“Is there any chance Tay goes?” .. “Lala, should I put up Tay”?

Quick spoilers

Head of household
LaTrice
Nominees
Chuk, Haley, Barrett
POV players
Kamu, Chuk, Haley, LaTrice, Barrett, Dee
POV winner
Kamu
Veto ceremony
Pending
Have-nots
Drew, Chuk, Haley, Barrett

Big Brother 28 spoilers: three houseguests spent the morning on the block sweating a veto. Dee and Devens spent it in the bathroom, laughing.

They have something nobody else in the house knows about, and the whole first conversation is the two of them turning it over like a new toy. Devens: “Having that in our back pocket is crazy. I mean, that’s an immunity idol.” Dee: “It’s like the biggest thing in this game. We have so much power.” They work out the rule for using it – if either of them gets backdoored, the person they’d put up in return is “the bestie of whoever put us up” – and then Devens follows that thought where it goes. Their bestie is Tay. Would Tay actually go home?

Dee’s version is better. She doesn’t want to just use it – she wants to stand there and take her time, asking the room out loud who she should name, watching people scramble to give up secrets to avoid being the answer. “This is so fun,” she says. Twice.

Eight minutes later it stops being funny. Dee, flat: “Lala and Taylor gotta f—ing go.” Devens: “100%.” With Dee already writing Haley off — “since Haley’s leaving, that was the common enemy” — the two of them go looking for the next one and land on the current HOH and her closest ally, the same two people Lala has spent the week trying to build a five with. Chuk survives the conversation for a specific reason: “he’ll do whatever we want.” And Devens closes with a plan to start feeding the house wrong dates and random names ahead of the next memory comp, before catching himself: “obviously, that’s not good jury management.”

10:00 am Houseguests waking up

10:05 am Mallory and Melody Moments

11:18 AM – Dee and Devens (Main Bathroom)

The conversation has already started. They have something nobody else in the house knows about — a secret veto that names its own replacement nominee — and the whole first conversation is the two of them turning it over like a new toy. 

Dee: “Unless they decide to backdoor one of us. That would be crazy.”
Devens: “Yeah, exactly. In that case, we play it.”
Dee: “But either way -“
Devens: “I can’t wait for that moment.”
Dee: “Me too, Devens. And if that moment does happen, take your time with it, please. Be like, who wants to give back more?”
Devens: “You’re on the block and I’m just sitting here doing nothing. And you’re just looking at me, looking at me, and I’m just sitting there.”

(He’s joking about not using it if Dee is on the block.)

Dee: “You’re so annoying.”
Devens: “It’s going to be awesome.”

(They high five.)

Dee: “Yeah, I can’t wait for you to knock me off. No, I don’t care about me. I’d rather you, in any scenario.”
Devens: “You know I’m kidding. I would save you.”
Dee: “I know, but I wouldn’t.”
Devens: “That’s the exact reason we got to keep it between us. I don’t want the other people going, Devens, Devens.”
Dee: “No, they won’t.”

“Having that in our back pocket is crazy. I mean, that’s an immunity idol.”

— Devens

Devens: “Having that in our back pocket is crazy.”
Dee: “Huh?”
Devens: “Having that in our back pocket is crazy. I mean, that’s an immunity idol.”
Dee: “Helps two people.”
Dee: “It’s like the biggest thing in this game. We have so much power.”

Devens: “Brainstorm, just in case we’re backdoored – and every week, who would be the best person to put up?”
Dee: “The bestie of whoever put us up.”
Devens: “That’s what I keep thinking. Also, it’s like – if we put up our bestie, Tay, is there any chance Tay goes? You know what I mean?”
Dee: “Yeah.”

Dee: “What I would love to do is brainstorm in that moment, too. Sit there and be like, Lala, should I put up Tay? Hey, what do you want to say? And get everybody to spill secrets.”
Devens: “I love that.”
Dee: “And because in that moment, anybody could get backdoored.”
Devens: “Dude, I love that.”
Dee: “But don’t pick. Hey, Tay, what are you going to do? This person, this person.”
Devens: “I love that.”

Dee: “This is so fun.”
Dee: “This is so fun.”

(Yeah, thanks Grod)

11:26 AM – Dee and Devens (Main Bathroom)

Dee: “Barrett knows everything, but he’s cool with us.”
Devens: “100%.”
Dee: “Lala and Taylor gotta f—ing go.”
Devens: “100%.”
Dee: “Why would they do that? Get the hell out of here. It’s so dumb.”
Devens: “It’s crazy.”

“I’m gonna intentionally start giving them just wrong dates. I’m just saying random names. I’m gonna sabotage everybody.”

— Devens

Devens: “Also, I’m gonna intentionally start giving them just wrong dates. I’m just saying random names. I’m gonna sabotage everybody. I don’t even care if it gets said. Obviously, that’s not good jury management.”
Dee: “I know, I know. I mean, who else knows dates? Well, Haley knows dates. And she’s been, obviously, with Chuk. But I feel like Chuk would be good. Chuk is really great to stay in the game. Think about it.”
Devens: “Especially if Haley goes. Everyone’s like, get rid of Chuk next week. It’s like, why would I get rid of Chuk this week? He’ll do whatever we want.”
Dee: “And he’s not gonna win today.”

Devens: “And all this mean stuff – I’m over it. We don’t have to team up on Haley.”
Dee: “I know. I agree.”
Devens: “Haley’s great.”
Dee: “I told Angela last night I felt a little bad. But they’re doing that because they feel they have the power.”
Devens: “Exactly. It’s sick. It’s sick.”

Devens: “And Angela, dude. The way she blew up yesterday, it’s like – could you be more guilty?”
Dee: “Yeah.”
Devens: “You had no reason to blow up like that.”
Dee: “But it was great. I loved it.”
Devens: “Oh, I loved every second of it. The crazy parts.”

Devens: “I know everything has been happening. Just keep stoking the flames. But not like the personal attacks.”
Dee: “Yeah. Now we have to shift a little bit.”
Devens: “Okay.”
Dee: “Because since Haley’s leaving, that was the common enemy.”
Devens: “Right.”
Dee: “And we need to figure out who else. You know what I’m saying?”
Devens: “Yeah.”

Dee: “But dude, everything has been great.”
Devens: “We got time to take it all in.”
Dee: “It’s so fun.”
Devens: “It’s crazy.”
Dee: “What a blessing.”
Devens: “I’m so happy you’re here.”

They move on to talking about food.

Dee: “My favorite ribs in Texas. Roadhouse. They just fall right off the bone, dude. I’ll say that. It’s crazy.”

Tldr

Kamu has the veto. Chuk is on the block, and if the noms stay the way they are he’s fighting for his life in Thursday’s BB Blockbuster. They talked for half an hour in the backyard and Kamu never once said he’d use it.

His reason is a grudge with a receipt: during Haley’s HOH, Kamu pushed to nominate Mallory instead of Lyric, and Haley told him no — “only one person can win this game.” She protected her own game over the alliance then. Now he has the power and he’s saying the same sentence back.

Chuk spends the whole conversation telling him he understands, that he trusts him, that he loves him. Then, on his own odds of surviving the vote: “I feel good about votes. People are like, Chuk, you’re good.” Beat. “But people also told Lyric that.”

12:26 PM – Kamu and Chuk (Backyard)

Kamu: “I love this corner.”
Chuk: “Dude, you, Devens, and everyone loves this corner.”
Kamu: “It’s like a spot.”
Chuk: “It is a nice little spot, because for some reason, when people are over here, they just kind of chill.”
Kamu: “It’s right in the shade, bro. It’s like one of the only spots in the backyard that I think is shaded the whole time.”
Chuk: “Oh, from morning to f—ing night, dude. When I first got in this house, I was like, I can sleep outside. I can sleep outside all night. But only because we’re have-nots. I was like, well, I’d rather sleep outside.”

Kamu: “How’s that going, dude? How are you feeling? How’s the body?”
Chuk: “Be honest. Be honest. It’s shit. It’s easy. Sometimes, you know, when people are near you, you’ll be like, oh, f—, I’m hungry. I’m actually fine. I’m chilling.”
Chuk: “I think the second go-around, we’re a little bit more comfy, too. They’re giving us more. We have comforters. The blue blanket, it honestly is so chill to where it’s like nothing, honestly.”
Kamu: “Dude, it’s probably way easier than the first time.”
Chuk: “The first time, the mm-mm-mm.”
Chuk: “Didn’t eat much in there, dude, so I think that’s why it was harder. But other than that, bro, I don’t even think about it. I just think about the game.”
Kamu: “Use it as a week to lean out. Get cut, and then you start to carve back up again next week.”
Kamu: “It does kind of feel like a Monday.”
Kamu: “Bro, after today, you’re already halfway. Then you got Monday, Tuesday. Bro, you’re eating Wednesday night.”

Chuk: “Man, dude, how are you feeling? What’s tomorrow? Is there anything tomorrow?”
Kamu: “Tomorrow’s Monday. What is Monday?”
Chuk: “It’s tomorrow. Veto Day.”
Kamu: “And then there’s nothing Tuesday, Wednesday.”
Chuk: “How are you feeling about that? Where’s your head at? How’s your convos been with people? Because I had a convo with Taylor.”
Kamu: “What’d she say?”
Chuk: “Last night, she was like, Chuk, you need to separate yourself. She’s like, Chuk, people in the house love you. They like you. You’re not the target. Trust me when Lala tells you that you’re not the target. She was like, you need to watch out for your friend. And I’m like, what are you trying to tell me?”
Chuk: “It was just a convo where Taylor was just telling me, essentially, you need to separate, because people like you and people want you in here.”
Chuk: “Association is everything. Perception is everything. We know this. We’ve done this.”
Chuk: “But it’s just interesting, because people still have their duos that people are around in the house. Sometimes that person is going through a lot, and then people are like, who are they with all the time?”
Chuk: “But I wasn’t a fan of that convo of her saying that.”

Chuk: “Also, Lala mentioning, you’re on a sinking ship. I’m like, it was the f—ing naval ship. You don’t understand what’s been going on these past four weeks. It was the f—ing naval ship.”
Chuk: “Once you’re not HOH, you truly are the sinking ship.”

Chuk: “You don’t know shit in this house, honestly. You never know if people want to take out a strong player when they can’t do it. You truly don’t know.”
Chuk: “If it’s me and Barrett up there, or me and Haley, I don’t know if the house would save me. But at the same time, I feel like I have a decent relationship with everyone.”
Chuk: “And my targets know who they are. I’ve always been so honest with that. My two targets know who they are.”
Kamu: “The two?”
Chuk: “Yeah. We were going back and forth during the veto, right? So me and Mallory, we kind of have that basis of knowing that. That’s already out in the open.”
Chuk: “My targets know who they are, so I think the house knows that I’m not all over the place just shooting for – that’s not how my game is.”

Chuk: “You do know, if you don’t use it on her, you do have potential for her going home.”
Kamu: “Say that again?”
Chuk: “If you don’t use it on Haley, there’s potential for her going home.”
Kamu: “I know. I know, dude. It’s heavy. It’s a lot.”
Chuk: “You have to analyze who do you think is a stronger game player, and it’s really all of us. But also I know you mentioned Devens and Dee, so you truly need to analyze if – and I don’t even know if it would be them. That’s the thing, I don’t think it would be. But she threatened you, and that threat got you.”
Kamu: “Well, yeah, I mean, of course. It’s a threat. Because whoever she would put up would be somebody that I’m working with, you know? So it’s like, dude, it’s a hard position, because I’m working with all of you guys.”

Chuk: “Dude, I know you’re in a peculiar situation right now.”
Chuk: “You not using it on me definitely is going to show a lot. You know this, right? Transparency.”
Chuk: “You’re not using it on me or her. I have to be so honest with you. I love you, dude. It’s definitely going to show a lot. F— all the outside shit that I truly don’t care about, what people on the outside truly think about. But on the inside, it’s definitely going to show a lot.”
Kamu: “Very much so. If I use it, it shows a lot, because now somebody else that I’m working with is going to be put up as a replacement because of me. And if I don’t use it, then it’s like I’m going to upset you and Haley because I’m not using it.”
Chuk: “You won’t upset me, because it’s a game.”
Kamu: “Yeah, but I’m just saying, no matter what happens here, whether it’s used or it’s not used, people are going to be upset. Which is why this is such a difficult -“
Chuk: “It’s a game.”
Kamu: “Regardless of what you do.”

Chuk: “It’s a tough position, brother. It’s such a tough position, bro. It’s a lot. Talk to people. Understand what you want the following weeks to look like.”
Chuk: “And there truly is a world where we both come back, right? Say she wins the Blockbuster, and she’s a badass competitor.”
Chuk: “Say she wins the Blockbuster, and it’s me and Barrett. Where do you think the house will go?”
Kamu: “I think there’s a world – let’s say she wins, because dude, you are very well liked in the house. So there is a world where you get the votes. But I know that Barrett is also -“
Chuk: “Well liked as well. So it’s tough.”
Chuk: “It’s two people who are well liked. But where he differs is – we’re both liked, but I think with me, the difference is whoever’s working with me knows they’re not gonna ever be on the block. They’re never ever gonna be on the block.”
Kamu: “But do you think that the people who are working with Barrett don’t think the same thing?”
Chuk: “I don’t think he talks game enough with enough people for them to have that comfort. And we know that, because everyone in our alliance says the same thing – that he just doesn’t talk game enough with enough people for them to have that comfort, knowing that he’s going to go out there, win the HOH, and they’re never going to see the block.”
Chuk: “And whenever it’s time for people to put him up again, is anyone who’s with him going to be guilty by association? You have Mallory and Bear, who are already close. If Mallory goes up there, they’re going to throw him up there just by association.”

Kamu: “Yeah, that is a tricky one, because Haley could absolutely win the Blockbuster, and then you could absolutely win the votes, and now everybody stays in. And that was Haley’s whole plan in the beginning.”
Chuk: “I know I have Taylor. I know I have Yash. Good convo with Dee. I feel like I have Dee. Me and Angela had an amazing convo up on the terrace after.”
Kamu: “You and who?”
Chuk: “Me and Angela. Oh, dude, we’re so back. Me and her, it runs a little bit more than the game. I know I have Angela.”

Chuk: “Where would you vote?”
Kamu: “Save you.”
Chuk: “The real one.”
Kamu: “Real one.”
Chuk: “I feel like I’d have Devens. I think you need six. And you have how many? Taylor. Yash. Dee. Angela. You. And then Devens.”
Kamu: “Devens, that one might be a little bit tricky.”
Chuk: “Yes. He’s close. He’s so close to Barrett, I know. That’s where it’s gonna be interesting to see -“
Kamu: “What about Drew?”
Chuk: “Who?”
Kamu: “Drew.”
Chuk: “Yeah, I forgot about Drew. So I need to have more convos with him to see where he would go if it’s me and Barrett sitting up there.”

Kamu: “Because the way that I see it, man, when I play out the different options – especially because I don’t know for sure who she would put up if I were to use the veto. Because who she would put up would change everything.”
Kamu: “But if I look at how things are right now, initially that was Haley’s plan. Haley’s plan was to keep noms the same.”
Chuk: “So her thing was to keep noms the same to keep you safe.”
Kamu: “Yeah, mm-hm.”
Chuk: “So, dude, that’d be f—ed up. Truly, I have to tell you. Like, that’d be really f—ed up. And I love you, and I have loyalty to you, but that’d be f—ed up for someone to keep you safe while they’re on the block, and think about you while they’re on the f—ing block. But this is a game. You’re going to play your game. We respect your game.”
Kamu: “No, I know, but you have to also understand, too, that if she actually did win the power of veto – would she? It’s one thing to say it, it’s another thing to actually do it.”
Chuk: “How do you feel? In this game it truly goes off feel, right? Does your gut feel that she would have?”
Kamu: “Dude, you have to remember, I just got burned at the last live show, bro. So people tell me one thing and they do something else.”

Kamu: “Is it really f—ed up for me to be like, you know what, Haley, what she’s saying – I don’t know if she would actually do it or not. And I love Haley, but I also know that if she had the veto, there’s a very, very good chance that she would use it. It would be kind of dumb for her not to use it.”
Chuk: “Based off how her weeks have been going.”
Kamu: “Right. I hear you. Especially after what happened yesterday with the blow-up upstairs in the gym. Who’s to say that if she won the veto, she wouldn’t actually use it?”
Kamu: “If she won the veto, it would be extremely tempting for her to use it. And to be honest with you, I would expect her to use it, because I wouldn’t expect her to throw her game out for anybody, like myself or anybody else. I know what that’s like.”
Kamu: “So it’s like, dude, I was told one thing on Thursday – hey, this is how the house is voting.”
Chuk: “Thursday f—ing ruined so much shit.”
Kamu: “And then it flipped on me. So why would I think that Haley is being 100%? And maybe she is, but I don’t know that. So I can’t be pressured into using the veto because somebody made a promise to me, when people have made promises to me before and then lied.”

Chuk: “As long as you know your trio are the three people you started the alliance with. As long as you feel those people have always been truthful and honest with you, and truly had those conversations for you when you were HOH – whoever was HOH in our little alliance – truly go off that. I can’t tell you what to do.”
Kamu: “No, I know, but you have to remember, too, bro, I did all the same stuff. I put myself out there, bro, even with the tea party.”
Chuk: “Dude, still legendary.”
Kamu: “I talked to Jason, and nobody else said anything except for me. I was up there, dude. I knew that Jason had conversations with you. He told you, hey, if you keep me here, I’ll go after the Icons. But you didn’t say anything during the tea party. But I wasn’t going to throw you out, right? But I put myself out there, and I did that for all of us.”
Kamu: “And then also, too, dude, when Jason was out there and he’s beating the pot right around Haley’s ears, going from this side to this side – who spoke up? I spoke up.”

“Nobody in this house can come to me and say, hey, bro, if you don’t use the veto, that’s f—ed up. I’ve already put myself out there for people.”

— Kamu, to the nominee sitting next to him

Kamu: “So nobody in this house can come to me and say, hey, bro, if you don’t use the veto, that’s f—ed up. Dude, no. I’ve already put myself out there for people. Everybody in this alliance, I’ve already put myself out there for all of them. So nobody can say, hey bro, if you don’t do this, you’re not pulling your weight around the alliance. Bro, I’ve pulled my weight for the alliance.”
Kamu: “And then I was the one that got iced out of the vote on Thursday. So for me, dude, it’s like I have to think about what’s best for my game. I got to try to figure out who I can trust and who I can’t trust, because I’ve already proven that I ride for the people that ride with me. And I was the one that was iced out.”
Kamu: “And dude, I love you. I love you. And I hate that. Real quick – I love you, I love Haley, and I know that Haley’s like, hey, if I won the veto, I’d keep noms the same so that you don’t go up.”
Kamu: “How do I know that?”
Chuk: “I know, I know.”
Chuk: “And I know that that was something that was on your mind, in terms of how do you know that someone would keep noms the same? And truthfully, I don’t even know either, because everyone’s game is different, to where they’re like, hey, I also need to protect myself. And if you won the veto, what would you have done?”
Kamu: “Be honest with me, you would use it on yourself. 100%, you would use it on yourself. And if you used it on yourself, I would go up as the replacement. So we have to understand, it is what it is.”

Chuk: “Dude, you’re my guy. You gotta understand, bro, you’re my guy, dude. Especially when I saw how you operated when you were on HOH – you were just like me, in regards to anybody who shows an inkling of targeting someone in your alliance is number one priority. And I loved how you went about HOH, because that’s exactly how I would. I wouldn’t care about no other friendships. This person has mentioned someone in my alliance, we need to make sure we potentially get them out the house.”
Chuk: “And also the way you handled the tea party. You knew Jason had told me that, right? But you still were like, Chuk, don’t say anything during the tea party. Because you don’t want the house to know.”
Kamu: “Of course, because I don’t want to put a target on you.”
Chuk: “I love that. And I respect that so much.”

Kamu: “In the HOH room, when Haley was HOH last week, I said, hey, what if we put up Mallory instead of Lyric? And you were in the room.”
Chuk: “Oh, f—. I remember that. I love that. What did Haley say?”
Kamu: “Haley said only one person can win this game. And putting up Mallory would help her. It would be bad for my game. And I said, yeah, but Mallory’s coming after us. Mallory’s coming after people in our alliance. And she goes, okay, but only one person can win. And I’m cool with Mallory.”
Chuk: “You know, that convo, I remember that, because me and you were a team. We knew if Mallory wins HOH, she’s putting me and you up. Well, I know she’s putting me up. So I remember that convo, because we were adamant – hey, why wouldn’t you put Mallory up? Because Mallory has already voiced that she’s going to put all of us up, even though Haley gave her that week of saying, hey, you’re going to be safe.”
Chuk: “I don’t think Mallory gave a damn. I think truly, even if she wins HOH, she’s still going to gun for all three.”

Chuk: “So see, that was, I think, the first fault. Do you feel like that’s where you’re like, okay, if we’re already looking out for ourselves so early, what’s not to say you wouldn’t use the veto on me?”
Kamu: “No, no, dude, no. What I’m saying is this. Right now, it’s easy to be like, bro, if you don’t use the veto, that’s messed up.”
Chuk: “I’m gonna stop you there.”
Kamu: “Easily, words can be construed anyway. I want to apologize -“
Chuk: “No, no, no. I love you.”
Kamu: “I want to apologize if that feels a certain way.”
Kamu: “All I’m saying is, dude, I’ve done everything for you.”
Chuk: “You have.”
Kamu: “Dude, I’ve done everything. So when we were here, I said it all. Nobody else said anything, which is fine, because I don’t want anyone to have a target on my back.”
Kamu: “Upstairs, HOH room, last week, I said, hey, we gotta protect our alliance. We have to. We should put up Mallory. And do you feel like I’ve always been on board in regards to that? So I was like, we should put up Mallory instead of Lyric.”
Kamu: “Haley got mad at me, bro. Like, Haley got mad at me. She got upset with me. She’s like, no. I said, look, I even had to go back on my word with Lyric because it was best for our alliance. And she goes, maybe you went back on your word, and that’s how you want to play? She’s like, I’m not going to go back on my word.”
Chuk: “And I think I was in the same room, too, where I’m like, in this game, sometimes you have to do that to take the alliance.”
Kamu: “She said, Mallory? She’s like, Mallory? I’m good with Mallory. Even though Mallory is going after the alliance, she’s like, there can only be one winner.”
Kamu: “And so for me, I was like, okay, well, if there can only be one winner, then she has to put herself before she puts me in the alliance. So dude, it’s one of those things where she’s okay with doing what’s best for her game. The whole time, bro, I’ve been playing for the alliance.”

Chuk: “This is my thing. What I hate about what’s been happening is – why week four, week five, is everyone so on this, like, not looking out for the alliance as a whole? This happened last week. When we had power.”
Chuk: “And so I remember that was one of the first times where I was like, this is not smart gameplay – not putting Mallory up and looking out for your game and voicing that to us. But I was the only one that said it, bro. You didn’t say it. I was the only one that said it. Wasn’t I?”
Chuk: “Wait, no, no, no. We got to take ourselves all the way back there. Didn’t I voice both options? I was like, for her, it is your HOH, so you’re going to do what you’re going to want to do. But then I also said, if Mallory goes up as HOH – all three of you guys.”
Kamu: “I remember I was kind of surprised, because I know that you were close with Lyric. And so when I started to speak out in favor of Lyric – you played right in the middle. You didn’t pick a side.”
Chuk: “I can’t have y’all going back and forth. That’s where I wanted to make sure, because you know how things can get.”
Kamu: “Saw how things got up there. So when we were upstairs, you played right in the middle, where you’re like, hey, I understand what Kamu’s saying. And I understand what Haley’s saying.”
Chuk: “But I needed to put in her head that you do know that your decision is going to leave the boys in your alliance feeling uneasy, because she’s going to put all of us up there. But you want to also put Lyric. It’s your HOH. You’re going to make those decisions. But I had to make sure.”
Chuk: “And dude, we had so many convos. We talk all the f—ing time. She knows how much I reiterate that if Mallory or Melody wins HOH, I am f—ing going up. That’s without a doubt. They know that, I know that. It’s just clear as day, right? And so I want you to know there’s many convos that are also being had that you’re not in there, right?”

Kamu: “But doesn’t that make it even worse then? If she knows that if Mallory wins, you go up, or I go up, or Dee and Devens go up – I don’t know why that was a chance she should take.”
Kamu: “So for me, you have to remember, I have the veto right now. And she’s saying if she won, she wouldn’t use it. How am I supposed to believe that, when literally a few days ago she was like, no, no, I’m not gonna put up Mallory even though Mallory would attack you guys, because only one person can win and this is better for my game?”
Kamu: “So dude, I have to think about all of these conversations. Bro, it’s not an easy decision at all. But I have to take all the information, dude.”
Chuk: “Whatever you do, again, I trust your decisions. I trust your loyalty. I feel your loyalty. It’s a big thing for me.”
Kamu: “I’ve shown it, bro. I’ve shown it.”
Chuk: “Dude, you’ve shown it countless times. You’ve shown it a lot, too, at that tea party, allowing people in your alliance to not have to speak up so they don’t put a target on your back. You took all those blows.”
Kamu: “I showed it when Jason was coming after her with the freaking teapot. I spoke up and said, Jason, don’t do that. That’s not cool. I stood up for her. I’ve shown my loyalty, bro, since then.”
Chuk: “And you don’t have to even voice it in terms of what you did, because I’ve seen it.”
Chuk: “And you bring up that great point. It brings an interesting rebuttal, because I’m like, okay. Yes, you do have a point right there in regards to her not putting up Mallory just to save their relationship, just so Mallory doesn’t put her up – at risk of our alliance being attacked.”
Kamu: “Exactly. What if she puts two of your guys up? Isn’t that even a bigger risk? And that’s what I said, right? And what was the response? There can only be one winner, this is better for my game. Well, dude, now I have veto, and I have to do what’s best for my game.”
Chuk: “Do what’s best for you.”

Chuk: “We have so many conversations that sometimes – okay, maybe this is why he won’t do this, because of that situation. I wasn’t even thinking of that. So for me, I was thinking, wait, why wouldn’t he use it? And then you just give me this situation. There’s so many conversations that could happen in this house that there’s no way you can remember all of them. So you bring up this conversation, I’m like, okay, he has a valid reason.”
Chuk: “She needs to win that Blockbuster. And I feel good about votes, just because I’ve had a lot of conversations with everyone, and they’re like, Chuk, you’re good.”
Chuk: “But people also told Lyric that.”

Kamu: “The way that I see it is, there is a world where all three of us are still here next week. And if I use the veto – and I’m not even saying that I’m not going to, I’m still weighing out the options.”
Chuk: “I said last night, we’re sleeping, and I know she’s crying, crying, crying right now. I said, dude, I’ve made peace with whatever he does. I trust you’re going to look at it from all angles. I trust you truly want to make sure your alliance is still intact and safe. So whatever you decide to do, dude.”
Chuk: “Especially me and her going against Big B – I trust that one of us is going to win that Blockbuster. And then it’s gonna be like, dude, I need you to rally the troops, brother. And I trust you do that, dude. I need you to rally the troops, man.”

Kamu: “One of the potential risks here is, if there’s a world where all three of us can be here next week with how things are right now, then that’s obviously the best case scenario. If there’s a world where Devens gets thrown up or Dee gets thrown up, then that changes the dynamic of everything. And now we could lose an alliance member.”
Kamu: “If you guys are both here next week, but we end up losing Devens or Dee, now we lose an alliance member – versus you guys being up there. She takes herself down. You have the votes. And now the whole alliance is still intact moving on next week.”
Chuk: “I know, I know.”
Kamu: “That’s a risk. It’s a big risk. It’s a risk. But it might be the safest risk with the highest reward.”
Chuk: “All of us are here. We’re all rocking and rolling.”
Kamu: “Trust me, bro, it’s a tough position to be in.”
Chuk: “I’m telling you right now, if we both come back and we’re all here, we pick up where we left off. We gotta get to HOH. We can never, ever leave. I think this week, we’ve seen what happens when you leave it to chance.”
Chuk: “Somebody went up there and was telling her, hey, you should put them up there because it’d be better. Because, man, she was so sad. But I’m happy you’re not on the block.”
Kamu: “Honestly, as bad as this sucks, it could be worse. There is a world where all of us are here next week.”

Chuk: “She left it to chance by not putting you up there. Me and Haley were talking about it. We said, there is a world where me and you come back and our alliance is back intact.”
Chuk: “Her not putting us all three up there lets me know she doesn’t know this game, right? Mallory would have put us all up there. But she’s like, I can’t take a risk. At least one of them is gonna go home. She left a small chance, and that’s a big chance. She f—ed up. And I’m so happy she did that. I said, rookie f—ing move.”
Chuk: “Because the way that I see it is like this. She left the chance by putting Barrett up there, and she thinks that she did a checkmate. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, just wait. And I don’t think she understands the dynamics of the house. Dude, we have troops who can rally to make sure we get the numbers. And so I feel really good.”
Chuk: “I think it would have been a little bit more uneasy if it was all three of us.”
Kamu: “Because we would have been looking at each other like someone is going to – and that’s why, bro, Barrett could not win the veto yesterday. That would have been worst-case scenario, bro.”
Chuk: “It was so eerie and silent when y’all two went on. Dude, you could just feel people like, f—‘s sake, dude.”
Chuk: “Wouldn’t want to choose anyone else to use it. You know that, truly. I hope you know and see, truly, just me and you, where my loyalty lies.”
Kamu: “Dude, I do.”
Chuk: “And I hope you never, ever second guess it.”
Chuk: “That was my girl. Well, not my girl, actually. I haven’t sang a country song since she’s been gone.”
Kamu: “Did you notice that? I’m so f—ing bored.”

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1:28 pm Mallory and Melody moments

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un autre nom

So let me get this right.
Devens plot week two was to expose and socially isolate Romeé He took glee in it.
Angela jumped in to add Jason to the shun list. She was proud of herself for it.
Kamu got the idea from Devens and Angela…and during the tea party pulled the same shunning routine on Jason.

Now… now they want people to show understanding and kindness.
one eyebrow arched and a sideye.
And the person they want to spare the isolation treatment is one of the people that has said more than once she wants to psychologically destroy her targets with social isolation.

This combination of things.
mkay. Now we know who Grod is trying to image protect in tandem if it was not clear before. mmhmm.
While i do not enjoy ANYONE shunned and isolated… THESE ASSHATS HAVE NO MORAL AUTHORITY TO CALL ON OTHERS TO FOREGO DOING WHAT THEY THEMSELVES ENJOYED DOING. It is complete bullshit.

Mooning

IMO… I thought Devens was straight with Rome and he was ok and honest back with Devens. Kamu, on the other hand, went out of his way to shame Jason, at the tea party, in order to cover being dishonest with him.. Angela thoughts about home is worry over family eating too much take out and lint in the drier. Typical Mom stuff. Not crazy person stuff.. So seems Angela is good at acting and way better than Devens or anyone at causing chaos.

un autre nom

Straight with him? Shook his hand for safety. Proceeded to tell everyone in the house Rome sold you out for just those 2 people. What was the effect of that?
His stated goal with Angela then Dee was to turn the entire house against Rome so that he would not be able to socially maintain his safety. He jumped around excited about the notion of turning the entire house against Rome. Literally jumped and beamed and i think he also clapped.
That was intent. Does that mean the house will go ‘oh game wise screw off, want to play cornhole?’ Nah. He was aware that his plot involved a social grenade.
He is, in many ways the author of the repeated social attacks leading to shunning. He’s an ICON, remember. They were placed in the house at a higher social ranking than everyone else. Seeing HIM do that makes it acceptable for everyone ELSE to do it.

Mooning

I don’t remember any of what you said. But then, to be fair, I don’t watch the feeds. However, seems you’re not a Devens fan and I am. Maybe you didn’t see him on survivor. To me he’s a really nice fun guy, nothing like the ignorant person you’re describing…..And this is a game.

un autre nom

On feeds he is a bit of an ass. okay. more than a bit.
His dr persona is not the persona we see day to day. The way the survivor players act as have nots has me seriously questioning the veracity of survivor. Because they seem fully able to participate in those challenges with only a bag of rice between 9 people… but 36 hours indoors on a creaky bed in a noisy room while eating cut oats and protein powder… and they are absolutely useless.
I make no secret that i do not like any of the stuntcasts simply because they are stuntcasts. They are not playing, they are performing. There is zero risk to them for week one, week two one of them is given better odds at winning then the newbies. Week three he gets the strongest power in the collection. Week four another stunt gets another power. over half of the cast is wannabe reality show stars. Of course they are going to flock.
as far as game… sure. But on feeds when the mask is dropped he is a bit surly and entitled in my opinion.

Robert

I don’t think the isolation was the icons idea pure and simple. Angela may have remarked about it in regards to Jason because she holds grudges. As far as Rome goes, he never really was socially isolated because…he spent most of his time with Lyric

Gan ainm

Yeah, but… umm….it’s different when……ahhh…well, you see..no I mean….ummm…yeah,you know what I’m saying… right.

bb4eva

I’m tired of the “icons” being SO comfortable. I want them gone.
Preferably Mrs. Murray 1st. Then Dee. Then Rick.
Then Season 28 can officially begin.

Gan ainm

Unfortunately, that won’t happen until jury and by then at least one is basically guaranteed making it to final three.

Mooning

1) Devens planning to feed House guests the wrong dates pranks makes him so fun to have around. 2) I figured if he goes up Taylor would be his replacement.

d...

yeah, bad studying is a ploy i’ve always thought more houseguests should use.

obviously putting up the closest ally of the hoh should be the play with dpov unless it’s the last week it can be used and there’s a clear desired target that’s somehow safe, like they were going to be backdoored but their ally won veto and keeps noms the same.

Robert

Problem: Taylor is very suspicious of the Icons and I don’t think would fall for the wrong information

A bunch of weirdo's

I still haven’t seen any icons??? I’m confused.