Vinny “This is why when I tell you I love you.. you will never actually understand or believe how much.”

Quick Big Brother Spoilers

Head of Household: Morgan
Nominees: Ava & Ashley
POV Winner: Morgan
Veto Ceremony: ?

12:15am HOH room – Morgan and Vinny
Morgan – Two more nights in this room and this room is gone for good. That’s crazy.
Vinny – Do you want me to sleep downstairs so you can enjoy it? You can have it to yourself?
Morgan – Ummmm.. Maybe tomorrow.
Vinny – What happens? Let me know. I won’t be offended. I don’t care.
Morgan – I know.

1:15am HOH room – Morgan and Vinny continued..

Morgan – You can make any decision you want and it’ll change the trajectory it’ll change everything you know and it’s a lot of responsibility to not only be head of household, but also be the veto holder, because you’re the sole decider aside from the person who’s voting. It’s like. I don’t know. It’s just hard. Vinny – It really is, yeah. Morgan – Because it’s like. I feel like any of us here, even Keanu, like we all deserved to go to the end. So it’s just hard. Also, I don’t know, it’s just weird my. My brain keeps kind of like bouncing back and forth from the other night, it was like, I remember what night it was, but it was essentially when I was like remember. And I don’t know why I bounced that today again, because.

Morgan – As your HOH yeah, everything was happening and. I remember you had made some or comments like after, not like immediately after like a couple days later where you were like joking, but you were like, I swear. This is you gaining me to and I’m like. Then I was thinking like, well, is that what you’re doing? You know?
Vinny – no, I would never do that. I like the game, but I don’t. I wouldn’t do things like.
Morgan – yeah to different like extents.
Vinny – I feel really bad about it, for what it’s worth.
Morgan – Yeah
Vinny – I feel really guilty and kind of frustrated and embarrassed and.
Morgan – Yeah, kind of all those things. I am sorry, I don’t mean to get in your head with anything.
Vinny – Yeah, I know. Did it really upset you?
Morgan – It was more of just like. It’s just like when you’ve like, been through something like that
before. It’s just like you. I don’t know. I don’t know how to explain it. It’s just like you kind of
go numb for a while and then. I don’t know. I guess I just. I never In a million years would have thought that like that would have.
Vinny – Yeah.
Morgan – You know. So I was just really confused ’cause I’m like, wait, why wouldn’t like.. what’s going on? Why? Like, I just it was just a bunch of questions. Like what is what’s happening, what’s going on? Am I missing something? Like did I? Especially because of obviously it was during like your HOH Week where I was like. You know, it’s like, I don’t know. I didn’t know what to think. And it’s hard because like, we’re in an environment where we can’t really talk about it in detail.
Vinny – Yeah, there’s a lot of a lot I want to say right now.
Morgan – Because I think the only question that I initially had was if I didn’t..
Vinny – What?
Morgan – But like if you’re flirting with the line would it have been overly flirted with even just a little. You know?
Vinny – yeah. Yeah, I feel really bad. Do you hate me?
Morgan – no I don’t hate you. I just don’t understand. Because I feel like especially that week, like the only thing I, you know, obviously it was like. Life stuff like you know, affecting outside world and then. I guess everything except for how you actually felt, I guess. So it was just really confusing, ’cause I’m like, well. You know?
Vinny – Yeah. I Wish I could say more.
Morgan – It’s OK.
Vinny – Is it?


Morgan – I mean like it’s OK that you have nothing I guess to say. I can’t like force you to say anything. I want to. I just.
Vinny – Yeah. I think the environment just got to me and couldn’t say what I wanted. Umm. ’cause yeah I’m really sorry.
Morgan – I know.
Vinny – You don’t have to worry about that again, though.
Morgan – I didn’t think I would. I don’t know. Just it’s just still something that’s just. I don’t know, it’s hard not to think about it sometimes, you know.
Vinny – I feel like a bad person.
Morgan – I don’t think you’re a bad person, Vince.
Vinny – I feel like one. I wish I could say more.
Morgan – I understand
Vinny – Can we talk about it next week? If you’re ok with that?
Morgan – yeah

Morgan – Do you think Ava’s leaving tomorrow?
Vinny – Yeah
Morgan – I think tomorrow I’m going to ask the girls if they want to spend the night up here because Ava, she and Ashley, when I got the diary and they were giggling and I went in there talking about boys and Ava was like, you know, Morgan. Do you want to, like maybe spend the night in here? I was like yes. I would love to. I was like, but I’m so tired. I was going to go to bed. I was like, but tomorrow I would love to have you guys upstairs. I was like, I feel bad because Vinnie’s not a girl.
Vinny – Oh, I’ll go downstairs tomorrow. I could go tonight if you want me to. Also, it’s OK.
Morgan – This house is very lonely. I don’t. I don’t want you to have to be alone.
Vinny – Is that cool? Is what you’re thinking about today. Does it change anything with like the actual game? Or were you just thinking separately?
Morgan – Just separately. I mean the thing is if we’re calling a spade a spade, and you can beat either Ava or Ashley, and so can I. Just be frank, you know. You know.
Vinny – What do you mean?
Morgan – Like if the final three was you, Ava and Ashley, you’d be able to beat them in the final HOH. So would I, most likely. Can’t ever underestimate but the odds are favored towards those who’ve done better in endurance and memory comps.
Vinny – So do you want to get rid of me?
Morgan – I don’t want to get rid of you Vince.
Vinny – Are you going to?
Morgan – Well, to be fair, I don’t vote.
Vinny – Yeah, but you could use the veto or not. I know I could.
Morgan – But I don’t want to.
Vinny – Thank you.
Vinny – Did I ruin our friendship?
Morgan – No, I just have a lot of questions, that’s all. That if roles were reversed, if you would get rid of me.
Vinny – no, I wouldn’t. I’ve talked about that a ton.
Morgan – I know. We can talk after.
Vinny – I’m really really sorry.
Morgan – I know
Vinny – I don’t want you to think of me as some kind of like .
Morgan – Shhhh…
Vinny – I don’t think I deserve you in my life. I dont think I deserve very much.
Morgan – don’t talk like that.
Vinny – I deserve to be alone. That’s why I am so much.. I do stupid sh*t. I would never. To make you feel any certain way. I didn’t know. Do you like me.. And intentions… I don’t want to like f**k with your head or anything. Its kind of not cool especially in this area.
Morgan – I know.
Vinny – do you forgive me?
Morgan – yeah.
Vinny – you don’t have to.
Morgan – yeah. I just have questions, that’s all.
Vinny – I can answer whatever.
Morgan – that’s probably better to wait because you won’t be able to answer them.

2am – 2:20am HOH Room – Vinny and Morgan continued..
Morgan – It’s just like. It’s just hard to think that because especially like your comment today, I was like, f**king hell, man. Like Lauren would have been just as good.
Vinny – Like I don’t even know why I don’t. I don’t even remember the context, why I said that I was stupid.
Morgan – You were saying how if I wasn’t here, you would have been able to steamroll the competition, essentially, and Lauren would have been just as good.
Vinny – I don’t know why I mentioned her. I was trying to. It was more of a it was meant to be a compliment. Like you’re ..I can’t beat you. You’re so good. Like I’m just. I’d be doing good. But it was, it was very, very poorly delivered out. I don’t know why I said that. I was just kidding around. I would obviously wouldn’t want it to be any other way. Stupid. Sorry for saying that.
Morgan – Yeah, me too. That sucked.
Vinny – I’m really sorry.
Morgan – It wasn’t funny.
Vinny – And got carried away with the roasting. I was just so excited that you won. So I was like, I don’t know.
Morgan – I want to know how fast I did that.
Vinny – Morgan, do you have any doubts that if I won the final HOH that I wouldn’t take you?
Morgan – Of course I do.
Vinny – I won’t do that to you.
Morgan – I know if it was me, you and Lauren, you would have taken Lauren.
Vinny – No, you can’t say that. No, I can’t.
Mogan – you don’t know that for sure
Vinny – I do. Are you sure we’re OK?
Morgan – Yeah, just know what it would have been.
Vinny – You’re freaking me out, I feel like. I’m really sorry for ever hurting you. I’m sorry for ever hurting you. I really am. I never would have wanted to hurt your feelings or make you feel. Like second choice or anything. I think this is why when I tell you I love you, like I say, you will never actually understand or believe how much.

Morgan – are you really unemployed?
Vinny – yeah, because I always feel really lost in life. I’ve never had any like direction. I’ve never felt like I had any purpose. I’ve always had like these random, like existential crises over and over about. Like, why does everybody understand what they’re doing with their lives except me?
I’ve never had like a passion that I’m good at. I never found like, any jobs that I was good at. I was choked that I was like the world’s most mediocre person. I had a lot of like a random talents. I can just never find anything. That like fulfilled me. I didn’t know what Like felt like to be happy. That’s why I was always living in the future. I was always trying to get to this, trying to accomplish this. I thought would joke like I’ll finally be happy. If I reach a dream like anyone, big brother or something, and like you did, I did. That’s why I’m freaking out about it ending.
Morgan – Don’t be scared. Vinny – Because this is the happiest I’ve ever been in my life.
Morgan – Yeah. And there’s so much more to look forward to after this Vince.. Big Brother switches the feeds.

Morgan – Getting this far in the game does not mean that you are a failure.. you are this game. You know, and you’re not. You’re so much more than that. This is ..once Sunday comes and it hits Monday, this game is over, and it’ll be a memory that you’ll remember forever. You’ll tell your friends, family, kids, grandkids, and. You’ll be able to look back and see all the silly costumes and the things that you did and like, remember this and remember that and you’ll look at it as a game, because that’s what it is.. Vinny – yeah. Morgan – When you attach yourself so hard to something especially knowing that the outcome of it is completely out of your hands.. So don’t let it get to your head too much.

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Grrr

What the hell did I just read? Lol

Nix Pix

Im asking the same thing, wtf was that? Lol

Baddogchalet

Same! What the F are they talking about?

Carlito's Way

I think Morgan is thinking of dumping Vinny. She over-ruminates, but she is definitely considering it.

Faye

Dumping the ‘thing’ that we’re trying SO HARD to insist never started.. As soon as Vinny realized his girlfriend wasn’t sending him a video, he realized he lost her. Keanu literally spelled it out for him but nobody wanted to listen to Keanu because he spent a lot of his game being kind of arrogant, and I say that as a Keanu fan. Goddamn damn I’m so disappointed in this season and I really wish Morgan and Vinny hadn’t made the cut for houseguest selection.

wolfwoman

Morgans done using Vinnie so she’s preparing him to be dumped

Luika

Hopefully Morgan dumps Vinny live on Thursday puts him on the block to be voted out.

The Beef

Morgan can’t dump him. Only Ashley or Ava can, but you will know after the Veto meeting today, if she uses it, if that’s going to happen.

I don’t know what the heck he said about Lauren, but whatever it was, it was dumb. Sounds to me like he kicked open the door to her possibly using it, and now she wants to have a “sleepover” with the girls to talk about it.

juliesfashionfails

Wrapping herself around him while sitting on his lap in the dark on a bed, is a very uncommon method of dumping. But if so, kudos to her creativity!

Darren

I might put the entire conversation in Chatgpt and have it remove all the
“likes” then see if it makes sense

RouxDude

Vinny: I love you; Morgan: but do you have a job? That tells me everything I need to know about Morgan’s feelings towards Vinny. You’ve been used buddy.

Nix Pix

Wth did he do that he keeps asking for her forgiveness?? I don’t think this dude is going to do well outside the BB house, he may ecome a squatter in there.

juliesfashionfails

He was taking passive aggressive jabs at Morgan with his Lauren comments, saying he’d be in better position if she’d stayed.

Wade

Word. It’s hitting her now that they could actually be a thing and is having a concern if he is a provider or not.

Sucks for Vinny.

Faye

Sucks for Vinny? Dude spent the entire game struggling on which girl he wanted to take to the end. Sacrificed Lauren in the most emotional couple of live feeds leading up to her eviction. He put him self in this position with Morgan. Now he’s gonna lose because of his own decisions.

Whitney Smith

He deserves to lose!

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

If she uses the veto & let’s him be evicted, it would be the 1st thing she’s done all season that I would respect.

It would also give us all a sliver of hope that what we all want: a Snake & Weasel free final 2 could still happen.

Then all that would have to happen is for Snake to lose the final HOH. Not likely, but still possible.

It may only be a sliver of hope, but that’s better than no hope at all.

Which is what we’ll have if she doesn’t use the veto.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

I am SO sick of these two.

I just want it to be over already.

I hope I NEVER see or, especially, hear either of them ever again!

Separately, they’re each horrible.

But, together, they are absolutely intolerable.

Thank God, NOT Grod, that Survivor starts tonight & Amazing Race tomorrow!

And not a minute too soon!

Another Dixie

I just hope that the powers that be at CBS realize what duds these two are & forget they even exist when it comes to casting any of the other reality shows. It would serve them right for ruining our summer.

Jordan

May the Survivor gods be kinder to us than the bb ones

Suze

They sure couldn’t be worse.

Emilio

here’s a deeper psychological analysis of Morgan and Vinny’s personalities, along with the corresponding psychological terms:

Morgan: The Pragmatic & Strategic Mind
Psychological Personality: Morgan displays traits of a Conscientious and Emotionally Regulated Personality.

High Conscientiousness: Morgan is organized, responsible, and goal-oriented. They are meticulous in their planning, as seen in their detailed thought process about the game’s trajectory and their meticulous analysis of Vinny’s actions. They take their role as HOH and Veto winner seriously, recognizing the “lot of responsibility” that comes with it. Their focus is on efficiency and achieving their objective—winning the game.

High Emotional Regulation: Morgan is able to separate their emotions from their actions. While they admit Vinny’s comments “sucked,” they don’t let those feelings dictate their game decisions. They remain composed and analytical, even when addressing Vinny’s emotional apologies. Morgan’s ability to compartmentalize personal hurt (“just separately”) from strategic calculations (“if we’re calling a spade a spade… you can beat either Ava or Ashley”) is a key sign of emotional regulation. They are logical and rational, not impulsive.
* Strategic Thinking: This is a core part of Morgan’s personality. They are constantly “bouncing back and forth” in their brain, not in a chaotic way, but in a a focused, analytical one. They are running scenarios and “what-if” questions about Vinny’s loyalty and potential as a competitor. This proactive and forward-thinking approach is a defining trait.

In one word: Pragmatist. A pragmatist is someone who deals with things in a practical and sensible way, based on logical reasoning rather than emotional theory. Morgan’s entire approach to the game and their conversation with Vinny is pragmatic. They are focused on what is effective and what will lead to their desired outcome, even when it involves navigating complex social dynamics.

Vinny: The Emotionally Insecure & Validation-Seeking Individual

Psychological Personality: Vinny displays traits of a Neurotic and Dependent Personality.

High Neuroticism: This is the most dominant trait. Vinny is prone to experiencing negative emotions like guilt, anxiety, embarrassment, and sadness. They are highly reactive to Morgan’s questioning and immediately internalize it, leading to self-deprecating thoughts and apologies. Their feelings of being a “bad person” and the deep-seated “guilt” are textbook examples of neuroticism.

Low Self-Esteem & Insecurity: Vinny’s constant need for reassurance (“Did I ruin our friendship?,” “Do you hate me?,” “Do you forgive me?”) stems from a profound lack of self-worth. They have a core belief that they are not a good person, that they “deserve to be alone,” and that they are “unemployed” and “lost in life.” Their reliance on external validation from Morgan to feel okay is a clear sign of emotional dependency.

External Locus of Control: While they take ownership of their mistakes, Vinny also attributes their current emotional state and past failures to external factors and circumstances. They feel the “environment just got to me” and describe themselves as a victim of their own insecurities and a lack of purpose. They believe happiness is something to be “finally be happy if I reach a dream,” rather than finding it internally.

In one word: Insecure. While “neurotic” is the clinical term for their emotional state, “insecure” captures the essence of their behavior and their interactions with Morgan.

Their entire dialogue is a cry for validation and a desperate attempt to shore up a fragile sense of self-worth, all of which is triggered by Morgan’s pragmatic and logical inquiries.

Faye

Is this just a copy and paste from chat gpt..? Do we need AI to find out that Vinny is neurotic and insecure?

Emilio

Not ChatGPT that’s lame. It’s Gemini

Paul Sucks

So based on this analysis, once the game is over and Morgan no longer has a need, does she drop Vince because he is a neurotic who needs constant validation? Or is her offer of friendship (or more) genuine?

Scott

He’s getting dumped.

Another Dixie

She won’t need him anymore & he’d just be a millstone hanging around her neck.

Emilio

100%. No way she’d stay with him

The Beef

Let’s be honest. What 30-something year old woman is looking at a 34 year old unemployed man, who still lives at home with his mom and dad, as a prospective husband/partner, especially one who has shown time after time, he has no backbone to make decisions in his own best interest?

Would you want your daughter to consider being with a man like that? I know I wouldn’t!

That may sound harsh, but it’s the truth.

juliesfashionfails

There is not much that is emotionally regulated about Morgan. She spins off over and over. Obsessive repetitive rumination is a way that poorly regulated people find some sense of control. It’s fallacious as she presumes locus of control over situations that involve both others’ agency and just random universe. Stuff that no one can be in control of, which is why we need good coping skills to deal with reality.

bob

So opposites do attract?

filomina

Separate emotion from their actions lol. She literally voted out zack because she was so jealous of seeing her with Lauren. Who made you think you are some expert psycho analyst? People are hilarious these days.

filomina

High Emotional Regulation.
LMAO. Morgan voted out Zack because she was jealous of his relationship with Lauren and if she couldn’t have him no one could. Did you just wake up one day and decide you’re some expert psycho analyst?

Snoozefest

Dear god please just let it end

bbwatcher

They are both sick people.

Baddogchalet

Vinny said this is the happiest he has been in his life…ummmmmmmmm…how much crying and whining does he do outside the house??????

Faye

He’s probably saying that because his girlfriend of 7y broken up with him for cheating on television, his life revolved around his parents and spending time on ‘riding bikes’ and ‘juggling knives’ or whatever. Dudes a ZERO and I wish production had a more intense screening process, maybe a better mental health evaluation?!

Greyson

I keep wondering if Kelsey was somewhat unaware of all his manipulative moves until he was in BB and she was seeing it ON SCREEN, not directed at her. Because I don’t believe for a moment that all of his behavior we’re seeing is “just for TV”. The fake crying, the moaning about how he’s about to get hit with a consequence, the begging…urgh.

Another Dixie

I’d really like to know what Vinny was like before he went on the show. Is he really that hard up that he has to live in his parent’s basement or is he just too lazy to work so he chooses to live there because they are willing to let him. He mentioned that he tends to go from job to job. Could they actually be wealthy & he doesn’t need to work? He did go to an out of state private college which wouldn’t have been cheap. Does he have college loans he needs to pay?
I had heard that his girlfriend actually had a place to live in Arizona, alone. Could this be true?

Greyson

Or, they keep him in the backyard on a chain, like a junkyard dog.

NoMoBro

They are both slimeballs. Vince wins HoH and fills his room with pics of him and his girlfriend only to pursue a new one in the house. Then Morgan the home wrecker knowing he had a girlfriend rode him to the end destroying what was left of his seven year relationship.

Wow CBS. This is family entertainment?

juliesfashionfails

There have been feeds of HGs having sex with the lights on and barely under the covers. This has never been a family show.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Agreed.

Chelsea

Wtaf is Morgan trying to say?

Is it comments about Lauren, the game, their cheatnance??

Faye

Its all 3. If you watch the feeds Morgan says she felt confused when she rejected one of Vince’s physical advances. A few days earlier Morgan pulled Vince’s hand off of her when he was getting touchy. Morgan asks a lot of different questions during this conversation but she’s basically asking Vince why he keeps telling the cameras they have ‘just human chemistry’ when Vince is actively trying to flirt with her and confessing love. Morgan is at a fork in the road and doesn’t know how she wants to play out the rest of her game because of Vince trying to victimize himself to a final 2. He is a SLIMEBALL, but they both put eachother in this position. Morgan keeps bringing up how Vinny would have taken Lauren to the final 2 because she knows its the truth. They are both worried about ‘burning’ eachother when the damage is ALREADY DONE!

Nix Pix

She did hang all over him, long affectionate hugs and rubbing his back and arms. She led him on and mind fckd him. Now that she has gotten toward the end, she doesn’t want the feely touchy stuff.

Faye

I think the Lauren stuff got in her head and Morgan realized how shitty Vinny was in those couple of days where Vinny looked more stressed than ever deciding between Lauren and Morgan. Morgan is playing him like a fiddle.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

He deserves it.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

True.

Faye

I’m not giving this show any more of my watch time till next season.. At this point I’m rooting for Ava and Ashley. The 2 toxic love birds, I can’t wait to see how that plays out after the house. This is insanity and I am cringing at every Morgan Vinny interaction. Vinny is a helpless kitten who victimizes himself every chance he gets. Morgan is strong minded and manipulates the crap out of Vinny so kudos for her to getting to the top on his back I guess? I don’t like that her personality is being a gamer/streamer and she isn’t really either of those things. She capitalizes on her looks with modeling, stop calling yourself a gamer.. I find both to be just insufferable. I wish more thought went into picking houseguests for the show.

Scott

Vinny is such a LOSER.
Morgan’s family is going to be so embarrassed.

Faye

What I’m wondering is what’s going on behind the scenes with Vinny and his ex-girlfriend because his ex-girlfriend probably has to be in touch with his parents.. how are his parents dealing with this? All of those things are gonna spell out exactly what Vinny’s life is gonna look like after the show and it’s pretty damn pathetic. He better hope his mommy and his daddy have his back after he cheated on national television and outed himself as a knife-juggling basement dweller with no job. After Morgan keeps asking about Vinny’s employment RIGHT AFTER he said he /loves/ her.. I’m pretty sure she’s gonna stop talking to him too… Both losers

Rachel for AFP

These two are disgusting

Kelly

Agreed! It’s stomach turning to think that these horrible people will likely win. This has been one of the worst casted seasons. Delusional and a waste. CBS, you gotta do better. Slobs.

Kelly

I agree with your comment only……KEANU FOR AFP!

You Don’t Know That

When did Vince turn into a teenaged girl? Holy crap!!

Baddogchalet

Well he does straighten his hair like a teenage girl…

Nicole

Vinny is saying basically he wants Morgan when the game is over. Morgan is still jealous and still talking about Vinny almost picking Lauren over her. Morgan may win this game but maybe she should use it therapy for being obsessive.

Kirk

The FINAL 3 Game Hasn’t Been Played Yet let’s see How The End Shakes Out Vinny Wins Both Someone’s Going Away

NoMoBro

Ashley just hand washed her shirt in the sink. then after she was finished she gave it a smell test that it must have failed, because she then decided to use disinfecting wipes to wipe down her shirt inside and out. THEN stuffed the used wipe back into the container… OMG

I can’t even

NoMoBro

Hey Ashley, if you are reading this, I guess two showers a day isn’t enough when you smell that bad. Try showering after every meal.

And see your doctor. You may have a treatable medical condition.

NoMoBro

HAHAHAHA Morgan just pulled Ashley’s used wipe to wipe down the bathroom counter.

If she had used it to remove her makeup I would be dying laughing right now.

filomina

I am so glad I stopped watching weeks ago hahahaha I just checked in to see who is left and what a joke of a season.

NoMoBro

Vince’s real life girlfriend (ex) is quite good looking and far out of his league. She will look back on this one day and be thankful Morgan got that loser weasel out of her life.

I suspect her life will only improve from here. I mean what is the worst that could happen?

She meets a basement dwelling unemployed momma’s boy who clings like willnots and cries at the slightest thing?

Please… he’s Luigi from Mario Brothers (the unemployed one).

Old Guy

Has Kelsey been living with a basement dwelling unemployed momma’s boy? Does she have a job or is she also unemployed?

EricCA

The worst possible thing that could happen to Morgan just happened. She needed to.have thrown that comp. Now she will loose big brother. If she does not use it to.save Ashley she lost.Rachel, Wiill, Ashley… She already lost Lauren, Keanu and Kelly. She can’t win with just Vince or Ava.

Good, she is about to screw over Vince and not have his vote. She even looses against Vince. Both loose against Ava.

d...

it’s hard to say who wins any of the final 2 combos. the houseguests generally liked ashley and ava more but it’s super hard to have respect for either of their games, and the same’s kinda true about vince as well.

the final 2 combos are:

ashley/ava – i think ashley has this one with the judges voting for her.

ashley/vince – will and rachel are clear ashley votes. the rest in the jury would need to be pretty bitter to vote against vince. kelley and lauren did not seem bitter in exit interviews. i’ll say morgan won’t be bitter either, but hard to say. ava probably votes ashley. so it comes down to keanu who spent the entire season making excuses for vince. ultimately i think vince wins this, but it’s close.

ashley/morgan – again will and rachel are ashley-stans. otherwise maybe ashley’s social game gives her the win, but her performance in comps is so bad that i struggle to see how kelley, keanu, vince, and lauren overlook that portion of her game. ava’s vote is irrelevant.

ava/vince – this is where vince’s disloyalty probably bites him the most. ava made inroads with every member of the jury while vince baskstabbed almost all of them. i think lauren, keanu, and morgan maybe overlook that. but will and rachel feel like ava votes and i think ava did a good job building relationships with ashley and kelley as well. i don’t think it’s impossible for vince to win this final 2, but i give the edge to ava.

ava/morgan – vince is a morgan vote and i think the other judges vote with him, but there are question marks surrounding the bitterness of the jury and ava frankly having a better social game than morgan.

vince/morgan – rachel, ashley, ava, and will all feel like locks for morgan. keanu, lauren, and kelley’s votes become irrelevant.

so morgan wins any final she’s in (though her best final 2 is vs. vince and her worst is vs. ava). vince beats ashley, ashley beats ava, and ava beats vince is basically how i see it.

juliesfashionfails

Rachel has already said that although she’s rooting for Ashley, she needs to see her win some comps and step up overall. She is also going to be very proud of Morgan who was truly loyal to the Judges, won DE HOH and veto and evicted Lauren. That is very impressive to anyone who knows and respects the game.

No way is Rachel ever voting for Ava to win against anyone, not even Vinny. I think Will is too reasoned a guy to vote purely for his favorite person. I could see his vote going to Vinny and Morgan over Ava. Probably Ashley and Kelley, as well.

The Beef

I don’t see how anybody who respects the game (especially Rachel) could vote for either Ava or Ashley to win against either Morgan or Vince. What you call social game I call just getting along with people, and that’s not really social game at all. It doesn’t help you make moves (which neither one of them did outside of Ava’s one HOH, during which Zach, a non-factor went home pre-jury) and they didn’t use their friendships to help them strategically.

I could see Will voting for one of them against Vince, but he’s the only one. If the others do something like that, we’ll end up with another undeserving winner, like we did with Taylor Hale and Josh Martinez. I may not like either Morgan or Vince, but at least they deserve to win based on their game play. Ava and Ashley simply do not.

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rachel’s super petty and targeted vince all season. couple that with how vince and morgan’s bungling of the safety chain ended in her eviction, i kinda see rachel as in the anyone but those two camp. she also made crazy excuses for ashley playing well that i certainly don’t agree with, but rachel’s delusional viewpoint is what matters, not my personal feelings.

at the end of the day morgan just has that wants it so bad vibe that ultimately lost paul the game. i see her turning off a lot of jury members and not winning as handily as she likely should. this is probably a non-issue sitting next to vince, but could be against ava and ashley who can play up the fact that they’re more likeable than morgan.

modern bb is rigged

get rid of ashley please. but ava is ok as well. evict all 4 of them bb

Jordan

Now I know where to go read something if I wanna torture myself. This is like the ultimate “the person has someone trapped sitting beside them on the airplane” moment. Vince and Morgan have us all hostage and this tepid mediocre horsedoo-doo is the best they can come up with. I swear if I was tied to a chair and the person brought out a tv and threatened me with having to listen to that over and over I would tell them whatever they want immediately.

Opinion Overload

Is it just me? The stress of wanting the show to end so I can get on with my life … then I think about the jury asking questions, and I get excited!

The Beef

Seriously? They’ll ask the same generic questions they always ask. What’s your biggest move? What about that Final 2 you had with me? Why did you turn on me when we had that? They may ask Vince about Morgan running his HOH, but he’ll deny it and come up with some excuse for it. He’s had nothing but time to think about answering that question. Vince is a good liar, so I’m sure he’ll try flattering them in an attempt to get their votes, and Morgan will be all “Judges Judges Judges” trying to get those three votes, and Rachel, Will and Ashley will love that.

Vince should get Lauren and Kelley. Morgan should get Rachel, Ashley and Will. That means it will come down to Keanu and Ava. I think Ava will end up voting for Morgan, because she thinks Vince was dumb not to take her to final 3. I also think Keanu will punish Vince by voting for Morgan, although I could be wrong about that one, him being all about the “bro’s” and all. So it could be 5-2 or 4-3 but either way Morgan wins.

Jordan

Let’s have some kind of prayer session that the weasel goes this eviction somehow and the snake gets 3rd place

NoMoBro

Hey production. WTF are you doing with the feeds? They come back for 20 second bursts every 10 minutes now? I’m sick of seeing “We’ll be right back”.

There no live in these feeds

Nix Pix

When do they shut the Live feeds off completely?

Simon

Usually the morning of the finale show.

John Lepeska

Big brother should be spanked for advertising 24 hour live feed.

Vincey-Puss

Morgan can ask Vince any question she wants to, she has the Veto. Make him give some honest clear confessions to her & America or else…….the veto will be used.

GM Deb

I can promise you, if either V or M return as an “all star” or is cast on another reality show, I will most certainly not watch it. I cannot stand either one of them. Neither of them showed any humility, empathy, honor or integrity when playing BB. No humanity, only narcissistic behavior.

JTiger

Keanu about Vince: “the least trusted person on the West Coast.” ????? That was great! Vince is speculating if he’s been too forward with Morgan. Oh gee Vince…I don’t knowwww????