3 PART FINAL HOH
HOH Part 1 Morgan / Ashley / Vinny
HOH Part 1 Winner: Morgan
HOH Part 2: Vinny & Ashley
HOH Part 2 Winner: Ashley
HOH Part 3: Morgan & Ashley
HOH Part 3 Winner: ?
12:05 am Ashley and Morgan
They are talking about how crazy it is that people were threatening jury votes this season.
They talk about how proud Ava is going to be of them. They laugh about how Ava was begging them not to let Vince make it to the end because she didn’t want to vote for him.
Ashley – I just wish I could have won more competitions, it just sucks that I’m in the final 3 with these two people..
Morgan – at the end of the day someone here is coming out with an extra 10K which isn’t a lot but still insane. Our lives are going to skyrocket after this (no it won’t)
MOrgan claims that nobody in prehury is remembered unless you are a stand out like a Keanu or Tucker. If you are in jury EVERYONE remembers you and if you are in the top 5 EVERYONE remembers you and if you are in the top three nobody ever forgets you.
Morgan lists off the top 3 from the last three seasons. (Bam superfan)
Morgan about Ava – She left her pictures of Caleb in her bed I was SHOCKED..
Ashley – ohh wow .. maybe it’s because you get letters and pictures when you make it to jury. Rachel was saying something like that.
Morgan says she is surprise she won the endurance. “If I had lost that one I would have one this one.. you know me I read directions”
Morgan says if there’s an allstar “Call me up b1tch” adds that she would like to be a guest host where everyone is like “OH MY GOD It’s SO and SO from So and SO ”
Ashley goes on about their shock that Vinnie didn’t win the competition
Morgan says she’s got a rash. Ashley feels it ohhh wow ..
They talk about who would be a good jury. AShley thinks Lauren would be and Ryle. Morgan thinks Ryle wouldn’t be good in Jury cause he never talked game.
Morgan mentions Vinnie and how he “Crashed out” today. Feeds cut.
Morgan – I was trying to get him to calm down… Vince it’s ok you lost a comp. I knew he was spiraling
1:00 am Vince joins them.
They talk about Jimmy wanting Rachel out early. Morgan brings up telling him “Imagine what it would do have a BIG BROTHER LEGEND like Rachel in the Jury house”
Rachel heard this and thought Morgan was saying she gets to dictate who goes to jury. “I’m just telling other people who want to get rid of you to not do that”
Feeds cut. When we’re back. They talk about Rachel.
Vince cracks a Coors and sips it. They analyze how Rachel performed in the different types of competitions and talk about Kelley volunteering to be on the block week one.
Morgan – if Zae had won that first veto Kelley was going home.
They talk about Amy.. it’s general chit chat about the season. not a lot of interesting things.
They talk about Ava playing a “really great game” and she was “Throwing Hail Mary”. Conversation is essentially chit chat about the houseguests this season.
3:20 am Ashley is starting her evening 90 minute bedtime routine,
3:31 am Morgan and Vince
Going over past events this season.
Vince – My mind failed me today my Body failed the previous day that is a well rounded loser. Is it not.
M – it’s isn’t
V – IT IS I lost on both fronts.
M – do you know how hard that endurance comp is? I had 10 minutes left.. I was shaking. I was holding on to dear life. I wanted to win to an endurance competition. If I am sitting in those chairs is I am an all around player the one thing I needed to prove was endurance.
Morgan goes on giving vince praise and trying to make him see that he isn’t a loser. It doesn’t take hold.
Vince – can I ask you a question without you doing the Morgan thing
Morgan – the MOrgan thing?
Vince – shitting on your game to make mine look incredible. you are way too generous of me and way to hard of yourself.
Morgan – if I win this final HOH I can beat AShley
Morgan thinks Vince can beat her
Vince – that’s crazy is there any world Kelley’s votes for me?
Morgan – she hates me too
Vince – she hates me she wanted you out because she thought you would win. Is there any world Ava votes for me over you? no there’s not. Is there any world where Will votes for me over you?
Morgan tries to say that it all depends on the finale speech. “I’m being serious vince”
Vince – Morgan.. be realistic with me.
Vince cracks another beer.
Morgan says Will and Rachel would vote for Vince over her
vince – no . that’s f*** absurd
Vince – doi you think Keanu will vote for me. Why would Keanu would go around saying I’m a lock for second place and tell em in my face.
Morgan says the Alliance
Vince – I just game you five votes and you refuse to believe ne. I’m literally campaigning for second place now My loss today meant the game. the only chance I had at winning was if I one 5 (JOJ) and I could say something like that.
Vince I had 1 hour leed and I missed it and nothing Clicked in my dumb f****ing brain about the order. Vince goes on about how awesome Cody is)
Vince – he’s the perfect human being he’s got everything going for him.
M – and you don’t think you have everything going for you? You can stand here look at the wall and say yo don’t provide anything to this world
VInce -what the f** do I have going for myself… I have a decent mustache.. I have good intentions, I try to be a good person and human being cause that’s all I can control. I try to be a good person with all that I mean
Morgan – that’s all you have.. that’s it.
Vince – I love you you love me an i love you that
Vince names food Cody
Vince – Rachel says week one is the roughest bu
Morgan goes on about how great of a player Vince is and how impeccable his social game was.
Morgan – what will win you the game vinny?
Vinnie explains his only path to win was for him to win the final HOH and take Morgan and tell the Jury he keep the truth between morgan an himself.
Vince says he’s played a DECENT game.
Morgan – you’re a super fan right?
Vince – starting 16 .
Morgan asks who wins first hoh and makes it to the end. Vince names two but doesn’t’ remember then all.
they go back and forth about Social game.. Vince tells Morgan she’s got the best social game. It’s pretty annoying 4:30 am and they are bickering about Morgan thinking she loses to Vince because his social game is “FAR BETTER THAN MINE.. you give hope to people”
Morgan tells him to pretend she julie chen and give her his speech.
Vince says he can’t he had it all planned out if he won the final HOH but now that he lost he’ll just say that he doesn’t deserve to he did everything Morgan told him to everything the Jury thinks
back and forth back and forth… votes… social game ..
Vinnie “ZERO JURY MANAGEMENT, they f***ing hate me. they want me to lose they don’t want me to get second place.
4:42 am Vince and Morgan
Morgan is stubborn telling Vinnie he would beat her over him
Vince – “There’s no way”
Morgan says it’s because of his social game (Ohh for f&&&&cjs sake)
She goes on about this more …
Vince – my best isn’t enough to win this game.
Vince – I am campaigning for second place and if I can be runner up to my best friend than I am happy with my experience and legacy I an live with that. but getting cut at third when you are guaranteed to win 7-0 no matter what that hurts
Morgan starts to cry. they hug. Morgan is upset because she still needs to win a competition on Sunday
4:50 am they go get ready for bed to likely talk more.
5:40 pm After showering they share a long hug in the storage room
Morgan – I’m tired.. what are you grabbing?
Vince – q-tips..
Morgan – for what?
Vince – to clean my ears
Morgan – cool (She leaves)
Vince – I don’t like going to sleep when there’s water in them.
They meet in one of the big bedrooms.
Vince – Can I say something real quick?
M – yeah.. this your last pitch?
Vince laughs
M – don’t worry I don’t have my glasses on I can’t see through the bullshit
They laugh
M – that’s a good one
V – nice that was quick. I’m getting worried that everything I say to you right now is be campaigning or doing something for game.
V – I really hope you know that
M – I know, it’s just hard. I really have to focus on Sunday. it’s hard because I have a full day before where I have to like plan a speech if I am in the final two. Figure out who to take before I even win.
V – that is what I was trying to say I’m not trying to distract you I want you to focus on the competitions, your speech all of that stuff but you will also have to make a decision on the spot if you win. I believe in you I think you can win.
M – I’m terrified, I just want to win that’s all I care about now. Cause if I don’t my fate is in Ashley’s hands.
V – she’s going to take you
M – I don’t know
V – I do but don’t worry about that just focus on you winning so you get to choose. If you win that you win this whole game and I couldn’t be happier.
M – and If I don’t win all that?
V – you still win the whole game. Morgan the jury is not going to award her it’s too little too late.
M – you don’t know that
V – Yes I do, Yes I do , Yes I do , Yes I do , Yes I do ,Yes I do .. Yes I do morgan seriously stop yo win no matter what and I know you are emotional because you are on the brink of it. I’m happy for you. I’ve been rooting for you this whole season. Nobody is more deserving than you. I don’t deserve to win this game and I’m not going to I haven’t done enough and the things I did caused a lot of damage. You haven’t done any damage and you’ve won like f***ing crazy. that will be rewarded you are winning this. and you deserve it more than anybody. I’m happy to say my best friend won this game. I love you like DEEPLY you understand that?
Morgan – I love you to
V – This is not me pitching I’m telling you what I know is true that’s it. i haven’t gamed you all season long. I am not going to start now.
Vince lists off all of her accomplishments. Loyal, honest, kept morales intact, played a well rounded game winning comps, making moves and developing relationship with her “impeccable” social game.
They hug and at 6:00 am finally go to bed.
9:30 am lights on everyone sleeping
10:22 am practicing her speeches.
Sounds like she’s taking Vince if she wins the HOH. pointing she made her alliance with Vince week 2 and the judges week 6.
“I have a secret one that I kept from all of you because I was scared.. and no I’m not the accomplice”
“I am a professional video game content creator and competitor I play with the best in the world. Playing this game ”
10:36 am Vince and Morgan
Vince beating himself up for the HOH competition. Saying he just stood there for 30 minutes and let AShley beat him.
She comforts him.
11:57 am on the hammock Morgan is going over all the things people will say negatively about her game.
Morgan – I don’t have a f***Ing brain right now because we were up until 5am last night. DR ended at 1am
Vince says tonight they have to be in bed by 10 on the dot. Morgan says they both know that is not going to happen. He suggests they take a nap.
Morgan stresses about the competition. Vince starts quizzing her.
11:31 am Ashley lets the water run while she’s in the toilet. (WTF)
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On the last night they just had to stay up until 6am.. Ugh.. They bicker like a old married couple.
Prodo needs to keep the lip sedated until finale night. That dude is spiraling that reality is fast approaching and his game is done.
It must be really driving him crazy to know that cutting him would be the final major “resume” builder left in the season.
Ashley won part 2. I call bs. No way that happened without production manipulating the times.
vince’s only impressive comp wins have been his endurance wins. his other comp performances were kinda mid and he’s been actively bad at some of the puzzle comps.
Around 2-3 AM I saw this from Joker’s: “Ashley says Cody C is cute. Vince says Cody is cute and who he wants to be. Ashley says would you make out with Cody C for $10? Vince says yes, I would do it for free. Vince says Cody is his idol. He is his height , Italian, feeds cut”
Kelsey girl, if you haven’t left yet watch out because that weasel is prone to cheat on you with anyone!..
Doesn’t Cody/Derrick interview all the people? So he’s getting that kiss soon too lol.
I’ll give Vince some credit here. He knows a good looking man when he sees one, and isn’t SO toxically insecure in his sexuality than he can’t acknowledge it.
I think many couples are comprised of people with such intense celeb crushes that it’s an unspoken truth that if opportunity arose, it’s a sorry, not sorry. Facetious to a degree where that boundary depends on the individual couple. It’s just fun talk, usually not serious about it.
I’d have pushed Nancy Shevell into a pit 15 yrs ago for Paul. Or so I say…….yes, I’m married.
The Morgans are uptight and displeased at such scandalous behavior.
So your acknowledging, Vince is Gay. Obviously, we all saw the Bayou Hottie, Lauren.
Omg what woman would ever want him? Hes mentally manipulating her and Ashley. Hes pathetic and yes Vince, you’re a loser. Sunday cant get here fast enough. Im actually rooting for Ashley to win
Welcome to the shower club
So we have this insufferable final three, and then Frankie Grande shows up. Pure torture.
Frankie wants to be his sister sooooooo bad.
Not that I blame him…
I think he should be worried about her, if he’s not in denial. Something is not right.
It’s infuriating listening to vinny talk
he’s a perfect definition of a gaslighter
So is Morgan. Two narcissists.
Vinny is so NOT a narcissist. He’s the pathetic opposite of a narcissist.
Hes the subtype “vulnerable” or “covert” narcissist. He literally meets every criteria.
Vince is such an idiot…he really has no idea how much better his chances were against Keanu.
In final 5 the smartest thing for him to have done would been to throw that HOH to Keanu. Then Morgan and Ava would have went up. Morgan would have still won Veto and then her and Ashley would have voted out Ava.
This way in Final 4 Morgan would have still won Final 4 HOH and she probably would have won veto as well or Keanu could have won it. Point is that Morgan wouldn’t have been able to vote. She would have most likely won that Final 4 veto as well and would have not used it. So then Keanu and Ashley would have been on the block.
The smartest thing for Vince to have done at this point and to take control of the game would have been to vote out Ashley. This way Vince goes to Final 3 with Morgan and Keanu, two people who are guaranteed to take him to Final 2 since Morgan and Keanu weren’t going to take each other.
This would have been the best way for Vince to have positioned himself in the game and he could have used that as an argument to the jury in Final 2.
This would have made the finale so much more exciting because it would have been a toss up as to who would have won this Final HOH. There is a good chance that Keanu would have won part 1 and then Morgan part 2. So Vince could just sit back and then let them battle it out and take him to the end.
Honestly Vince’s best chances of winning would have been against Keanu because the votes would have been a toss up. Morgan and Lauren would have definitely voted for him. Kelly would have definitely voted for Keanu. The rest of the votes would have been fair game or dependent on whoever Rachel tells them all to vote for in the jury round table.
This would have made for a much more exciting finale instead of this BS finale where there is a 95% chance that Morgan is going to win. Even if Ashley did win Final HOH I dont think at this point there’s enough of an argument for her to make to win the game. Also she seems pretty loyal to Morgan so I could see her cutting Vince which just shows how stupid it was for Vince to go to Final 3 with her.
I firmly believe Vince has 0% chance to win this. His jury management is the worst since Paul Abrahamian’s.
Morgan deserves to be emotionally manipulated now by Vinny saying it would hurt so much if he gets cut at 3 when she surely wins against him. She played that same card when she took over his game on his HOH and neutralized his jury game.
I’m not keen on Vinny (used to favor him) but I completely despise Morgan and her nonsense. Let her eat the same shit she fed him and lose the game bc of it.
I already thought Vinny would win vs Ashley. After the jury segment I think he has a good shot at winning against Morgan, too.
Let’s blow it all up and let the universe reset, send Morgan’s style of emotion-driven demanding game into Lynchian deep space. Vinny is a mess but I can tolerate that much more than Morgan’s brand of toxic control.
Well said. Morgan’s toxic narcissistic control has been so triggering, that i stopped watching the live feeds and just skim through this site when it is just Morgan gaslighting and brainwashing Vinny with marathon sessions all day and night. It’s what cult leaders do to get people so exhausted that they just agree and are too afraid to go against them.
This whole season has been so triggering for me with the level of toxic players. Morgan leads that rank. Before she took the front, it was Rachel, Mickey, Jimmy. At least they left the game.
End game Jag Bowie and Matt were insufferable, but at core Jag and Bowie are decent people. Watching Jag on the first episode of Amazing Race, he and his brother are such genuinely nice guys. Matt, eh, but he’s not toxic. That trio was maddening at the time but at finale my feelings softened bc I never saw reason to truly despite them as people.
As one example of irritating stupid human behavior, vs straight up triggering.
Vinny is no different! You think he actually believes all of that talk he’s spewing about his game not being that great? No, that’s no different than him crying to not be nominated or to get off the block or to apologize for putting someone up… it’s ALL fake!!! He even said he could make himself cry. He thinks he is such a great person but he isn’t.
Very fair and accurate description of what Morgan is doing here. I don’t know if she realizes she’s doing it, but she absolutely is, and the gameplay, and general lack of self awareness dont deserve rewarding in this game.
Jury segment was extremely edited.
Rachel said what she said, it’s obvious she is giving a lot of credit to Vinny for his game, even though she thought it was too slimy. Brendan has already said that Rachel is not going to vote Ashley over either of the other two.Rachel likes active game with comp wins and social connections that are utilized for game moves. Morgan does not fit those criteria as she kept herself too isolated and actively created an adversary in Lauren and that side of the house.
Anyway if we go by edit, it’s obvious that production is setting up Vinny as the winner.
They tried that with Paul…two times..didn’t work either time
Paul is in contention for most obnoxious BB player ever. Of course he had a bitter jury. I stopped watching that season by mid-jury. He inspired hate to hate character, get out of my sight.
Brendan has said that Rachel is not voting for Ashley over Vinny. That was before Ashley won part 2. Idk if it becomes an option if Ashley wins final HOH, but that seems too little too late.
Regardless of taking down the great Morgan and separating the Vorgan, it is still lack of social/strategic influence or vulnerability (Rachel and Morgan shields) on a FULL GAME.
His expectation was very much in alignment with what Rachel was saying in jury segment and what she values in a game. Vinny has played all season while Ashley truly coasted. She is the ultimately coaster. Flip her over, under, sideways,upside down, it’s all the same. COASTER.
Vinny was coaster as well until Rachel blew up his spot to the entire house.
Vinny has a lot of game flaws, but coaster is not one of them.
It really irks me that Vinny and Morgan are having this conversation about her F2 decision which is presuming that she has a full right to her own game agency, which means she was never loyal to any F2, when her whole spiel to Vinny of Pick Me was more than implied to be a F2.
Would she say she didn’t mean it be F2? So then what does prioritize me as ally, mean to her?
It’s such BS and of course he won’t challenge her on it. I know he has to be careful not to upset her so she doesn’t use that as excuse to cut him. That just irks me more that she’s boiled their supposedly mutual alliance down to that level. We could see it as good game play except she really is that entitled in believing she has a right to play that way but Vinny (or anyone else) does not.
Vinny and Morgan have both played the guilt card, acted like victims, and behaved with entitlement many times throughout this game. They both deserve comeuppance. Does that mean Ashley deserves the win? Nah, not at all. But is what it is. This season sucked and consisted on mainly terrible players in terms of social and strategy.
I can’t decide if Vinny really is this sad, pathetic, woe-is-me, I’m a loser guy or if this is all an act so he gets his way with Morgan. He has been doing this for weeks.
Also, I feel this is payback for when Morgan was continually hounding him about Lauren night after night so even if he is doing this on purpose, she deserves it!
This is such an awful final three. At this point, one can hope that Ashley (never thought I would root for her) wins F2 and takes Vinny so she has at least a shot at winning. I don’t want Morgan or Vinny to win and I don’t even want either of them to get 2nd place, but if Ashley miraculously wins and takes Morgan, she for sure loses. Better to have a Vinny 2nd then a Morgan 1st. I will say, competition wise Morgan deserves to win but the rest of her game makes me want her to lose!
Its funny how many parallels this season is running to BB11.
Confident pretty boy opposed to the stuntcast’s side gets evicted first (Brayden/Zae)
The Stuntcast (Jessie/Rachel) is 1st in the jury house.
The athletic dude of color that essentially has no allies, takes all the blame for all drama in the house, and has to just try to fight his way to the end (Russell/Keanu)
The final four consisted of the oddball of the house (Ava/Michelle), the manipulative unthreatening guy (Kevin/Vince), the over confidant tomboy who gets way too attached to a dude too quickly (Natalie/Morgan), and the ditzy ball of sunshine (Ashley/Jordan)
Anyone else seeing this?
Could it happen again? Ditsy ball of sunshine wins????
Here’s hoping…it did cross my mind that it will be Natalie v Jordan this time, not Jordan v Kevin in the final 3…
But Jessie turned on Natalie at the end…just saying…bitter jury can be a thing. Jury management IS a thing. Has been since Danielle Reyes was robbed in BB3.
Is Morgan dumping Vinny if she wins last HOH? Sure seems like it. She’s preparing him lol.
Joe from s26 uploaded a video on his channel, talking about his depression after the show, plus suicide/self worth thoughts. How he struggled with how he was portrayed, and dealing with backstabbing people in the house. He also posted this because of the vitriol being spewed at Vince this season.
Of course, this is a serious topic and I recommend everyone watch it, but I would still love to hear users like Un Autre Nom’s thoughts on it, as he didn’t really talk about prod. influence and manipulation throughout the game for how he was portrayed, which was interesting.
Anyway, here it is – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRwiV3JyP98
Does this site keep going in the off season?
ONce upon a time we did more off season stuff and covered Canada but nowadays we focus on the US feeds. If something big goes down we’ll post it otherwise he leave it.
Ok thanks. And thanks for another season from you guys!
Yes, thank you!
If Ashley pulls out a second win, taking Morgan would be so dumb.
So it hits me, we all know none of these 3 are going down as one of the Greats who’ve played this game. And I think this is why:
In my opinion, they all 3 basically represent 1/3 of what it takes to make a well-rounded player. They are archetypes. And previous winners who also mostly fit these archetypes played the game better, despite playing an unbalanced game themselves.
Morgan is the comp beast. 5 vetoes. 2 HoH’s. The first final HOH comp. And im probably forgetting something. She’s Rachel.
Put away the M and M’s. Vinny is actually the strategist. Hes played meek, he’s cried his way out of corner after corner, and stabbed people in the back he swore loyalty to over and over. I say played because I think its all intentional. I believe this is an act hes perfected outside the house as well. Its a dirty strategy, the dirtiest in my opinion, but its precedented to get you far. Slitting your allies throats left and right got him here. Hes Andy.
Ashley is the social player. As Dr. Will said to the BB16 jury roundtable, if you got to final 3, you’ve done something right. Ashley didnt have to win comps, and her strategy was simplistic if not effective. The first half of the game she attached to the stuntcast and Will, the most beloved person in the house and/or America, shielding her from an early boot. In Top 5 shes then attached to everyone minus Keanu. She held true to her alliance and has actually been quite honest and forthright. She can claim a mostly clean and respectable game. Her jury management is superior to her remaining 2 competitors. She’s Jordan.
I don’t know how Simon and Dawg can stand listening to Vinny and his never-ending sob stories. I realize it’s just a game but Vinny’s sad sack routine is so repulsive.
I played so badly..praise me.
Kelsey may have broken up with me…what did I do wrong?
I lost a competition..I’m a loser in life.
If I don’t win, I don’t have anything to go home to.
I don’t have a job because none of them make me happy.
I went back in my word repeatedly….why are people mad at me?
Ugh. Imagine dating a guy (person) like that? If want to slap him in the face on the daily.
Is Ashley wins ill never watch Big Bother. Again . Morgan and Lauren were the best this year. I love my guy Keanu from McKinney Texas, just down the road.
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The formula for Big Brother:
Put Paramount Production Plant Ashley in danger week one to gain sympathy with audiences.
Have Paramount Production Plant Ashley align with Rachel then Keanu then Ava so no comps need to be manipulated for her to win.
At the season coming to an end have Paramount Production Plant Ashley win a major piece of competition so she has excuse to get to finale night.
On finale night Paramount Production Plant Ashley reveals all along “her” manipulative game play and tactics that should make her the winner of Big Brother 27. Keanu will get AFP. In a couple of months a press release about Kelsey and Vinny the Moocher got married still living in disappointed dad’s basement. Morgan is self involved. Kelley got her bugs. Ava is enjoying her Italian Sausage Meatball hero. Mickey still trying to cash in anyway she can and take credit for Morgan’s game play. Rachel’s brand reboot gets airplay but fizzles out. Will gets another chocolate drop because if you have a blended family once why not let it happen again. Jimmy is Jimmy and who cares. Amy learns she needs to powder her face so that forehead doesn’t shine like the sun on a farmland to feed the tomatoes. Katherine and Riley raise Riley’s love child living off his payouts from suing Paramount for slander. Katherine step mother is told to f-off because the realization of trying to get on the BBshow to have her chance to showmance with Riley was too much to join the sister wives cult of Riley. Zach,Lauren,Adrian,Zae fade because of how boring they are.
Now I know I am trying to predict the future and often fail miserably but I think this is pretty accurate. I am just surprised that off the top of my head I know the names of this shyte people who play characters just to give money to Paramount Production Plant Ashley that worked at Paramount. (Insert sound effect of The Price is Right losing horn right now)