. Thursday after 6:00 PM because Rylie will still be here and all of us will get over it. Lauren – And one of us are going to win the HOH and Rachel is going to go home. Katherine – I love you. Lauren – I love you. I love you.
9:03pm HOH Room – After Rylie leaves Rachel looks at the camera and says “I obviously feel horrible..”
9:05pm – 9:20pm Havenot Room – Katherine, Lauren and Rylie
Rylie tells them about his conversation with Rachel. Lauren – If I thought for a second that she was actually going to do it, I would not have used it. Katherine – At the end of the day, she shouldn’t have made that threat just to get you to not use it. She made that threat to give her another excuse to put Rylie up. She has her own reasons for wanting you up. She knew that she was going to be able to throw you under the bus if she made comments about it or said it in a certain way. She set you up for that. She didn’t bring it up the day before. She brought it up when they said veto is in an hour. That was not an accident. That was not last minute. That was intention, that was strategic, and that was manipulative. You’re gonna stay. I’m betting you’re gonna win the blockbuster. I told her I’m letting her think that I’m not happy with Lauren. Rylie leaves. Lauren – I wish I wasn’t stupid. Katherine – you’re not stupid. Lauren – I am not making any other decisions without fully consulting first.
Bedroom – Lauren and Rylie
Lauren – I just want to say. I’ve said it before, but I can’t say enough. I love you, and Katherine literally to death. They hug. Rylie – love you girl.
9:50pm Havenot Room – Kelley and Vinny
Vinny – I don’t like she’s spinning a weird web of lies right now to get herself out of the hot seat. There’s no way that works. I hate this game, but I talked to Rylie and Katherine and Lauren and they’re good with the five of us. Later tonight, when you guys are, I want to talk to all of them because I want to make sure that they’re not believing what Rachel is saying. They can’t believe that shit. It’s BS and they have to know it. We’re both going to have to reinforce them that there’s no f**king world where Lauren knows that Rylie’s going to go on the block and doesn’t give a f**k and chooses me. Never do that, she would have said. Vince has the votes. It’s too risky. I’m not going to bother. That’s such a wild stretch of a lie. Kelley – Why did she use it then? Vinny – I don’t know. She did what she wanted to do and she’s grasping at straws to justify it. You can’t justify it. Those are your actions. Kelley – Yeah, it’s not Lauren’s fault. Vinny – that’s what you say. What are you doing, that’s like running a red light, getting a ticket and blaming the passenger. I think she thought the renom was going to be Ashley and then no matter what the case is, it’s a win of a week. Wrong. And apparently Rachel started telling people very last minute. She doesn’t f**king talk to me.
10:30pm The house has calmed down. The houseguests are chatting about random things and hanging out.
10:45pm Storage Room – Katherine and Rylie
Rylie about what he said to Rachel – I don’t have to be up your a$$ 24/7 in your room all day like everybody else. Knowing that we trust each other. I said, oh man, and if I give you my word. I don’t switch up my word and I don’t have to f**king be in your room constantly. She was knowing what I was saying. I don’t have to be in your f**king, if they feel the need to go to you all the time and not leave you alone. I said I’m a man of my word. If I tell you something. I mean, it’s nothing to switch up, I said. I do not have to be in your room all day, every day. She started tearing the f**k up. Did she tear up with you? Katherine – No.
10:55pm Bathroom – Ava and Rachel
Ava – Everyone is just being so fucking fake. I’m over it. Rachel – I know. Ava – Can I just say something like, literally people in this house, I feel like they’re Rachel, like so evil. Like, Oh my, gosh, I’m like literally, at least Rachel’s like OK. Hi. Here I am playing Big Brother. This is me. So everybody else wants to sit around and pretend like they’re not playing Big Brother and act like they’re amazing. Like I’m never putting you up, you know.. f**k you guys like.. Rachel – Wait, who said I’m evil? Ava – Nobody said that you were Evil. No, nobody said that you were evil. But it’s just like a genuine vibe. I can’t believe it.. They’re all like, I can’t believe she would do that. Rachel – but the point is the fact that, that’s the vibe means I made the right choice. Ava – There you go. No, that’s the exact same way I felt was like putting up Zach and everybody.. Rachel – I get it. I get it.
12am Zzzzzz while Morgan and Vinny whisper about past events and about Rachel. Morgan – I think the season is hard for her. One she doesn’t have Brendon and two, I feel like, I mean has she played the game perfectly.. no. Like she put two allies on the block and didn’t even talk to them about it.
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Where did production find Lauren? I genuinely ask because the way she’s playing is horrendous
When they found her they thought she was pretty, and said “who’ll care if she plays horrendously, she’s pretty”. Production is so transparent.
Exactly! They just want to get people to watch. They’re not stupid. They know half the potential viewers are men & that 90% of men(the straight ones)like to look at pretty women, especially younger women wearing skimpy bikinis. That’s the whole premise behind Love Island. It’s only part of the premise behind BB, but it’s a major part. It used to be pretty white women & handsome white men, but, in the modern BB era, it’s a mix of demographically balanced pretty women(Amy,Ashley,Ava,Katherine,Kelley,Lauren,Mickey,Morgan&Rachel) & handsome men(Adrian,Cliffton,Isaiah,Jimmy,Keanu,Rylie,Vince&Zach)of varying degrees of attractiveness. It IS transparent. But, it’s all based on Nielsen ratings. And the almighty dollar.
E x a c t l y !
Pretty women Ashley, Katherine, Kelley, Lauren, Morgan.
The rest, average to not so good.
Kelley? Morgan? No. They weren’t cast as the pretty ones…
Average
Well then, what is the excuse for the rest of the people they cast? Because Keanu is the only other good-looking person in that house!
Lauren? Was she home schooled? Or a private Christian school education? I ask that because she reminds me of my nieces who were overprotected by their parents and made fearful of the world. But if that were the case she never would have ventured onto this show. She reminds me of a newborn baby calf trying to stand for the first time.
Yeah, no. Kelley would be the homeschooled kid out of the bunch.
Kelley is a pilot. She has been to 40+ countries and every state in the US. She may have grown up in a small town, but she’s more than broadened her horizons!
I’ve got my pilots license too (single engine land) and it’s not that hard if you’ve got the time and the money to do it. I started tail end of March and had my license by mid July. That’s quicker than most, but I was flying about 3 times a week back then.
The hardest thing to master is the weather.
You have crashed 3 times you fagwad. Quit bullshitting you aviation license is about as real as Jesse Jackson is s true Reverend.
Actually I’ve had my license for 31 years and never crashed once dipshit.
Like I said below, it’s no big deal anyway, which was my entire point.
To The Beef: And your point is?
My point is having a private pilots license is no big deal.
Yeah and homeschooled kids are scholastically far above average, but socially crippled.
Lauren is the little sister in her own family, youngest and prettiest in the house, so she’s timid af.
Kelley is weird and so very socially awkward. She’s also bragging about putting a legit hex on the left side of the memory wall.
I was raised in a Pentecostal church and know a ton of real life homeschooled individuals. Lauren is so far from that vibe. Kelley is lands right smack in the middle of them.
Exactly; but I think more of an act. She doesn’t bite her tongue sometimes when she’s with her core people.
I’m convinced a family member MUST be a shareholder or an executive with the network.
She believed she could just win a comp and someone male would tell her what to do so she could do it, and feel good about doing it because she got male approval. When left to her OWN devices her reads are good. When faced with a decision she can’t.
She exaggerates her innocence and naive child identity. She does so as tactic. She also does so because she is petrified of embarrassing herself or her family.
As if bobblehead barbie isn’t embarrassing as a look.
Horrendous that she’s still in the game ?
I suppose there were others that needed to go before her….Lauren is one who blends into the woodwork.
That’s NOT what Rachel for AFP said! She said: “the way she’s playing is horrendous”. You completely twisted her words to create a phony straw man to knock down! In fact, Lauren’s ability to make a decision IS HORRENDOUS, which is why her game play IS HORRENDOUS! When she was HOH, the fool nominated 2 of her own allies for eviction! Who does that?! Lauren, that’s who! When Rachel asked her not to use the veto & told her the renom would be Rylie, she used it ANYWAY because, when ALL of her allies told her that Vince was safe, she chose not to believe them. She chose Vince over Rylie, believing that her fake Final2(fake for him, real for her)was going home. She’s gullible, choosing to believe the b.s. MickMorAsh were shoveling & choosing NOT to believe her own allies. She cared more for her fake Final2 than for her girlfriend’s boyfriend. Rachel’s mistake was threatening to renom Rylie to get Lauren to not use the veto. What Rachel SHOULD have done is tell Lauren that, if she used the veto, Katherine would be the renom. If she had, Lauren would not have used it. But, Rachel didn’t do that, so here we are.
“What Rachel SHOULD have done is tell Lauren that, if she used the veto, Katherine would be the renom. If she had, Lauren would not have used it.”
Yeah, given what happened, I don’t think that’s necessarily true. Lauren didn’t believe that Rachel would re-nom Rylie because Vince told her Rachel was bluffing. Vince would have told her the same damn thing if she said Katherine’s name rather than Rylie’s, and based on her reasoning for putting Rylie up (he’s gunning for Keanu), that action makes more sense than her putting Katherine up would. The bottom line is, she would still believe Vince that it was an empty threat just to get her not to use the veto, which it really WAS supposed to be.
The problem is Lauren FAFO. Rachel decided she had to follow through or (most likely) be viewed as weak if word got out she threatened and then didn’t. Therefore the only difference if she subbed Katherine’s name for Rylie’s is that Katherine would be OTB right now.
They probably chose her to be this year’s big showmance, but no one told her who to go after. She chose the wrong one who wasn’t interested. Oops.
Actually Zach chose her, but she didn’t want to showmance with him.
maybe vince is good for her game?
Somebody ought to be good for her game because she certainly isn’t.
Sounds like you’re a Rachel fan crashing out.
Right! And they keep calling her a super fan smh
So, do we know if Rachel actually told Lauren that it was Rylie she’d put up as the replacement, as she claims, or if she just told her that someone close to her would be going up as Lauren claims? She said, while talking with Kat & Rylie “Lauren – If I thought for a second that she was actually going to do it, I would not have used it” sounds to me that she knew it was going to be Rylie but then again, this is Lauren we’re talking about.
Rachel told her. She just told her the wrong name. Lauren might have thought Rachel was just bluffing when she answered Lauren’s question “who would be the renom?” with “Rylie”. If Rachel had said: “Katherine” instead, Lauren might have been more afraid to call what she perceived as Rachel’s bluff. But, sadly, Lauren’s such a fool that she STILL might have used it anyway! Who knows what goes on in that fool’s mind?
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Or is it: A wasted mind is a terrible thing.
Um, Lauren’s exact words when she’s telling her veto conversation with Rachel was “If you use the veto, I’ll put up someone close to you. Lauren says she did not say anyone in particular..
So let’s see.
She’s close to Vince; so it’s not him because he’s on the block. Ok, she told Rachel she’s close to Katherine and Riley; and she is, and no one that I know of that she’s close to. So Rachel did what she told her she would do. And she picked the biggest threat of the two. My dear Watson you’ve got it.
No one wants to believe that sweet ole’ Lauren would do it. Lol
Rachel told her she was putting up Rylie. Lauren chose to believe Vince, who told her Rachel was bluffing. Why? Vince wanted off the block.
Lauren is a moron.
Wow !! I hope after BB is over, I hope that Keanu recorded this entire season. Keanu is just like Rylie said, he very naive, he really has no idea of what’s happening in the house.
Keanu thinks that he and Rylie are tight, according to what Rylie said to Rachel, he does not dislike Keanu, but he dislikes his game play.
I don’t buy that, Rylie claims to be such a warrior, and does not give a damn, then why doesn’t he tell Keanu point blank, man you and I talk, we shoot the crap, I have to be honest with you, your gameplay is not really helping you in this game.
Even though, we all know, this will go right over Keanu’s head, because Keanu thinks he has mastered the game. One thing Rachel said when Keanu said it was too early to make such a big move, Rachel said, it’s never too early, you have to make big moves, you have to be willing to put the threats on the block.
That is true, sometimes you have to make a move, take a risk, hopefully the people who will be voting, will understand they have a big target on the block, someone who thinks they are running the house, but this big target is not working with you, they only talk with you, when they need to manipulate you, get you to vote how they want “Mickey”, if the big target is still on the block, Thursday night, have the balls to evict them.
Keanu is so lost in this game, and I don’t know why Lauren signed up for BB, she claims to be a BB super fan, then have a spine, think for yourself, do what is best for your game, don’t be so afraid of other housemates.
Work with the people you are close with, who have your back, MAKE A DECISION LAUREN, stop looking for approval, stop with this I want to get everyone’s input. Work with your people, make a move, know they have your back, do what you need to do, advance yourself closer to winning the $$$ 750k.
I don’t know why Lauren or Morgan think Vinny is good for their game, Vinny fake crying, no tears, oh I’ve tried for 10 years to get on BB, VINNY IS A FLOATER, A WIMP !!!! Vinny is weak, Vinny, Morgan, Mickey, Rylie, Lauren, I want to see them all evicted.
I Can’t believe I’m saying this, but at least Rachel stirred the pot, put up Mickey & Morgan, Rachel lit up Mickey the dictator, Motor mouth, rambling Morgan, I’m team Rachel this week, and I don’t really care for Rachel, I don’t know why everyone is afraid of Rachel, but I will say this, Rachel put Mickey’s butt on the block, so this week, Rachel is ok with me.
Back to Keanu, I would really enjoy if BB would have a reunion after each season, give the players time to watch their season, then CBS had them all come back for a 2 part reunion, like they do on the housewives shows, and let’s discuss how they felt when they had a chance to observe and critique their game play, see how people talked behind their back.
i think that would be interesting, I’d love hearing what Keanu feels after watching himself on TV, finding out how nobody was really being honest with him, how they tolerated him, played him each week,
I don’t understand how Keanu goes up on the block every week, but still thinks that is because he’s a comp beast, NO !!! You told everybody your every thought, you are not a comp beast, you were a naive know it all, don’t know how to read the room.
Don’t have a clue about who really likes you, who you can trust, dude, I hope in the real world, you are good, and you are successful, you might be a really compassionate caring dude, I hope as you grow older, you learn how to listen, feel people out, LISTEN, process what you have been told, know who’s got your back.
I like the dude, i hope all is well with his Father, who he’s trying to help, I just don’t think BB is his game, Keanu just needs to slow down, really pay attention to people’s body language, react and act accordingly. I get the feeling Keanu in real life, is someone that would be a ride or die friend, I hope he has that outside of the house.
Because these people in the BB house, dude, they don’t have your back.
He needs to slow down his social game in the same way that he slows down and beats competitions. He’s very observant when he slows down.
I think your idea for an annual BB reunion show is a GREAT IDEA!!! Hope Grod’s Asst. reads your post, shows it to her & she decides to do it!
Im rooting for Keanu even though he is blowing up his own game. From the start this guy didn’t have a chance. Jimmy was trash talking Keanu and got everyone on board. The way most of them have treated him, isolating him, never happy when he wins the veto or blockbuster and just being mean he still has one of the biggest hearts out of all of those weasels. He is so naive and it’s hard to watch. I think he just wanted a friend and someone to trust and those people are filling his ears that they have his back blah blah blah. This kid has been fighting to stay in the game since week 1 and he deserves to win more than any of them. I wasn’t a Rachel fan but I like how she is trying her best to protect Keanu but of course Keanu does not listen and it’s frustrating. I really believe production had a hand in Rachel putting Rylie up since the viewers are disgusted by his behavior, and I heard there is a petition going around to get him out of the house. Vinny, Morgan, Mickey and Rylie I cant stand and I would be happy to see any of them go but I really want to see Mickey or Morgan walk out that door Thursday!! I cant watch another week with all 3. I cant wait for them to see how much they were disliked by the viewers. Team Keanu and now Rachel!!
I wish I could give you about 5 thumbs up just for your comments on Vinny alone!
I’d hate to be the car behind Lauren at a drive thru while she looks at the menu trying to decide what to order.
Hilarious, but probably true.
That’s hysterical.
Sidebar:
If a houseguest such as, say, Ava is having a cam talk and production is bleeping it…
what are they bleeping?
It’s a camtalk about the house being full of shit and liars, so nobodies word has any value. She says the only person she trusts is Will.
So… what is there to bleep about that? And yet we get small snippets cut.
I have a feeling that Rachel choosing targets, Ava playing around those choices, and trying to build her game, only for Rachel to change her mind and her tune.. has disenchanted Ava. She still sees game as game… but I think the trust was eroded.
Further, she was trying to build those relationships, and today saw Vince have private one on ones with each person she was trying to pull closer. So in a way, she’s pigeon holed because working with Vince is not on the agenda.
The sleeper awoke only to realize that life continued while her eyes were closed.
But really… the feedcuts to that cam talk has my tinfoil mind saying mkay what is d/r pushing on these hosueguests that they aren’t allowed to talk about?
Or what is she talking about from past feedcuts that she is still being covered?
Kelley’s an heiress? We know.
Riley is a nope? We know.
Mickey behaves in a vile way to people? We know.
Rachel has wanted to quit more than once? We know.
When Lauren makes a decision they have to cam her from the waist up so that you can’t see Vince’s arm up her ass to operate the mouth? We know.
Morgan is thirsty af and now thinks Vince is her man? We are getting that idea.
This entire season FEELS like they cast the least capable people so that the two or three that have an almost passable ability to play bb look like fricken wunderkind. I swear, it’s like they went to an in house treatment facility for dipshits and loaded up a van by making a trail of m&m’s. Oh come on. Ain’t nobody in the future going to be saying wow they really revolutionized the game…. I wanna come on bb and be the next bb27 cast member name here. Ain’t gonna happen. Then the producers added that stupid blockbuster that completely ruins backdooring, short term and long term strategizing, and campaigning.
Good going… so now the game is three comps and downtime. Great. Why not just cut feeds all together and send out a curated video of three hours of storyline authorized clips every day and REALLY kill everything that makes the show worthwhile.
I love to read your posts & when you get to opinions, I pretty much agree with you, especially right now. Finally, someone is speaking out about how the blockbuster has ruined the backdoor. I hated it last year & I hate it even more this year.
Also about Keanu. He alienated so many really early when he vowed to take each houseguest down. This was the wrong group to say that to. In a normal season, that would have just rolled off the backs of at least 75% of them, with them all saying, “Hey dude, chill. We all plan to take everyone out. That’s the game.” And then, the game would proceed as normal. But with this group, saying that made these dummies mad & they still remember that even the ones who claim to be with him. They don’t trust him. Only Rachel, who knows how to play the game, really sees the potential in him. She claims he’ll get to the end. Maybe she was just trying to flatter him, I don’t know, but if he wises up, it may happen. I’m not a big fan of him (none of them, actually) but I can see potential.
The blockbuster should not be a permanent fixture. Nor should it last the entire game. A few weeks would have been fine.
Agreed. As usual, perceptive & illuminating. Thank you.
Things we learned today:
If Rachel had a penis Keanu would not question a single word or action she made.
Similarly, if Rachel had a penis Lauren would have listened and not used veto.
Shush. A fact is a fact even if you don’t like it.
The house has been split almost along skin tone lines for weeks. There has been a majority black alliance for weeks. It was only a matter of time before the white houseguests attempted to form an alliance. I’m not going to say one is good and one is bad when to be honest, the house has largely ghettoized itself for weeks. They have been predominantly segregating themselves and i’m not pointing fingers at why or who. It just is and i’m not going to play point the finger today.
That does not mean i was pleased by Kelley’s Rachel feared the optics comment any more than I liked it when Will said HOH’s SHOULD fear the optics. My take: are you working with the HOH? No? You are fair game as a target. Although this season it seems to be are you working with the HOH? Yes and or NO… you are fair game as a target. More strategic dumbfuqery that has me pissy and moody.
My tolerance level for stupid has been surpassed. Next bonehead to bonehead gets a nope. Not kidding. Paste eaters with crayons up their nose would be more strategic than this season’s houseguests.
And seriously… screw the mfing M&Ms…. gee it’s week 6, lets plan who will be HOH on week 9 and who they will nominate…. micromanaging control freak stupidity when the entire object is adaptation to the unknown IS the game. Gee. Don’t make a studychart using M&Ms to remember the comps and events and days… nooooooo let’s use them like chocolate crystal balls to nail down future events we have no control over. Dumbass stupid.
What we REALLY learned: not ONE of these dumpsterfires deserves to be on jury. Most of them haven’t played big brother this season so who are we kidding?
What does your tinfoil hat say about the theory of prod. felt the pressure of Rylie hate out here, so told Rachel to nom him?
Or do you think it just felt more like a natural happening?
I guess if you think about it, same scenarios for Lauren using it. Either pushed by prod. or just naturally used it.
I feel productions influence. I cant say with any certainty how much Lauren and Rachel were told. My guess by their behavior the last 24 hours is they know nothing of what people think of Riley outside the house.
I don’t know.
Does it FEEEL like the week Leah won veto, decided after a marathon overnight discussion with Quinn NOT to use it, got a long d/r call right before veto ceremony, and came out crying and red faced and used the veto to save Angela?
Is there any big… i dunno… deal between cbs or paramount and another company that would not want scandal? Remember the cbs / viacom merger when i ask this.
TBH… Lauren imo was always going to save Vince. She just didn’t know HOW to do it without pissing off ALL of her allies by knowingly endangering them. Come on. Like Vince was going to stay on the block while his bobblehead had the veto. Naaah.
Rachel though…
Rachel notes d/r calls. We KNOW this. Rachel knows how things work. She was livid when she went to the d/r. She came out of the d/r like she’d been pumped full of mood stablizers. THAT was my biggest note of that night… wtf is wrong with Rachel? She was close to Rachel of old tirade… goes to d/r… comes out soft voiced.
If anyone had a d/r moment where they met with prodo…. it was Rachel.
Is it possible d/r pushed Lauren through suggestion? Yes. Is it possible Rachel went into d/r and met with prodo and had a disagreement that only a stuntcast can get away with having with prodo? Also yes.
Yeah, it seems there’s been a few mood stabilizer moments for Rachel, mainly in the last few weeks. I also think she just knows this cast is ridiculous, and is mentally depleted and disappointed in their gameplay.
Wow! Quit sugarcoating your opinions & tell us what you really think! I must confess, as one who tends to be opinionated & overly dramatic, this particular post of yours caught me a little by surprise. Not due to your honesty. Your honesty, your perceptivity & your humor are 3 major reasons why your posts are the most sought-after on this site. It was your bluntness that surprised me. Ever since I became addicted to your posts, I’ve aspired to write more like you & less like me. You’re much better at softening your blows by surrounding them with ample doses of your humor. As Mary Poppins said: “Just a teaspoon of sugar helps the medicine go down.” Your sugar is your humor & our medicine is your bare bones honesty. While I almost always laugh while reading your posts, mine tend to come across as deadly serious, humorless & sanctimonious. Even though I’m 73, I still wanna be like you when I grow up(if I ever do!). This post didn’t strike me as funny at all. It seemed as though you were about to nope the entire cast & that’s not like you. You always reserve your nopes for the nopable. This is certainly not a good cast, but, IMHO only a few of them are nopable. Some are not Rhodes scholars. Some are wishy-washy. Some are flip-floppers. Some are indecisive. Some are arrogant. Some are fake. Some are mean. And some are ignorant. But, this post struck me as more than your usual frustration & disappointment with this cast. It seemed angry, exasperated and, dare I say, bitter. I probably just read it wrong. I’m sure if I could play the audio book version with you reading your own words aloud, your tone of voice would clear up my misperception of your intention. Sorry if I totally misunderstood you this time. I’m sure the fault is mine, for being unable to read between the lines. I’ve never been very good at that. Again, my apologies for misconstruing your meaning this time. I actually began this reply by asking if you were feeling ok, but then quickly restarted it differently, as the 1st attempt to start struck me as presumptuous. Again, my apologies if I completely misunderstood your meaning.
There has always been a week 5 or week 6 period that lasts a few days where I get very moody. Every Season. It happens when I look at the season as a whole for a second, and the overall current events and project in my mind what will transpire as a season whole. It’s the moment where I question… If i drank would I need to be drunk for this? I start to ask if I’m enjoying the season.
When that moment hits, for a little while my posts DO seem more angry.
It doesn’t last.
“More strategic dumbfuqery that has me pissy and moody.” Are you my first wife?
The racial alliance thing has been done before, not surprised it happens again. But, it’s not much different from the state of our government. According to some, half the country is racist so why would BB be any different.
So far, my favorite is the dumb as a brick Lauren. (I know, don’t insult the bricks!) Can’t make up her mind, is easily swayed, but at least she “seems” to be trying to play the game, just not very well.
I’m not American and I don’t comment on American politics because I’ve learned that the opinions of an outsider about History, Race and Gender and Politics are dismissed out of hand.
Anyone that wants my opinion on American History, Racial divide, Gender equality and Political Theory are NOT going to get it here.
Simon and Dawg, I have an idea for some offseason content: Who are the dumbest casts collectively in BB history? This one is up there, but does it compete with BB14 (minus the returners)? 15? 19? Who am I missing? Conversely, which seasons were the smartest/most competitive as a whole? You could also probably generate a lot of traffic by ranking the best (and worst) houseguests of all time, compiling the best possible cast based on previous members, etc. HMU, I have a lot of ideas!
Excellent suggestion!
IMHO, when prodo came up with this cast they HAD to be grasping at straws here trying to keep viewers, because truthfully,we’re all sick of production moving the chess-pieces/players. Think about it. They added not one, but TWO socially inept “gamers,” admit it, they’re sad, sick, and wrong in any social situation, a princess, an artsy-wanna find herself on live TV, a couple of jocks who’ve been told their entire lives that they are “God’s gift” to the world, a rodeo guy that’s probably been kicked in the head a few times more than any NFL player, a couple of girls who think TV will boost their social media platforms – because SO many former players have become successful in Hollywood and social media (side eye), the typical “princess” (shower girl)
a couple of known “mean girl mentalities,” then, add a weenie of a 30-something- “man” who is unemployed and still dresses like a middle schooler (no surprise there’s no job there), a veteran player still wanting to believe she’s “still got it,” and a veteran for good measure…we have this cast of no one going no where.
I rarely watch anymore, but appreciate this site, as it’s a fun connection for my friends and I -who used to watch together, when wall comps, OTEV, AND Pressure Cookers were actually REAL COMPS of ENDURANCE, and the like were actually worth tuning in to watch. PLUS, we have lost the ART OF THE BACKDOOR!
Someone wrote something like this a few posts back that CBS is trying to shed their “old white dude” viewer personae to include the younger and more diverse audience. Well, let me tell you, in these past 27 seasons, this one is NOT EVEN CLOSE to gaining any viewers, NOR are they keeping the ones they used to have. There is too much prodo mismanagement, D/R “guiding” and this did of a cast, UGH. THEN, they doubled-down and added a commentary show on Friday nights?! I just can’t anymore! I am a middle-aged Black/White/Hispanic woman and…we’ll, you know, I’ve already taken enough of your time if you’re still reading! Simon, Dawgs, MANY THANKS! Autre Nom, always appreciate your willingness to put it all out there!
They all thought the replacement nominee was going to be Keanu. I am glad Rachel is trying to coach Keanu and is the only one who is honest with him. I understand that he is trying to form relationships in that house, it can’t be easy when nobody likes you. The way the houseguests talk about him is just mean. Rylie is a stalker and I wouldn’t care if any of the 3 on the block were gone. I personally hate when a previous houseguest is placed in the game, but I honestly like Keanu and I am glad he has Rachel (and I am not a fan, she had her “win” handed to her).
It looks like they’re rigging a second win for her, imo. I think they purposely cast stupid people so Rachel could easily win.
Based on the way things are looking for her right now, it’s quite possible Rachel may not even make jury this season.
Of course that depends on who wins HOH the next two weeks, because that’s all she has to last in order to make jury. But with these nimrods nominating their own allies half the time, it’s hard to know who any of them may target.
Oh man I hope Keanu wins HOH on Thursday
You & me both!
yes we need it.
People want Keaun to win HOH But he doesn’t why
Has the rest of the cast not noticed how Rylie treats Katherine and are not bothered by it, or does his bad behavior only occur when other people are not around but is clocked by the live feeders.
My guess is that if Prodo wants him out they will make sure he doesn’t win the blockbuster by coaching either Morgan or Mickey, whichever they like better for the show. Then hey will order a sufficient number of house guests to vote him out.
I had this same thought this morning. Does the house truly not see how he is? How is he hiding it?
Or do they see it and just not care? Do they chalk it up to part of the game stress?
So much just doesn’t quite add up here. But he needs to leave regardless.
I mean, clearly when he shoves his hand up her crotch or harasses her to sleep with him, they are probably in private. But when he berates her and belittles her, is there no one around?
Doesn’t do it when others are around. And there’s only a few players who would actually probably do something/talk to him or prod. if so. (Keep in mind I was talking about players. So Rylie does it only with Kat, but not really, since he’s also doing it in front of feed watchers and prod. themselves)
They need to get him or her before jury, so they are not together!!
They say her family contacted production about how Ryle was treating Katherine so hopefully they are having him get voted out.
I think a few are starting to feel it finally. For so long they just thought that they were “cute”, the next Brenchel. Even Rachel thought it. I noticed that Ava may be uncomfortable with them but they are allies so doesn’t share with anyone. I have a feeling that if Rachel, Morgan, or Mickey saw what was going on when no one was around, there would be a big explosion. None of them come across as someone who would tolerate that.
Keanu has fully gone back to Unexpendables Brodown Keanu. You know, the fake alliance of men… where Keanu thought he was the Svengali mastermind of the season.
Ashley and Will are hard pressed about the Mickey on the block decision. Will is spilling Ava’s tea to Ashley. We now definitely know that Will is more team Ashley than his final 2 with Ava.
Riley has decided he is open to talking game now. Day… it’s half way point of the season, and numbnuts has decided okay… we can play big brother now.
That’s all I’ve got right now. I’m STILL just coffeeing after being up all night painting and i’m working on 2 hours sleep for the second day in a row. I’m expecting to be cantankerous. Fair Warning.
Will and Ashley.
They want to make a new alliance.
Will Ashley Rachel Vince Morgan.
They want to exclude Ava because of her beef with Vince and Morgan’s beef with her. They know that the Morgan and Ava beef comes from Mickey spilling between Morgan and Ava.
Okay…. so the alliance Ashley has been pushing for days.
Problem? Vince in an alliance with Rachel?
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again: Ashley’s game IS Mickey’s game in the sense that both want everyone to do what is best for Ashley or Mickey’s game over their own. Methods different, tone different, but the strategic goal is always the same.
Only Ashley has Will constantly playinig block for Ashley.
Alliance formation meeting.
Morgan, Ashley, Rachel, Will, Vince.
They are telling Vince all of Mickey’s sins but saying Riley has to go.
They are telling Vince to jump in on the bottom of an alliance that was already forming without him (meaning he was already bottom last in first out).
NOW Will wants to pull in Ava as a member even though the alliance is forming with Vince…
Vince is not warning Rachel to NOT go to Kelley.
This alliance would put Vince into the exact middle because he is in an alliance with the other half from last night.
Vince plays coward game so I don’t know. Vince knows Rachel wanted him to stay on the block and he’s demonized her for 5 weeks.
If this alliance actually HAPPENS what I am seeing is this is a storyline shift from prodo to the pets.
THIS alliance DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. So if it happens for real it’s the first OVERT indication of Grod Grodding just to Grod.
Sorry. That’s the truth.
What Vince SHOULD see, is oh they want to weaken me… if Vince acts in Vince defensive posture cowardly mode.
Why I roll my eyes.
I’ve read in the past how Vince is like Eeyore.
Stop that.
Eeyore had a valid reason…. he had a nail jammed in his ass.
vince is just a whiner and it’s fricken ridic.
Are any of the houseguests worthy of being America’s Favorite Player? If he survives, I’m liking Keanu more and more. However, maybe it’s too early to be thinking about AFP.