Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Vinny
Nominees: Mickey, Ava, Kelley
POV Players: Vince, Mickey, Ava, Kelley, Will, Keanu
POV Winner: Mickey
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: Will, Ashley, Morgan
Bathroom – Morgan, Rachel and Ashley
Ashley – He’s stressed and crying. I don’t like that. Rachel – What is he stressed about.. I’m sorry. Like, get over it.
12pm HOH room – Vinny and Morgan
Morgan – With Rachel and Ashley and of course, you know, asking me like what you’re thinking and I was like obviously, I’m not making it sound like you’re considering Rachel at all. Vinny – Good. Yeah, thank you. Morgan – But what was interesting is Ashley was like.. she’s like, I’m not going to lie, she’s like, if he does put up me or Rachel, it automatically shows that Mickey was his intended target because it’s coming from the quote unquote same side and I never thought about it from that from that perspective. Vinny – She was my target. I wasn’t lying. Morgan – No, I know, but now that she’s off the block, she can’t know that. Vinny – Right. Morgan – You know what I mean. Vinny – Oh, I see what you’re saying. Morgan – Because of association, she’ll then automatically assume that she was the target. I was lying. You know what I mean? Vinny – Yeah. Morgan – Because, you know, it’s like, oh, I couldn’t get her. So I’ll get one of her friends. Vinny – Yes. Morgan – So coming from her perspective, I was like wow, I never thought of it like that. Vinny – that’s a good point.
Morgan – I was like, if I was coming from a side of people and then choosing my number one, who just so happens to be on the opposite side, my game naturally transitions me over here, and it comes a point in time where you either commit or you don’t. And she was like, Rachel’s like, well, of course, she’s like you never vote out your number one. And I was like right. I was like, so I think he’s probably thinking that because he’s now transitioning that he’s at the bottom of the totem pole and he’ll be the 1st one picked off, right. And Rachel was like. She basically her and and Ashley were just like, well, the good thing is, is the alliance like we’re all going to stick together and ride together like he has protection. We’re not coming after him and he’ll be OK. She’s like, especially because we know that. They also said, like, if any of us were to ever come after him, like basically they make an enemy out of me. You know what I’m saying? Vinny – Yeah.
Morgan – You’ll sit on the block right next to Lauren next week. Because everyone wants Lauren to go on the block because of the way she’s playing this game. Vinny – Yeah, I know. Morgan – you can’t protect her. It’s hard. I know you want to, and it’s admirable. I’ve been trying to protect her too, until she voted my a$$ out. Vinny – Yeah, but, I mean, here’s the thing. I’m still gonna protect her. If I can try for my game, but I’m not going to lose sleep over it, you know what I mean? Vinny – Yeah. Morgan – Here’s the thing, she voted me out. She advocated for me to go push for people to vote me out. She campaigned against me as hard as she possibly could I just know that if you do that, you’re going to be the target next week. And I can’t lose you, Vinny. Like, I really can’t. But that frustrates me too. Vinny – I don’t like being like. I don’t like my hand being forced to do things just because well. Do what we want or you’re our target. It feels like I’m like, being like, pushed around, like, oh, do what we want, do what we want. We’ll come after you. Like, all right, f**king get away from me. I’ll do what the f**k I want to do. How about that? Morgan – Well, then do what you want to do, Vinny. Vinny – No. Because it’s true. They are going to come after me and then I’m gone. And they do have the numbers. So I’m gone one more week until the checkpoint, and I’m gone before that.
Morgan – Whatever you do, when you talk to Mickey alone, just do not say that Rachel was your target. Don’t say it was a back door. Just say the fact that you thought that you wanted me gone was why she was up there or what like or whatever with the with what you had heard from Katherine on your one on one with her. Vinny – yeah. Morgan – And you could also say that you saw after that you were more torn up that Rylie left versus Morgan from your perspective. Vinny – Yeah. Morgan – you know what I mean? Vinny – Yeah, I’m going to take that angle.
12:45pm – 1:15pm HOH room – Vinny, Will and Morgan
Vinny – On a personal level, you know, if I was in Mickey’s position, I’m so happy for her to win when she needs to two weeks in a row. On a human level, that’s amazing. Good for her, because all of us would hope that we’re able to do that if we’re in that position. On my side, that’s worst case scenario, two weeks in a row and that sucks because she she is a dangerous player she’s going to keep. Her social game so strong that she could sway any moment. I never know what power she’s going to have over other people. Rachel joins them. They talk about how they think Keanu threw the veto comp. Rachel – I think he was throwing it too. And I think then afterwards, I think he targeted Will because he doesn’t want to like target Mickey or Kelley because they’re on the block and he’s obviously not going to target you. And so I think he was just like, let’s get me and Will out of this. And once we’re out, let them fight it out.
Rachel – Well, and I was telling Morgan this morning, I thought, I feel like it’s just at this point in the game, we just have to ride like, literally. I just think it’s like. Will – Yeah. Rachel – there’s no other option like we just have to stick together. This week, next week, you know, like the first few weeks of jury and then that’s it. Will – I agree. Three weeks, you know, if we were the same for three weeks, we are golden. Golden because we have the numbers to protect, because are some of us probably going to touch the block perhaps but we have the numbers.
Will – But really, I know it’s tough, bro. I know. Because you haven’t worked much with Rachel. You haven’t. Vinny – That’s why everyone is saying their eyes are lighting up right now. Renom! Backdoor Rachel! She put you on the block. She’s been campaigning for you to be gone. She hates you. She f**king wants you out. Rachel – I mean, I think we should ride. Vinny – Absolutely. Rachel – Also, let me just give you some reasons why that’s a bad idea. One, we have 5 people here. Vinny – I agree. I’m not going to. That’s why I’m telling you I’m not (Vinny telling Rachel he is not putting up Rachel as the renom). Rachel – No, I know. Like, I’ll win the blockbuster and then that’s who. You don’t want to split up what we have, right? No, it’s like. Morgan – Plus we also experience what it’s like when Rachel’s coming after us. I didn’t like that. I don’t think you did either. I don’t want to sit next to you on the block again. Rachel – But I’m just saying, like, I will win the blockbuster. Vinny – Yeah. Rachel – So if you want to risk that. Vinny – no, I don’t. Rachel – Like, I’m not going home. That’s the votes, that’s everything we need to move forward. Morgan – And that’s the whole point of this point of the game, is to ride. Because if you can like take a if we can all go this far and like take it to the end, then like, that’s amazing.
Will (pushing for Katherine to go up) – Katherine. Don’t make it harder. Don’t make it calculus. Vinny – yeah.
Rachel – And by the way, like there’s no way of you going to the other side. So if you take a shot at this side that they’re saying you’re not going to ever be on that side, that’s so.
Vinny – No, you won’t. Rachel – You won’t. We got five people. Katherine already mad at you. And Rylie is her boyfriend. So strike two. Vinny – Yeah. Rachel – And Keanu is not going to leave your side. He’ll get over it. He’s literally gotten over everything in this game. He’s hated me at one point. We’re fine. He’s hated her. One point. They’re fine. He’ll be fine, my man. Vinny – Apparently we’re not fine but
1:40pm HOH Room – Vinny and Katherine talk about the veto and how it all played out. Katherine pushes for Rachel to go up as the renom.
Katherine – I think she also probably has been involved with conversations with people and I think she knows that I’m being suggested. And that’s probably she was like, I’m not really. Vinny – Yeah. Katherine – I think that’s probably why she’s like, I’m not on the side of that. But I feel like she knows that the other suggestion would be Rachel. She just didn’t spell it out, you know what I mean? She tells me very small details. But by her saying, I mean I’m pretty sure she knows. Like it’s probably me, Keanu, or Rachel or Ashley maybe even. But you know what I mean. But like Ashley would have been the easiest route. That’s what would have made most sense. Vinny – But I know. I don’t know if I’ll ever get another chance, even people on that other side like. Katherine – I think a couple of them would switch up because they’re like, f**k yeah, it’s opportunity now to get Rachel out. Vinny – Yes. Katherine – pre jury out because I’ve had a couple of them, like even the ones that like her,
say they ‘d be really scared about her manipulating the jury and the jury. Vinny – Oh my God, I know, right? That’s such a good point. Katherine – I’m not positive, Morgan. I don’t think Mickey would even keep her. Honestly, if Rachel ends up staying on that block, I don’t think that Mickey would keep her. I don’t think that Morgan would. I fucking would it, Lauren would
it? Kelly fucking wouldn’t. That’s five. That’s why I’m already and I’m pretty sure. Vinny – that’s right. Katherine – But also I think Ava. Ava would strongly debate it, but I don’t think that’s a difficult conversation to have with people and be like she’s already
f**king won. It’s her 3rd time here, her resume. She sent f**king Riley home. I know she’s immediately elevated on that. Vinny – yeah. Katherine – She’s getting a check for being a villain again. She’s building her brand back up. That is the point of her being here.
2:20pm HOH room – Mickey and Vinny
Mickey – One of us would have to take a shot at Rachel, and that is something that I do know Morgan and I would do. Vinny – Yeah. Mickey – Because for our game, which is what’s most important, she would have to get out. Like, obviously, as long as we’re able to preserve ourselves long enough to where we do make that move. We would do it. So it’s not just them. We would. I don’t think Will would and I don’t think Ava would ever, but I know that that’s
what I know that we would. You know what I mean? Plus whatever those look like. And that’s an eventual thing because I mean, we. I don’t want to, we can’t go, you know, wait till like final three. Three people have already said if Rachel’s sitting final two, they will vote for her to win. Vinny – I know. Mickey – And you only need 4 to win. It’s been a consensus in the house that everyone would. Vinny – And I’ll be honest, maybe I’m naive. I was dumb because I always thought like, there’s no way that I would vote for her to win, but if she as a return, the only returning player, a winner is sitting right now. You do deserve it, because how the f**k did you? How in the world did you end up in this? In the top spot? Mickey – I agree. That is crazy. So whoever is sitting next to her, whoever thought to take her, I would say you don’t deserve it. Because you didn’t think this through. Vinny – No.
So actually, you’re right. She might have mine too. Mickey – Yeah, it’s because it would be so undeniably impressive.
3:20pm Gym – Rachel and Keanu
Rachel – It is what it is. This is where we’re at. So like, I just hope I don’t want to go on the block. I know that’s just, that’s the primary goal. And that should be your primary goal too. Keanu – I understand that you don’t want actually to go up, but if Ashley doesn’t go because you’re fighting so hard and you end up going, that’s not going to be a good look. Rachel – I mean, I’m not, obviously. I’m not fighting for anyone but myself to be off the block. But like I don’t know what else. I don’t know what I can do. So like I need it like Intel, I need something. I don’t f**king know what to do. Keanu – The only intel I have is that the only three people that he’s even considering is Katherine, you and Ashley. Rachel – OK. Keanu – But he doesn’t want to put up Katherine because he knows that she is ultimately a number towards getting Mickey evicted, which he eventually wants to do, right? So that’s his reason for not wanting her to go. But then he knows that if he puts up Ashley, you’re going to be coming after him and he knows that if he takes a shot at you and misses, you’re going to be coming after him. So either way he’s so like he’s leaning towards Katherine, but he does not want to do that. So I don’t even know where the f**k Will came out of, because now I’m actually doing the math and I’m like, do I want Will to go home? No. But I know he also wants to keep Kelley. He said if he won, he would actually consider using the veto and Kelley. He’s confusing the sh*t out of me. Rachel – Are you sure that he’s even telling you the truth then? Keanu – I mean he has no reason to lie to me for sure, but like that makes no sense for him to want to keep Kelley. Rachel – Well for the same reason he wants to keep Katherine. But if he if he was going to use a veto on Kelley that means he would have to put up another renom, which means that his ideal scenario at this whole time would have been to back door someone. Keanu – Well, because I think he wants to get rid of either Mickey as a consolation possibly get rid of Ashley. But he knows that if he gets rid of her he’s going to upset you too. And he just built that bridge and he doesn’t want to burn it.
Rachel – OK. If it came down to it, would you vote to evict me? Keanu – No, of course not. Especially if me and Ashley obviously wouldn’t. Rachel – Yeah, I need 4 votes. No, I need 5. Keanu – But I can’t dictate what other people do. But I don’t think you’re going to be up there. I don’t think Vince has the pulse to do that. I really don’t. I’m so confident. Rachel – He is going to do whatever Morgan tells him to do. Keanu – Then I don’t know what to say. Honestly I don’t think he has the balls to put you up.. If he doesn’t have the balls to put you up, he’s not going to do it, you know what I mean. So he is probably going to put up Katherine.
3:30pm HOH room – Rachel and Vinny
Vinny – Nobody would pair us on the block together, right? Because other than maybe Katherine. Rachel – yeah. Vinny – I can’t imagine a scenario where you and me are on the block together, where me and Will are on the block together. Maybe me and Morgan, because people know and that’s public and who cares? Like people know we’re friends. Rachel – But even if that’s the case, I still think there’s safety in the numbers of one of us coming off or people willing to play veto to get one of us off and then have the numbers for the other person, whatever. I think at the end of the day it is like just the best to like just ride with this alliance, right? Like the safest bet for us all. I really think it is and we all have like proven track records. Vinny – yeah I really think it’s the safest play and I know the other few people on the other side, you know, the Kelley and the Katherine are telling me. You will look like a spineless weasel essentially. In other words, if you do not put Rachel up like that is crazy like, but obviously they don’t know I have been building any kind of relationship. So obviously they would say that because outsider wise it would only make sense. But also like one of them is going to leave this week. Rachel – exactly one of them will leave.
Vinny – I think that if I talk to him (Keanu) and I tell him it’s Katherine (renom). He can understand. I talked to Lauren and I take the approach that you just laid out beautifully. I think he’ll understand. And then I really only upset two people, Kelley and Katherine. One of them goes home. I have protection from you guys coming into a potential double or whatever, and then hopefully. It’s like we’re all in this alliance together. Rachel – So it’s like at the end of the day, it’s fine and Keanu is not going to turn on you because he needs you.
Storage Room – Rachel and Keanu
Rachel – So the pitch was fine, but I also came up with another one that I think he understood better. But I don’t know.. Keanu – what was it? Rachel – Just like, he’s like, so concerned about Lauren being mad at him. And I was like, well, then you need to be telling Lauren that if her and Katherine are seen as a duo, that they’ll go on the block next to each other. And so you’re doing her a favor. Keanu – That’s good. Rachel – Did you tell him that? You won’t take a shot at me, but you don’t care if he does. Keanu – OK, no! Rachel – Well, that’s what he told me. Keanu – Oh my God, the craziness in here, bro. You gonna throw? How you gonna throw me under the bus? He might as well put me up now. Rachel – I didn’t believe it, but I’m just telling you. Keanu – that’s pretty crazy for him to like. Why would you say that and then expect you not to tell me that? Rachel – Because he doesn’t know that we like each other. Keanu – OK. Well, I guess that makes sense. That’s pretty crazy though. That’s dumb. I told you, I’ve been advocating for you not to. So you would think that he would have some sort of context clues as to like OK, we at least had needed her around in some capacity.
3:45pm – 4:08pm HOH room – Vinny and Lauren
Vinny continues to voice his frustration regarding the veto.
Vinny – If it was a 9 person jury, I would have put all up. I just would have nominated Mickey, Rachel, Ashley straight up. Don’t give a f**k. Have fun. But even if I do go the Katherine renom route because it’s the quote unquote, safe play. On the other side, you still have me, you have Ava, you have Keanu. And you have whoever stays between Kelley and Katherine. But they’re gonna look at each other over us. We’re gonna be overlooked. We’re just the island over thinkers who are friends and we f**ked up and we’re just gonna go sit
down now. Lauren – But the indecisiveness is what makes me not want, is what makes people not want me in jury. Vinny – No, they they said they want you in jury over Kelley. That was the last thing that Rachel said before she left.
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Please put Rachel up.
I just don’t understand how people can stan Rachel this season. Congrats winning season 13. I can respect she at least says that Brendon had a hand in her winning and says that Brendon and I won because he literally did just that with her. But her whole Hollier than thou schtick this season is just asinine. The whole Medusa, Rachel , Ava , peach gobler gambit is just trash on bb for slowing this to continue.
Vinces only play is to put up rachel and hope for a tie vote.
If Rachel is on the block come eviction time, we will see how stupid the houseguests really are! She should be evicted unanimously!
Ashley wishes Vince would put up Keanu. “He won’t … He knows he’s at the bottom of our five he’s not dumb”
Mickey – Vince isn’t with us
Did Ashley forget Mickey isn’t part of the “judges” here? Mickey probably didn’t notice.
Fuck man as the only person here whos ever stuck up for vinny at this point im on board with vinny is a little bitch. Jesus christ dude you fucked up my nominating Kelly and ava. Now you are fucked both ways. I kinda get why you wouldn’t want to nom racheal (because production wont let her leave like this Game is 100 percent rigged) but if he had nominated Ashley Rachel and mickey to begin with hed at least get one of their numbers out. He’s at the bottom of their totem poll anyways and racheal will def nominate him even he doesn’t put her as the renom. Fuckin little bitch man and I garuntee he puts up Katherine as the renom because he is a scared bitch. Only way he stays as a player I like is if he nuts up amd puts up racheal or at least Ashley. But he wont…..
I can respect that you were repping Vince because honestly, I didn’t necessarily have anything against the guy per se before last week. However, in the last four days, he has completely screwed up everything for the other side where he could’ve been in the best spot of that six ! Had he just kept Rylie ——he could have thrown the damn hoh to Katherine and allowed her to take that damn shot at Rachel’s side! The fact Rachel and Morgan are coming at him this hard with all this pressure should tell him everything he needs to know. VINCE You’re a short term number for these people! Spot number 5 of 5 in this alliance. They can easily bring Mickey back into the fold too. WAKE THE MOTHER EFFin UP!
It’s truly sickening how badly vince has screwed over Lauren to where most people rip Lauren a new one completely misinterpret the blame trying to embrass her and talk about how Rachel is some prophet with how her words came through when its been Vince snakeing Lauren
Vince options.
Kat: burns Keanu, burns Lauren burns survivor of Kat or Kelley.
Rachel: burns Morgan, burns Will.
Keanu: not doing that.
Ashley: burns Rachel Morgan and Will.
LONG GAME:
Burning Keanu and Lauren and the survivor of Kelley or Kat. That means he goes on the block with 2 of the Judges… and who do the judges vote to keep (it’s not Vince). Who do the people he backstabbed AGAIN keep… it’s not Vince.
Burning Morgan and Will and Rachel means Will and Rachel put up Vince, but he has some votes to stay from the crayon crew but enough votes?
In any variation post renom this week, Vince loses votes to keep him if he is on the block.
This is the reality of the situation. Vince makes his next visit to the block do or die in Veto or blockbuster because he does not have the votes if he burns the crayons, and he doesn’t have the votes if he is on the block with the judges he is beneath the bottom to them. If he puts up Ashley as a place holder, how dare he and he is targeted by people that wouldn’t vote to keep him anyway.
SHORT GAME:
He puts up Ashley and he is tie breaker most likely and has to show cards. The i was forced thing won’t work 2 weeks in a row.
So Vince shows his cards with the renom in terms of the crayon crew, or he shows his card with a tie breaker vote to whichever side… unless Ashley were to get a gimme in the blockbuster like Mickey did. Storyline is not getting rid of someone playing with production as a prodopet most likely.
Kat on the block… just to keep her? no. If she’s the renom he has to keep Kelley and she’s livid. If he keeps Kat she’s livid because he lied to her… in his head he’s thinking he has her snowed maybe. So either way he makes an enemy.
Vince has essentially caused his own doom here. Either way he’s screwed because he tried to play cute and thought he could lie his way through ANOTHER week as HOH.
With all that said….
he most likely puts up Kat. Why?
New school. I said it days ago. The way new school works is only half the cast has storyline, and the other half are plus ones. Kat was the showmance plus one to storyline.
She has no story.
If he’s going to show his cards, throw Rachel up there. I think he can get Morgan on board to vote her out.
did that social media check i said i was going to do.
In five minutes I counted 30 “send her out to her cowboy” tweet/skeet posts from people that last week posted ‘save her from that man”.
This tells me it was never about her safety for a lot of viewers, it was about keeping their faves safe in the game.
This is one of the biggest reasons I write here and don’t engage with the stan zealots on platforms. Their hypocrisy and fakeness is gross.
oh. 31. now. eyeroll. going to stop looking because i’m getting depressed for the state of human social evolution.
All Vince had to do was vote Morgan out then he could’ve thrown it to katherine and katherine could’ve taken a shot at Rachel’s Co. He would have been in one of the best spots of that 6 person younger group. Now he is at the bottom of the judges who could conceivably rope in Mickey to take his place and leave him out in the cold. This hoh has been a complete disaster!
It’s really frustrating to see how much Vince has undermined Lauren, leading many to unfairly criticize her instead. They misinterpret the situation and act as if Rachel has some kind of prophetic insight, when in reality, it’s Vince who has betrayed Lauren.
I have absolutely no doubt that Vinny will stay true to his form for the whole game and show once again that he is spineless by nominating………………………..Katherine.
Why? Because he’s Vinny, and the heat in the kitchen is already too hot for him. It’s just too much for one “He-man” to take.
Besides – she voted against Morgan don’tchaknow, and we just can’t have that.
Have had a bad feeling since Kelley has gone up. It is getting beyond ridiculous what Vinny is doing. He keeps avoiding Rachel and peach gobler. Isn’t even putting together that Morgan is giving out his information. Not saying Lauren is a great player. But truthfully her game is overly criticized and isn’t near as bad as it is made off because of VINCE. She honestly has been screwed over by this guy the whole year. Kelley has a reason to be mad at him too. What Vince has done in only a handful days is just horrible gameplay. He snaked those girls for Rachel’s side and literally screwed the 6 alliance over. Vince could have been in a remarkable position in the house with a prime spot in that alliance. If he had just Kept Rylie and thrown Kat the hoh. He would be sitting in a good spot. Instead chooses to be at the bottom with Rachel and Mickey potientially take his 5th spot? The math ain’t mathing. Kelly wants a final 2 with Vince and he is throwing her away at 11.
Vince is a genuine jackass, he keeps putting up people he’s aligned with
he should have put up Mickey, Ashley, & Rachel
Vinny should tell Mickey about the Judges and that she was their target. Cause a blow up, create chaos and take your shot at Rachel. Well, that’s just a fantasy.
that would assume vince is a much better player than he is.
i don’t agree with his desire to work with morgan, to me she’s just an anchor dragging down the game of everyone she interacts with, but even not working with her doing whatever it takes to cause a rift between her and mickey so they target each other is beneficial to everyone else’s longevity in the game.
Vince’s social game is making his HOH game a disaster.For example he has a final two with so many House guest he lost count…. Getting rid of Rachel is to make himself the main target. Better to keep her and get rid of comp beast Keanu
yeah… his strategy should rely on throwing comps, not winning them
Imagine if Vince had just voted to keep Rylie and thrown hoh to Katherine.