3 PART FINAL HOH
HOH Part 1 Morgan / Ashley / Vinny
HOH Part 1 Winner: Morgan
HOH Part 2: Vinny & Ashley
HOH Part 2 Winner: ?
HOH Part 3: Morgan & ?
HOH Part 3 Winner: ?
8:30am Bathroom – Morgan talking to the cameras
Morgan – God, I will say that I am a little nervous to leave this house to know what the public perception could be or what may happen. I love Vince. It’s my guy. But I can’t help but worry that there is a narrative that is being painted. I know it’s true but I just don’t know. I’Il be there. I’ll get here to win. I didn’t know anybody here and I’m gonna do what I have to do.
So let’s start to work together God.
This one to speech because I need to make a decision if I do end up winning the final
three HOH. So thank you again for helping me win the final one. Just continue to be with me and guide me in this process. I’m doing my best.
8:40am – 9am Bathroom – Morgan and Ashley
Ashley – Do you know how much Vinny lies? He is the mastermind. I think it’s because you don’t know. There’s a lot of things that I know from other house guests that people share with me because nobody thought we were working together. Morgan – Yeah. Ashley – So I didn’t feel bad for a second. Morgan – Yeah. Ashley – I love Vince as a person but as a gamer, he is a master manipulator like he is out, girl. He is very good with his words and he says one thing to a lot of people and does another. Which is the main reason why Ava was saying what she was saying because she’s like, if he gets to the end, it’s going to be hard not to vote for him because he’s very good at this girl. It worked on me. I thought we were good. Like that’s been his game he’s played the entire game. Like Amy was like man, I had a conversation with him and I just felt so comfortable that I had to overshoot like I shared too much. But that’s his gameplay. He leaves every conversation making people feel good. Making people feel close to them. Did I feel bad now because nobody thought they were working together the whole game, so everyone would tell me everything. Vince joins them. They talk about how they’re getting their final 3 dinner tonight. Morgan talks about how excited she is to have gotten her period.
9:10am – 9:35am Bedroom – Morgan and Vinny
Morgan – I knew you were going to be over here. What’s going on? Vinny – Just waking up, f**king tired. Morgan – Well, it’s more than that. So what’s going on? Vinny – I’m just trying to prepare for today. Morgan – OK. How are you feeling? Vinny – Hungover. Morgan – What are you thinking? Vinny – I don’t know. Morgan – You don’t know. You don’t want to tell me. Vinny – No. I just don’t know. I don’t want to be such a downer all the time. I feel bad for feeling bad. Morgan – May I join you please? Vinny – Yep. I don’t know. I just don’t want to be like a poor sport and be like moping all the time. I’m just frustrated that there was spinning. Like the one thing I can’t I just physically can’t do. Morgan – Yeah, but you can’t control what competitions we get. Vinny – yeah. They talk about all the competitions. Vinny – so I am 4 for 27. Morgan – yeah but you know, there’s some people who don’t win anything. Vinny – I don’t care about them. I care about me and my capabilities and not living up to my capabilities. Morgan – you can’t win everything. I don’t think socially and competitively. I don’t think you’ve played a bad game, Vince. Vinny – I think everyone else thinks I have. Morgan – What did you just say? I don’t care about what everyone thinks. Vinny – No, I said. I don’t care about what they do, what game they play. I care about my own game. Morgan – So you’re telling me that you can’t tell people in the final two why you deserve to win? Vinny – I mean the only chance I had was if I won this last one and had 5 HOHs. Because then it would be a little more compelling, but. Right now, no, not really. Morgan – I don’t think that’s true. If you go with the narrative of what people are saying about. You being a liar, and what else have they said? Let’s go with what they said. Tell me what they said to you. Vinny – That I’m a weasel, that I’m a liar, that I’m playing Morgan’s game, that. Morgan – OK ignore the Morgan’s theme part because we know what they’re referring to. They don’t know about the alliance. But you know how nice it is to talk about the alliance out loud. Vinny – Yeah, I know, right? Which I still don’t even know if that was an alliance that they would have honored. Morgan – I think it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. Vinny – everything is great and then all of them hate me. Morgan – I think it says a lot that you made it this far. Vinny – Yeah, but 3rd place doesn’t do much. Morgan – What do you mean? Vinny – It’s not like super impactful for like your life doesn’t really. Really make any money, make much, you know, he thought. It doesn’t impact your life greatly. Morgan – I mean, sure, if you’re comparing it to first place, of course. I mean, that’s a sliver. But to say that your life can’t be impacted isn’t true. Tucker got 7 or 10th place. Vinny – Yeah, but I’m not beloved as him. It doesn’t matter. I don’t know I am trying to not mope my way through the last few days.
Morgan – It doesn’t mean that it wasn’t good enough. You tried your absolute best, so it is good enough. There was just other people that either needed to win it instead. And won it. It’s literally that simple.
Vinny – Being known as a liar. Morgan – I mean, you were able to get yourself out of really tough
situation. Vinny – ’cause I called what’s her face out for lying to me ’cause she was trying to call me out yesterday in a little house meeting. And I was like OK. So I lied to you. And she’s like, yeah, well, to be fair, I lied to you too, OK. So why is it OK that you lie to me? But I don’t lie to. I can’t lie to you. And she’s like, well, I’m OK lying to liars. Morgan – OK Whatever, dude. Vinny – I can literally think I lose to Ashley at this point. Morgan says that she doesn’t know if she wins against either of them. Vinny – I’m going to be known for being messy. You’re going to be known for having minimal alliances, honest, straightforward and winning everything in the second half. Like 14 competition in a row. Everything whether you need it or not that’s impressive. That’s the game I wish I played. Morgan – Yeah. But you also. Vinny – That’s the difference. I wish I played. I wish I did play your game ever since I was playing your game. I wish I did. That’s my dream game. Socially and competitively. That’s my dream game. But I don’t have a people. People wouldn’t list me under players of a strong social game, even though that’s what I really wanted. Morgan – Are you kidding? Vinny – I’m serious. The only time I could rely on anyone was when you won
your HOH’s every other time. I had to rely on myself. No one was able to save me this season, except for you on your HOHs. Morgan – Don’t you think that’s a compelling argument? Vinny – I don’t know.
Morgan – I do. Vinny – Yeah, but I just don’t know.
9:45am The feeds switch to the kitten cams…
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He’d probably lose to both of them. You played Morgan’s game VinWeasel.
Stop the pity party Vinnie. No one wants to hear it. Grow up and take responsibility for yourself.
All his GD crying does not redeem him. Next stop for Vinnie: Biggest Loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s never gonna happen.
NEVER compare yourself to king Tucker ever again Weaselinny
He didnt, morgan did
OMG they are BOTH mentally exhausting to listen to.. WTH would want a guy that is unemployed, smaller than her, that still lives with his mommy, and, constantly needs emotional support because he can’t handle life. Morgan has been basically gas lighting him the last weeks, talks to him like a child getting their feelings hurt, she has to constantly reassure him of everything and, he straightens his dang greasy hair, and according to Morgan, stinks.. She had to show him how to bathe with a dang wash cloth, wtf? lol Next season they need to leave the wimpy people at home and bring back players from Paul’s and Derrick’s season..
Morgan talks like she’s already clinched the end win. Is she getting info secretly? lol
You don’t need a washcloth to get clean. That’s just Morgan being controlling.
Vinnie is a real prize. An unemployed, 34 year old, living with parents and doesn’t bathe. What a catch. Holy Mother of Pearl, what did Kelsey see in him??.
Oh I see what Morgan’s doing, she is already setting up the rationale why they can’t take their
relationshipfriendship further outside the game. Well played from the master manipulator herself!If Ashley can get Vince evicted, she will earn more points with me than any other player in Big Brother history. She will have a fan for life with me.
And it could be how Ashley wins against Morgan.
Ashley’s jury speech can simply go:
“Raise your hand if you knew Vince was an untrustworthy, manipulative crybaby, and that he needed to go.”
(EVERYONE)
“Now, *she raises her hand* who finally evicted him? Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.”
Give her the money.
“More points than any other player in Big Brother history”?!
Wow!
In the sense that I never rooted harder for someone to lose, only to eventually come around to them and even root for them.
Not saying shed become my favorite player by any means, shed just jump more spots on my list than anyone, ever.
Wonder why Morgan was so excited to get her period ??
Yeah. That seemed like an odd comment
Probably to get it done before final night? Like the first days of her period
Or sarcacsam
usually it means one thing…
That’s what I was thinking.
Maybe they did it without protection.
If her period was late, her relief at it’s arrival is completely understandable.
Who on earth would want to have Weasel’s baby?!
Not even another weasel would want another weasel ‘s baby.
I was thinking the same thing. They’ve been in the house since July. You shouldn’t be excited unless something else has been going on in the house.
Exactly. When a woman is happy to get the monthly monster, it’s because she is relieved to not be knocked up.
How did a woman put up with this sniveling insufferable welp like Vinny The Lip and for 7 years!!!
Ashly won a comp! WOW – I hope she beats Morgan in the final comp and takes Vinney – Ashley will win hands down.
A raccoon would beat him.
A potted plant would beat him. And we would all be happy.
That’s my hope as well.
Of the 3 left, Ashley is the least awful.
It’s a tough call.
I have no respect for VInny. Crying like a baby and constantly complaining is getting very old. Grow Up!!! Oh wait he is the guy living at home with Daddy and Mommy and no job….. Please dear God let Morgan win……She absolutely deserves it!!!
Ashley won PT 2
IF Ash wins F2, takes Vinny.
I am not convinced the win goes to Ashley.
Vinny totally deserves to deal with the consequences of his actions, and lose.
But, Ashley is truly a lame winner. It’s Olympic contortion level rationale that she did anything more than coast along with a power alliance until Rachel was eliminated, then had Morgan keeping her safe. Morgan was always intent on the Judges being her alliance to end game. Ashley had no role in that motivation of Morgan’s except to keep being likeable fellow mean girl.
I do realize that jury might not see it that way.
She does deserve credit for winning Final HOH and finally separating the Vorgan.
Whereas Vinny looks like he choked and even gave up.
Votes:
Ashley: Ava, Will
Vinny: Morgan
Keanu – bros gonna bro, likely votes for Vinny
Lauren – She’s not a bitter person. She does not respect how Vinny handed his game to Morgan, but she’s too rational to give much value to Ashley’s game. Especially as Ashley was in Lauren’s nemesis group with Rachel queen. She will see Ashley as coasting in that alliance all season, especially in comparison to Lauren and Kelley’s much tougher games. What have YOU done, exactly, Ashley, to survive?
Rachel – She has said that Ashley needs to step up, play more actively and win comps. She might decide based on her biases that the final HOH and some minor moves are good enough to NOT vote for Vinny. Very likely an Ashley vote.
Kelley – THE SWING VOTE. I think she votes Vinny. She and Ashley didn’t socialize. She has an affinity for Vinny, which is why she kept giving him chances. Ashley hasn’t done enough to override the stronger parts of Vinny’s game before he tumbled.
Vinny can say that he knew he’d get the farthest with Morgan and planned to take her, that he did keep his threat lower to get Ashley to take him.
The other issue is that Ashley speaks like an over-enthused 6th grader during show and tell. She is not articulate. I’m sure she’s great with connecting to clients and finishing off contracts. Her ramblings could shift the vote to Vinny.
yeah, as much as kelley, lauren, and keanu were burned by vinny i can still see the three of them plus morgan voting for him to win. not sure he even needs rachel’s vote.
This season full of disappointment. Morgan and Vince needed to go pre jury. The players are insufferable. Ashley hooked onto Mickey and now to anybody who will have her. So sorry to the impossible decision this jury will have
Other sites reporting Ashley won part 2 HOH!
It seems he had a 15-20 minute lead ahead of Ashley, but then he messed up the instructions. He was also beating himself up about how pathetic it was to lose bc of that.
Supposedly Ashley did win part 2!
“Morgan talks about how excited she is to have gotten her period.” Excited is not the normal reaction…..unless something went on we didn’t see/weren’t shown?
So the WBRB is on covering Vinnie the lip melt down. 2pm. Part of the massive manipulation game. He is a poor excuse for a man……woman too for that matter.
Never called Kraken because I never really cared about these houseguests.
Keanu was cool but a little much some times
Vince I liked at first but that went to hate fast
Katherine I really liked but then found she was attracted to Ryle so she may be mentally unwell.
Lauren I didn’t like at first because of how she talked but later in the season she was a favorite.
Morgan– I liked Morgan for the first couple weeks then that went to hate and strong hate.
Ava sorta funny sorta gross, Jimmy would have been interesting if he lasted.
I found out Ashley has the same snorting laugh as I do. so maybe she’s a little better than I thought.. LOL
Everyone else I forget. Even that guy that did nothing yet had the best social game in the history of humanity.
Wow at Ashley winning.
Imagine her winning the first Veto and the final HOH. That would be kinda cute and probably the only time someone has only those two comp wins on their resume.
It all makes more sense now.
Sharon Tharp reported that Vinny blew a 20 minute lead bc he confused the instructions.
Which means that Ashley is still incompetent at comps. It’s like winning the race bc your competitor ran down the wrong path and had to turn back around. You still suck at running.
Damn, every time I check these updates (and it is only a couple times a week now), the weasel is throwing a “woe is me” party. Literally, EVERY.SINGLE.TIME. No one else is sick of his sh*t lol?!
so i said back at final four that my feeling was morgan wins any final 2 she’s in, ashley beats ava, ava beats vince, vince beats ashley, leaving ashley with no current path to victory. and i still stand by that but just to play devil’s advocate, let’s explore the current possible final 2 scenarios.
morgan wins part 3, takes vince – i think ashley respects morgan’s game enough to still vote morgan to win and will, ava, and rachel all vote morgan cuz they think she played the better game. now, it’s possible ashley’s bitter about her third place finish and keanu, kelley, and lauren are all so bitter at morgan that they reward vinny, but i don’t terribly seeing this happening. it’s still a possibility morgan doesn’t win this scenario however.
morgan wins part 3, takes ashley – vince is probably still a morgan stan and i don’t think ashley did a terribly good job building the relationship with lauren, keanu, or kelley to earn their vote, but it’s possible kelley plays the i don’t want to give morgan what she wants card and swings the vote onto ashley. ashley can also play up how incredibly selfish morgan was getting lauren nominated. that helped no one’s game except morgan and ava and therefore everyone else who was in the house at the time has justifiable reasons to not credit morgan for a selfish game that was played at their expense.
ashley wins part 3, takes vince – ashley gets her resume builder of winning a comp and taking out the perceived larger threat of morgan rather than caving to her. this probably is enough to earn rachel’s vote, who’s looking for an excuse to vote this way anyway, and ashley should have ava and will’s votes as well. she needs one more. i don’t think she gets morgan. kelley’s kinda an uphill battle too. ashley made no effort to be friendly to kelley and while everything vince did was fake it was still something. it’s possible kelley just says to the two of them to pick a number and ashley guesses closer but i put kelley in the tilts vince camp. so then it’s lauren and keanu. i think both don’t give a shit about ashley but genuinely want to be friends with vince post-game. mostly vince would have to blow it to make some indication he doesn’t feel the same to lose their votes, but i think it’s entirely possible he does that.
ashley wins part 3, takes morgan – i think this is a disaster for ashley. it just makes morgan look like a master manipulator and ashley potentially loses this scenario 7-0. but it’s similar arguments to morgan taking ashley. what did morgan do to further the jury’s games and for most of them, she hindered rather than helped. it’s a thin needle ashley would have to thread, but i kinda feel she did it before when she convinced the house to keep her over will, so maybe i’m underestimating her ability to make this argument.
I can just hear Julie in her disapproving voice, telling Kelley that she cannot do a lottery pick for her vote.
Waiting for the “We’ll Be Right Back” screen to go away. I can’t wait to see VinWeasels reaction to losing to the other female left in the house. I bet he’s missing Ava now. Boo hoo.
So you’re tellin me there’s a chance! GO ASHLEY!!!! GO BITTER JURY!!!
I am sure being in the BB house is a pressure cooker. Vince lost part 2 it seems to Ashley and I think he is seriously cracking. He was losing it talking to Morgan and the feeds cut. Do they give these folks some kind of psychological tests before they enter the house? He is going to be facing a lot of backlash when he leaves, no matter the outcome. I have not been a fan, but I do not think he is okay and will need help. This is supposed to be fun. I spent most of the season mad at it. Now it’s just sad.
As much as I’d prefer Ashley win this season, I want to ensure Vince does not win. The only way that happens is if Morgan wins the final HOH. If Ashley wins and takes Vince, he will win. Ashley would likely have votes from Ava, Will, and Rachel. But Vince would have votes from Lauren, Morgan, Kelley, and Keanu. I don’t see any of those four voting for Ashley, as much as Vince burned them. So Morgan winning is the lesser of two evils and have to root for her to win the final HOH.
Well it makes sense since production ruins and interrupts and manipulates this show anyway. Go Paramount Plant Ashley that is my guess who will be given the win. Big gasp!
At the end of their discussion, Vinny says” I wish I did play your game ever since I was playing your game. I wish I did. That’s my dream game. Socially and competitively. That’s my dream game. But I don’t have a people. People wouldn’t list me under players of a strong social game, even though that’s what I really wanted.” Morgan says ” Are you kidding?” Vinny –” I’m serious. The only time I could rely on anyone was when you won
your HOH’s every other time. I had to rely on myself. No one was able to save me this season, except for you on your HOHs.” Morgan – “Don’t you think that’s a compelling argument?” Vinny – I don’t know.
Yes, Vinny that is a compelling argument FOR MORGAN’S game! You just said it was her game you were playing, not yours & no would save him but Morgan.
Why is everyone so hard on Vinny? Vinny lies and everyone calls him names but everyone else can lie and they are playing the game. Hmmmm isn’t that the point of Big Brother? Vinny has been playing since the beginning and when he made too many alliances he had to work people from that point on. He chose to go against Lauren because it would hurt his relationship with Morgan and she could help him more. He had to work harder than Morgan and he has won alot. So Vince deserves to win. If Ashley is up there and they give it to her it will be a joke!!! She was mostly a floater. Just because she talked strategy toward the end doesn’t mean she put in work. ?
I dunno, my Vince-hate has been on autopilot for a while so maybe if I did a reevaluation it might be less now. He made alliances with so many people and just had to let the person get burned and just hope that the person would forget about it I guess and also try to lie a lot to get out of all the corners he painted himself into? Just the constant burning people over and over and still acting like he was the victim every time just seemed slimy to me.
I agree about the lying, it’s part of the game. The reason he pisses people off is that he goes into self defeating mode instead of using good game logic to mist people after the fact. It creates perception of slimy weasel.
In DR Ava justified her idiotic house meeting by saying that yes, lying is part of the game, but Vinny lies for no reason and that hurts. Eh, that’s stupid. The game hurts even though it’s ALL only a game. Many HGs are lied to and blindsided on their evictions. It’s just easier to deal with someone by saying yes to them. Vinny hates confrontation. Does that mean he’s selfishly hurting others? NO, because ultimately THIS IS ALL A GAME.
Crossing the line on lies goes to someone like Dr Will telling his house GF that he has cancer. Yet, we all love him.
Ava was just feeling her feels and took it out on Vinny. She also wanted a drama moment.
Maybe Morgan will throw the final HOH to Ashley, just so she doesn’t have to take Vince to the final 2?
Only if she’s a complete moron. If Ashley won and she took Morgan to final 2 then SHE would be the moron.
The only correct move in final 3 is to win and take the weakest competitor with you to final 2.