Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Vinny
Nominees: Mickey, Ava, Kelley
POV Players: Vince, Mickey, Ava, Kelley, Will, Keanu
POV Winner: Mickey
Veto Ceremony: Mickey used the veto on herself and Vince put Katherine in her place.
Havenots: Will, Ashley, Morgan
1:43 pm If only Vince gave his noms this amount of thought.
3:51 pm Vince and Lauren
Lauren is having trouble deciding what to do.
Vince – I don’t know what I’m doing either I was going to ask you.
L – I don’t know what anyone is doing. I feel weird talking to people. no one is talking to anyone.
V – that past few days have been quiet.. very quiet.. I’ll tell you this. I’ll tell you what I do know. I’ll tell you what I don’t know.
V – Pretty much it sounds like whoever is next to Ava is going home because you need 4 to tie. Kelley is attempting to get a fourth vote. If Katherine wins Blockbuster and she’s sitting next to Ava Kelley says she has You, Keanu, katherine and would need Morgan. But Morgan keep Ava in that scenario.
L – No matter what?
V – as of last night that is what she told me. Told tell Kelley.. keep it between us.
V – If kelley wins Blockbuster and comes down I think Katherine goes home against Ava. If katherine wins I think Kelley Probably goes home against Ava. If Ava wins that might come to a split. I don’t know what you would prefer. I’ll do what you prefer cause I’m the shithead that put us in this situation.
L – Ummm…
V – Katherine said she will never forgive Rachel. A day before she was convinced you were not using the veto so rachel was trying to safeguard herself and told Ryle and Katherine. THey are 100% safe. Guaranteed safety and that Ryle in that relationship reminds her of Brendon.. and started crying. And was like talking about all this stuff.. and then 24 hours later you use it and Rachel goes back on everything goes after Ryle. Ryle goes.
V – Katherine was saying she will never forget that and she wants to target Rachel and Mickey. Mickey is lying to her. But Mickey thinks she has Katherine in her back pocket.
L – katherine is doing a great job
V – I can almost not believe it. Mickey is very very SMUG about like… ‘I want Katherine to stay cause I can make her do… She’s go no one now. she doesn’t have Ryle now who does she have?’ lauren and Mickey that is what she is assuming ‘I’ll get her to whatever I want she will come ride with me all that good stuff.
L – I like that she thinks that though
V – Yes
Vince assume is Katherine stays and wins HOH she will do the Rachel, Mickey, Ashley noms. “If there’s still three”
V – maybe I’m a fourth renom. Ashley swear that you, katherine and Ava have a final three.
L – we don’t
L – how do I get myself out of this position I am in.
V – just this week you have to think of who is best in this game short term and long term. I think it’s smart if you hang out with Morgan more.
L – I’ve been trying to but I feel like she doesn’t like me.
V – she does she is just very skeptical because you vote to evict her so she’s like holding onto that for some reason. I’ve been like can you let that go please.
L – I just feel like shes….
V – it’s not a lost cause she can be won over.. She just wants people to talk game with her. Literally just make generalized statements you don’t even have to show your cards. (LOL Morgan is so crazed for game talk)
Lauren asks if Morgan will vote Katherine over Ava.
L – Maybe… I want to say .. she might..
L – Ava doesn’t like her right now I don’t know if she knows that.
V – I don’t think she does.
L – to be honest. As much as people see me and Katherine as a duo I Don’t think I can vote against Katherine.
V – against anybody
lauren shakes her head (WOW!!! A decision has been made… holy f*** )
V – You want katherine in the game no matter who she is up against?
L – yes
V – Morgan will vote Kelley to stay over Katherine as far as I know. She would Keep Ava over kelley.
V – AShley wants Kelley out for sure against anybody. She keeps Ava against Katherine. Rachel wants both of them out. she would keep Ava in any scenario. Will keeps Ava in andy scenari. Keanu, I actually need to talk to him today.
V – I’ll be honest with you if it came down to a tie and Ava is involved. Ava is the wierst for my game. Even though I have upset Kelley and Katherine I would rather them in this game BOTH. Ava will put me up every single time.
L – As much as I love Ava to death she is the worst for my game out of the three.
V – Agreed.. and she is going to be carried to top 5 Easy her and Will
L – I don’t think there is a way she goes this week
V – not unless one person flips.
L – I do not want to be on the wrong side of the vote again.
Keanu joins them “I’m about to go work out Bro”
Keanu – We make the decisions we make whether they are right or wrong
Vince – we live with them.
Vince – do you know what is happening TOmorrow or not?
Keanu – To my understanding. People are considering voting Ava out.
V – no shit
K – from what I understand.
V – this is going to be a long night this is breaking news.
K – from my understanding I was in the shower and MOrgan came and told me that she would be willing to vote Ava out because she’s coming after you.
K – from your perspective that is the perfect reason to break a tie. We know Katherine and Kelley are not coming after you.
V – as far as I know they have bigger targets in mind.
Vince – that would be best case scenario for me if Ava leaves.
K – Mickey also told me… we talked about it. we Don’t need two people..
Feeds cut. When we’re back
Keanu – I’m telling you BRO Katherine are not coming after you for a fact
4:09 pm Kelley and rachel
Kelley – I don’t want to ask Lauren but she’ll have to make a decision. it’s her least favorit ehting (LOL)
4:54 pm Vince, katherine and Lauren.
katherine says Kelley thinks she has 5 against Ava.
Vince doesn’t think so at best she has a tie.
Vince says if it’s Ava versus Katherine it will be a tie. otherwise Kelley is likely leaving.
5:26 pm Katherine to the Mickey
K – I’ve talked to everyone I should I feel good.
6:00 pm Rachel and Morgan working him to keep Ava
Morgan says if Katherine stays and she wins he’s going up.
Morgan – there’s not a day in this house that Mickey keeps Katherine over Ava. She is lying straight to her teeth to Katherine.
Rachel doesn’t understands why Mickey does that.
Morgan says she’s keeping Ava “Literally saved me last week and I love her gameplay and I think she’s better for this game than the other two”
Rachel and Morgan both want Ava in jury.
Vince – do you think Will is keeping Kelley over katherine?
Rachel – he’s going to do what the group decides on I don’t think he cares at this point.
Morgan says Ava wants Mickey out.
Rachel says if they get rid of Kelley it will weaken keanu’s game and she wants to
Rachel whispers about the “Judges” they can make sure nobody finds out about it.
Morgan – Will has been chilling he’s been doing the same thing. Napping. (Powerhouse)
6:22 pm
7:00 pm Ava and Rachel talking about they have 4 more weeks.
8:00 pm Katherine, Rachel and Lauren
Chit chat about being a have nots.
Chit chat about facials.
Chit chat about jankies world.
Rachel does a good job of promoting national parks. (Love national parks)
Rachel – it’s incredible
8:45 pm chit chat about kid names
8:46 pm Rachel and Katherine
Katherine says she has different considerations for who she would target.
Rachel – that is exciting to hear I did not know that.
Rachel – I would love to start building a relationship with you. Be able to grow in this game. Even though not a lot of game left there is still a lot of game left. there’s 10 of us here. It’s nice to have someone here that understand the game and I know you are logical and ummm…
Rachel wants to build a relationship with Katherine.
Katherine – I agree 100%
Rachel – ohh YEAH!
Katherine – the only thing I am going to say and it’s the same thing I’ve been saying to everybody if you can see me being more beneficial there are two extremes on the block right now.
Katherine continues to campaign to stay.
Rachel says she’s sorry “I know how hard it is to loss your showmance. from personal experience.
Katherine – it’s okay
They hug it out.
9:35 pm Ava and Will
Ava is worried and sad.
9:49 pm Rachel says she loves dad bods . A good dad bod will get any girl going.
10:14 pm Kelley and LAuren
Kelley says if she wins Blockbuster she’s keeping Katherine.
Lauren – If we keep Katherine. It’s me, you and Keanu. Maybe Morgan.
Kelley – Morgan will vote with the house
Lauren explains that Morgan is scared Ava will put Vince up.
12:15 am MEAT and Beer, Wine. CHIT CHAT.
Ashley feeds.
12:40 am Morgan makes sure to hug everyone.
1:00 am chits chat
8:47 am zzzz
Week Seven VETO EPISODE
HOH VInce
NOMS
Mickey,Ava, Kelley, KatVETO Mickey
I haven’t turned on feeds today. I am not in the mood. I figure by now they are soft waffling between Kelley out (Will, Ashley) or Kat out (Rachel, Morgan). Just a guess but it seems the way things would go yesterday.
Part of me wanted to fade out of this season at beginning of week 5.
Section One: Post Veto Ceremony
Mickey target.
Vince is playing middle and thinking of targeting Rachel as a backdoor if he has to.
Ava needs to win veto. Kelley can only rely on Kelley. Mickey is confused.
Clip from preview. Accuses Morgan. Morgan denies. Morgan is lying. Mickey is delusional.
Morgan d/r is such a lie to Morgan in the game. It’s weird.
Everyone in the bathroom was in on the nomination. lol. Ashely says Mickey is messy.
Mickey thinks she’s a nice person. I DON’T NOPE NICE PEOPLE.
Morgan is tough when it’s behind backs with Willl and Ashley.
Keanu and Rachel say Mickey is house target but could Rachel be a backdoor?
Keanu doesn’t know Vince is spineless and floater playing. after he’s screwed Keanu repeatedly.
Vince lies to Kelley. He’s trying to act like he isn’t an invertebrate.
Kelley doesn’t believe Vince.
Kat doesn’t trust Vince. She thinks she is the renom not Rachel. Lauren thinks it would be stupid if anyone else was renom. waitforit Lauren. FORESHADOW.
Mickey is talking to Vince. IT”S A FAKE TEARS FAKEOFF.
Vince promises Mickey and Kelley he’ll use veto on them. Mickey will target Vince after she wins Veto and HOH.
Section Two: Fluff and Pre-Veto Conspiracy
Will for AFP third hit. From preview 2 of episode. THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
Keanu Vince talk backdoor Rachel. Vince is now telling him what he wants to hear. Keanu would save Kelley. Keanu and Kelley conspire. Kelley trusts Keanu in d/r. sideye.
Morgan wants to know renom. Morgan wants Rachel safe. She’s all over him. He’s forced himself on to a side. Too Early to take a side.
My side will be down a person and my jury will be short a vote for me is Morgan’s real issue.
Kat mentioned as possible renom… or Rachel but Rachel is sinking into background more and more.
Vince isn’t sure about Judges alliance…. 4 people that hung out constantly and voted together…. and Vince. What’s not to trust.
Section Three: Pre-Veto.
Mickey wants to find a veto player that will use veto on her. Will is lying to Mickey.
Will doesn’t want to play Veto.
Veto Picks: Vince Mickey Kelley Ava Will Kelley picks Keanu.
Rachel would backdoor Rachel if she was one of the other houseguests.
Ava and Will conspire. Ava wants Mickey out.
Will has lied to everyone… he’s been in an alliance with Vince for four days and now he’s promising everyone the same thing. Vincitis is catchy.
Vince and Rachel talk pre-veto. Vince would not use veto. Keanu would use veto.
Vince spinelessing. Gotta stay on good side a a floater. then as a floater don’t win HOH until one side is dead. And as a good floater don’t just backstab one side… that’s bad floating.
Section Four: VETO.BB GALA ON THE GREEN. WINE TO DIE FOR
I CAN SEE AT LEAST 5 WAYS TO RIG THIS. Placement at tables determining order to go is the first one.
Ava Keanu. Ava loses. Mickey Kelley. Mickey loses. Vince Will Will trying to throw. Will loses. Keanu Will. Keanu loses. Kelley Mickey. Kelley loses.
Why is there an acting add on here?
Vince Ava. AVA OUT oh that’s why.
Kelley goes to Vince.. Vince loses. ERROR ONE
Keanu goes to Will. Will is throwing. WILL OUT ERROR TWO another acting add on.
NOBODY TARGETED MICKEY. THAT IS WHY IT’S AN ERROR.
Keanu is making an error…. big time. Vince Keanu. KEANU OUT
Kelley Mickey. KELLEY OUT.
The choice to have added acting add ons when someone is about to die…. yeah we’re looking at a prodomanip comp.
Vince Mickey.
no add on acting challenge until after Vnce dies. MICKEY WNS VETO.
Vince is going to piss people off no matter what whine.
Kat says Vince lacks spine so… she thinks she is nom but Rachel should be.
Rachel and Mickey and Morgan act happy Mickey won. Morgan is not happy.
Rachel is nervous in her veto ceremony clothes so it’s post veto ceremony d/r… hence no longer nervous.
NIGHT BEFORE VETO CEREMONY. THE VINCE STONED NIGHT. The suggested VInce, Morgan Lauren discussion. RACHEL ONLY HAS NUMBERS TO STAY IF YOUR NUMBER ONE MORGAN DOESN”T VOTE WITH YOU but hey…. let’s just gloss over that because that would mean confrontation to SAY that. And then you and Morgan couldn’t have your production authorized flirtmance that is sorta scummy given your real world situation… but she applied saying she very much wanted a showmance.
DAY BEFORE VETO CEREMONY. The Broken Telephone Gate.
Rachel / Vince: Judges. Ride with alliance. keanu bused.
Rachel / Keanu. Keanu lies.
Keanu / Vince. broken telephone.
Vince says maybe Rachel is renom because she just bused me to keanu after I bused Keanu to her. fake drama. it’s already 90% reconfigured back to norm.
Section Five: DRAMA
Birthday Say nice things about each other. WINEGATE. Rachel has been faking liking these people for weeks. Ashley doesn’t like Kelley clocking Rachel disliking fakeness.
Rachel and Kelley instigating on each other. Kelley cries in HOH room. Vince was in D/R.
Kelley and Keanu are Rachel’s number one targets. Not anymore.
Vince is indecisive. No. The choice was made during his Saturday night 2 hour d/r before his Sunday night 2.5 hour d/r where he came out high as hell.
Rachel VInce 15 minutes before Veto Ceremony. Rachel was trying to play cute. Vince faked tears. Rachel wants to work with Vince. Keanu tries to interrupt.
BECOMES A RACHEL AND KEANU BATTLE FOR LAST WORD.
Vince knew what he was going to do Saturday night. THE REST WAS FOR DRAMA.
VETO CEREMONY:
Mickey saves herself. Vince Renoms Katherine. She knew.
THEY SKIPPED:
the judges putting the screws. Will being dad mode. Lauren knowing.
THERE WERE NO REAL FORESHADOWS FOR THE BLOCKBUSTER.
Closest was A Kat d/r for renom. But that is normal not a foreshadow.
i haven’t turned on the feeds since Monday. I actually don’t miss it. Maybe i’ll get my 2nd wind on Friday but I doubt it. I’ve watched the feeds since season 2. (i didn’t have a pc during season 1). But i followed it. This is the first time I’ve been totally disappointed in the direction of this game.
I stayed up watching last night. woke up and lifed and then did pool maintenance and painted on one of four canvases currently in the works. I listened to music rather than feeds today.
Sometimes when I don’t actually like ANY of the houseguests from a strategic standpoint…. I have to touch grass for a day or two.
This especially happens when my Tinfoil Hat sense starts ringing defcon 5 level. That hit last night around 2am. Just a release from a d/r call with a changed attitude. I’ve seen it before but this one hit like a brick to the face. So either I go full on tinfoil and everyone here hates me… or i just limit myself for a day or so.
Full on tinfoil or not, NO ONE here could ever hate you!
Oh it can happen. lol. Doesn’t mean i quit writing, but the times where I lean into past experience working in tv and film on pre-production and editing…. and let that inform my Tinfoil side….
It can definitely be way TOO much, especially if I turn off my mental edit button.
Well then i’ll come clean. Most of the time I would skip your posts as they were beyond long/wordy for me. But with this season being so bad I actually read your posts and laugh a lot. For me this season was more interesting b/c of your commentary so you’ve converted me. This is going to be a shortened season for me anyway….leaving the country and will be unable to watch feeds or see the finale.
100 this week was an all time dr—call change the HOH’s attitude week. Nice production way to even tip Rachel off. Rachel saying “If I was a newbie, I would backdoor me”. This is again the DR tipping Rachel off that they are rolling the idea around. How is this great gameplay she was pissed Sunday night. Acting like a pouty child at a birthday party because of her screw up. Did Rachel call Vince in for a diary room session that lasted over 2 hours when he was going to put her on the block?
Then after that DR he came out and said Katherine was going on the block.
Tell me again how Rachel did that?
This season is just insulting everyone intelligence because their is no way all three of Rachel’s nom last week were all down to target her. To now change the tune and sing a song of how it is too soon to target. It doesn’t add up grodner.
Katherine and Lauren had a point in the wine room with Keanu. Rachel nominates three people then magically a few days later they all don’t wanna go after her and say it’s too soon. After rachel has been on a near dozen reality shows.
Katherine DR in episode——
“Rachel HAS TO GO!”
And the next thing you know,
Katherine is On the block.
Coincidence? I think not…
Shame on production black listing houseguests that mention Rachel’s name for nomination when most of the outsiders only get one shot at this.
Rachel Stan’s You like rigged entertainment? Well you probably are a fan of professional wrestling too.
The Rachel gossip girls are the nerd herd , Pauls 19 minions , and NBK alliance all over again. This is one of the most dreadful seasons ever. Rachel Stan’s cheering for a girls scout troop ending is like watching two bald men fight over a comb.
Ashley with her drama is one to talk about messy. She is so cringe. Vince is such a weasel for sucking up to Rachel after she’s been after him the whole game. Rachel said about Vince. He’s indecisive.
Katherine diary room session as she got nominated- it’s dumb and illogical. I agree Katherine.
I still to this point don’t believe that Mickey rolled a 38. That whole thing was sketchy. Similar to how Ashley is life long friends with Hannah Chada along Morgan and Rachel having connections with her.
How Rachel wasn’t nominated is -BS this week. Even Rachel knew she messed up but she failed upwards because Vince betrayed 5 people at once that actually had his back. Production and your voodoo magic— — can’t stand you. No reason for Rachel to not be on the block.
Vince played himself handing rachel’s mean girls his HOH and the majority numbers to take this game. Katherine or Kelley, I hope you put Vince on the block and kick him out for effectively ruining this season for grodners boy George stuntcast. Ashley, Mickey, and Morgan you can leave too.
Remember, this is all pre jury. Vince has the votes but he is just too scared. I think all the talk about wanting Rachel in jury may just be for the drama and tv aspect. I do not believe she is going to win but I do think she will pull some manipulative moves to get her person to win.
After Katherine’s family contacted the Producers concerned about how abusive he was on the feeds, Rylie was done. They don’t even allow him to do media interviews
thought of will winning americas favorite makes me want to vomit sure will would be a grodner hand choice like space cowboy
I can’t with this veto competition, the absolute stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. Im embarrassed to even watch this bullshit!
Agreed
Collectively this cast is competing to be among the dumbest, with Keanu and Kelley being outstanding in their field of stupidity.
Yes, that was hard to watch
i think i’m done this season
#1 It’s a crap shoot. #2 Their so called “random draws” are probably not random at all. #3 The players “picks” weren’t logical whatsoever, especially in the second round when everybody but Will’s target didn’t get picked to play, and Will wasn’t one of the pickers, so Mickey gets a “by” to the next round. That’s complete horseshat.
Keanu almost tackled Vince to keep him from engaging with Mickey in the semi-final round, and tries to explain it by saying he’s protecting Vince from revealing who his target is? All this after Vince had clearly already revealed he was walking straight to Mickey, so if there was any damage, it was already done. Keanu will never be invited to join Mensa.
Plus he himself should have gone after Mickey earlier when he took on Will. If Will wins, at least there’s a chance he doesn’t use it, but everybody knows Mickey definitely will and did.
This was literally the best veto comp ever now that I have seen what it was
Poor Ava overheard Lauren
Let me guess (not on feeds about to do some work)
Lauren talked with someone in the bedroom and said it might be a tie if it is Ava and Katherine?
Ava was on break but awake in her bunk?
Not about a tie but about making sure Ava goes home
Bwahaha…. you mean my guess was that close? Oh man. A day off feeds and I’m still pretty good at predicting these people’s behavior.
Just reminds us what we already knew: you know your BB!
Since Big Brother Started, This is the worst Big Brother EVER!!! Vince who cannot see the FIRE through the Bushes and CLEARLY see the Game for what it is.. Rachel just makes me sick.. She thinks she’s all that but not even close.. I guess if you have to threaten people with fear the whole way through to gain their votes then, so be it.. She has absolutely no Integrity.. Play the Game and not the People.. It’s one thing to B.S. People but another to treat People with disdain.. Just my Opinion but, a REAL CLOWN.. Should of been one of the 1st People voted out…?
Agree 100%. My sister recently passed and she loved Big Brother. I can hear her screaming “play the darn game”! This has to the weakest cast ever!
When Rachel became a houseguest this season I was agast, I knew she’d make sure everyone cowtowd to her. But that’s just the beginning; she’s proven to be the nastiest, meanest, rudest, most condescending & bitchiest person imaginable. Tonight she was the worst, such a screwed-up ego !! She treats people like effing shit, that’s probably not what BB producers had in mind but that’s what they got. How in the world can she show her face in public when this season is over is beyond me. If her family isn’t embarrassed they ought to be.
)I’ll gladly accept any down-votes I get, but this is how I feel).
Oh hi Rylie. How are you enjoying all the rain in Oklahoma?
the most unoriginal rebuttal ever seen john
She has been pretty bad. I can’t see how these guests are so blinded by her name and not seeing her for what she is. Last night with Keanu in the HOH should have tipped Vince off that she is coo coo and should not stay.
You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. I would agree with every word in your post: IF you simply replaced Rachel’s name with Mickey’s!
not that this is a top tier season. it isn’t. but 13, 15, and 19 were all worse imo.
This season parallels 19. The stuntcast Rachel has been insufferable. After last nights episode. How anyone can cheer for her or her Girl Scout troop this season is beyond me. She has alliances with everybody and acts so sanctimonious holier than thou. Which is infuriating and hypocritical when she is always at the center of the drama being the catalyst of all these catty situations. Her petty gossip girls just cultivate drama that makes you feel like you are in high school.
The houseguest couldn’t even vote her out first — —- Thanks a lot production.
“Play the game not the people.” Rob, that is the best quote ever about Rachel’s style of play. She is so vile.
I’m thinking that Rachel is The Mastermind from the start.
One has to question WHY Vinny watches Rachel throw her 3-year-old tantrum about ‘allowing’ Keanu to talk to Vinny and Vin Weasel NEVER stops to think how manipulative and aggressive that is by Rachel. NONE of the Kumbaya Krowd seem to see the real Rachel. Has Rachel become some sort of magical beast from Hogwarts that can pull the wool over EVERYONE?!?
No, it’s all production. I do believe as Rachel said in that wine room, it’s the 25th anniversary of BB and they don’t bring her back to get sent home or jury. This is the most obvious production interference IMO.
That’s what she said. Maybe not what production said or meant.
Why does Vince lie about things he doesn’t need to lie about?
if it is to a nominee it’s because he has to make them all think he’d keep them in case they win blockbuster.
If it is a day ending in y…. because he has to keep his (in his mind) middle position even if the lie is irrelevant.
Some people lie just to lie… It’s how they feel important, it’s compulsive behavior. I’ve worked with several people like that and it blew my mind. They can lie straight to your face even though you know for a fact they are lying.
Hey, if the present can and get away with it, why not a BB player?
Because he’s an idiot and a fool who can’t think past his nose.
He is the biggest weasel. This guy is spineless, he lives at home with his mom and has no job!!! I cant wait to see him walk out the door and Im sure it will happen soon.
I hope Kelly or Katherine wins the BB tomorrow, and Ava is voted out. It’s nothing personal against Ava, but I would like to see the game shift a little bit. It’s becoming boring and predictable. I know that likely would never happen, but I can hope! Vince is too spineless to break a tie, and Lauren already admitted she doesn’t want to be on the wrong side of the vote.
Sadly I hope for the same. I really do like Ava and would hate to see her go, but that would shake it up for sure.
I don’t see that happening. They’ve got 5 votes locked and loaded for Ava to stay, and the people talking about Morgan flipping (Vince, Lauren and Kelley I think) are just kidding themselves. Ava has Will, Mickey, Ashley, Rachel and Morgan on lock to vote to keep her.
I’d be shocked if that changes.
I have a terrible confession to make. It shames me to say it. I like Ashley. No, let me clarify, I don’t like Ashley as a person, however, for the past week or so I like how she pokes instigates undermines and annoys Mickey and Morgan. If I were to NOPE anyone it would be Mickey, she is a _____(insert your own descriptor here)____, I wish nothing but the worst for her in this game. As for Morgan, her non-stop talking would make me want to self-evict. Ashley interrupting and disagreeing with Morgan’s M&M game talk gave me joy. These little victories are all I have left to sustain me. As for Ashley, she can be a Nope that follows Mickey right out that door.
I read somewhere Ashley is a good friend of Hannah Chada’s, which would explain how she knows what buttons to press. If that’s the case, it’s pregaming and I think it’s what bothers me about Ashley. I hope someone here can clarify it that’s true.
Ashley and Hannah are real life friends. They applied together for bb23. Ashley was in the casting hold pile until this year. Hannah also knows Morgan through mutual friends. Hannah also did a podcast with Rachel.
That alone is reason enough to nope a win for her.
This comment wins for the day!
These people are all over the place, I don’t know who the hell to believe, Vince could have made this such an easy week, if he would have put Rachel. Mickey & Ashley up on the block.
I’m totally lost on who is actually working with who ? I’m happy to hear that Katherine is not buying Mickey or Rachel’s BS. I’m pulling for Mickey or Rachel to leave next week.
I hope tomorrow, Katherine stays, I don’t care if Ava or Kelly go home, I want Katherine to stay, I think Katherine will put Mickey, Rachel possibly Vince up, or switch Vince out and put Mickey, Rachel & Ashley up.
Then I hope Katherine wins the Veto, does not use it. Leaves Rachel, Mickey, Ashley or possibly Vince on the Block.
The blockbuster comp plays out on Thursday night, Mickey and Rachel are still on the block, they send Mickey home, we don’t have to listen to her lying, and saying how much she loves everyone, Mickey’s butt gets evicted next week if Katherine is the HOH.
Then when Katherine’s HOH is over, can’t believe I’m saying this, Let Keanu or Kelly win HOH, If Kelly wins HOH, I think she will put up Rachel, Vince maybe Morgan, Keanu should not win HOH, he does not want to put Rachel up, he wants someone else to do it for him.
i hope next week is more entertaining then this past week, I can’t take listening to Morgan who has not won a damn comp, Morgan annoys the hell out of me, her and Vince.
Hoping tings turn around and these people actually start making some interesting moves, stop playing like a bunch of spineless idiots, this is making this season a total snooze fest.
Who’s working with who? Keanu is only working with Vinny because he does not work with women and apparently Will is too old so it’s just Vinny. Ashley and Will seem to be the only ones genuinely working together. Morgan is working with Vinny in the sense that he is the only one willing to endlessly listen to her game talk. Lauren seems to think she is working with Vinny but in reality he is working everyone rather than working with anyone.
To truly be working together 2 or more people have to have some level of trust and open communication in which their agendas align. The closest I have seen of that is between Will and Ashley. For the rest it is either one sided or non-existent.
Will & Ava also qualify by your stated requirements.
True, but I haven’t seen enough of their convos to know Will’s side, is Ava just his backup after Ashley?
I agree!
If Rachel unleashed the Rachel of old onto this house, I just might like her.
With all of the nasty comments about her here, it’s refreshing to see an accurate assessment of her in your post. Imagine how batshitcrazy all of the anti-Rachel-army would go if she did unleash the “Rachel of old”? Instead, even though the anti-Rachel crazies can’t see it, 40-year-old-mother-of-two Rachel is much quieter, more mellow, is much less confrontational & has far fewer outbursts than 25-year-old Rachel did. Personally, I may be the only one, but I prefer this Rachel to the younger Rachel. Just as “Tennis Anyone” is entitled to their opinion, I am entitled to mine. I don’t anticipate anyone supporting me, but that’s ok. It’s still a free country, for now.
Truly spine-chilling to be amongst the Rachel cultists applauding her atrocious behavior. Much more balanced here.
I never liked her behavior in her 2 previous seasons but with this group of players I’d like to see her go old school on their asses.
That’s fine, but the way some people defend her childish antics is like that sister in the family who you know is going to get easily triggered and go on a passive aggressive childish display at the table, there she is at it again. The super toxic one that people tiptoe around, but sometimes things bubble up and then she turns the narrative to gaslight everyone as if she was the victim after someone says: Did you just see how she was acting when Joe said x to Peter?
She’s a practiced seasoned toxic personality, and that sort of behavior is absolutely horrendous for children to observe and internalize.
I’m not sure if this is true for everyone, but longtime viewers like me who have watched every season from day 1 see the show through the good ole’ days lens. Its the same with Survivor, and The Challenge. Even when Rachel does questionable things, our perspective is shaped as much by the show’s history as by what’s happening now, which can make us a bit more forgiving. Whether you love her or hate her, she’s here for a reason and I believe she has more fans than not.
I agree completely.
Ava being voted out would make this week a success.
Word.
Question, why is everyone mad at Mickey? She’s playing the game. Is she nice about it? No! No one is mad at Rachel who has threatened almost everyone in the house. Keanu who did threatened everyone in the house and no one is mad at him. Everyone is playing their own nasty game, even Will (Mr Nice). What is the difference?
In my opinion, nasty gameplay is fair game, nasty comments and behavior that are personal in nature, are just nasty.
And THAT is the difference!
for me the first strike was strategic. Not that she stole the HOH. That was a positive move for her game. How she ran her HOH and her choices…. so bad for her game. The fact that the bad strategic moves continued for at least a week after her HOH with the behavioral issues…
That had her precipice of a nope rating from me because it was such a net loss to her game from a strategic point of view that i couldn’t see how she could call it successful.
Then.
Add to that her… choice comments and attitude about her target in her eviction week. It was not good.
Add to that consistently bringing a houseguests kids into her flexes. Leave the kids alone.
Add making fun of Lauren’s lisp was… stupid. Telling Ava (in an alliance with Mickey at the time) that if she won HOH again, Ava would be a pawn. Strategic stupidity from an egomaniac.
The worst part… she doesn’t think she said or did anything wrong.
So strategically i almost noped her for HOW she handled her HOH.
Then she got personally nasty about houseguests. not game nasty, personal.
Add those together and I noped her and I would a million times more.
I agree. She won HOH, but the way she ran it made it feel like a loss. Nasty piece of work.
To be fair, Rylie “won” the HOH. Mickey STOLE the HOH.
And anyone who can’t see why “un autre nom” noped Mickey either hasn’t been watching closely enough to see all of her horrible behavior(perhaps a non-feed-watcher), or must be a close personal friend or family member of Mickey.
About to crash, will check for answer tomorrow.
This week progressively all indications were Morgan and Vince would be going at it by sometime tonight. ARE THEY YET?
Shush. the mance thing is right there. Grod needs a fill in for her lost grossmance. By next week she’ll kill the flat iron so Vince has to be curly.
I’m no prude. Far far far from it. Like not at all.
Do have a few… suggestions.
Vince if you are going to flirt for strategy, flirt when you actually need something. You are in power right now. She needs you more than you need her this week. So… this isn’t for game.
Morgan, if you are going to be respectful of his seven year relationship… get the hell out from under the blankets in his bed. In fact, get your crazy ass off his bed completely. THAT is how you respect his relationship.
They can’t have it both ways. Well they could have, but they already evicted a lot of the people that would have joined in a slop pile and the uncomfortable search for their underwear at 4am.
So… to repeat the question…
Are they whoring yet?
Don’t normalize this! The times I have seen her with him it is like how she was with Zach. She’s practically Gollum and Vince is The Ring
Not normailizing. lol. At one point I was a bartender for weddings. She is that one bridesmaid at EVERY wedding. You know the one.
Unfortunately, we do.
Vinny is not going to cross the physical line. He has said he and his GF laid down ground rules about close female allies. Most likely, they agreed that sleepovers are okay.
Having said that, his GF would have been thinking of a less enmeshed relationship like he has with Lauren, say.
So it could be he’s crossed the emotional cheating line.
I’m not sure he has GIVEN that of himself to Morgan, but she is giving that emotional crush bond of her soul to Vinny, and he is complicit in that regard.
I do think he’s way in deeper emotionally in terms of how he feels about her, than he realizes.
It is super messy for sure.
Dr Kirby crossed the line emotionally with Janelle. He was essentially courting her by that point late in the game, and she was eating it up. “You’re such a pretty pretty pretty pretty girl”, hand twirl her in space, pure carnal energy. He and his GF had to work things out afterwards about it.
because I’m easing back in today by checking socials before feeds because i have too much on my schedule today to go deep feed today….
There is a message from Vince’s fam/friends to leave them out of the Vince Morgan drama.
Not to you, but to anyone reading with an urge: Never ever ever @ family when you have an opinion on a houseguest.
it’s not cool. at. all.
If the fam/friends post something…. That’s the end of the discussion.
To that end:
Vince gf says flirting for strategy was NOT okay’d. They had an extensive conversation about boundaries.
Summation:
I am now exiting the vince / morgan thing because it was a joke to begin with… i hate showmances and the amount of attention they get in a season.
I’m not sure how valid this is, but I did read an article stating his girlfriend is pissed about him & Morgan.
However, Vince ain’t no Dr. Will, he’s not even on the same planet! And Morgan ain’t no Janelle, she’s not even from the same galaxy. She’s from a galaxy far far away!
People who keep saying this show is the worst, just remember the seasons of the past. With Rachel back, trying to shake up all the koombaya nonsense, it still isn’t enough for some. The show is making moves with Derek and BR too. Be careful what you wish for.
From your lips to Grod’s ears!
I know what I’m about to say might have some folks shaking their heads in disbelief (or maybe astonishment), but I still believe Vince will either win this game or make it to the Final 3. He’s playing a strong, middle-of-the-road game—even among players who aren’t fooled by his over-the-top “who, me?” act.
When he cam talked last night, he admitted he needs to win more comps (true), and he’s fully capable of that. At the same time, he’s continuing his lies and social game, which is just as important. Vince knows Rachel would target him if she had the chance—but he also knows other houseguests would take a shot at her too. What makes Vince smart is that he doesn’t necessarily want to take her out himself. Not because he’s afraid, but because he’s skilled enough to manipulate others into doing the “dirty work” for him such Lauren or Morgan and most certainly the cruel sisters: Kelly and Mickey.
He still has Lauren, who’s a solid comp player and continues to see him as her #1. He’s got Morgan, whose ego he knows how to stroke just right. And then there’s Keanu—Vince thinks he has Keanu, Keanu thinks he has Vince, and both of them believe they’re fooling the other.
That said, I’ll be honest—this has been a disappointing season overall. The cast feels lackluster, with very little genuine humor or to have fun amongst themselves, just occasional sparks here and there. I’m also not surprised that once again the theme of the house (the Mystery Hotel) hasn’t really played much of a role in the game. Maybe it will show up in the closing weeks, but so far, it’s been mostly cosmetic.
For the first time in a long while, I don’t think I’ll be voting for anyone as AFP. If I had to guess, the frontrunners will probably be Will, Ava, Keanu (though why, I don’t know—he’s kindhearted, yes, but he dislikes women and has played a hot mess of a game), and maybe even Rachel. Honestly, I’m floored by how many people believe Rachel will win or come close to winning. She won’t. While she delivers what her fans want and what CBS loves to showcase, she’s not the comp beast she once was—that’s why she surrounds herself with strong players to shield her, and with social players like Ashley (and to some extent Morgan) to help smooth things over.
So yeah, while Vince’s moves may look dimwitted on the surface, I actually think they’re calculated. He’s a lot sharper than people give him credit for, and not someone to be underestimated.
I completely agree on all points!
On a personal level I so wanted Rachel to go up as renom. But on a strategic one, he made the right move. As he said, he wasn’t sure had the votes to get her evicted.
I do think his emotional appeal to Rachel right before the renom actually did work on her. She was in a more humble mood bc her life was on the line, and she seemed to understand that he was understandably nervous about their very new alliance after she’d nominated him last week. She seemed motherly sympathetic, lol. I don’t think she’s going back on that for next week except maybe Vinnay as a renom. But he can definitely play that wounded, I trusted you bc you said you’re always loyal, guilt card.
As for the HGs, yeah, boring. It’s why production did rpeat of the Will bit. I know some feeders ate it up, but I could care less and find him pretty dull. Certainly not worth two episodes, you can seevthat production has nothing fun in the cast to go off on.
I wonder if that bread bit with Adrian was set up by production. He showed no such personality leading up to that.
As much as I disagree with many of your points, I write to commend you on the forcefulness & cogency with which you make them. Bravo!
Rylie exit interviews are starting to come out.
Don’t bother if you want to know Rylie’s thoughts on the game.
They are quite obviously answers from a PR crisis management team member.
The questions were emailed to him, there have been no actual interviews.
Not kidding.
Complete waste of time.
Not surprising. Probably best, from his family’s perspective.
Please please get rid of Morgan!!!! She is insufferable. I couldn’t even watch last nights episode because the last thing I want to watch is Vince the weasel, Morgan telling everyone what to do and Rachel just being a BITCH!! I really hope Keanu or Katherine win HOH if she is still there.
Amen. The only ones that I care to do anything in that house are Keanu, Katherine, Lauren, and Kelley. Those 4 FTW. Keanu AFP. To the rest of them there is nothing redeemable and I can’t wait to see them evicted. They all are just being played by production and their stuntcast failing upwards. It makes me sick to even see Cliffton get a favorable edit in the show pushing him as AFP? When he hasn’t done s**t this season but be worthless, complain, and coast. Just exemplifies the problems this season. Rachel’s gossip girls are petty, jealous, and just plain gross. Morgan is getting more and more jealous of Lauren by the day. Messy Ashley is so full of it and just displays projection left and right. Vince that weasel is just as responsible for this train wreck season as stuntcasts boy George’s mean girls are.
Keanu winning HOH would be monumental. Hoping thoughts and prayers work.
Drinking coffee.
checked some ap accounts that are… somewhat without bias to see what i missed overnight.
Biggest red flag:
Morgan and Vince decide after LONG deliberation that Kelley has to go.
Morgan goes to d/r.
Morgan comes out crying and saying they have to keep Kelley.
mmhmmm.
riiiight.
Added overnight d/r monkeybusiness.
Vince has been firm that Kelley has to go.
D/R call
Vince immediately after says to Morgan it’s good if Kelley stays.
Okay. I’m glad i took the day off yesterday.
THAT RIGHT THERE is what gets me riled up.
We’ve just WATCHED 2 d/r calls and 2 immediate attitude changes the night before an eviction vote.
Do what you’re going to do production… just don’t make it obvious. And THAT was obvious.
Kat leaving? What ap accounts? Where are you seeing all of these d/r calls?
Last Thursday after Rylie’s eviction while feeds were down before the wall i analyzed and compared old school storylining to new school storylining and came to the conclusion that Kat would be evicted next because she had only 28 d/r in 6 weeks.
She had zero feed inclusion for weeks unless it was with Rylie. She told Ava that she is only there in the house as Rylie’s plus one. She told Ava she’d be happy next friday (insinuating when she is out of the house). Noms had not been made.
Aps that I look at in the morning to see if I missed anything are of the tweet or skeet variety. The people i check? not saying.
d/r calls on feeds are what i check for in relation to attitude shifts.
When I checked one of the people i look at for impartial relation of events… they had in their posts after leaving the d/r in both cases for Morgan and Vince’s attitude changes.
Since when does Morgan or Vince get a ten minute d/r call. Vince’s have been over 2 hours all weekend…. so I’m calling bs on the short calls as anything but prodo pushing and agenda.
This just goes to show how players play the game and how viewers view the game needs to be through the lens of treating production as if they are the 17th or in this case the 18th player in the house. Houseguests who want to make it far or win need that ‘player’ as an ally rather than an enemy. This is why I give Vinny some leeway for this past week, it was strategic if you view it this way rather than cowardly and stupid if you view this game as straight forward.
while i agree allying with production is generally beneficial to one’s game, being an ally to production doesn’t always mean blindly doing what production says. derrick and dan were masters of hearing what production was saying and twisting it to something that still benefitted them. derrick very strategically voting out donnie and frankie grande despite production wanting them both to stay and dan using production to bounce ideas off of before ultimately orchestrating dan’s funeral and convincing production to help sway frank and his allies to go along with dan’s scheme.
Production is this season’s biggest problem. If they would’ve just let the “Reality Show” cast be real, we might’ve had a better season. It certainly would’ve been more spontaneous & less scripted. That alone would’ve been an improvement.
Even before Kat and Rylie, Kat was cut out of feeds.
What we knew from ep. 1 was Ashley blamed Kat for showergate and Kat did not care about showergate. After that we did not know that Kat and Lauren were playing the game with Jimmy. We did not hear a single conversation until Jimmy was HOH.
On feeds a week or so ago, one of the guys said Kat and Rylie didn’t even speak week one. So… any gaming she did was invisible on feeds even before the showmance.
This has been a disappointing week. I don’t care who goes, whether Kat or Kelley lose the block at this point is no loss. Kat has spent this season as Rylie’s woman, what a waste! While Kelly has spent the season as a looney tunes character.
Preview for Blockbuster
using flexible guide pieces, roll a ball down a maze into the box at the end.
Think the dx comp from bb23 that he reverse engineered from the bottom to the top to win.
With Mickey, I’ve never seen someone blink so much or talk so fast in my life. I think she thinks if she talks fast they will all turn into Will and just agree with everything she says. But the blinking drives me absolutely crazy. And I just want her to be so shocked when they vote her out because she thinks this game is all hers and she is all deserving!
Hey Mickey, Hey Morgan:
SUCK IT. Kelly won the blockbuster.
The feeds Kelly: mean girl, psycho statements; passive aggressive, victim noises; cry baby…. “ hug me!”
The “ show” Kelly: lovey-dovey, huggey-wuggy, team player, the casuals pitying the sweet homely girl