“Those two are the Cancer. They’re the cancer.. everybody sees it”

Quick spoilers

Head of household
LaTrice
Nominees
Chuk, Haley, Barrett
POV players
Kamu, Chuk, Haley, LaTrice, Barrett, Dee
POV winner
Pending
Veto ceremony
Pending
Have-nots
Drew, Chuk, Haley, Barrett

Big Brother 28 spoilers: it’s veto day, and the house spent the morning running two completely different versions of it.

Downstairs, Haley thinks she’s finally got the full picture. Angela came to her crying and admitted she was one of the flipped votes – so Haley’s now certain it was Angela and Dee – and the Red Corner’s whole week rests on one idea: Kamu might go up as the renom, so nobody should touch the veto at all. Haley likes her own chances in the comp too. The way she figures it, it comes down to her or Kamu, and she’s the one with the memory.

Upstairs is where the morning actually happened. That renom idea Haley’s counting on? Taylor says Kamu pitched it himself – “let me be the backdoor” – and it’s doing exactly what it was built to do. The room scripts the rest of the week while they’re at it: Taylor’s going to walk around mopey about Lala not sticking to the plan, and fake a falling-out with Dee, strictly for Haley and Chuk’s benefit. Angela walks them through her confession tour – she got to Kamu in the bathroom before Haley could – and Lala’s read on the whole thing is simple: she couldn’t have written this better.

In between: Taylor gets a moment alone that tells you everything about how her week is going to go, Dee corners Kamu in the gym about her name coming out of his mouth, and Drew and Taylor celebrate the veto draw with one ground rule for the next two days – be quiet, and this goes through.

The veto plays today. However it is almost noon at the time of this post and the backyard is still open. This may be the timmed veto inside.

Week 5 Power of Veto players

Lala (HOH) · Haley, Chuk & Barrett (nominees) · Kamu & Dee (drawn to play)

Feeds go down for the Power Of Veto competition ~1:44 pm PST

BB28 Time Capsule tally

The BB Time Capsule is a multi-week America’s Vote twist running Weeks 2 through 7. America votes one houseguest into the capsule each week, that person competes, and they either win a power or take a punishment. Each houseguest can only go in once.

  • Week 2- Angela Murray: lost, and wore the Hard-Boiled Detective costume
  • Week 3 – Rick Devens: won the Diamond Power of Veto
  • Week 4 – Dee Valladares: BB Bribe power.This allows her to offer one houseguest $5,000 in exchange for performing an action that benefits her game.
  • Week 5 – Mallory and of course she gets the punishment a Fg-leaf unitard costumes and are tethered together for 48 hours. Mallory got to choose who she was paired with and picked Melody.

10:10 AM – Haley and Taylor, getting ready for the Power of Veto competition

Haley: “I was even more pissed that she came down here crying. Dee’s worried about her game? Now you’re only worried about your game, because you threw two of your best friends under the bus.”
Haley: “And she said, you people are playing both sides of the house. Again, at the end of the day, it’s a f—ing game.”

Taylor: “I’m in the worst position ever right now. Guilty. Again, guilty. Guilty by association.”

Production calls Haley out for not wearing her microphone.

Haley: “You know, but Chuk’s got you. I got you. Kamu’s got you. You’re fine. I promise. I promise on that.”
Taylor: “The idea that Kamu’s the possible backdoor.”
Haley: “That’s why no one’s going to use it.”
Taylor: “But I was thinking this is the best case scenario for you guys, and to uphold your alliance. Because if Kamu wins, not only can he keep himself safe, but he can pull one of y’all down.”
Haley: “Yeah, I think it’s just going to come down to who might be the better player in this, as far as, like, me or him, who could bear it. But, like, I’m not saying I’m the better player, but I do have the memory of it.”
Taylor: “You still have that?”
Haley: “Like, I have a good memory and everything, and I have all of it. It’s just going to come down to who. And honestly, I wouldn’t be mad either way.”

Chuk joins them and brings up Angela crying.

Haley: “Hey, no matter what, reassurance – she’s good.”
Haley: “And you know what else makes me more pissed off? Is I got a lot of guilt if I would have put up Angela or Lala. She pushed me to not do it, because that’s her friend. So now I’m like, what the f— was that? She pushed me to not do it. And I said, hey, well, Taylor, do you want another person? Like, so f— that. So I f—ed up. Sorry.”
Taylor: “It’s fine, but it’s just crazy.”
Haley: “But I already had so much heat with her that I just didn’t want any more.”
Taylor: “I would say this is the best case scenario for y’all. We’re good.”

“Angela’s the only one that admitted it, and I’m telling you out of confidence, so please don’t repeat.”

— Haley

Haley: “God’s in our graces, because this is bullshit. I saw your face.”
Taylor: “Oh my God. This is crazy. You know what’s crazy? I’ll be watching this game and I’ll be like, there’s no way that happened. Or last week and this week. You know, last week I went in there and I pulled every name out of that bucket. It’s really everybody. I was like, what the hell? If you go in there right now and pull out all them chips, everybody’s name is going to be in those chips.”
Chuk: “When you watch it on TV, you’re like, there’s no way. There’s no way that’s real. I would have thought, especially the way this week is going, I would have said, there’s no way Chuk’s name just got pulled, and he’s on the block.”
Haley: “I told you. I said, God’s got to come through, you know, because that’s bullshit.”
Taylor: “And there’s no way Dee’s name got pulled, too.”
Chuk: “Crazy.”
Taylor: “That’s what I’m saying. If y’all think Dee flipped?”
Haley: “Her and Angela did. There’s no doubt. There’s no doubt.”
Haley: “Angela’s the only one that admitted it, and I’m telling you out of confidence, so please don’t repeat.”

Haley: “And I want her (Lala) to apologize too for that shit.”
Taylor: “Why she do that? Y’all six can come back together, and then everybody stays, because y’all have the votes. And that’s why I’m literally like, what the f— did you just do? Why the f— didn’t you stick to the plan?”
Haley: “You know what I’m saying? Does she know what she just did?”
Haley: “She ain’t gonna listen, but she knows.”
Taylor: “Like, you know, you know it was supposed to be Kamu, Drew, and Barrett. And you saw the moment I was sitting there.”
Haley: “Did she know that was -“
Taylor: “You saw that. You saw that. After this. She knows.”
Haley: “She knows.”
Taylor: “Like, bro, what the f— you just did?”

Haley: “But you have my word. You’re good.”
Taylor: “But still.”
Haley: “I’m also a type of person – now that I just got burned twice, I ain’t getting burned again. So. I’m still down to make a pact with Yash. We are. I got a cool name in line. Period.”
Haley: “Love you, Tay.”

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10:16 AM – Taylor alone in the pod room

Taylor talks to herself about Haley.

Taylor: “And I’m really gonna make her think everything is chaotic as f—, because chaos is power to her.”

Taylor leaves the room.

Drew: “We got all the people we wanted to play.”

They dance around.

Taylor: “They think I’m like, what the f—. They think that it’s all good.”

Drew: “Because, like, if Barrett wins, that’s great. What if Kamu wins?”
Taylor: “It’s good, too.”
Drew: “Is he going to do what Lala said?”
Taylor: “What Lala told him to do?”
Drew: “I think, like, I thought the plan was – keep nomination. Is that keep? Oh, keep nomination. I think he would probably keep noms the same. He’s got to separate himself. He’d take one of them off.”
Taylor: “For him, I think you should keep them the same.”
Drew: “Right. Because, like, he’s got to separate them.”
Taylor: “So all you got to do for the next two days is be quiet. Just be quiet. Just be quiet. As long as you stay quiet -“
Drew: “I’m chill.”
Taylor: “- this will go through. For sure.”

10:22 AM – Kamu and Dee (Gym)

Dee: “Because I trust you? Yeah, let’s talk about it all. But I did hear that you threw out my name. Like, if you won HOH, you’d put me up on the block.”
Kamu: “Really?”
Dee: “Yes.”
Kamu: “Okay, well, of course, I want to know who.”
Dee: “And first of all, before you even answer – if you did say it, I truly, in my heart, don’t care. Not because I don’t care. Like, I know where you stand, and you know where I stand. But I would hope that you’d tell me the truth, because I just opened up to you.”
Kamu: “No, I’m going to tell you the truth. People ask me, like, hey, if you won the wall -“

Feeds flip to Angela and Lala in the kitchen.

Angela: “Chuk is hurt, too.”
Lala: “He’ll get over it. He’s very hurt with me.”

Taylor joins Angela and they head up to the HOH room.

10:23 AM – Taylor, Angela and Lala (HOH Room)

Taylor: “I’m going to wait till Lala get here. But this is exactly, once again, what I said. Something about Kamu saying, let me be the backdoor, just worked out. Because if Kamu wins, he can keep noms the same.”
Angela: “He could, but do you think he’d really do that with Haley and Chuk up there?”
Taylor: “I think he will.”
Angela: “And Barrett?”
Taylor: “I think he will. If he was to take off somebody, it probably would be Barrett. I don’t know. Something’s telling me that Kamu’s trying to get off that train. Because they’re going to be the targets for the next few weeks. The vote said everything. The vote is the house agreeing that them two – that’s why it flipped. Things don’t work if people don’t agree. They want to get them two out of here. And if Kamu wanted to save his game from being a part of that, he would do it. Just to kind of gain the trust with the house. Because everybody kind of already sees that Kamu’s the good guy.”

Lala joins them.

Lala: “I said, how perfect is that? I said, boy, talk about a plan well made.”

Angela: “I had to live with her for five days. So she came in the bathroom, because I told her. And she already knew. And she’s like, I know, pretty much. I know.”
Lala: “To both of y’all or just you?”
Angela: “Just to me. I’m the only one who said anything.”
Lala: “Why she want to know who started it so bad?”
Angela: “I don’t know, but I’m not going to tell her nothing. I just told her I heard mumbles of it just before. It was a last-minute decision, which it pretty much was. Done. And I’m sorry – I didn’t do it to hurt her. I didn’t do it to hurt Chuk. I didn’t do it to hurt Kamu. I didn’t do it to hurt anybody. I just did it.”
Angela: “She doesn’t understand it. And she said that you were my closest person, next to Chuk and Kamu. And now she’s like, you know all my secrets. You know everything.”
Taylor: “And you keep them.”
Angela: “I told her I’m not going to say anything. What you had to say to me isn’t even part of the game. It doesn’t hurt or affect anybody’s game. So I’m not gonna be doing that. And that’s not even who I am anyway. But what I will do is stand on business, and I don’t want to be told what I’m gonna be doing. She sat there and told – and she said it so loud – she goes, you are the one that said to put up, or to not put up, but to vote up Melody.”
Lala: “Ooh, she trying to blow up your game.”
Angela: “And Melody was sitting right over there.”
Lala: “She trying to blow up your game. You see how she get? That’s ugly.”
Angela: “And I was like, that is what the consensus in the room was. Am I supposed to go against everything and everybody? Well, guess what? I did.”

Angela: “I told her, when she started getting a little bit loud with me – do you just want me to go out and tell the whole house? Because everybody knows I did it. I’ll just do it. And she goes, no.”
Angela: “But then she tried to take Kamu, and I hadn’t yet had a chance to tell him. And she was looking at him like, come with me here – this is just before the meeting – come with me here, I’m going to tell you something. And I looked him in the eyes, and I said, I need to talk to you before you talk to me. And so he did come with me. Went in the bathroom, and I just basically spilled my heart out. I said, I did it. I’m one of the votes. And I just looked him in the eyes. I said, I didn’t do it to hurt you. I didn’t do it to hurt Haley. I didn’t do it to hurt Chuk. I just did it. I think he wanted to also know where it came from. And I said, I’m doing this for my game. And when I feel I need to take off my chest and my heart, I can’t do anything for anybody else.”
Taylor: “I think he was down. I think he feels the same way. It’s getting them off of him. Like how he was like, whatever y’all doing ain’t right, I need to get y’all off me. I think that’s why he would be willing to – use it, not use it – in the veto. I really do. I think y’all two are in the same head space.”
Lala: “Those two are the cancer.”
Taylor: “Yeah. Everybody sees it.”
Lala: “Everybody sees it. You ought to be taking that as a blessing that you see it, because that’s discernment.”
Angela: “Well, no, I do see it. But also, like I’ve been telling you, when you come in, you can’t always pivot and pinpoint exactly. You don’t know who they are until you start getting in. I saw Chuk, I’m like, ooh, yes. He looks straight up – cowboy hat, honesty, all the things.”
Taylor: “I think Chuk was good until he got with her.”
Angela: “I think he still is good.”
Taylor: “Oh, yeah. But he’s with her.”
Angela: “I think he just needs to be pulled away from her.”
Taylor: “He’s her. It’s her. Just like yesterday, perfect example, when we was watching them in the living room – Chuk was like, the second she came. Like he’s under a freaking trance.”
Lala: “Because he really is a nice guy.”
Taylor: “He really is. He is a sweet guy.”
Lala: “And I told him, I said, you attached to something that’s like poison for you.”
Angela: “He didn’t say anything in rebuttal to it?”
Taylor: “He went down there and told her everything. He went down there and said, she told me I’m attached to a sinking ship. He was stuck on that.”
Lala: “And I told him, I said, Chuk, I’m telling you this for you and for your game and for your own good. I said, you are tethered to someone who’s bringing you down. You’re not going to be able to play a game, because you’re attached to this. You’re not going anywhere but home. I said, but you do what you got to do. I said, but the consensus of the whole freaking house – the whole house. Come on. But I said what I said, and I’m done. I’m not saying another word about it.”

“I think moving forward, I’m just going to walk around mopey at you not sticking to the plan, and me and Dee mad at each other.”

— Taylor, planning the performance

Taylor: “Yeah, I think moving forward, I’m just going to walk around mopey at you not sticking to the plan, and me and Dee mad at each other.”
Lala: “But I only want them to think that, not everybody to think that.”
Taylor: “Oh, yeah, yeah. I think just they think that. We’re not doing it amongst other people.”
Lala: “It’s just me and Dee around them.”

Taylor: “Because I think right now, her and Chuk are literally like – they’re on a war path. She literally said, God is working.”
Lala: “No, she did not.”
Taylor: “She was like, ain’t that crazy how God works? And Chuk was like, yes, man, let’s go.”
Angela: “When Kamu got picked, she couldn’t have been happier. She looked over at me with the biggest smile.”
Lala: “It couldn’t be more perfect. I couldn’t have written this better. This could not be a better script. Are you freaking kidding me?”

They tell Angela the timing of her confession, right before the nomination ceremony, was perfect.

Angela: “After we talked last night, I stayed up with Dee a little longer, and I was like, I don’t want to wait. I was crying literally all day yesterday. I had to go to the DR several times. I was telling Dee, I don’t know, it’s weighing on my heart. I don’t know what to do. And it was mainly because of Kamu, not so much Haley. But I needed to tell Haley too. It wasn’t something I could just go tell Kamu and not Haley. And immediately after I told Haley, she went and told Chuk immediately. Then came back in the bathroom to give me her two cents again and told me she didn’t tell Chuk. And I was like, uh, yeah, you did.”
Taylor: “Because Chuk said that you told him.”
Taylor: “Okay, let me just say something to you. They are going to try to pull you in a cesspool of regret and feeling bad and sorry. Don’t fall in it. She’s trying to keep the alliance. Don’t fall in it. She even said she’s still in that savior idea, that one of us may have to go.”
Angela: “How do you know all that?”
Taylor: “That’s what she just told me.”

Angela: “And I already told her – I think I cried to you in the storage unit – I said, somebody’s trying to plant things to get me to not like you. And I think it’s going to happen where they’re going to tell you the same thing. And I said, I’m not going to do it. We both said we’re not going to do it. She’s a manipulator.”
Taylor: “This is the most I’ve ever talked to Haley. She’s a mastermind. What she said to me, she said, you’re a shoo-in right now. You’re good, Taylor. You know we got you. She’s coming to me. I’m just being myself. I’m just obviously bothered. But she’s coming to me. That’s how I know she’s scrambling. She came to me three times yesterday. She is scrambling.”

Angela: “Well, I do feel better. I did talk to the girls, Mallory and Melody, and they were thankful for what I did. They can’t believe that I pretty much just told her. And I was like, but I had to. It was something I needed to do. And they both told me – they said, everybody does. She’s mean. She is. And she doesn’t even realize that.”
Taylor: “That is scary. I can’t get away from her. She’s going to be tied on you like – everywhere I go, she won’t leave me alone. Like shit on a stick.”
Angela: “Well, that’s what she’d do to me. And that’s what she did to Jason. I’m letting you guys know, I did like her. I like her. There’s just – this game is not pretty sometimes. And I think it brings out bad things in people sometimes.”
Taylor: “Well, she is not showing her best face at all.”
Angela: “No, she doesn’t. She told me she’s going to take it easy on me. She’s done. So I won’t have it anymore. And I think maybe that was the best thing I could have done also. Because she just kept coming at me, wanting me just to confess. Well, now I have. Leave me alone. Now she’s, like, leaving me alone.”

“I’m owning up to it”

Taylor: “Because I know for me, first I was kind of hearing it. It started with the idea that Lyric switched on Mallory. That’s where it started. And Lyric kind of told her herself, because I told you she came in the pod – I’m so sorry, Mallory. I’m so sorry, Mallory. So whispers started trickling through the house. And I remember I had a conversation with Devens, and we was kind of like – that was the first time I talked with somebody out loud about it. Obviously I told Lala, but out loud about it. Like, that is not good for her game. But I felt like everybody was having conversations at the same time. And then it just kind of converged. It just slowly started to be like, okay. I really think that’s what happened. But I think Melody definitely campaigned her ass off, and that was probably the premise of her campaign.”
Angela: “Yeah, she campaigned to me, too. But she didn’t throw anybody under the bus when she did it, so I thought that was really admirable.”
Taylor: “And that’s why Haley was trying to push Melody’s hand. You know Melody said she was going to put you on the block?”
Lala: “Melody? I don’t think Melody said that. I don’t believe a goddamn thing that that chick says.”

Taylor: “So honestly, Mama A, I would think that you would be trying to get back in her good graces and keep the alliance – the idea that she has of keeping the six.”
Angela: “I don’t have any interest.”
Taylor: “I know, but you might have to just play into it this week.”
Angela: “I don’t want to. Period.”
Angela: “It’s actually better now, the way that it is. She probably will come to me at some point, maybe not today. Depending on what happens with the veto. If she gets the veto, she’s going to probably give me a big f—.”

11:24 AM – Haley and Chuk (Outside)

Chuk: “I needed to know who. And now that I know who -“
Haley: “You’re talking loud.”
Chuk: “It’s okay. All I need to know is just who. And now that I know who, I’m chilling. Because now I’m going to go play the game. It’s going to be fun. Without, like, someone up there reminding me.”
Haley: “Yeah, it’s going to be fun.”
Chuk: “Yeah, it’s going to be so chill.”

Chuk: “Is that Angela? I know she is worried. This is like the worst thing to happen to her, based off the way she likes to be perceived, the way she likes America to see her, the way she doesn’t have anyone. She’s just someone who’s always paranoid. And the fact that she knows that some big players are gonna know that she is this – good luck to Miss Angela.”
Haley: “Hats off.”

They speculate about what the veto could be.

Haley: “There was one time where it was like a shopping spree, whatever. This also could be one of the vetoes that’s like, who could stay in the pressure cooker the longest. Or like twirl around a thing. I don’t know, just something stupid.”
Chuk: “It doesn’t feel good.”
Haley: “I know.”
Chuk: “I’m smiling.”
Haley: “We’re fine.”

Chuk: “So this is how people feel on the block.”
Haley: “I feel fine. I’m just glad it’s not the first couple weeks.”
Chuk: “Of course we’re fine. But sometimes I’ll just be walking around, I’m like, wait.”
Haley: “I’m not going to be weird. I’m also not going to act like any weird behavior either.”

Haley: “I’m going to try talking to her again.”
Chuk: “Who?”
Haley: “Lala.”
Chuk: “No, I’m not talking to her. And I’m not hearing anything, any comments she makes in terms of food or this or that.”
Haley: “Did you see she tried to stand upstairs and act like we were talking? I was like, hello. I’m not saying anything bad. It’s almost like we said Taylor’s name and she panicked. She wants to hear us say something. And Taylor’s not clocking them. She’s over this shit.”
Chuk: “She should be. I think Taylor’s ready to say, hey, if you guys take me in, I will be on board with you guys.”
Haley: “I told her.”
Chuk: “Taylor’s so real, man. I love that about her. Isn’t it crazy that people you sometimes don’t know about will truly rise for you? With you and her – like, the people sometimes you may have had some sort of unsureness with.”
Haley: “It was just a weird shit from two weeks ago, but it’s real. But, again, I’m also not going to beg somebody to be my friend now. I think everything kind of just showed what it was.”

Chuk: “It’s f—ing week five. Straight up, I’m not even thinking anymore. It’s gonna be fine regardless. It’s gonna be a vibe.”

Haley: “I think he thinks he’s fine, though. I think he thinks he’d be fine.”
Chuk: “He’s naturally chill, you know?”

“This is absolute cinema. Martin Scorsese couldn’t have wrote this better.”

— Chuk, from the block

Chuk: “It’s like storybook. I don’t know if producers were eating that shit up like this. This is absolute cinema. Martin Scorsese couldn’t have wrote this better.”
Haley: “The whole season from day one. But I’m not f—ing going to sit here and cry, like, boohoo and whatever. Like, the f—?”
Chuk: “Do I want to stay in this game and play the game? Yeah. Did I make it to week five? Yeah. Did somebody have a better game play or a dumb game play that, like, boom – it’s like, okay, cool, yeah.”

Chuk: “You were a little shabang yesterday.”
Haley: “I was being honest, though.”
Chuk: “I didn’t even cry, though.”
Haley: “Boy, you put both paws to the eyes. I pray they don’t show that.”
Chuk: “I pray they don’t show that. It’s going to ruin my aura.”

Chuk: “She doesn’t know what to do. She’s like a lost puppy.”
Haley: “I want to find Taylor and Dee. I don’t know where they went.”
Chuk: “Every time I see her, I just see lost puppy.”
Haley: “I feel like she’s looking for people.”
Chuk: “And she’s trying to play this gameplay that she just doesn’t have. She just tried to act confused. And I told her, like, no, no, you’re actually confused. And I love that Taylor agreed too. She’s like, she’s actually confused. She doesn’t know how to have conversations with people about anything. Like, what do you think about this person? She’s never said something like that. That’s not her.”
Chuk: “She’s just here for her f—ing kids. I love her kids. Beautiful kids, by the way. She’s truly just here to show her kids that someone of her age can be on the show.”
Haley: “That’s what she’s here for. That’s okay. Taylor’s here for her kids.”

Haley: “Well, now that he knows that somebody else was told they’re the pawn -“
Chuk: “Barrett’s probably like, uh-huh. When did we ever talk? And I’m sure when I told Barrett, she told me I’m the pawn, he’s like, I believe you. I’m sure in his head, he’s like, I feel like you’re the actual pawn. Yes, Barrett, I am. Like, buddy.”
Chuk: “Haley, Haley, Haley. This game. I can’t wait to watch this back over again and just see how funny things were edited.”

Haley: “Did you smile when your face got popped up there? I did too.”
Chuk: “I was smiling at her and going like this.”
Chuk: “Angela, please go to the dining room downstairs.”
Haley: “I know she didn’t sleep last night.”

Haley: “Do we look like dickheads when we’re up here?”
Chuk: “No, we’re on the block. When we’re on the block, you don’t ever look like a dickhead. I make the rules. Anytime someone’s on the block, I just feel sad for them.”

Haley: “Lala just told her she looks exhausted. I kind of want to talk to Dee and, like, see where her head’s at. Especially with this Blockbuster.”
Chuk: “Where the f— did they go? You want to try to look? And snoop for them.”
Haley: “We got nothing else to do. Let’s do it.”

Chuk: “The veto is who can get up the stairs the quicker.”
Haley: “My slippers. My slippers aren’t working.”

They head inside to look for Taylor and Dee.

Haley: “Found you, f—ers.”

11:34 AM – Haley, Dee, Chuk and Kamu (Gym)

Haley: “I’m just gonna tell you. Well, because no one’s talking to her. And I told her, I did tell her, I said, dude, just give me a beat, dude.”
Kamu: “How do you feel? I’m assuming that’s why you went to pull me aside this morning?”
Haley: “I just said that, hey, I want to talk, yeah. Because I’m not mad at her. I’m disappointed with the fact of her whole narrative – because she tried to blame it on him and Yash, and then she blamed it on you, and said, I don’t know if she should trust him again. I’m more upset with the fact of, like, I’ve had idiot across my forehead this entire time. And all these little things she’s been telling me – I’m cool with whatever. And again, you and I have shared stuff with her. So now I’m kind of like, well, f—, you know? That doesn’t help.”
Haley: “I was cool with it if we just would have owned up to it right then. But the narrative – that she tried to push everyone under the bus. Then I’m pissed that she knew. When I came up to you guys, I said, I’m asking both of you. The only person I’ve talked to is Chuk.”
Dee: “In that moment, I felt a little bit attacked.”
Haley: “Well, I think it’s because she also knew, also. But I was talking to both of you guys, and I tried to reiterate, and I was like, I’m sorry.”
Kamu: “Yeah, I know, and I appreciate that this morning.”
Dee: “Yeah, and I reiterated. And I just feel bad for Taylor, because she didn’t deserve that.”
Haley: “I’m more upset because she also went up and marched with you up there and talked, and then she came down boo-hoo crying and said, like, Dee’s worried about her game. Dee’s upset about this. I knew Dee shouldn’t have went up there and talked to her. She should have taken a beat.”
Haley: “And then I get up in the middle of the night last night, cause something feels off. I was like, something’s telling me to go find Angela. She’s boo-hoo crying. I give her a hug. And I got up because something didn’t feel right. And I also had two dreams – two dreams that somebody was bullshitting me. And I told her that too. And you also slept in my motherf—ing bed. And the only thing I’m mad about is she shouted out my parents, said what she did with my parents, and then betrayed me. If she would have came honest, it was fine. But she threw every one of us under the bus.”
Haley: “So I f—ed up. I trusted it, and it is what it is. I still love her as a person.”
Haley: “She said that it was Dee.”
Dee: “Yeah, I felt that.”

Chuk: “She threw me under the bus so quick. But it’s because me and Yash were in the kitchen, just sussing everyone out. And Angela was acting so suspicious. She just kept staring at us.”
Haley: “I don’t know what her angle was, because the only reason I switched to Melody is because she said she’s swinging for all of us. And we’ve talked about it.”
Chuk: “We could have easily went the Lyric route if we felt like, hey, let’s get Lyric out. And if we had agreed on that as a whole, without having two people in our lines kind of skate by, I think we could have agreed it as a whole. This wasn’t a hard thing.”
Haley: “She just had too many stories that went with it. I’m still cool with the person. If they eventually fess up, I’m cool. Because no one else has sat here and tried to tell me lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. And then here’s the big lie. And I’m like, wait, what? So that’s why I just feel more hurt that it was her.”

Kamu: “Did she at least explain to you why?”
Haley: “No, she’s not telling me why.”
Chuk: “She keeps telling me it was just one vote. That’s it. And she keeps trying to downplay it.”
Haley: “Well, and I tried to ask, and she goes, it didn’t come from me. And she still made it seem like it was you this morning.”
Kamu: “It’s f—ed. Yeah. Because, like, I’m not cool with Taylor either. So now I’m like, bro.”
Kamu: “Have you talked to Yash?”
Dee: “Yeah, a little bit, but – is he throwing me under the bus?”
Chuk: “Yash has never mentioned your name.”
Dee: “Okay, good.”
Chuk: “And so that’s the thing. My relationship with y’all is pretty solid. And I don’t care if anyone swears on their parents, the Bible – I truly just have to feel if you’re telling the truth, because anyone can lie in this game, right? How you are in this game is not how you are in the outside world. But I believe Yash. I believe Yash.”
Dee: “So if you’re saying you believe Yash, you’re saying you don’t believe me.”
Chuk: “Well, with Angela fessing up, and Angela letting us know that it was her, and her bringing in your name – you do have to understand, we’re in a hard point.”
Dee: “I get it. Angela can say whatever she wants.”
Chuk: “But her kind of being like, hey, it was me, and this was also this person as well – and it being you. It’s tough.”

Chuk: “Have you had conversations with Yash to where you feel like Yash is definitely lying?”

They decide to bring Yash up. Kamu gets up to go get him.

Chuk: “Like, we’re trying to get Rome out, and you guys go the other way.”

“I’ll just stand 10 toes down on: you voted to pick Melody.”  “And that’s all you know.”

— Kamu to Yash, on the walk to the gym

The camera follows Kamu outside to the backyard, where Yash is sleeping, and back up the stairs.

Kamu: “Chuk and Haley and Dee, they want to talk. Sorry, brother.”
Kamu: “Basically, Chuk and Haley are kind of, like, interrogating Dee about the vote, because, you know, Angela fessed up. And then Angela said that Dee – so we’ll go over there, in the gym.”
Yash: “Did Dee talk to you at all?”
Kamu: “Yeah, yeah, no, dude. Dee and I had a great conversation.”
Kamu: “I’ll just stand 10 toes down on: you voted to pick Melody.”
Yash: “Yeah.”
Kamu: “And that’s all you know.”
Yash: “Yeah.”
Kamu: “And then I’m gonna do the same for me. And then Angela told me. So I’m just gonna be like, yo, Angela told me. So all I know is that you, me – we voted Melody. Angela voted Lyric.”

In the Have-Not room, Chuk and Yash reaffirm their loyalty after Angela’s name-drop created tension. Chuk is furious that anyone tried to drive a wedge between him and Yash, and he makes it clear their bond is solid.

They discuss the fallout from the flipped vote, Haley’s paranoia, and the need to keep their core five (Chuk, Yash, Dee, Kamu, Haley) intact. Chuk vows that if he doesn’t win the game, he wants one of his closest people to take it, and tells Yash to go win the Power of Veto.

The conversation ends with mutual “I love yous” just before the Veto competition begins and the feeds go down.

1:26 PM – Yash and Chuk (Have Not Room)

Chuk: “People throwing my name out in any capacity – that’s what pisses me off. And I have to clock Dee for that, because don’t you try and f—ing put a wedge in between me and my boy. That is not a thing. That’s not happening.”
Chuk: “Dude, I want you to know, I’ve got you.”
Yash: “F— that. Will never happen.”
Yash: “And the main thing is too, I had to bring it up there. I want all four of them to know that.”
Chuk: “And I’m happy that Angela responded saying it was nothing more than that. She stood by it. I’m so glad you guys grabbed her, because I wanted to truly know, like, hey, this wasn’t like a -“
Yash: “Like a, yo, Yash is dead.”
Chuk: “I know it wasn’t. It truly wasn’t like that. And so I’m really glad Angela was able to confirm that.”

Chuk: “Us in the alliance – we just know we got each other. I want you to know, dude, I love you, dude. I love you, dude.”
Yash: “I was just making sure it was known to them. And solid. That I needed all of them to know – if Angela brings up my name, it’s clear where I stand.”

Chuk: “I think me, you, Dee, Kamu, Haley are still straight. So straight. Haley’s, you know, she’s freaked out, but I was letting her know that everything’s still good. That meeting was perfectly fine.”
Chuk: “When Angela is saying this about you, people who are on the block are going to be suspicious. And I think anyone who gets mad at someone who’s on the block trying to fight for their life doesn’t understand properly.”
Yash: “You haven’t been on there yet.”
Yash: “Also, too – Haley made a good point with the veto, right? If Taylor’s telling you guys she’s done with Lala, then we have the numbers.”
Chuk: “And I think you’ve got to understand why Haley’s so mad, and also why I’m pretty mad as well.”

Chuk: “So we’re like, Angela, do you know what you just did? Do you know what I’m saying? Why people can be hurt? And I don’t know why people don’t allow people to be hurt – but it’s not the game, so you’re not really hurt. If that makes any sense. It’s still upsetting.”
Chuk: “I truly love Angela. She’s like a mom. Me and Haley were like her honorary kids.”
Yash: “And that hurt, bro. That does hurt.”

Chuk: “I wanted to make sure me and you are solid, dude. I have nothing to worry about, bro. I was like, dude, don’t you f—ing try and get a wedge in here. Weren’t you there when we said that? I was like, this is solid. Whatever the f— y’all got going on to figure out, figure it the f— out.”
Chuk: “And I like what you mentioned – hey, if you guys need to play your game, play your game. And I got what you meant by that.”
Yash: “I was like, you guys figure out whatever the f— y’all need to figure out.”

Chuk: “I feel bad for her, because it almost feels like Angela didn’t have to have those word choices. Like, no matter how much me and you were going at it – I didn’t even think we were going at it. We never. It was me and you.”
Yash: “We had such a simple convo. Just saying it how it was.”
Chuk: “The B word would never come out of my mouth. F— you would never come out of my mouth. Nothing like that ever warrants in this house that coming out of my mouth. She took it to a whole nother level.”
Chuk: “She’s sad for me, because she said she feels like I’m guilty by association. But I’m like, in this house, that’s going to happen. Truly, no one can just be alone by themselves.”
Yash: “It’s all micro-relations.”
Chuk: “That’s going to constantly happen in this house. So I told her, don’t feel bad. I told her, in this house, people are gonna gravitate to a friend or whatever.”

Chuk: “If you were there, I’m pulling you the f— off. There’s too many other fries – big fries, whatever. Big fish.”
Yash: “Yeah. Fries. Hungry.”
Chuk: “The have-not life. Dude, I’m a have-not, but I’m still solid.”
Chuk: “I want to battle it out with my boys at the end. I want to battle it out with my people at the end.”

Chuk: “I believe you. So before you got in, I told her, I believe Yash. And she said, if you believe Yash, are you saying that to me? And I’m saying, I’m not being accusatory. I just truly believe Yash and Kamu. I truly believe Yash, and I’m going to stand on that.”

Yash: “But you got to tell Haley sometimes to chill the f— out.”
Chuk: “Tell me more.”
Yash: “This is constructive.”
Chuk: “Yeah, it is.”
Yash: “Because I never lie in this game. I tell my truth every time, because I keep it a buck. I told her, I was like, yeah, I told all of us. I was like, Angela cried to me in the morning and was like, I need to tell them. Me and Angela never spoke. We never spoke. And then Haley was like, but I find that hard. I find that weird to believe. I’m like, I’ve given you no reason to not trust me. You still don’t trust me. We call Angela up. Angela’s like, yeah, that’s exactly what happened. And I said, do I lie? I don’t lie.”
Yash: “Paranoia set in. To me, it’s cool, because I’m with you. But to someone else, that’s distasteful. And if she can’t trust me in this situation, who the f— does she have?”
Chuk: “From me and her convos, she trusts you wholeheartedly. Our relationship is closer, of course.”
Yash: “Yeah, ours is.”
Chuk: “But she trusts you wholeheartedly, dude.”

“I will be ranting on Instagram if I f—ing see it.”

— Chuk

Chuk: “There are some people in this house who I will die to never go up, and die to make sure they come back. You’re one of them. Haley, Kamu are some of those people who I truly like. I need y’all to win this shit if I don’t win it.”
Yash: “It has to be, bro. It has to be.”
Chuk: “I will be ranting on Instagram if I f—ing see it. Y’all three – one, two – how many people was that?”
Yash: “I’m losing my brain. I’m five now.”
Chuk: “Those are the people. Y’all are who I’m like, if I fall short, y’all have to win this shit. You go to the finish line. I need y’all, because there’s no way someone else should. Y’all have fought way too hard. I need someone who’s actually played the game.”
Yash: “And you know that. That’s why, bro – today, go win.”
Chuk: “Go win this.”
Yash: “And so when we left there, we were like, if you win it, everything changes. It’s complete. Everything changes.”
Yash: “Us five, we saw it.”

Chuk: “And the line thing – again, water under the bridge, move forward. We found out one of them. That’s all we needed. We needed to just know at least one. Who cares about the rest? Trying to sniff out the other is not going to be a benefit to us. At this point, it doesn’t even matter. Truly, sometimes you can’t take every battle. Some are not worth it.”

Chuk: “Dude, I had to say, wait, wait, I had to stop. Because I saw a narrative that was going and I said, this is not a f—ing narrative. Y’all are not about to do this. Not with me and Yash. Everyone knows that my people are my people. I don’t talk to much people in this house in general.”
Chuk: “As much as I love game – and I’m still a big, hey, this person might get me far game-wise – I think, that’s my dog. That’s my dog. Sometimes that’s where maybe my thing is different, where my friendships truly do matter a little bit more. Because I don’t have that many people in this house that I’m that close to.”
Yash: “Exactly.”
Chuk: “So dude, that almost pissed me off, bro.”
Yash: “Nah, don’t worry about that at all, bro. I love you, dude.”
Chuk: “I love you too, bro.”

Yash: “I gotta eat now. I gotta get some meat.”

1:44 pm Power of Veto Has begun

2:02 pm Feeds down

4:22pm Still blocked.

Big Brother 28 Alliance Map – Week 5

Where every Big Brother 28 alliance actually stands as of Saturday of Week 5, compiled from the live feeds – the named groups, the working pairs, and the deals being pitched room to room since Lala won the Wall.

Running the week

  • Lala & Taylor – the duo actually steering Week 5. Taylor’s public distance from Lala is staged – the two of them scripted it in the HOH room Saturday morning, fake Dee feud included.
  • The proposed five – Lala, Taylor and the Icons. Lala pitched it to Angela on Friday night and wants it solidified. No name yet.

Still standing

  • The Icons – Dee, Devens and Angela. The last named group still fully intact, with Dee and Devens the ride-or-die pair inside it.
  • The Jugglers – Drew and Barrett’s final two, inked in Week 2 as a rebrand of “The Kanky Boys,” complete with juggling motions and a hug.
  • Melody & Mallory – the last of the original trio, and this week literally tied together by the Adam and Eve punishment.
  • Honor Society – Angela, Dee, Taylor and Lala. The women’s four Dee floated back in Week 2. It leaked almost immediately, but it’s the clear ancestor of the five Lala is building now.
  • The Dapper Dans – Devens, Barrett, Drew and Yash. The guys’ side four from Week 2. Also leaked almost immediately. Dormant.

Cracked this week

  • Tool Shed – the eight that ran the first month: Haley, Kamu, Chuk, Dee, Devens, Angela, Barrett, Drew. Fractured by the 8-3 vote. Kamu’s verdict Friday night: it “was just the means to an end.”
  • Red Corner – the core around Kamu, Chuk and Haley. Kamu’s own accounting this week put Angela and Dee inside it too – and then he called it: “we don’t even have a Red Corner alliance anymore.”

Deals on the table

  • Kamu’s reset – told Lala on Friday the three he trusts now are Taylor, Lala and Yash.
  • Haley’s rebuild – a pact with Yash (“I got a cool name in line”), plus the four she pitched Taylor: herself, Chuk, Taylor and Yash.
  • Drew & Lala – a low-key arrangement proposed Friday afternoon. Drew is calling himself a free agent in the meantime.
  • Devens & Taylor – a mutual vouch pact from Thursday night, hours before Lala’s HOH room opened.
  • Expired – Lala and Kamu’s mutual one-week no-nomination deal. Per Lala: “That was last week. And that’s done.”

The wildcard is Yash – simultaneously in Kamu’s trusted three, Haley’s pact plans, Taylor’s “my guy” column, and Melody and Mallory’s counsel. Nobody has cut him from anything.

Compiled from the Big Brother 28 live feeds and OBB’s transcripts, current through Saturday morning of Week 5.

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Mooning

Angela (UGH) needs to go, PERIOD. Lala and Taylor have no idea what they are doing. Taylor doesn’t think Kamu would take Haley off the block. (lol)…. If Kamu doesn’t get veto will he go up? Or, will Lala/Taylor pick Deven, who for sure would use his power. Who wins veto basically decides who goes home this week

double deuce

Re:Angela. If anyone out there was on the fence about that nut job possibly being mental during her first season…BB needs to reassess their psych evaluation standards.

whywecanthavenicethings

Pretty sure that type of casting is intentional. But I don’t mind her being cast bc she is someone who despite her constant breakdowns, can take care of herself. In terms of her impact on the game or other HGs, for me that’s just BB. Many feeders love her chaos.

What I don’t like is when they cast very vulnerable types of mentally unstable HGs. It feels exploitative that after evals, the showrunners are selecting a type of HG to be triggered by some deep issues that cause a lot of turmoil like hardwired trauma responses.

I feel that is why they cast Haley. I haven’t liked her personality from the get-go. But as time went on and then with her HOH and post flip deterioration, I felt sorry for her. I wouldn’t want to know her, to work with her, to be around her in life,as I don’t want to be around toxic people. But I don’t think she’s an awful person. She needs A LOT of help, lol.

She comes off to me as a child at core who can’t get their bearings and has been floundering through life. Abandonment fears that create a victim mentality, make her either latch onto or distrust men (splitting, which is very common in BPD. I don’t think BB would take on the liability of someone with an actual personality disorder, but a fair number of people around us do have strong tendencies, including Angela).

Her inability to connect to other women her age, her cold detachment speaking up towards Rome and Jason when they were each clearly on the spot in their own duress during those house call-outs. She thinks she has to take a stand and she misses all emotional cues. Like it’s a mission for her bc of some deep rooted issues. She misreads benign people and situations as bullying. Very insecure.

I wonder is she has some core organic social disconnect that contribute to her life long coping mechanism of trying to stand up against her perceived bullies, the bad guys in her mind. That could be part of the reason she misses cues and then the social push back and ostracizing in response to her behavior then accumulates and it all cycles over and over and over.

Mooning

Haley is all about Haley, like so many women these days. They tend to invent or use personal issues to keep any conversation on or about them.

whywecanthavenicethings

Ah, sexism. Oh well, I tried. This site is fully tipped.

double deuce

And hey, for those that disagree, I understand how you feel that I’m out of line calling her mental. For those of us who watch feeds regularly, I think that only the biggest Angela fans would disagree.

baddabing

They should have cast Debbie from Survivor 32 instead of Angela. She was a few Chicken McNuggets short of a Happy Meal and, at times, a loose cannon, but at least she was entertaining.

bb4eva

Amen!

A bunch of weirdo's

Lol

Mooning

As I suspected, Kamu won veto. I am sure he will use it to take down Haley or Chuk. Pretty sure Lala and Taylor will panic and put up Deven. He’ll take himself off and most likely put up Taylor.

Bib Budders

what about the part when Angela was in the gym with them, and getting grilled by Chuk and Hayley? Lala and Taylor came to rescue her, and Angela was up in the HoH room crying her eyes out,..dammit not having Flashback anymore sucks

Buck-I-Watcher

I heard/saw some of this today but not all of it & I haven’t read this whole post but here is some points.
At 1st, I was upset that Mallory picked Melody instead of Kamu or Devens to prevent them from game talk w/ others BUT at the time, I thought they were going to be linked all week but since it’s only 48 hrs. it wouldn’t be as useful as a wk would and it would just tick off them off and probably backfire.

#1 NO MATTER WHAT, I WANT BARRETT TO STAY!!!

But I do think Haley needs to stay OVER KAMU-CHUK! Haley staying over those 2 (although Kamu can’t go this wk) is better for M&M and B&D’s game life than those 2 which would be the opposite of better, but I DON’T want her to stay over Barrett!!!

Haley: “I said, God’s got to come through” Nah, that would be Grod.
TayLor: “Because everybody kind of already sees that Kamu’s the good guy.” WHAT!!!
LaLa, Re: Chuk: “Because he really is a nice guy” I DISAGREE!!!
Lala: “I couldn’t have written this better” I think U DIDN’T WRITE IT!
LaLa: “This could not be a better script” and “I said, how perfect is that? I said, boy, talk about a plan well made” Planned-Written by Grod and delivered by TayLor to you!
Chuk: “Martin Scorsese couldn’t have wrote this better.” I wouldn’t be giving that compliment to Grod if I were you.
Chuk: “So this is how people feel on the block.” IF u make it thru, HOPEFULLEY you will see how it feels to be on the block BACK-TO-BACK WEEKS!!!!

BTW, just a reminder…Dee confessed to KAMU about her power! HIM!!!! Uhm..Not good, IMO..