Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Vinny
Nominees: Mickey, Ava, Kelley
POV Players: Vince, Mickey, Ava, Kelley, Will, Keanu
POV Winner: Mickey
Veto Ceremony: Mickey used the veto on herself and Vince put Katherine in her place.
Havenots: Will, Ashley, Morgan
7:35pm HOH room – Vinny and Lauren
Vinny – I know. That’s why it seems so backwards and everything that I’m doing right now sounds like it’s just detrimental to your game. But I promise if he watches back, it’s going to, it’s going to make way more sense than it does right now. I promise. I know right now visually it looks like I’m a f**king moron and a weasel, but I tell you, I think I think strategically this is going to pay off. And I might look like a f**king moron and I’ll have to live with myself, but every fiber in my being told me to just say f**k it. And I had a whole speech ready. Just put Rachel up. But people started saying they were going to evict Ava over Rachel at this point. Lauren – who said that? Vinny – Everybody.. Mickey, Morgan, Will. She has to be in there. She absolutely has to be in there, no matter who she’s sitting. What is the reason? Because she’s so knowledgeable in this game, and she’s going to make sure that the jury is not voting emotionally and they’re going to vote strategically for the best player of this game, which I think is bullsh*t. She’s going to sway the vote against whoever she wants because I’m sorry, because those people are playing a strategically masterful game. They want to make sure that whoever votes is voting for the person that’s strategically doing the best in the game.. Apparently. Lauren – What do you mean? Vinny – I know. And that got in my head too, because It’s like, I know it. It kind of almost sounds selfish too. But if I’m being offered some kind of deal and everyone around me is telling me that she’s guaranteed to make it to that point anyways, I might as well make this deal try to protect both of us. And when it gets to that jury point. If I don’t take it, Ashley never votes for me, Rachel never votes for me, and that’s 2 out of 4 guaranteed. Ashley is getting picked up. And placed in jury for doing sh*t.. jack sh*t. She was cast. She entered the house. Her feet didn’t even touch the ground. They just went here is a free pass. Here you go. Do nothing! Here! Play big brother! Perfect! That’s what she’s doing. Do literally do this. Do nothing. Excellent. Let’s reward you. Excellent. Well done. Now you get to pick who wins. It f**king infuriates me.
Vinny – Yeah, it’s not a good feeling having anybody hate you. I know I don’t. I don’t live this way in my normal life. Lauren – I know. Vinny – I don’t scheme. I don’t lie. I don’t backstab people. I know I have a very, very, very big moral compass, a massive conscience. Lauren – I know, I know you do. Vinny – I have a massive conscience, like oversized. I feel guilt for the most minuscule things. Lauren – yeah. Vinny – And I talked about that even in like casting, like even in the process of getting here, what’s the hardest thing that’s going to be for you? My fucking conscience, my values, what I’m trying to do, separating of trying to win a game versus dealing with real people’s lives and putting them in danger. And it’s part of the game that you have to be willing to cut ties with people. Lauren – Yeah. Vinny – That’s fucking hard.
7:53pm HOH room – Morgan and Vinny
Vinny – she (Lauren) is worried about her game. She said in the in the past three weeks, all that’s happened is Zach goes home, Rylie goes home, Kelley or Katherine are going home. That’s three allies that are all very valuable allies, and it’s just knocking one at a time. Morgan – I know there’s nothing you can do. Vinny – I know. I mean, I’m obviously responsible for this one. Morgan – Well, but to be fair, her being upset that Zach left, you were right next to him. Vinny – I know. Morgan – So sorry. I’m just like a little bit more on the tough love side when it comes to that because it’s like, Zach left, yes, but you voted for Vince to stay. Rylie left, yes. But you voted for Vince to stay. Or like, you, you voted Vince to stay. So, like, these are also choices that she’s made as well. She’s taken part in all of them. I can’t imagine how much he regrets.
Morgan – I think, I mean, I get Lauren’s upset about it but at the same time you’re not going to throw away your game for her. Vinny – I know. I know. Morgan – And she could still like, to be honest. This is the thing. This is where I don’t really feel bad. In a sense. And I say this because Ava is cool with Lauren and Katherine and Kelley. But Ava’s also cool with Will and with Ashley. She has navigated herself to still have connections in the house where her game isn’t over. Lauren has not been doing that. She doesn’t talk to Will. She hardly talks to Ashley. She scared as f**k of
Rachel. She doesn’t talk to Mickey. She barely talks to me. Like it’s no one’s fault. Vinny – I know. So you can’t feel bad, and I’m not gonna allow you to feel bad. I know you came here to win this game, Vince. I know you didn’t come here to make her game easier. These are her decisions.
Vinny – I know. Morgan – You know? Like, I know it’s really hard. And I’m not even saying that to be harsh. Like, that’s just the way the game’s been going. If she feels like it’s a personal attack, she has to kind of like, do self reflection. If you would have put up Rachel, your game would have exploded in your face. Vinny – yeah.
8:20pm – 8:31pm Hammock – Kelley and Katherine
Kelley – If you make it this week, what are your plans for next week? Would you work with Keanu or no? Katherine – I mean. I don’t fucking know if I get HOH, I’m doing whatever the f**k I want to do.
Kelley – I feel bad for Rachel’s daughter. What a role model. Katherine – I think it was funny, I mean like I guess it depends on what she’s been saying and her like sessions too, but the whole Rylie thing, like everything’s like look.. there’s a showmance. Its like that’s why like your mom and I were like isn’t that so cute. And then its like Rachel puts him on the block and he’s like.. Kelley – Mommy just broke a 23 year old’s heart. I mean there was a reason why she was not liked during her seasons. Katherine – oh yeah clearly everyone here is just a f**King idiot. Kelley – I agree. Katherine – I’ve never liked her. Kelley – and that’s why we’re on the bottom. She’s dragging Will along. Katherine – Will don’t care. Kelley – dragging Ava along. Ava don’t care. Dragging Ashley along. Ashley don’t care. Mickey thinks she’s in charge. She’s not in charge. Rachel’s in charge. Kelley – I don’t think I’ll ever forgive Vince. Katherine – I don’t think I’ll ever forgive Rachel. I can’t believe I was this close to being HOH and now I’m on the block. Kelley – you should have made a deal. Katherine – He told me after he won that I was guaranteed safe. So what the f**ks the difference when he made a deal on the wall versus he told me after he won that I was safe, either way it would have been a f**king lie. His word means nothing, he’s proven that 3 times. Katherine – I don’t want to go home Kelley. They just sent Rylie home and now I’m up.. It’s mean. Kelley – I mean they just sent Adrian home, blindsided.. and then I was up the next day for a full week, used as a weapon to get Keanu out.. The only one who voted with me aside from you and Rylie.
8:40pm HOH room – Vinny and Lauren
Vinny – I don’t know if that looks like I’m hiding from them, but I just view it as like I want to give them space to process and breathe and then talk to me when they’re ready on their terms. He was kind enough to at least give me a hug afterward, where Kelley stormed past me. I think I should try to talk to her tonight or wait till tomorrow? Lauren – Maybe you could just? If you wanted to talk to her tonight, just be like, all right, you know what I could do after I leave is I could go and I’d be like, hey, do you want to go talk to Vinny tonight or you not want to? And I could send her up. And if she doesn’t come and she doesn’t want to.. Vinny – yeah.
Lauren – so who would Mickey put up? Vinny – probably Keanu. Lauren – she would not put up Katherine. Vinny – well I don’t know.. are they cool again? Or are they close? Lauren – Katherine is like kind of making it seem like they are to save things. Vinny – who would Ava put up? Lauren – Ava wouldn’t put me up. Vinny – she would probably put me up. Will puts Keanu and me up.. and probably you or Kelley.
9pm Backyard Couches – Will, Rachel, Ava, Ashley, Katherine and Kelley are talking about past seasons of big brother.
10pm HOH room – Vinny and Katherine
Vinny – I just don’t even. I don’t know. Honestly, I’ve kind of just accepted that this is not the way that I envisioned my game going when I pictured myself playing this. And if this is the way it ends, then I have to live with it. It’s a scary thought, but it’s I’m almost so fed up and exhausted with this game because I can’t keep up with this sh*t that some of them are doing. That it makes me just like whatever happens next week, cool. I’ll live with it. And then she’ll look like the a$$hole, not me. Well, no. Not even I look like the a$$hole because I believed it. And I put a friend on the block. That’s backwards. That makes me look like an a$$hole. Katherine – on the bright side at least I don’t have to be in jury with Rachel. Vinny – you’re not going anywhere.
11:45pm Backyard – Morgan, Ashley, Mickey, Rachel, Lauren and Katherine are chatting about decorating for the holidays and other seasonal traditions.
12:15am – 12:34am Backyard – Morgan and Mickey are walking back and forth in the backyard chatting about what it will be like when they get out and have access to their phones and social media. Morgan starts talking about Zach. Morgan about Zach – We talked about everything. I was like so first and foremost, I was like, I want to kind of talk about this whole love triangle thing that exists. I was like, because I was like, was I attracted to you? Yes. I was like, did I ever come on to you? No. Mickey – Yeah. MOrgan – I don’t do all of that. I was like, I don’t know what you were saying. I was like, but I did not know about you and Lauren thing I heard it was a rumor. I asked you guys, both you guys, both of you didn’t want to show me hands. I was like, and let’s be real. You were also flirting with me. So of course I’m going to return that. I was like, however. When I realized that you and Lauren were a thing, I was like, I turned that shit off. So I backed away. So I don’t know where your thoughts were. But I need you to know that, like I’m trying to just work with you on a on a friendship player level. There is no interest here. Mickey – Exactly. Morgan – And like, let’s just leave it up because like whatever is circulating or had been circulating before was not true. It was a false narrative. Mickey – Which I agree with that.
Rachel joins them. They start studying the past events of the season..
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Vinny’s done lost his mind. He’s not making any sense, he’s making up scenarios that are non existent. He’s allowing everyone to get in his head. I mean, Ava was a better HOH. At least she made better choices; however, I still think Ashley should have went up. Mickey was controlling her HOH too. There are a lot of female bullies this season.
I agree, it’s hard to combat one bully much less 4. I didn’t like how Will even told him if he puts up Rachel or Ashley he will have a problem with him and will feel betrayed. They all suck.
People keep throwing around the bully word this season. They’re not bullys, they’re literally just playing the game. Big Brother back in the day wasn’t all this hearts and flowers, everyone vote with the house bullshit. People were cutthroat and it was great, and made for good TV!
the difference is that people drew that line in the sand like week 1 or 2. These people are bullies b/c they pretended like they were with you and then they turned on you. You think the ostracizing of Kelley isn’t bully like? This has been happening for a few years. The caliber of people they are getting is disgusting. I think Rachel said it best, these people are fake. Yep, in the early seasons you knew who you had a problem with and you didn’t disguise it. That’s what the problem is.
Rachel did say it best. Except for Mickey, they are NOT bullies. They are FAKE. Sarah was right. There have been plenty of bullies in Bb history, some quite recently. But, this season’s cast started out by making fake final2s with almost everyone else & that lends itself to a season of FAKE. Keanu was OTB more than Kelley, but he wasn’t bullied. Kelley hasn’t been bullied either, except by the schoolyard bully, Mickey. And Kelley has been the biggest instigator in the house, constantly making up lies to cause animus between & among her fellow houseguests, all the while laughing àt those whose anger she created. After each instigation, she would brag about how much trouble she was stirring up for everyone else. She was constantly lying about the others & they weren’t nice, cute lies. They were mean, vile lies. She constantly said on the feeds, to anyone who was listening, that she was there to make life tough on everyone else. The other women(again, except THE BULLY—MICKEY)have not been bullies. Rylie bullied Katherine, but, by & large, no one else. Keanu spoke loudly & harshly, multiple times to multiple women, but never to a man. Katherine spoke loudly & harshly to Ashley about Showergate, but that was not bullying. In my opinion, Sarah got it right: this is a season of FAKE, not bullying.
exactly. vince is in this spot because he played scared trying to not make enemies and in the process made no friends and thus everyone might as well be an enemy.
Can’t decide if Vinny’s a giant idiot or a giant p***y.
Why not both?
I totally disagree. The only bully is Mickey. She bullies Morgan, Ashley & Ava & she talks mean about everyone else behind their backs. Rachel hasn’t bullied anyone. Everyone she has become close with has been evicted. Maybe if she HAD bullied Lauren, she’d have scared Lauren into not using the veto & then Rylie would still be there for Katherine, Lauren, Kelley & Keanu. Vince might be gone, but those 4 would still be in a better position, gamewise. Ashley doesn’t bully. She’s just a blabbermouth who is constantly bullied by Mickey. Morgan’s not a bully. She’s just a 90 mile-an-hour non-stop jabberwocky who is constantly bullied by Mickey. Kelley’s not a bully. She’s just a wack job. Ava’s not a bully. She’s just unusual. Lauren’s not a bully. She’s just very young & indecisive. Katherine’s not a bully. She just fell into a complicated relationship & is emotionally overwrought. In summation, there is only ONE BULLY & HER NAME IS MICKEY!!!
I totally disagree. There is only one female bully. Mickey.
is he just banking on being that person each side needs so they keep him around? early game I thought he could be good at this game but the dude is a huge disappointment. Like the last 5 years of BB.
that does seem to be his strategy. with rachel in the house though that was never gonna work. she sees through that strategy and doesn’t respect it.
She’s been there & she’s seen that kind of play b4.
You need to get over it, dude. BB’s demographic changes are here to stay. They were forced upon CBS. It was either that or cancel the show with a 20 year history of white racism. It’s just like America, “rigged”. LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!
Vince
“oh that Rachel, if only she wasn’t here, I’d be playing a different game.”
“oh that Ashley, she’s going to get to jury without playing the game.”
he said this to the woman he just backstabbed… again.
Well, if only he’d had some power this week to change that.
Even Lauren ‘knows’ he’s full of shit, but she has no choice but to play along.
She does. We know.
He goes on lying and saying that Morgan and the others aren’t coming after Lauren, and if anyone did he’d use veto to save her.
What is the point. He knows she’s a target.
Just so he can whine and say, oh they betrayed me… (when it’s her that was betrayed).
There is NO point to this. Let’s say she makes jury. Jury house people share information. She’s going to learn he shit all over her and then used her HOH letter as toilet paper.
In jury house there are no cameras. She’s not going to be on her cam behavior. She’s going to be herself. And she’s going to hear he humiliated her weekly.
So what IS the point?
The number of people that take this game personally…. Vince is not going to be invited to the group chat.
Lord. He did what with their HOH letter ? What else has he done to humiliate her on a weekly basis besides betraying her week after week?
euphemistically speaking about shitting and letter as toilet paper.
what has she said since week one to Vince. She doesn’t want to leave the house looking like a fool.
What has Vince done at every single turn.
Made her look the fool.
Remember, her HOH she named her noms two minutes after cams came back.
So why the indecision? Because Vince had to throw in doubt and indecision that made her question everything because HE wanted to steer her to different noms. The nomination drama… she ended up right back where she said she was two minutes after cams came back.
Renom madness… remember, Vince was wishy washy every single talk with her and wouldn’t be definitive which I argue made her more indecisive. Then when he finally got his ass out of bed before veto ceremony? She’d already been to d/r to lock in renom.
The veto. She wasn’t going to use it. he was safe. he had the votes. then he goes again with the gotta save me what if one of them votes against me knowing NONE of them were voting against him. Then after Rachel said it was Ryle…. who convinced her it was a bluff and she HAD to save him. Vince.
I say yes, she is guarded and needs to work through things slowly and she’s always doubting herself…. but having mr. whinypants as her sounding board makes her 50x more indecisive because he’s allergic to decision making. Look at both of his HOH’s and the noms and renoms. THAT WAS VINCE… and he was the sounding board for her in the game meaning Lauren suffers Vinceitis because he’s involving himself in her decision making process and that makes them BOTH indecisive.
When tasked with a decision on who she will vote out apart from Vince she makes her decisions pretty quickly. Add Vince to the equation and all of his what ifs and whines about best for him… and she becomes MORE and MORE indecisive to match HIS indecisiveness.
And absolutely nobody sees this. The indecisiveness we see in her HOH and Veto? That comes from her sounding board infecting her with his gameplay.
And she will forever be seen as Bobblehead Barbie because of it.
A lot!
For good reason.
Vince isn’t playing anything close to Big Brother; never quite seen someone this clueless at every level of play. In fact the only thing Vince is playing is with himself.
Kat deserves to be on the block. She had an opportunity to make a deal with Vince on the wall. The way she rebuffed his attempt to even talk made clear that she had no interest in working with him. He rightfully gave little weight to her attempts to campaign for putting Rachel on the block.
Good points.
I’m watching the live feeds and I am getting so tired of Morgan getting so much airtime. She never shuts up, constantly repeats herself and the whispering is so annoying! Isn’t that against the rules btw? There are a lot of other people in the house I would much rather see and hear. Someone please kick her sorry butt out!!
As Kat and Vince talk…
if anyone is shocked by what Katherine is saying… why?
What did Jimmy say about Kat week 2. That she was a catty bitch and dgaf and he loved that about her. When they house drag race quoting reader says someone is a catty bitch… believe them.
She herself has said she is a bitch how many times? again. believe her.
Should she have been put on the cast with 3 dead family members in one year? Given how much of a pressure cooker the environment is… no.
Yea, she’s a self professed bitch. So why would anyone clutch pearls?
Is it too bitchy. probably.
Am i giving her grace because of the family thing and the growing up in abuse thing and the anxiety issues hair pulling thing? No.
I’m saying all those things contribute to her being the self professed bitch she is.
Plus… she’s been holding all of this in for a week. A full week. I’m surprised she hasn’t combusted.
Is any of her argument true. Was she promised safety as a showmance by the person that broke the promise? Yes.
That’s where her argument concerning Rachel is true.
Everything ELSE she is saying should be directed at Lauren and Vince. BUT that would be game suicide so she is getting it out… but not at the people that SHOULD hear it.
Plus, if Vince can’t take it.. maybe he should not have created the environment where every single thing negative that happens is Rachel’s fault. No. He did. For weeks on end.
To EVERYONE that would listen. And now he has to sit and listen to Kat go off for hours because he’s created the lore that Rachel is the devil… and now has to sit in hell’s third ring to witness the result. Tiny violin.
Serves him right.
Kat needs to realize that being evicted would be a good thing for her because she can be reunited with her boo thang Riley.
Hot takes.
Kat/ She’s a bitch. self professed. owns it.
Mickey. Homophobe. Takes nasty personal shots that make her also a bitch. doesn’t own it.
Now you know why one is a nope one isn’t. Ownership.