Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Vinny
Nominees: Mickey, Ava, Kelley
POV Players: Vince, Mickey, Ava, Kelley, Will, Keanu
POV Winner: Mickey
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: Will, Ashley, Morgan
4:20pm HOH room – Lauren and Vinny
Vinny – we should have sent Ashley home instead of Adrian. There’s so many things we should have done just to eliminate one more number from them. But again, I’m contradicting what I just said. We can’t think that way and we can’t.. Lauren – But if Ava comes down. Why does Morgan not want Rachel out? Vinny – I don’t know. I don’t know. Lauren – I cannot understand her way of thinking… almost ever. Vinny – it was infuriating me. I wish you could see it. I was going to pull my hair out. Everyone is just saying it’s too soon. It’s too soon. She’s guaranteed safe. It’s too soon and the only way to get her out.. Lauren – why is it too soon? Vinny – I don’t. I don’t know. Lauren – what do you mean? She said she either wants to be out pre-jury or final two and that’s exactly what’s gonna happen and that is what is going to happen. She is going to go to the end and she’s going to win. She’s going to be the 1st two time winner. Vinny – and we’re going to look like an idiot of a cast. Lauren – Yeah, yeah we will. That’s exactly what’s going to happen. Vinny – that’s embarrassing, but all of these people who she has as a shield, who say they’ll take a shot at her, are also protecting her right now. Lauren – But are they really going to take a shot at her? Vinny – They f**king if they’re not dumb, they will. So far, we haven’t proven otherwise. Lauren – Well I wanted to take a shot at her. You wanted to take? If we don’t do it this week, then that’s two people who said they would that didn’t. Vinny – And we look dumb too. I’m just being like, I feel like, yeah, I want to take the shot, but it’s like somebody’s it’s not like I might miss it’s like they’re removing the target entirely and I’m just shooting at bales of hay.
4:35pm Gym – Kenau and Vinny
Keanu pushes for Vinny to put up Will. Keanu – There’s a lot of people who would not evict Rachel. That’s why I’m giving you the alternative. Vinny – I know, I know. Keanu – Right, because if you don’t put Ashley up and you don’t put Rachel up, they can’t really be upset at you. But then you also don’t lose a number in Katherine that votes in the direction of the
sh*t that you want. Like think about if the the people that you would send home in a perfect situation, think about the people that would vote for them to leave. Vinny – I still don’t know. Just so you know where I stand. I have no idea what I’m doing yet. Keanu – No, I know. Vinny – I’m not leaning one way or the other. I’m literally just. Keanu – I don’t think you should have a decision necessarily. Maybe should have like a general idea. Vinny – I’m gonna make my decision. Keanu – You can’t be like Lauren, bro. Vinny – No. You will know my decision by tonight. And I will stick with that. Keanu – and I’ll stand by you no matter what you want to do. Vinny – I know you will and I appreciate men. Keanu – For the record. Like no matter what we don’t, we don’t have a choice. We don’t have a choice. But I think honestly like in my opinion, the move right now to upset the least amount of people, I think is honestly just take shot at Will.
4:50pm On the stairs / Gym – Keanu and Katherine.
Katherine – I f**king hate it here. I think he is going to nominate me. Keanu takes Katherine to the gym. Keanu explains how he just talked to Vinny and was pushing for him to put up Will. Keanu – he has three options aside from you. And low key Ava is a competitor. The only person in this house that is content to coast by is Will. Ava at least has the desire to win. She does bad, you know. Katherine – Yeah I completely agree. Keanu – I hope he doesn’t f**king put you up. That would be very bad for for his game. My game. Lauren’s game, Kelley’s game, obviously your game. Because that just basically guarantees that either you or Kelley goes home.
4:55pm – 5:12pm HOH room – Vince and Katherine
Katherine – F**king Rachel keeps looking at me and f**king laughing because she is convinced I’m going up. Absolutely f**king convinced. And she’s asked me three times today. Are you doing okay? Shut up! She’s pissing me off even more because I’m like, dude, what the f**k?
I guarantee you, Vince, if you don’t put me up there, I’m not putting you on the f**king block. And I will protect you at all costs. I believe that. I mean it. Vinny – I know you mean what you say. That’s why you and Rylie connected. Katherine – I absolutely mean it. And all of your other considerations have already proven their word does not mean sh*t. You are not safe with them. Even if they say it, you will 100 percent be safe with me. Vinny – Yeah. And I’m telling me by myself, am more of a competitor than half of them. Vince – Yeah, you’ve done very well. You just haven’t had to. Katherine – Yeah. I’m more of a competitor. Lauren has proven it and had the opportunity as well. She is more of a competitor. You yourself are more of a competitor. Keanu is more of a competitor and Kelly is more of a competitor. Yes, they do have the opportunity right now of continuing to control it even if you put
one of them up, but at the end of the day. If you ever want to get back, if I am up there, if Keanu, I’m going to say Keanu. If me or Keanu are up there as your renom, I don’t know if you can take yourself back out of that. Dude, I’m not kidding. If she’s up there, I think a lot of people are going to be re-evaluating what they think about her being in this game if she doesn’t. F**king take it, Vince. Because she’s also people’s biggest competitor on the social side. Everyone keeps telling me that they’re gonna keep her. They’re not dude. Why would you? If she’s there. If she’s f**king sitting there, so counting she’s going home because they already know that. Me, Kelly, Keanu and f**king Lauren are guaranteed to vote her out. What does that take? That’s a f**king tie. One more person. Vince – I break a tie. I break a tie. Katherine – In this case, if there’s 4, no sh*t. If she’s sitting on that couch, she’s almost guaranteed to go home and someone is going to switch their vote. At least one person that is way too good of an opportunity to not take. Vince – yeah.
Vinny – do I just f**king do it and say it is what it is. Katherine – On Thursday when you became HOH, you had noms in mind and if you were gonna do a 4th nom then it was potentially
backdooring Rachel. And I think that’s a decision you came to. You were high off your win, you felt powerful and now people are talking so much sh*t to your face and behind your back and manipulating the f**k out of you that you’re changing the decision that you made three
f**king days ago, Vince. You knew what you wanted to do and they’re capitalizing on the fact that it’s been days of separation. Vinny – Yep. Katherine – And they’re freaking you out and they have multiple days to do it. Vince – Yep. Katherine – and to sweeten the pot I will also guarantee to not go after Morgan… obviously I would prioritize you over her. I think Keanu’s suggestion is dumb. Vince – I’m not going to put Will up, that’s pointless. Katherine – literally pointless, don’t do that.
Big brother gave them pool floaties..
5:30pm HOH room – Morgan breaks out the m&m’s for Vinny…
5:40pm Big Brother gives the houseguests wine, beer and other things for Lauren’s birthday.
5:50pm – 6:50pm HOH room – Keanu, Vince and Kelley
Vince – If I say f**k it and I blow it all up.. and throw Rachel up there tomorrow. Even if she stays, the same people are coming after me. Kelley – that’s what I was going to tell you. Vince – and if she asks for reasons because she is trying to build trust with me and she tells me no one would ever see us working together.. Kelley – the same sh*t that’s she’s told me. Vince – Can I tell her that you told Kelley the same exact thing? Kelley – have at her. F**K it! Vince – you’re already on the block but if you get fired up to win Blockbuster, then we can send her home. Kelley – I’m fired up to win Blockbuster. I told you. Vince – we can send her home. Keanu – the only way she goes home is if you win. Vince – all we need is four and the tie, and I break that tie. More satisfaction on me. I just can’t trust her. I can’t trust her. She’s told me things and she’s told Kelley the same thing, she tells other people the same thing. And if I go out next week at least I will be known as the guy that took a big shot as a posed to the guy who let Rachel and Ashley take over my HOH. Keanu – but also Vince, you’re insulated. Vince – from who? Keanu – from us, Like you won’t go home depending. We’ve already established Morgan is not good for your game. She is f**king your sh*t up. If they think of you as a duo and put you up next to her … me, Kelley, Katherine, Lauren would all keep you over her and that’s all you need, those four votes. Kelley – look at Laurens HOH, she did what they wanted and put up Adrian instead of Ashley. Did they ever have her back again? Keanu – nope! Kelley – not one time. If you think putting up Katherine will save you one more week, you’re wrong. You will NOT be safe next week. Vince – I know it might be the wrong timing but I just feel like I’ll look like an absolute fool if I don’t at least do it for the f**k of it for nothing else. Keanu – I told you what she told me about putting Rylie up, if you have a chance to take a shot at a big target you take it. Vince – that’s right! I don’t know if I will ever win HOH again. Keanu – We’re just taking her advice and who better to take advice from than somebody who’s already won the game. Vince – If I do this, I’m gonna think all night about a good speech. Keanu – own it dude! YO, VINCE, NOW WE’RE PLAYING BIG BROTHER YO! NOW WE’RE PLAYING BIG BROTHER. YO we can’t be scared bro! We’re going to have to start taking shots. What is this the season of kumbaya!? Get the f**k out of here. Everyone wants to be buddies and sh*t all season long! Its not going to happen! When are we going to start turning on each other. Vince – when its final five?! Keanu – Here hold this knife in my back!! Vince – also, Rachel has wanted me out for 7 weeks now and she somehow convinces me to work with her for two weeks and everyone seems to want her in jury .. Say she goes into jury, you don’t think she would campaign twice as hard to make sure I don’t win, right?! Keanu – Lauren and Katherine right after Rylie just went home, they said its amazing that she hasn’t sat on the block.. if she makes it into final 2 they said they would vote for her. That’s two out of four bro! Vince – that’s half way there and then you win. She is also a guarantee for America’s Favourite. People love her. You’re not going to be America’s hated.. Two people that are favorited to win right now are her (Rachel) and Mickey. And if you take her out right now .. I don’t know man.. you want to talk about building your resume!? Kelley – at least taking the shot! Vince – at least it will show I’m not playing scared.
Keanu – Don’t run that by Morgan. Don’t do it. Because the first thing she’s going to do is try to talk you off, talk you away from doing it because it’s not in her best interest.
7:30pm All the houseguests sit down to a pizza birthday dinner for Lauren. They go around the table saying nice things about the person they’re sitting next to.
8:25pm Havenot Room – Rache, Morgan and Ashley 8
Ashley to Rachel – Kelley is already trying to spin it that you were mad that Vince was getting compliments. She (Kelley) said it at the table, in front of all five of us. Rachel – What did she say? Ashley – She said…Did you see how Rachel drank the wine when you were getting compliments, Vince? Rachel – Is that f**king joke?
8:35pm Lounge Room – Vince and Rachel
Rachel – In relation to which apparently I was mad that you were getting compliments and I poured wine during your compliments. Vinny – Oh yeah, someone said you were yeah, you’re looking very nervous and were like, oh, I need another glass of wine for this nonsense. Rachel – I took another glass of wine because I couldn’t listen to these people giving fake compliments anymore. Vince – I know, that’s what I figured. I mean, I didn’t take any offence to it. Rachel – I stole the whiteclaw because I didn’t want Kelly to have it. It has nothing to do with anything but me being a petty bitch. Honest to God. I think that they’re just trying to cause some drama because they don’t want Catherine on the block. But don’t make a silly mistake. Vince – Oh, I know I’m on your side. Rachel – I don’t care about because I’m pouring wine. I couldn’t care less about all their drama and all what they’re doing. Stick to the plan. Stick to the alliance. But yeah, sure, let’s make good TV, right? But like, if she if I’d be happy to go confront Kelley, but I’m not going to, because.. Vince – no, no. Rachel – there’s no point. But honest to God, the fact that she even said that out loud is. Vince – Did you hear her say herself? Rachel – No, I didn’t have to.. Ashley was right there. I heard it from Morgan. Vince – OK. Yeah, I know. Morgan’s feeling very, very stressed out right now everything.
8:38pm Lounge – Vince and Rachel
Feeds switch to them mid conversation. Rachel – That is crazy. Vince – That’s why I was like I don’t think she would not want to be involved in final decision making process if she worked in the final two to be on the jury. Rachel – Yeah, because at the end of the day I’m always going to vote logically. I’m always going to convince people to vote for the Better Big Brother player. Not who deserves the money, not who f**king did whatever made me upset. I couldn’t careless. This is my 3rd time playing Big Brother. I’m going to vote for the better Big Brother player. That’s my job. It’s literally.. this is my job. Vince – Yeah, it is. Rachel – I take my job seriously. Vince – Yeah. Rachel – I’ve done this for fifteen years. I’ve been on a single reality show every fifteen years. I have never voted emotionally. I have never done anything to upset the game. This is literally my job. If I am on the jury, I am going to vote logically and I’m going to tell and make sure that everyone on that jury votes for the best Big Brother player, not for the person who deserves the money or, you know, piss people off the least. Vince – no. Rachel – This is Big Brother. This is the 25th anniversary. I need to be involved in that. Vince – Yeah. Rachel – They didn’t bring me here for me to go home pre-jury. Vince – No. Rachel – Like, let’s ride to Final 5. Vince – I know. I feel good about it. Rachel – I know Morgan wants to talk to us. Vince – What? Rachel – She’s getting frustrated because we haven’t gotten a chance to talk one on one. Don’t let
Kelley poison your brain. She’s crazy. She is a psycho. She’s cuckoo. Vince – No, no. Rachel – Like, actually, I think they’re.
9pm Backyard – Keanu and Lauren
Keanu – The only other option is basically, I mean, obviously expect the unexpected, you don’t know what the competition is going to be, but obviously you know Kelley’s got the blockbusters. So the only other option would be to put Will up and kind of like give her the best chance to win the blockbuster, but then Will or Ava goes home and I would rather have them here than Rachel. In terms of like competitiveness? So that’s the that’s the little conundrum we’re in right now.
10pm Backyard Hammock – Ashley, Rachel, Kelley, Mickey and Will are all sitting around chatting about random things. They’re talking about slop recipes.
10:10pm HOH room – Kelley is crying.
Kelley calls Keanu up to talk to him. Keanu – what happened? What did she do? Kelley – She’s (Rachel) so mean. I’ve never talked to that way. Keanu – what did she do? Kelley – I went over to hang out with them in the hammock and she said this spots taken Kelley, you can’t sit here with us. As we sat down, we came over to hang out with Will, Mickey and Morgan and it just got so much worse. And then we went to hug everyone goodnight.. I hugged her and she’s like I don’t want a hug. I said I don’t know what I did to you? And she’s like, you didn’t do anything to me Kelley. I said is it because I won’t clean and she said Yes, its because you won’t clean. She is so mean!
HOH room – Mickey and Will joins Kelley
Mickey – What’s wrong? What it? Kelley – I don’t know. I just. I don’t get talked to like that ever so. When I first told my mom that I was coming on Big Brother, she was like aren’t they mean on that show? You can’t handle when people are mean to you. And so maybe she was right. Mickey – What happened with you guys? Kelley – I don’t know. I have no clue. I have no clue. Will – That spiraled like very quickly. Mickey – I mean, did y’all have any beef before? Kelley – no. I don’t know what I did. Maybe it was something at dinner? Mickey – Probably just to go to sleep. Kelley – but yeah, I wanted to talk to Vinnie before I went to bed. Mickey – Just get some rest. Kelley – Yeah. Mickey – I mean, it would be amazing if you and Rachel had a conversation, but if you’re not willing to mentally to have a conversation. Kelley – yeah. Mickey – Just get some rest. Kelley – I do wish I knew what I did, but. Mickey – Did you try to ask her and talk about it? Kelley – I mean, that interaction was it. That’s been everything. She tried to come up here, but. I didn’t want to talk yet. I don’t want her to see me cry. Mickey – Yeah, I definitely think you should try to get some rest. What happened? Kelley – I was coming over to you guys and I tried to sit and she said you can’t sit on the hammock. There’s not enough room for you on the hammock. Mickey – Oh, I didn’t hear that. Kelley – And then when I was talking about your cookbook and it was like season 27 cookbook, she said Rachel’s cookbook, not season 27. And then A couple more digs. And then at the very end I went to hug her and she’s like, I don’t want to hug. Maybe I am reading too much into it. I don’tm think I’m not reading too much into it. I’m not going to say that. Mickey – Well, I would say get some rest. Kelley – I’m not sure I want to involve you guys either. Mickey – No, I mean, we just want to at least check with you, make sure you’re OK. Kelley – Yeah, thanks. Will – There’s no involvement. Mickey – You guys will figure it out.
10:50pm Kitchen – Morgan and Will
Morgan – I’m not going to lie to you, it is very convenient that a narrative is being spun the night before noms like for real. Will – exactly. That’s what I’m saying. Its so small. Morgan – You spun a narrative about her. I would be. I wouldn’t be nice either. I wouldn’t be friendly. I don’t know. This is just getting too, too drama for me. I don’t like drama. I mean, Kelley did say something, so it’s not like she didn’t say anything. It’s not like she just stood there and did nothing. A narrative can’t be spun without it without starting somewhere. Will – Absolutely.
11:10pm Backyard Hammock – Rachel, Mickey, Ava and Will
Rachel – I’m so tired of the fake niceness and the fake compliments and the fake what they love about you and stuff. That was. I was gonna barf. That made me want to bark. Mickey – It made me cringe. I looked at you with that too. Rachel – That’s why. Yeah, ’cause I’m like what are we doing here? What are we doing? I’m like, most of you guys would put people up in here. Like, what are you talking about? Like, you’ve been talking sh*t about each other. If they had a real knife, they would stab you in the back with an actual real knife. MIckey – Agree with it. Rachel – Like Keanu, if you won HOH today and you could evict me immediately. You would evict me? Like, what are you talking about? Like, you were literally the main person who was in Vince’s ear about me going on the block. I’m not dumb. And I hope that I stay and win HOH so I can personally get to evict… I would have a celebration. I wish I had a power right now, that I could put them both on the block and get them way at the same f**king time. Will – I know that would be amazing. Rachel – I wish America would give us America’s power. Mickey – I know we need a power. Rachel – America, i’ve seen the light of day. Give me a power. Like give me something so I can put them both up.
11:15pm – 11:25pm Bedroom – Will and Ava
Will tells Ava how the whole drama started between Kelley and Rachel “Winegate”. Ava – I can’t help laugh that I started all of this. (Getting everyone to say nice things about each other.) Ava – I will say that I saw her pour the wine. Will – how did it look? Ava – it looked a little shady. Of course, I’m on the block. I can’t be the reason for “winegate”! Will – I am going to go to sleep because I am tired of 9 year old problems. Ava – It’s like funny drama. Like you can’t even manufacture this stuff. I know what game this is. Will – It’s not a game I watch on television. Ava – Now my dumba$$ is going to be like, we should all go around and say one nice thing about the person next to us. Will – I know. It’s all your fault. Ava – What are we all going to do? Sit in fucking silence? I’m like, I’m trying to. It was silent. It was silent. It was a very awkward meal. That’s why I was trying to at least do something nice. I’m. I’m a teacher by profession, so group work is something that.. Will – we don’t have to do all the family dinners no more. Ava – It was her birthday, Will. Will – I know. But it was fake. It was fake. Well, obviously it was fake. We had a whole winegate situation. Ava – I didn’t think it was fake.
11:55pm Backyard couches – Mickey, Rachel and Ashley
Mickey – But I mean, again, everything happens for a reason. I am thinking that he is going to do the right thing. OK. I’m hoping I’m manifesting. Ashley – we just need to be the last one to talk to him tonight and then tomorrow. Morgan needs to be the last one to talk to him. Rachel – He’s like working overtime for no reason to get me up there. Ashley – Yes, definitely. Rachel – to get me up there, definitely he’s working overtime to put me on the block, when I was not ever going to put him on the block. Ashley – I just pray Kelley goes home. She’s been spreading nonsense since week one.
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What a f***ing Kraken move Vince did.. fu**k him. Keanu for the win.
WHAT A F***ING WIMP LOSER!!! I am now rooting for Kneau, Katherine or Kelly!! Ugh despicable wimp!!!!
Experiencing a major Kraken moment and can’t even buy damn Kraken in my country cause 1/2 of America wants to invade us.
I know. I’m sorry! Well at least Kneau is letting Vinnie have it. He is making me feel better.
cheer for lauren as well because she really got screwed hard by this guy too. Team Lauren, Keanu, Katherine or Kelly all the way!
it’s expected. he’s been dismantling his own side with cowardice as his strategy since week 3.
His comeuppence will occur relatively soon and he’s playing a zero jury vote game if he ever makes it. He doesn’t have anyone in jury that can explain his moves as his own, and nobody would buy it in finale jury questioning.
Vince just made a terrible decision and completely screwed over the other side by not putting Rachel up. The only explanation I can see is production stepping in to protect her. She’s been pushing for a backdoor for weeks and even messed up badly last night after nominations—how is she still not on the block? This is the weakest move I have ever seen. VINCE has burned lauren kelley and keanu 3 + plus times! This guy Vince is such a douche and an F for how he tanked all of their games. It wasnt the younger people fault that it was vince screwing them over from the start! It aint right. I feel so sorry for Lauren, kelley, keanu, and katherine.
Vince game is appeasement. once his big bad enemy rachel knew she was a potential nom he went appeasement mode: if i keep you off you have to keep me safe. That was the object all along.
I can’t feel sympathy for the crayon crew. why? They all know he’s a liar and he’s been backstabbing them for weeks. They all talked about knowing this… and yet. They keep going back for more. At some point you have to develop survivor instinct.
They don’t have any other choice man. What are they going to do play with peach gobler? NO. Play with the stuntcast rachel who is triple dipping and made a judges alliance? NO. There was real logic in having that 6 work and it could have worked if vince had just voted medusa morgan out who is a jealous snake woman with rachels hand puppetering her. He just had to vote her out and he could have thrown that damn hoh to lauren or Katherine to take that shot at rachel side!
What VINCE has done is an all time betrayal to that side and it made no sense at all. There is zero logic to this man. He is throwing 3 final 2’s away to the wolves with almost 12 people left!
Vince would have been arguably in the best spot of a 6 person alliance that was loyal to him and he would have had 3 final 2’s with. Just to throw that away for rachels (BS judges alliance) band of misfits that will stab vince with rachel co.s having a couple of parachutes in ava or mickey who more than likely gain back up to take vince 5th spot in that. The math aint mathing man and those 5 got completely screwed over by this weasel tanking them in a manner of only 5 days. It is not a test it is a BETRAYAL.
I say this as someone who enjoys your conversation and input, because you are always spot on the money. But this time it just isn’t clicking. Rachel made a total rookie mistake and blunder last night that should have been worthy of a nomination. Vince is literally pulling an all time bad idiocy card ala Kalia did with rachel in week 5 bb13!
Team kelley, lauren, katherine and keanu all the way SIMON! We need to cheer on this 4 if not the 3 after this thursday because it kills me to say KAT OR KELLEY leave this week.
We have to cheer for those 4 simon. They are the actual ones to not write rachel and her band of minions a check. Vince is fully responsible for 3 people leaving that was on his side fully not targeting him but rachel!
VINCE has f***ed them ROYALLY! He is a total F for what he has done to those 4! It makes no sense why rachel is not up! Lauren literally used veto on him and ogt dumped on by rachel and her side. When rachel wanted him backdoored for a month. Medusa Morgan just insults lauren non stop because of jealousy. Vince is such a scumbag and a spinless weasel for doing this to her and the others. It was always vince tanking them !
Keanu, Katherine and Ava are fast becoming about the only ones left in there that I can stand Simon. I like Will, but he hasn’t done a damn thing as far as game is concerned.
I’ve got a 3 way dead heat tie on who I want to go home next week between Mickey, Rachel and Vince. They all suck.
You can follow that up with a 4 way dead heat between Morgan, Ashley, Lauren and Kelley, all pretty much useless as far as game play goes, with 3 of them thinking they’re playing at strategic genius level, and the 4th unable to make a decision to save her own life.
That only leaves Ava and Will, one of which sleeps 16 hours a day and the other who’s next move will be his first, and Katherine and Keanu, neither of which are stellar players. Kat at least seems to grasp what’s going on, not that Rylie has left, and I’d like to see what she can do without him hanging onto her, so of course Vinny noms her. Keanu is fun to watch, but doesn’t have any reading ability whatsoever, as far as social game goes.
Where all the good BB players at?
Not saying kelley, keanu, Lauren, and katherine are great players. But they are way overly criticized and arent nearly as deserving of the insults they get. For one they are not trying protect the stuntcast and want her out. It is not their fault that vince is likely one of the greatest weasels to ever to step foot in that house.
Vince has a final 2 with three of these people brother and he just burned them all for a 3rd time- throwing them to the wolves when there is dozen people left. Vince ducking on rachel time after time and screwing over the players that genuinely had his best interest wanting vinny in the end.
For vinny to pull this stunt and screw over a 6 person alliance that he would have been maybe in the best spot of with 3 final 2’s for rachel bullshit judges alliance that she made up to save her ass when vince is at the bottom of the 5 with logically mickey or ava taking his 5th spot. This was not just one of the dumbest moves in HOH history but it is a BETRAYAL. What vinny has done last 5 days is an epic betrayal to all 4 of these people. 5 if you count rylie. He has plummeted their games after they went to bat for him and wanted to protect him until the end.
You cannot support Cliffton with his peach gobler game or any of these other women that are bending over backwards for rachel.
It has to be team kelley, keanu, Lauren, and katherine all the way.
wow. what terrible play. vince is really fighting to go down as one of the worst players.
He is the worst.
I hope they stab him in the back next week.
JETSSA
Just
End
The
Stupid
Season
Already!!!
As expected Weaselinny continues playing the middle
Let’s hope he leaves in a double
Vince is a useless, spineless idiot. What a waste of a renom. He’s clearly too scared to actually play the game. If Rachel is allowed to coast the end and win I think I might be done with Big Brother. The last few seasons have been major disappointments and this one might just be the worst yet.
Puts up and gets Zae out. Votes out Adrian and Rylie causing both to leave then puts Katherine and Kelly on the block. He’s made this season suck so far
I’m hoping Mickey votes out Ava and forces a tie and Vince finally does the correct move and evicts Ava
We all KNEW he’d make a mess of his HOH !!!!
He continues to prove he’s a foolish idiot.
For once, I agree with Lauren. Yes, if you don’t get Rachel out, she will win! And all of this cast will look stupid for letting her get there. If Rachel is sitting in the final, she honestly deserves to win over anyone else.
Vince has literally betrayed everyone in the younger alliance. Lauren has literally had her game tank so hard because of this guy screwing her over after she just saved his ass for Rachel ? After Rachel just put him up and has wanted him out for a month????
Vince is a snake and a weasel if he doesn’t put up Rachel’s side !
It’s almost sad how badly vince has betrayed Kelley, Lauren, and Katherine— they deserve better. Lauren doesn’t deserve near the criticism she gets with this guy snaking her. She wants a final 2 with Vince and he just throwing her to the wolves when there is about a dozen people left in the house while just decimating Lauren’s final 4 &5 plans.He is a d!ck if Katherine goes up.
He is a dick. PERIOD.
HE JUST CONFIRMED NOMMING KAT! F vince and rachels puppets of smack talk. This nomination made no freaking sense! Vince could have been in the middle or prime spot of a 6 person alliance with the younger people. But he just throws that away to be at the bottom of 5 for rachel who just nominated him and wanted to backdoor him for a MONTH!? I do not understand this at all. It begs whether or not there was production manipulation. Anybody who is not Team kelley, lauren, katherine and keanu all the way. I do not get you nor care what you have to say because you rep rachel side who are a bunch sh!t talking jealous double standard snakes that make you feel like you are back in high school.
Lauren deserved better after vince has blown up her final 4, 5, and 6 in a matter of 5 days. After rachels gaffe last night. How the F is RACHEL NOT UP? BS
Not all bad game play is a product of production. Rachel getting immunity week one was production butting in. Vince is so bad at this game he may actually win it all.
Notice how katherine mentioned rachel wins in final 2 and is on the block. Notice how zae wanted rachel out. Notice how adrain had the same feeling and left. What about kelley who wants rachel out after rach. voted her out. Do you see how all of them are either out or up shit creek right now all for not writing Rachel another CHECK.
Rachel is a stuntcast. Big Brother is about ratings. Production sure as hell doesn’t want the melodramatic high school queen to go out prejury. If you are Vince. When somebody wants you backdoored for a month and just nominated you. But you decide to duck yet again and dismantle your allies yet again for the 3rd if not the 4th time. IT defies any stupidity or logic that is involved in Big Brother not to go after rachel or anyone on her side just to bone the half that genuinely had his best interest and would have been insulated with 3 final 2’s.
For sure? That would be the worst move ever because even he knows he is on the bottom with any Rachel alliance. In fact, Rachel will put him up next week no matter if she is on the block now or not at all..
I knew it ! VINCE IS SUCH AN F! This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen and this guy freaking spinless weasel that has completely screwed over Lauren and Kelley. I feel sorry for even keanu after vince had full ammunition to target rachel after her major rookie game blunder last night! This is total BS and I cannot believe what I am witnessing. Either vince is the biggest weasel ever that screwed over those younger girls or production is in his ear to protect the stuntcast either way I dont like it. I call BS- there is no way rachel should not be up. HER GAFFE RED FLAG VINCE. Lauren doesn’t deserve the criticism she gets because this guy is one of the biggest weasels to ever be on BB he totally screwed her! Team kelley, lauren, katherine and keanu all the way until the wheels fall off because this is total dr BS!
But, but, this cast IS stupid!
Y’all know of course that Rachel is playing every single houseguest for a sucker for the entire time. She doesn’t care one iota about anyone, she has “pretend” alliances who fall for her fake kindness to them.
And they keep her around proving what suckers and fools they all are. Even if some are aware, they’re too freekin’ intimidated by the pretend Queen. Boy oh boy this cast is one for the record books.
I think it’s a ridiculous thing to call themselves “casts”. They’re supposed to be PLAYERS playing a game. They all imagine they’ll be celebrities once they come out. Urgh.
Be brave and put Rachel up!
HE SHOULD HAVE! This does not make any sense. Rachel wanted him backdoored for a month! I feel sorry for those younger girls getting snaked by this jerk. Lauren, Kelley, Kat, and Keanu deserved better.
What Vince and Rachel both want is protection through the double eviction. Wish Rachel would offer Vince protection through the double. This week put up Katherine or Ashley like he wanted.
We can’t have Rachel as a two time winner, get her out now!!
I agree. Even if it doesn’t work, at least you draw a line in the sand. I mean, who will Katherine and Lauren vote for in final 2 then?
Why can’t she win? If she makes it to end with this idiot cast she deserves to win.
Why not? She’s awesome.
How could she guarantee that when the POC group is just waiting for their chance to behead her.
That’s ridiculous
Whose HOH is this? Vinny or Morgan? It seems like she’s running things!!
I agree 100% with you, Vinny is a grown man, he has let Morgan run his HOH. Morgan has not won anything this entire season, but yet Vinny continues to let her run his HOH. I’m so tired of hearing it’s too early to make a big move on Rachel, why??????
I don’t remember how old Vinny is, but I will say this, he complains about Lauren not being able to make a decision, does he not realize how immature and flaky he is ? Vinny is just as bad when it comes to taking charge of his HOH.
Morgan has not won anything since day 1, she claimed she was going to kiss butt with the Wall Competition, she was the 3rd person off, then she spent all night snuggling up with Vinny, talking in circles, rambling on and on, what makes Vinny think that being close with Morgan, keeps him safe? Nobody listens to Morgan, she’s horrible at BB, Morgan’s a big Floater.
Ashely, Morgan, Wil, Mickey, they suck. If Vinny had a brain, had the guts to take control of his HOH, put Rachel up on the block, Rachel had no problem putting his sorry butt on the block. I’m sick and tired of Rachel feeling like she’s royalty, Rachel is not the same Rachel when she last played BB.
Yes Rachel is older, not knocking her based on her age, I’m just confused as to why these people fear her, Rachel won 1 HOH, that’s it, she has not won anything else. Rachel will put Vinny up immediately if she lucks out and wins HOH again, Vinny, fake cries, acts like he’s friends with everyone.
Vinny is an unemployed man child, the dude claims he’s a super fan, but his game play comes across as a spineless, a weak player, being led by Morgan, another loser who has won absolutely nothing, keeps breaking out her nasty M&M’s, babbling, talks in circles. Morgan is useless, her and Vinny deserve each other, they are both annoying as hell.
Vinny needs to step up his HOH, take back control, put Rachel up, stop telling everyone that you are so afraid and fearful of Rachel. The Rachel that Vinny is fearful of, is the Rachel from 14 years ago, the Rachel playing this game today, has 1 win under her belt.
It’s not too early to put Rachel on the block, putting Rachel up will not impact his standing with the Judge Alliance, that alliance is a joke. How can Will, Morgan or Ashley protect Vinny ? They have no power !! They have not won anything, they are all talk, and Ashley and Rachel want Vinny out.
Vinny needs to put Rachel on the block, make a move, it’s not too early, do not listen to Morgan, Morgan will end up on the block next to Vinny again. Rachel knows Vinny fears her, the idiot told her himself, he has told several people he’s afraid of Rachel, Rachel knows this, she is making a fool out of Vinny.
For the record: Rachel was already the all-time BB HOH record-holder with 6 after her winning season 13. Janelle & Dani tied her record in all-stars. Rachel’s HOH last week returned her to her rightful throne as unequivocal Queen of the HOH with 7, something no man nor woman other than Queen Rachel has ever done in Big Brother history!!! FOR THE RECORD. PERIOD.
Your facts are wrong. Janelle set the record with 2 HOH wins in season 6 and 4 more in season 7 All-Stars for a total of 6 before Rachel ever even played the game. Rachel tied that record by winning 2 in season 12 and 4 more in season 13 for a total of 6 in her career at that time. So they were TIED up until the following occurred.
Paul Abrahamian entered the BB house in season 18 and won 3 HOH’s. He followed that up with 3 more in season 19, so he too was tied with Janelle and Rachel at one time.
Cody Calafiore is the main guy you are missing. He won 3 HOH’s in BB16 and 4 more in BB22 All-Stars to tie and then BREAK the record with both Janelle and Rachel!
Dani Donata has a total of 5 HOH wins in her 3 season BB US career.
So Rachel has never held the record by herself, at least not yet, for the most HOH wins by a competitor in US Big Brother history, but there is still more game to be played in season 27. As for now, she is tied with Cody at 7 career HOH wins, with Janelle and Paul one behind at 6.
Keep in Mind two thing Paul made it to the finals two years in a row i think and still won. Derek ran Codys HoH’s and didn’t win anything and won the game. Morgan can keep being Vince puppet master and Rachel can keep mobster styling this cast. I am good with it. I am looking forward to them two actually turning on each other.
Paul did NOT win. He came in second both times he played.
Morgan is insufferable!!!! I cant watch because of her. If I was Vince girlfriend I would be pissed about how she is hanging all over him and trying manipulate him. If Vince falls for her crap he deserves to lose. PUT RACHEL on the block!!!
Do we know that Vince has a girfriend? Looks/acts like an incel to me.
Prediction: Vince will put up Rachel and he will continue to play his middle of the road game( he’s brilliant at it at least with this group). Lauren has his back, she is very good at comps, and her “golly , shucks what do I do?”act. Morgan has his back as well though Vince will drop her in favor of Lauren. He has the votes( and he knows it) . This poor me, these folks will be mad at me may very well be to cover himself with Ashley and Will when he can’t be HOH next week.
He has these votes: Kat, Lauren, Mickey, Keanu and whoever comes down from the Blockbuster ( Rachel can’t win comps like she used to). The person or persons really sitting in great spots are Will and Ava. I am floored by how many of them said Ava/Will stays no matter what. No wonder Ava sleeps so much , she really doesn’t need to do much so why not? I expect, depending on who wins BBuster Morgan to ” sadly vote” ..for Rachel to go so she can stay in Vince’s orbit and Kelly would gleefully vote for Rachel’s exit if she is free to vote . If Rachel loses BBuster, she’s done. Rachel wanted to go before jury so if Rachel is on the block, she’s seeing Julie and everybody gets what they want. Vince wins the season with Lauren sitting next to him, and Morgan,and Keanu as his faithful shields!
Omg this would be a dream come true, please BB grod let this happen!
Totally down with PART ofyour predictions, but BOO and NO WAY to, “Vince wins the season etc.” Ugh, NO WAY!
Week Seven HOH Episode and NOMS and oh no not a half hour of shit…
Recap:
I can’t. I don’t buy the edit. so…. the recap is worse.
Section One Post: forced friday show crap.
Dropping in on Will’s family is push number 2 for the AFP.
Oh it’s unlocked. I don’t want to watch this. Eyeroll.
Ava breakdown. Vince fake crying.
Vince “alliance” coward game is exposed. And these asshats are trying to say it was good to be playing middle without ownership. eyeroll. So production is trying to brainwash casuals with this, I hope everyone knows that.
Will threatened to quit so let’s push Will. he was given a storyline to not quit. great.
muted Franzel. can’t. won’t. ever.
This show is shit. We know this is prodo pushing prodo views big time so why are we pretending it’s any more than that?
Section Two: THE ACTUAL EPISODE
Kat crying. She’s lost her meat shield.
Mickey calls out Morgan being too into Vince
Kelley calls out Vince blindsiding again.
Rachel taking lots of victory laps.
Keanu lost his best friend.
Ava Rachel got in her head. Vince lies to Keanu.
Ava is telling Rachel to get the eff away from her.
Vince knows he’s being used but hey…
Rachel doesn’t trust Vince. Do what you got to do.
Vince knows he just did dirty work…So now he’ll suck up to them. Because Vince plays a game nobody in a jury could respect. he owns nothing.
Section Three: CRYING WITHOUT TEARS
VInce lied knowingly. Edit is bullshitting.
So how does this story match with the other lies.
Keanu is an idiot. He believes in bro.
Keanu gets he has a brain edit with Rachel. in d/r.
Rachel promising final 2 again.
Mickey is Mickeying. Ashley is Ashleying. it’s a day ending in y.
She should have been crawling? oh. Ashley is done for the woman she wants to keep until week 9. Just so you know.
Kat is planting the seed that Rachel wins. She runs the house and knows it. Keanu is shook.
Section Four: THE WALL MYSTERE EXPRESS
first three falls are have nots.
Kat and Kelley want the win. Morgan thinks this is her comp.
it’s water. Vince whines in d/r that he needs to win.
Keanu just wants to beat the other side then he doesn’t care.
Kelley hanging.
Will and Ashley are out at the same time. 29:43
Morgan out 33:45. HAVE NOT. Mickey out 50:24.
AVA 52:41.
Vince motivated by the consequences of his actions.
Kelley stretches. Kelley out 59:17.
Rachel wants Keanu to win?
This house is so allergic to game ownership and understanding WHY there are consequences to their actions. It needs to be studied.
The d/r this episode doesn’t match the house barometer. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
Keanu quits. 1:03:00
Lauren’s feet slip and she hangs. 1:09:32
Kat is the most upset. talking doesn’t work. she doesn’t want to make a deal.
1:14:41. falls
Vince is HOH
Section Five: DELIBERATIONS FOR NOMS
THE JUDGES WAS MADE JUST IN CASE THIS HAPPENED.
Kelley knows he’s picked the other side.
Mickey is happy. Vince is thinking Mickey. Keanu contributes pawn Rachel.
DO I TAKE THE SHOT OR IS IT TOO SOON? VInce moment. APPEASEMENT IS THE GOAL
Melting Pot. Morgan is closer to Vince than Mickey. Morgan was upset that she wasn’t the priority in the aftermath of the vote. Morgan brought him into an alliance he doesn’t trust.
4 members are legit… Vince is the one they trash when the heat turns up. They’d keep Mickey or Ava over Vince 100%. We’ve heard them say it when Morgan isn’t around.
Vince sucking up to Lauren and Kat. They are keeping the second lie secret? Rachel forced me lie hidden.
Mickey one on one. Ava HOH busing. Social game. Mickey is going to educate Vince.
Here is where Vince pooches himself… nominations. Rachel don’t pawn Rachel. Kelley is an option. KEANU MAKES THE GOOD NOM SUGGESTION FOR PRE-FLIP VINCE. IF VINCE HAD A SPINE. Vince does not.
Kelley is not okay with nomination. She knows he’s screwing her. Final 2’s mean nothing to Vince. Because he has 2000 of them.
Morgan and Will lie to Vince. think about Morgan’s game. Whet’s wrong with you.
Big Invertebrate is Vince’s game… I can’t have people mad at me. waaaah.
Section Six: Nominations
Noms: Ava Mickey Kelley.
So he is giving one side voting control and saying he’s playing middle. mmhmm.
Vince is targeting Mickey… if she wins veto he is thinking Rachel. sure sure. believe it when i see it.
Putting Rachel on the block means… either one side has 5 votes to save her or the other side has 4 votes to tie and Vince has to magically grow a spine. see the problem?
What happened to Mickey rolling a 38 in the blockbuster? have we not seen that or was that completely fabricated or staged? Honestly, I didn’t mean to be bringing this up but has there been nothing to show her getting that score?
recap didn’t have film of her getting the roll.
no wide shot of all three that we know one of their cameras had because they showed it at the end of the comp to show she had 38.
so…. she rolled what looked like a 6. and next shot she’s standing at the end with a 38. and we don’t see her make the shot.
Make whatever you want of that.
I make that production flat-out faked a 38 for Mickey to keep their preordained storyline winner around. I also make that Keanu chose Will & Kelley chose Vince in the veto comp to avoid eliminating Mickey because production told them to. I also make that no one has put my girl Rachel OTB yet because production told them not to because production’s storyline seems to be Mickey vs Rachel in the final2 with Mickey being production’s preordained winner of season27 of this SO-CALLED REALITY SHOW! I have officially stolen your Tinfoil Hat & put it on.
I heard someone say on feeds Morgan said you couldn’t see what the others had rolled. I noticed the boards were all leaning towards Mickey. I’m sure it was to make the ball roll a certain way, but Mickey could see their balls. Also, Morgan said Mickey said she “skipped hr ball like a rock on water” to get her number. I was really hoping to see that. Guess not!
Still not sure it was a legitimate roll/win.
Camera work was awful, so I wouldn’t put it past production cheating.
Did you also notice on Unlocked that after showing the preview of Vince fake crying to Keanu, then back to studio with Derrick, Taylor and Boston Rob, they all acted like Vince was actually crying. Nothing at all said by any of these players that Vince was clearly faking. Had to act like like he was actually crying because it’s another show for the TV only folks, and they’re all corporate stooges.
I saw that too. Big fan of Rob. Guess he knows who signs the checks.
Morgen is just so insufferable with how she acts so innocent with how she never did anything to Lauren when she’s been after her for the whole entire game basically. She won’t shut up about how Lauren voted her out. When just failing to realize what she did to her for six weeks all from a boy not giving her attention.
Why is it “too early” to get Rachel out? Wouldn’t going for the big move pre jury be best?
Too early is defensive invertebrate speak for i’m scaaawed.
Vinny is a worm with a mustache. I hope he does next week!
His tattoos are ugly too.
If Vince doesn’t put up Rachel as a replacement, i really hope she wins HOH and evicts him next. this guy is next level stupid
Exactly. Stupid is as stupid does.
Post HOH Episode d/r count
VINCE 148
RACHEL 145
KEANU 117
MICKEY 112
KELLEY 74
WILL 73
MORGAN 72
AVA 64
ASHLEY 61
LARUEN 57
KATHERINE 38
kATHERINE FINALLY PASSED WEEK 3 EVICTED HOUSEGUEST ADRIAN FOR D/R COUNT. IF THAT MEANS ANYTHING TO ANYONE ELSE. IT’S WEEK7.
jIMMY STILL HAS MORE D/R INCLUSION THAN ALL OF THE SECOND AND BOTTON TIER. hE LEFT WEEK 4.
ZACH HAS MORE D/R COUNT THAN AVA AND THE ONES UNDER HER IN TALLY. HE LEFT WEEK 5.
Why i point this out…. how important are you to the story if your d/r count on week 7 is less than the guy that left week 5?
Keep in mind, Ashley and Morgan are being encouraged to cam talk which, as we remember from Paras and her american counterpart Chelsie, can hide someone in plane sight in d/r count. Morgan sucks at cam talking. No inner thoughts, just a recap of what she just did or said.
Finally Vince wakes up
Vince’s tattoos are so ugly that I’m ashamed that we even exist in the same reality. I wish this guy was never born and should have been aborted 34 years ago. I can totally believe that no job place would ever want him.
I can’t believe CBS would cast this lowlife low class scumbag. I don’t know how his parents raised him but he belongs in a zoo with all the monkeys.
I’m surprised he even could comprehend what an HOH, Veto and Block even is with his pea size brain.
When he gets evicted next week he should really fly away to mars or any other planet that’s not earth. He’s a disgrace to not only Italians but human beings all together.
WOW!!! Look up the word: INAPPROPRIATE & then look in the mirror!!!
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You should adress all this words to .. yourself. You prob already are hating yourself with all that hate inside of you. Get thearpy. Discusting.
Please, tell us how you REALLY feel.
You must be a real treat to wake up to in the morning
Kelly, Keanu, Lauren and Katherine might just talk him into putting up Rachel! He’s a dumbass if he doesn’t. Heck, put up Ashley, she seems to be at least 3 peoples untouchable, if that’s not a red flag, I don’t know what is and she’s such a 2face!
If he picks Ashley, he can just say he’s cleaning up the mess he started on Week 1!
Sorry I thk this threat to vote for Rachel if she makes it to the final two with anyone is BS. Yes that would be amazing for Rachel to make it having a target on her back as the two time player and one time winner although the person sitting next to her beat everyone else to the final two who also played the game with Rachel and her resume Just shows that they played better than the rest of them and did what they couldn’t and they can argue that in the finale. So I think it’s just a threat to secure what they want to happen for their game.
I agree with the other comment, they need to stick together till after the double elimination at the least. I forget Katherine and Lauren are even there 95% of the time. Go with one of them as replacement and get no more blood on your hands Vinny. Katherine shouldn’t have just relied on just Riley this whole time just like Lauren shouldn’t have just relied on just Vinny this whole time, they should’ve been playing the game! Made more allies. XOXO
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So just now Rachel and Vince are talking in the wine room. Rachel tells Vince “BB is Celebrating 25 years, they didn’t bring her back for her to go home perjury, she needs to be there” Vince- he knows and he’s okay with them. Rachel- “don’t listen to Kelly, she’s nuts, she’s crazy” Vince says yeah I know” Rachel- know really, I think there’s something wrong with her” and the feeds cut and go to Morgan and the damn M&M’s to Ashley. Why they are protecting her like that.
Well production should of made jury start in f11. It also pretty iconic to get her out for a 25 years celebration.
“cbs didn’t bring me back here to leave pre-jury”
Rachel Reilly
So if that isn’t production as a strategy… what is?
Ashley is now trying to convince Vince using how they would edit the epsodes.
Again.
It used to be forbidden to use production as strategy.
But hey.
What do you mean “we’re going to”:
Hey Vince, you *already* look like an idiot cast.
In case anyone missed it…
I will always be harsher and less supportive of a stuntcast in big brother.
They walk in with immunity. They are usually given the opportunity to give others immunity which creates a bond. They are usually left out of the first twist (in this case accomplice) which means they are the trustworthy observer.
It sets tone.
Add to that every starfuqer and superfan wants to glom on.
Add to that they always use in my dayism.
Add to that the prodo factor and the separate contract.
Who cares how they are playing when the stuntcast always has fingers on the scale.
That’s how stuntcasts stay so long.
They don’t leave unless they want to in new school bb.
Harsh take:
Rachel wasn’t the hero of either of her seasons. She was a vapid loudmouth her first time, and a comp winner that was meh, the best of what was left at the end. That’s her legacy in bb. Sorry, but it’s how i feel.
What they don’t say is that immunity for the stuntcast from production lasts until jury which is why everyone is unofficially scared of putting Rachel up. Endangering the stuntcast will endanger your game from production.
I’m not a newbie to BB by any means, and fully onboard with the “conspiracy theory” that this reality show isn’t all THAT real… but I’ve never heard the term “stunt cast” before. Can you define that? Maybe name some names that make up this year’s stunt cast plus those from a few previous seasons? I’m intrigued.
stuntcast is my term for specially contracted players in the season. Usually they are career reality tv persons or return players, but they can be anyone that is under a different contract than a casted person.
Paul, Cirie, Rachel are all Stuntcasts in their return seasons. The seasons revolved around their presence.
Angela last season spoke to houseguests on feeds in the HOH room about being under a separate contract. She was an agent of chaos / drama.
I never liked Rachel in the two times she played but for some reason she has become BB royalty. Can anyone explain what made BB production & past houseguests practically revere her? Is it the Brenchel thing? I always thought Brenden was such a butthead too. There’s got to be something. She has been on so many other reality shows just because she’s “Rachel”.
They were the first real breakout dramaqueens of the Grod era. Grod took over as head honcho somewhere around 9 or 10. Their seasons were fairly good for ratings that had been dropping, and their bickering dynamic made them what reality tv considered bankable. So that explains two shots on Amazing Race and fear factor. In that time period there was a big push to create personality ‘stars’.
In the reality community they are either loved or loathed by other former bb celebutards. As weird as it is to say there seems to be 2 camps. This is evidenced by Derrick being in one camp with Franzel and the like, and Rachel being in the other camp with the Janelle’s and the like.
Rachel is good at making contacts to get herself cast to increase or invigorate her brand. Her brand is to be the loud and obnoxious woman that argues and well sometimes whines.
I’m so tired of this super-fan crap. If they were super-fans they would know that the fans don’t usually like returnees. he’s sitting there saying Rachel is going to win AFP….in what universe? She said herself that she won b/c Brenden was in the jury house getting her votes. Look there was no way Porsche deserved to win but Rachel only won 4-3. Personally i didn’t like her then, and I don’t like her now. Every year we complain about the cast but this one on the whole is horrible. Keanu and Kelley know more about how to play the game then the super-fans. Tonight keanu said, you have to put up Ashley/Rachel/Mickey so they can’t use the veto on each other, then you guarantee at the end of the week one of them is on the block and goes home. How does the super-fan not know this? He puts up Kelley, he loses the vote and runs the risk of her going home. He’s just an idiot and tonight Vince essentially called Lauren stupid because she caved to putting Adrian up instead of Ashley. Yep, that’s where it started. What dumbasses. These are superfans? I bet they don’t know anything prior to season 20. If they can answer basic questions about the first 6 seasons then they can be considered super-fans.
I’d like to know just what each of them consider being a superfan. Lauren & Kat keep claiming they are & it’s obvious they do not know how to play the game. Does watching a season or so make you a superfan? I have watched since the beginning (OK I skipped season 1) Does that make me a superfan? I can’t even name the last winner!
Chelsea Baham.
“She’s going to be the 1st two time winner.”
Not if you put Rachel up & convince the rest of the HGs that getting rid of a person who not only been on BB multiple times, but also WON a season is an EXCELLENT decision. Just common sense.
So Vince knows that Rachel and Ashley have been made aware they are potential nominees. Kat knows she’s a potential nominee. He’s just created two enemies or three depending on blockbuster because he can’t choose who will hate him less.
Think about it. I had to fight to stay off the block on your HOH.
That is, in bb, fatal error.
So now he chooses between the side with the physical comp beasts that suck at knock out comps or the cerebral side that throws everything they can to minimize their targets.
Either way, next HOH he’s on the block.
Good going with that don’t want to get anyone mad at me game doofus.
Theory on Ava behavior:
Last week she told Rachel that Mickey and Morgan were targeting them. both of them.
Rachel puts them on the block, then changes her mind.
Ava, in bed, overhears Ashley and Mickey. She is unimpressed.
Twice. In one day. They are shit talking.
Rachel starts spending more time with them.
Rachel renoms Riley after telling Ava to get closer to the showmance (because Rachel had earlier in the week promised them safety).
NONE of the plan changes were even told to Ava. They just became the way things were.
Rachel, Morgan and Ashley were meangirling in the bedroom, not whispering, while Ava was again in bed and heard every word. Part of the subject was Ava and disloyalty for even considering who to vote for.
So. Why is Ava distancing herself from all of them?
2 said they were targeting her. The other two chose them over Ava.
I told you. This is the most highschool cast in years. Ava went from everyone’s Debbie in the girlliance traingles to being on the outs because they either broke her trust or they didn’t check the bed and she overheard them being bitches.
There. That is why Ava is on the outs.
But on Sunday’s episode she said she was Rachels final 2? So I don’t know where she stands. Plus if vince told her about the judges maybe she would love rachel going up
I suspect that was a production directed DR pre-eviction for edit narrative. She was not happy about Rachel before the eviction and not about to feel so chipper about her after melting into emotions after the eviction.
d/r is not the houseguest’s diary.
d/r is production asking leading questions to get the answers they need in the tone they require for storyline narration.
Now that Rachel and Kelly had that spat( they were both being “mean girls” to each other) , and both Ashley and Morgan told Rachel to chill ( not only because I’mRachel FINALLY caught on to Keanu pushing for her to go on the block to Vince) but because Rachel also told Vince she was indeed was acting like the ” petty mean ### girl” towards Kelly. Vince, once again, has found ” the golden ticket” for putting Rachel ( I believe he will) up. Even Morgan – who would turn on a dime anyway, and Ashley said if Rachel goes up, it’s her own fault and started distancing themselves from her because of Rachel’s exchange with Kelly. I think Rachel knows she’s done and her annoyance and frustrating with her cast mates is showing. Her recent comments land more like someone desperately trying to survive drowning with some semblance of a career intact. Your thoughts?
Vince may go up if Mickey becomes HOH but other than that, he will be ” king” with enough of them once he puts Rachel up so he has enough HG on his side to save him- and they would. I have to agree with Ashley : if Rachel goes their side becomes weaker and their done. I can almost picture Vince twirling his mustache now. Rachel just gave him great reasons to put her up, he won’t have to break a tie. Keanu, Kat, Lauren, and Mickey will vote to get rid of Rachel and if Kelly comes off the block so will she. Morgan and Ashley see what’s happening and after Rachel’s exchange with Kelly etc. they are sliding over to vote her out because ” they want to be on the right side of the vote”. The ” universe” just saved Vince!
Where would Ava’s vote go if it’s Rachel vs Kelley?
Production threw in that DR of Ava promoting her F2 with Rachel. I wonder on the timing, maybe it wasn’t after the Riley eviction.
From what I’m gathering it seems Ava expressed disillusionment to Vinny last week about Rachel and co manipulating her HOH. The fact of her and Vinny planning their vote together seemed like an allegiance shift.
Vinny talks a lot but not always to the right people right time right goal. He should be securing Ava’s vote against Rachel to help release his brain freeze on the renom.
Looks like he folded and is going to put up Kat.
Vince was using Ava to cover his vote. When Ava wasn’t saying how she would vote he lost the cover of they had the numbers. Then he concocted the whole they intimidated me lie the episodes aren’t showing.
Ava at this point still likely votes Rachel to stay… likley.
Why? Ava is closer to Rachel. She just has pity for Kelley.
Vince told Ava she’s swing vote.
As the new three witches, Cackle, Hackle and Spackle are shit talking everyone in the house all i got to say really is… 2 drinks. At most they had 2 drinks.
Wouldn’t you know it. the minute there is negativity being uttered, there’s Mickey.
Remember, she negative energies EVERYone she comes into prolonged contact with.
Not that Ashley and Rachel need the help.
I’m about done with the sanctimonious bullshit from backstabber, blabbermouth esquire and 40 year old highschool junior for tonight.
They don’t entertain me. That’s right, I’m not entertained because guess what, if one of the three walked away right now the other two would be shit talking the absentee.
That’s who they ARE.
Today’s unforced error: Rachel gets one piece of info from Vince, runs it to keanu immediately who runs it to Vince. Rather than take accountability, Keanu is the devil. Come on. She DID that to herself. She thought danger over, and got cute.
Mickey… she’s a nope. Ashley and Rachel want to longhaul a nope. eyeroll. oh man… i almost noped the pair of them for wanting to keep a nope. Instead… warnings. they are both yellow cards. FAFO ladies.
This juvenile night of stupidity… really?
The constant bullshit put downs followed by but we’re the good people… i’m a 40 year old mom of 2 I’d never be a bully. Sure she would. Ever been to a PTA meeting? Get real. Ever been out for a bottle of wine with a group of PTA moms? no really, get. real.
Don’t get me started on the walnut. There are not enough weird hand gestures and sound effect noises at my disposal at 3am to get started on the walnut. I may have praised her for reading Vince to filth right to his face… but sometimes it’s just where the hell is she hiding the crack pipe cus…. zooooooooooooooooom. whistle noise. cuckoo clock noise. hit myself over the head with a very large meat tenderizer. repeatedly.
Oh look. Vince is out of the diary room and Morgan has already got the fangs into him and started to constrict. But she doesn’t want to push. eyeroll. I mean, after lying with the m$m’s about the vote count with Rachel on the block… wouldn’t want to push. she’s never going to let him get sleep.
dont feel bad Lauren. casting is a complete disaster 5 seasons in a row now.
THAT’S for sure!
How did Vince become the new Zach in Morgans death feud with Lauren.
Because she’s unfortunately, jealous that Lauren without batting an eyelash gets the attention and affection of men whom morgan gravitates towards.
Don’t you dare
This is getting beyond stupid. Vince is the biggest conflict avoidant coward I have ever seen. Dude needs to grow up. I really hope this house teaches him a little bit about life in general, and not letting people walk all over you.
If he puts up anyone but Rachel, or Ashley, I wash my hands of the guy. He’s a huge idiot.
“Unemployed superfan”. Explains a lot.
I washed my hands of the guy 6 weeks ago.
Yeah I’m so f’ing done with this guy. He is so stupid. One of the worst players I’ve ever seen. I’ve never felt so much disgust towards someone’s cowardice before. But damn.
This made no sense that Rachel is not up. Lauren, Kelley, Katherine, and Keanu deserved better.
Late late night last night
gonna admit before hand i fell asleep before it was over.
After 2.5 hours Vince leaves the d/r.
Morgan already has the fangs inserted and she’s in the midst or coiling herself around him.
They head to HOH.
Nagini tries to tell him about the drama of winegate redclawgate and huggate. This is where we learn that Morgan can’t retell a story if she is not the central character.
Vince seems stoned.
Munchies, eyedrops goofy grin… this dude is high as hell. what did they give him in d/r?
Morgan has brought out those godamned m&m’s again.
Vince brings… Lauren into the conversation.
Vince makes it sound like he is putting up Rachel.
Morgan is livid.
Vince asks them to pro or con Rachel or Katherine as noms.
Morgan speaks way more than Lauren who won’t speak around Morgan because Morgan weaponizes what people say and runs it to other people.
Morgan, livid, leaves to go to the bathroom.
Lauren and Vince continue talking.
Vince is outlining the Judges without saying the name as a deal that has been made until jury and includes protection for Lauren (he’s straight up lying there is no protection deal for Lauren). but he has to put up Kat to make the deal.
Lauren is no fly on a one week deal when she gets to play next HOH, and if one of them wins she gets to play veto or even blockbuster. It’s a one week deal that only exists to save Rachel… and Lauren isn’t biting. Lauren has assumed the alliance offering the deal to Vince includes Mickey in Vince’s spot (which to half the judges… it does).
Vince gets all anti Rachel in his mirroring and then brings in Ashley.
He’s whining that he’s being forced and essentially bullied.
HOW do you vote for a winner no matter what they say in their final 2 arguments if your knowledge is they played a coward game of never doing what was best for HIM but only what other people FORCED him to do? Can’t later lie and say i meant to do that without getting bitter votes. It reopens wounds and they fester into bitter jury votes.
When i fell asleep no decision had been announced.
As of feed cut for Veto Ceremony:
We STILL don’t know which way Vince is leaning really for the renom.
My take: If Vince plays Vince’s game it is Kat.
If production wants drama like they want indecision about who the renom will be… it will be Rachel.
Vince’s 2 last d/r calls have come late night. They have lasted hours.
His demeanor has shifted after each call.
First one he was sort of argumentative with Morgan.
Second one he was playing make my girls talk to each other.
When he is close to a decison the waits for Godot.
Feeds cut when it sounds like he is going to say yay or nay on Rachel being a nom.
Why Alliances don’t work on bb27.
They never meet in full.
Heavy Hitters: Riley never joined a meeting.
Heavy Hitters 2.0: always one member absent.
The Bond: met once then discarded, no meetings.
Triple Threat: didn’t meet in full during Jimmy’s HOH.
Judges: they don’t meet as a five. This week they didn’t even talk to Vince really until after Veto. So… the member who is on the outside feels less a member because they have Morgan being his only contact…. then start coming in saying who they will target next and telling him who to renom from a position of kinship that they have not been demonstrating until they need something.
Judges does not last 2 weeks. no way.
Vince just made the dumbest decision and screwed over the other side not putting rachel. I just dont understand other than production pushing rachel. She messed up bad last night after nominating and wanting backdoored for a month. How is she not up?
This is becoming incredibly tedious!
“I want to make a BIG MOVE!”
One side of house: “Do what we tell you or you’re OUT next week!”
Other side of house: “Do what we tell you or you’re OUT next week!”
“I don’t want to make them MAD at me!!!”
OUTCOME: The world’s most pointless eviction for the week.
REPEAT AD INFINITUM.
With all due respect, Vince is a victim of his own game. You can’t lie and backstab everybody in the house, while whining and crying that you’re afraid, and not expect people to intimidate you into doing what they want. Why in the world should they keep him around when he constantly flip flops from one week to another, tells them one thing then does another, and is constantly crying about how scared he is?
You can’t count on somebody like that, so the best thing to do is just get rid of them. Nobody likes snakes, rats or weasels. Take your pick, but they all can pretty much be applied to Vince.
comparison review
season 26 to 27 evictions
matt bohunk zae
lisa woman that didn’t fit dynamic amy
kenney man didn’t fit dynamic adrian
cedric early voice d/r jimmy
brooklin sidekick betrayed to keep a main zach
tucker gold / teflon edit guy Riley
Joseph unimportant to storyline all three noms fit.
Not that they are following a formula. never. it’s coincidence.
That means next week ‘should’ be a too many game errors mastermind.
Quinn.
This means episode edit mastermind not feed mastermind. opens up options.
puts up katherine? lol this dude.. that side has full control now and the only chance of a decent ending is keanu winning hoh’s and veto’s until this end. cbs please go back to your days of better casting. this is horrendous.
This makes no sense of him doing this and screwing over the 4 remaining people of rylies alliance.
This really is a joke. If I were Rachel I’d honestly consider self-evicting.
Sounds stupid, I know, but I dont see how anything she does this season makes her look good. Either you win against a bunch of babies, or you get evicted by one. Its not looking great. Good for you if you win the money, but like she so frequently said on Traitors, “Its just a game.” I dont think she cares about the money. I think her legacy is more important to her, and this sad bunch is doing nothing to improve it.
“2-time winner”? What does that really mean when this is the competition?
I mean she was handed the victory in bb13 and she was an emotional mess every time. The fact she is one of the better players this season alone says how bad casting is. Because Rachel legit sucks. But looks good on this season. I think Keanu, Lauren, and even Kelley knows what moves need to be done at least. But will they make them? Well its going to be too late soon unless they can always have 3 of the other side on the block. I wish them luck.
If I was Rachel after this season, I wouldn’t brag that I was on Season 27, even if she wins.
He’s a wuss!
I was trying so hard to manifest a Rachel nom. But realistically speaking, it would have been a bad move for Vinny bc he probably would not have the votes if it were Rachel vs Kelley. Factor in the possibility of Rachel BB win, this was a risky swing in terms of math odds.
The one game benefit would have been in solidifying trust with the anti-Rachel side, and then risk an old school battle off with Rachel if she stays.
If I take my own biases out of it, he’s better off having to alienate the weak side as Lauren is still not going to put him up. Kat or Kelly are going home, that leaves just one of them to manage. And Keanu is eternally addicted to Vinny. Ava is all over the place, she’s not worth any sort of loyalty vs betrayal strategy.
Rachel and co see Keanu and Kelley as their biggest threats right now. Lauren could be a pawn, Vinny is at risk of renom. Rachel might try to put him up as third but it seems pointless, better to string him along, as she’s already got two big thorns she needs out.
If he’d put up Rachel, he’d be part of the targeted trio for her side.
As far as post veto damage control, this was his best play.
Keanu did him a big favor by openly going balls to the walls against Rachel last night. He’s top rank target for her now.
Keanu going off on Vince.
Frankly Vince deserves it.
Mr. Conflict avers everyone has to like me game…
is being called out on every bit of his shit.
Don’t know the outcome.
But now that Kelley has called him on being a rotten ally and a liar,
and Keanu has called him out on being a spineless coward….
He’s gotta know that is house perception even if only the crazy people are actually saying it. oops. Jury won’t reward i had power and caved to people out of power.
We all know Vince was acting. He had to cover his head with his hoodie and there are few face shots. there are crying noises and no tears.
We saw Keanu cleave tighter to Vince by the end of it.
of course he did there are only 3 men in the house and Keanu is a bro.
But i was happy to see someone call out Vince. A line of people calling out Vince would be even better because I don’t care if it is an act, I can’t respect his game.
Forgive me for sounding like Mickey, but “I am not above saying oops.” Vince was in a prime spot to target Rachel, and after her squabble with Kelly last night, he had all the votes he needed. Vince is playing a solid middle-of-the-road game—he’s got Kelly, Lauren, and Keanu in his pocket, and they’re all competent comp players. Unless she wins BlockBuster, Katherine will probably be the one going home. Ava won’t be touched.
Maybe something really is going on behind the scenes, and I’ve missed the clues many of you have smartly picked up on. But from what I see, Katherine seems to think she doesn’t have to do much (like make social connections) to play this game. It’s time for her to finally show us why she came to play—if she ever intended to at all.
Lauren told Vince that Morgan runs her mouth too much, which is why she avoids talking game around her. I wonder if Vince will try to mend fences with Lauren and Keanu.
As a boomer female I know I’m about to be sexist and ageist, but whatever. Rachel puts herself out there, she’s going to get some tomato splats.
In some photos like the one above, her skin elasticity is like that of a woman in her 50s.
She has a charmed life having become a reality star legend and making a career out of it, loving husband and children, enough money for nice things. Very intelligent had potential for the accomplishments of a professional career if she hadn’t done BB.
But she looks like many a working class person who is run down by life.
She’s not happy deep down. It’s not healthy for her to seek so much validation in the form of a seasoned BB player. Like, big woops! Are you a surgeon, drug counselor, even a regional manager at the restaurant chain who chuckles at the new hire HS grads?
People like to feel they have career experience and maybe like to mentor younger folks; at some point they get a sense of having paid their dues, made mistakes they learned from, put up with things they no longer tolerate and know how to resolve.
Rachel has put herself on speed dial for that sort of life arc when she’s barely 40, and it’s just a useless show for entertainment purposes.
Having seen her sister’s season they both have emotional problems, very reactive and needy.
I suppose some of her displays are acting for the role that gains her more fans and financial rewards. But I don’t think she needs to stretch it much. That is who she is, and she does look quite run over by a truck unless she’s plumped up with her lashes and what-not.
Lmfao what a disaster of an HOH
Well, I finally have a favorite in this miserable season. Kneau for the win and AFP!!
Sorry, hard to root for backstabbing Keanu & psycho Kelly….. Lauren & Catherine are like watching paint dry….at least will be entertaining to see the “ Judges” go to war
Monday night live.
Lauren in the HOH. Gives numerous reasons why the best for his game (if he has one) is to name Rachel as his renom. He seems to agree.
Morgan in the HOH. Goes on and on as why Lauren should be the renom, after all, she voted against her. If not Lauren, then it has to be Katherine. Every sentence included me or I and what’s best for me. Then, she snuggles/cuddles with him. Guess since Lauren didn’t snuggle/cuddle, her comments didn’t matter.
So, who gets the renom, of course it’s Katherine. What a biotch move.
This afternoon, Keanu did a fantastic job explaining the facts of life to the HOH, causing some real tears (?). The HOH says the game is like his real life, give something a half-assed try, if it doesn’t work, give up. Is there any wonder why he’s unemployed? He knows that if one of the Rachel crew is the next HOH, he’s toast.
This week, unless something drastic happens, it’ll be a shame that one of the “K” girls is going to visit with Julie.
Rachel in jury would be terrible. She’s bad mouth whoever didn’t agree with her.
It is an eviction block of plus ones or failed plus ones.
Kelley was supposed to be Vince’s plus one.
Ava and her for entertainment purposes only f2 with Rachel.
Kat as showmance girl with no story.
Note, as soon as Vince dropped her, Kelley disappeared for almost a week from feeds.
Note, now that Rachel has moved on Ava is….. pretty much nothing in the game.
Note, without Rylie nobody even knows who Kat is.
This is storyline clean up of loose plot thread no matter who goes.
Feeds are now cutting at the mention of Rylie.
New school usually gets rid of the second of a pair within 2 weeks because they only storyline half the cast and the pair storyline doesn’t work as a solo act because there is no groundwork.
One dangling plot thread leaves this week.
One leaves within 4 evictions likely in a double.
One leaves around 5th – 7th place.
That’s how they do it.
OMG! Morgan, put a cork in it! Shut the hell up already!
(I’m watching the live feeds; and she’s pretty much been on a nonstop monologue since last night!). For God’s sake = Vince already renom’d Katherine; so why is Morgan still nonstop yakking in the HOH room? She needs to GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
This season is full of gutless wimps. They probably brought Rachael in just to bully these sheeple
Ok, am I a missing something? Why is everyone scared of Rachel? Also, why is she still in the house? And let the down votes commence LOL