“He sacrificed himself to save us. That’s been killing me & I haven’t been able to talk about it with anyone.”

Quick Big Brother Spoilers

Head of Household: Rachel
Nominees: Mickey, Morgan, Vinny
POV Players: Mickey, Morgan, Vinny, Will, Rachel, Lauren with Rylie as the host
POV Winner: Lauren
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: ?

9:40pm – 10:14pm Gym – Lauren and Morgan
Lauren – How are you feeling? Morgan – Stressed. If you want my honest truth, stressed. If I’m being fully honest. I did the math and if I’m on the block that I had to go home. Which is why I’m stressed. Because I’ve spoken to some people already and like I know certain people no matter what are if the Noms stay the same, are voting to keep Mickey no matter what. And I know some people are voting to keep Vince no matter what. Nobody was going to keep me no matter what, you know what I mean. Lauren – Do you mind sharing who would keep making no matter what? Well, I know. The only people that I know for sure are Will and I think Ava.
Morgan – There’s something I want to tell you that he did, that he would have done for both of us. Which is the only thing that still, like, eats me alive, because it’s like when you have somebody that’s willing to do what he did. It’s like, wow. Like he’s one of those selfish people I’ve ever met in my life. Lauren, you know what I mean? Like, he will be one of my best friends forever, you know?
Sorry, this is just a lot, so just bear with me. Take your time. When he was out there with Rachel and you know, like when they were both in the block, I was trying so hard to make sure that we could get both of them off. Like Keanu had said some stuff that I used against him and he tried to gas on me, all the stuff, whatever. But I had stuff against Keanu. But he fucking won and we had to vote him, like we had to vote between the two. So it was just really frustrating, and I just know that. Zach would have wanted us to work together, you know, like, and I want to work if you want, like. And I’m not saying that because you
have the veto like. Please understand it, you know. I know that. It’s just really hard because I know if I’m sitting on that block and go home, picture you, only I go home.
And the only thing, and I don’t want you to feel guilty. Like if you choose not to use the beat others, I’m not trying to force you. I’m just literally saying if I’m on that blog, I go home. I’ve done them out. The only way I can stay is if I win the blockbuster. But if I don’t
win that blockbuster, which is a 2 to one chance, I go home, you know? So it’s hard and I don’t want you to feel.

Morgan – I swore to Zach that I would never tell anyone this. But he’s not here, and I feel like. I don’t know if it would even make a difference, but I just know that. He would want us to work together, but. I just hope he doesn’t kill me. I don’t think he’s gonna kill me, but sorry, I have to separate these. And to my knowledge I’m the only person that knows this so. Zach. Zach could have taken himself off the block. When he won that $10,000. He had a veto and whoever the act of HOH was would have gotten the money. But he didn’t because we were in danger.
Lauren – OH MY GOD!
Morgan – But he chose not to come off because the renoms could have been, well, I was probably one of them, but you could have been the other. And he’s like, I wouldn’t have been able to live with myself if one of us went home.
Lauren – OH MY GOD! THATS INSANE!
Morgan – He sacrificed himself to save us. That’s been like killing me and I haven’t been able to talk about it with anyone because nobody knows. And I again, don’t want you to feel pressured to use it but I just don’t want to go home.
Lauren – I can’t believe that! Morgan – I know I couldn’t either.
Lauren – That’s crazy! Well first of all give me a hug. I can tell you whatever happens this week.. ah.. god! I really don’t see you going home. I don’t know what to do. Morgan – well talk me through it. We can put my game aside. I obviously want you to do what’s best for your game. Lauren – lets say Vince comes off.. we would have to know who the renom is. Morgan – she is not going to tell us. And if Vince comes down, and that renom goes up and wins (blockbuster), I go home next to Mickey. Lauren – I don’t know if you do. Morgan pulls out her m&ms to school Lauren on the numbers.
Morgan – you need 5 to win. And I know, I’m just going to be honest with you, Lauren. I know that Katherine and Rylie have a better relationship with Mickey than they do me, and it only takes five votes to stay and I would go home even if you voted for me.
Morgan – I don’t want you to do anything you’re not comfortable with, but I know a lot of people would support you using the veto, like a lot of people I know would. Hope that you’d use the veto, because I feel like all three people that are up on the block right now are good for everyone’s game, and there’s people that aren’t good for people’s game that are off
the block. The only reason why I’m essentially like asking if you would consider me is because I know. That I don’t have the numbers and it’s only because Katherine and Rylie have a better relationship with both of them than I do.
Morgan – She did imply that there is a bigger target off the block. Lauren – I heard that too. Who is it though? Morgan – I’m going to assume it’s Kelly or Keanu. Those are
the only two that makes sense because there’s no other bigger target that is off the block. Lauren – I know Keanu’s read on this game is wrong pretty much all of the time, but he said that he’s 95% sure that he is not going to be put up, so he doesn’t care what I do.

Morgan – For me, and I want to play with you. I don’t want to play against you. Lauren – Me too. Morgan – 100%, you know, 100%. Because, like, if I’m being honest, Lauren, like you, Vince and Mickey. I would say I’m like, pretty good with Ashley too, but like. All I have. Like, I love Rylie, but we don’t talk like that. Me and Katherine don’t talk like that. Me and Rachel are cool now, but I don’t. I mean, I’m on the block. Yeah, you know, me and Will are cool because he’s like the dad of the house. It’s hard because I care about people that are on the block. And you you know, so it’s like. There’s just a high chance that if you don’t use the veto, only I do go. And I don’t want you to feel guilty but that’s the reality. Are you afraid that if Vince is still on the block he will go home? Lauren – I think there is a potential for him to go home. I think that he would go home against Mickey and I think he might go home against you.
Morgan – it is okay if you want to use it on Vince but I will go home. .. But I don’t want you to feel bad.

Lauren – I don’t know. I’m so bad at this. Morgan – Why do you think you’re bad at it, Lauren? Lauren – I’m so I just. I don’t know. I wish I had like a answer for everyone. Morgan – Let’s take everyone ‘s, because I’m sure you were probably super overwhelmed with everyone in their questions and whatever. Like, let’s take all that away. What do you want? Like, think about the kind of player you want to be in this game. Like, why you came here. I know you came here for a lot of reasons when you’re super fan, you know, you said your grandmother loved the show, right? Yeah. So you have, like, a lot of reasons why you’re here and a lot of things you want to do. I mean, you won OTEV, girl. That’s freaking bada$$! Obviously if you use the veto on Vince. Like, to be honest with you, my only pitch to you was to use the veto. Like obviously I don’t want to go home, I want to come off the block, but I truly think that
using the veto is best this week because the renom, I’m almost positive, will be either Kelley or Keanu. I don’t think it matters who. The my chances of going home are increasing.
If the veto is not used on me, obviously because I’m not going to be safe still, you know what I mean? So and that’s OK. I don’t want you to feel like you have to use it on me. Like if you want to show that card, I’m fine with that. Like I really don’t care anymore.

10:40pm Morgan coaches Lauren what she could say to Rachel – So I feel like this could be your chance where you could but just, you know, it’s Rachel. She’s won this game before, so you have to just be mindful of like giving too much information because there is such a thing to give too much information to people. So it could easily just be like, yeah, I’m going to use the veto but I’m still deciding between two people, you know, and I’ll know tomorrow which one, but just know that I am going to use it. So that way she at least knows that you’re going to use it. And then the renom is really none of your business and it’s up to her. You know what I mean? That’s the angle I would take.

Morgan – The renom doesn’t really matter, but just know the risk of depending on who you pull off, the risk of whoever goes home. I’m obviously saying that because I know I’ll go home if I’m in the block, but like in any case, like moving forward, like that’s the risk that people take. Like when you take someone off the block from a veto, you’re usually saving someone who usually will go home or who you want to save for your team. It could just depends on the move that you want to make. It’s good to hear opinions obviously and one thing I do know about Rachel is she obviously likes things to happen that’s better for her game. Like, if I had to bet money, I feel like if she won the veto, she would pull me off. I’m not even joking. I don’t know why I have a feeling like that. Maybe it’s just because I’m on the block, but like, based on our conversations that we’ve had, I feel like she would pull me off the block.

11:25pm Bathroom – Katherine and Lauren
Katherine – I really really think he will (Vinny stays). And I think the only way Mickey or Morgan go is if the noms stay the same because other people want Vinny here. I think Morgan and Mickey will both stay if someone else goes up, no matter who it is because it is just going to be an easier decision to make. And I don’t think Mickey wants you here, I think Mickey would put you up if she gets HOH again or you would be a renom. I am so serious, from what I’ve heard. But I think taking Vinny down is a risk with that but I understand you wanting to protect Vinny. I just don’t know how worth it, it actually is. Lauren – Morgan and Mickey were both begging me.. Katherine – I know. Lauren – even if it is not on themselves. Katherine – they’re well aware they’re probably going to stay if they’re next to anybody else on the block. Lauren – Morgan is fully convinced she is going home no matter what. Katherine – I mean its not your job to convince her otherwise. That’s not your job. You won the veto and you didn’t put her on the block. She needs to chill out. She needs to chill the f**k out. At the end of the day you didn’t put any of those people on the block. If you do use it though it will be a much easier week because whoever goes up will go. Lauren – Why am I so stress about this? Katherine – because they’re pressuring you to use it. Lauren – I just need to make sure Vinny stays. Katherine – he will. Lauren – if you keep him. Katherine – for sure, but if you use it, I won’t be mad at you either.

12:20am Hammock – Morgan, Will and Ashley
Morgan is venting and ranting. Will and Ashley are just listening. Ava joins them.
Morgan – He (Keanu) literally annoys me at this point. Well, I mean, there’s still a
veto and I feel like it could be used. And a back door could be in play. And if I’m still on the block, you already know I’m gonna get down. I’m gonna fight. Hopefully I can win the blockbuster.. Freaking amazing if he does, if he gets backdoored, I’m almost 98. No 99.9% positive she’s going to use a veto. Ava – Oh, cool. Will – Fire gas gas cool. Ava – OK, Sounds good to me. Morgan – It’s just with him, he’s very composed in. I mean, I was hoping especially last week that he wouldn’t have gotten it, but he does well under pressure it’s clear.

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Here is what I am thinking after feeds go down for the ceremony.
Kat and Riley both know Vince was safe if he stayed on the block.
Kelley knows Vince was safe if he stayed on the block.
Keanu knows Vince was safe if he stayed on the block.
Lauren using veto means Lauren doesn’t trust the people she said she wanted to work with to keep Vine because Vince has been saying use it and blame them.
Vince wants off the block for two reasons: the sane one and the save Mickey and Morgan reason.
So Vince is already plotting how to save the people half the house wants to target.
Anyone that is replacement nom KNOWS they are on the block because of Vince and Lauren at this point.
EVERYONE now knows Rachel did not want to choose a renom. Everyone knows whoever is renom is because of Vince and Lauren not trusting them. That SHOULD be how they see it.
Rachel now has deniability in the sense that while the screens went to WBRB… she told Lauren it would likely be Kat or Riley. It would NOT be Kelley.

So…
Where do Vince and Lauren stand in the game after this?
Ava, Ashley, Will think he’s a snake already.
Now the side that liked him thinks he’s a snake too, and they no longer trusts Lauren.

Does this mean congratulations… your side just got picked for you Vince and Lauren and the population is 2?

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

OH, MY GOD!!! My worst nightmare just happened! Lauren pulled down Vince & Rachel put up Rylie! The ONLY way this works out is if Rylie wins Blockbuster! Otherwise, HE goes home & the entire Snake Alliance remains completely intact! I can’t believe she did that! She’s definitely not the same Rachel this season. She used to be more decisive & her decisions were good. As soon as she made the PERFECT NOMS, she started second-guessing herself. After noms, she was more like Lauren than the old Rachel. Sure, everyone who is now on the block must go home ASAP to make the show watchable. But, as Keanu just told Rachel in an emergency meeting of their Final2, the ORDER they go is CRITICAL! He emphasized the 2 words in all-caps. He’s hurt because she didn’t even raise his(Rylie’s) name as a possibility beforehand. They had a pre-veto ceremony Final 2 meeting last night to go over the various scenarios if Lauren used the veto. The meeting lasted 2 hours. She never mentioned Rylie’s name. She mentioned Kelley’s name & left it at that. Keanu tried to get her to renom Ashley, but Rachel refused, so Keanu grudgingly accepted Kelley, who IS coming after them both, after all, as the renom. Between then & now, they met a couple of times, but nothing of any significance changed after last night’s marathon meeting. Then she goes & does THIS!!! PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE, RYLIE, PLEASE WIN THE Blockbuster!!! Otherwise this season’s going down the toilet & the final 3 will be MickMorAsh & Mother Superior will probably win it all. UGH!!! And, even if she doesn’t, it will either be the Slitherer or Shower Girl & neither of them is much better! Rylie’s gotta win Blockbuster OR ELSE!!!

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Rylie and Mickey are both noped to me. I do not care which goes as long as a nope leaves because i am petty that way.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

I wish your suggestion would happen, but, sadly, I think not. MickMorAsh will probably string them both along as “allies”, only to dump them as soon as their numbers are insurmountable, which will be soon if Rylie doesn’t win Blockbuster.

The Beef

I’m always behind you guys because I just don’t have the time to spend being on this page 24/7, so it takes me some time to read the updates, and all the posts to catch up.

Anyway, I posted on the previous update that what Rachel should do to keep Lauren from using the Veto was exactly what she did do – say that the re-nom would be either Rylie or Katherine, and that should be enough, along with the knowledge that Vince had the votes to stay, for Lauren to put the Veto back in the box unused.

For a so-called “super-fan” Lauren damn sure has a hard time making decisions, and understanding the nuances of the game. I get that trust is a hard thing to have inside the house, but she should know who is with who for the most part, at least at this point in the game, and therefore who would most likely vote for Vince to stay against either Morgan or Mickey. Vince should have Lauren, Rylie, Katherine, Kelley and Keanu – that’s FIVE and that’s enough!

It’s possible Kelley could flip, but would she do that to save either Morgan or Mickey? I just don’t think so.

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Lauren DID know that it would not be Kelley.
Problem:
Vince told her it was a bluff and of course the renom was Kelley.
Lauren believed Vince.
Vince is telling everyone now that he is safe that he is of course voting with them to get out Mickey or Morgan. He’s lying. He let slip at least 4 times last night about how HE would nominate Mickey himself next week to try to get Lauren to use the veto on him.
She glossed over it.

The Beef

I never expected Rachel to actually nominate the guy. I’m wondering if the d/r meeting had more to do with that happening, or if she thinks he’ll actually win the Block Buster and keep both M&M on the block as the reason for the re-nom.

Just threatening the showmance was enough to possibly damage her relationship with them going forward. Actually nominating one of them may make Rachel PE #1 for both Rylie and Katherine from now on.

Lauren? She’s dumber than a stump.

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Lauren has stumbled on a melting pot meeting and has joined in…. now that Vince is safe.
Lauren said she wanted Mickey out to Vince. So why is he meeting with HER target.
So…. she KNOWS now that her big save of her fake f2 was oops.

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Post veto ceremony results are a head scratcher.
Kelley is mad she isn’t the renom.
Kelley says Rachel refuses to put 3 poc on the block because of optics.
Kelley tells Kat that Riley is the target.
Kat is mad that nobody listens to her. Even Riley told her she was wrong when she correctly told both Lauren and Riley what was about to happen with veto.
Lauren says she thought Rachel was bluffing. So did Vince. Vince did not give a shit, he just wanted off the block. Understandable but in terms of game ownership.
It’s not Lauren’s fault that using the veto put one of her allies on the block after she was warned using the veto would put one of her allies on the block.

Yeah I’m a big believer in game ownership… and this season very few people own game.

Ashley is pitching for Morgan to be let into the club to Rachel. Rachel is still saying she admitted she was targeting me, so why would I do that?
Kelley is pitching the Keanu alliance… without Keanu. (side member not a real member because…. this is where i get confused… Keanu and Rachel didn’t prove their loyalty to Kelley by putting Kelley on the block????? I dunno… that’s where i’m scratching my head).
Mickey is promising Riley she will vote out Morgan. Whether this is because Mickey wants Riley’s vote or the long held suspicion that Mickey wants herself a meatshield… unknown.
Mickey would NOT have Ava’s vote against Rylie on the block.

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MY mistake?
I looked at what would be the case if ANY of these people were playing Big Brother.
They are not. They are playing big baby goes to summercamp.

Gan ainm

If Lauren eats all the m&m’s, she should win the season.

Gan ainm

I retract that statement, littlebabygirl is on my last nerve.

Adrian for AFP

That would have been awesome!

Gan ainm

I don’t feel bad for Lauren for having to listen to Morgan go on and on, I don’t feel bad for Morgan for Laurens lack of response, I feel bad for myself for foolishly listening to this conversation.

Nix Pix

I feel bad for anyone that has to listen to Morgan or Mickey talk. Maybe every time Morgan and Mickey start to talk, someone can throw an M&M in their mouth to shut it down. lol

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

THAT would be great!

JustMyOpinion

Yeah you and me both.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

What I don’t get is this: didn’t Rachel promise Keanu that she was going to “babysit” Lauren & “follow her around like a puppy dog” until the veto ceremony?! Didn’t she? Then, why isn’t she? She told Keanu she was going to “break up every conversation” the M&M girls try to have with Lauren. She hasn’t done any of that. She hasn’t even tried to follow Lauren around. She hasn’t even tried to break up one convo, let alone all of them. Instead, she’s allowed Mickey,Morgan,Vince&Ashley to do that & do it relentlessly. They’re getting away with it! Promising little miss gullible the moon&the stars, all the while they continue to not so secretly plot to target HER right after they get rid of Rachel! And, predictably, she’s buying what they’re selling. This is not going to end well. I lay most of the fault at the feet of those 3 witches from the Scottish play: MickMorAsh. I lay a small piece of the fault at the small feet of the small boy trapped in the small man’s body. But, truly, I can’t really blame the guy. All the scaredycat is doing is crying(literally)to his mommy(Lauren): Help me, please help me, mommy! I lay part of the fault at Lauren’s feet because, again predictably, she’s picking up what they’re laying down. Finally & sadly, I lay a sizable chunk of the fault at the feet of my girl, Rachel, who, possibly fatally, dropped the ball big-time, after promising to take the ball all the way to the end zone. Her failure to do what she said she would do may end up being her downfall this season. And that would be…….sad.

Sally

Yeah for the first time this season, Rachel got sloppy

PatsiLou

I thought the same thing, as I held my tablet up to my ear, so I could listen to Lauren and Morgan whispering about absolutely nothing! What a ding dong I am!!!!

BB Fanatic

Morgan fuq you, now I really want you to go home. You and Mickey are both so delusional

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Agreed.

Gan ainm

Listen to Kat, Lauren.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

PLEASE!!!

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

I wish to God she had! Even though ALL her allies told her Vince would win the vote vs either of the M&M girls, she apparently didn’t trust her own allies. She vetoed Vince’s nom. Rachel renommed Rylie. And so, the nightmare begins. The only possible happy ending to the nightmare is Rylie winning Blockbuster. If not, the nightmare & this season will end very badly!

Gan ainm

Great now we get a dr call for Lauren who can’t make a decision for herself. Perfect timing.

Danny

Lauren is beautiful but she is the worst player ever.wherr do they find these idiots. Zach deserves to go home. Hed protecting the girls? Did he sign up for BB or a butt kisser show. C’mon CBS stop inviting durschbags on the show. This is not a soap opera, or is it?

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Good question.

The Beef

Zach wasn’t protecting anybody. He was protecting those 100 Benjamin’s.

Nicole

Morgan is annoying so is Mickey. I hope one of them gets out this week! Morgan your making no sense lol

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

True,but,sadly, with Lauren, making sense is unnecessary.

modern bb is rigged

I really wanted to like Morgan in this game but she really burying herself sticking with Mickey all this time when so many obvious signs to ditch her.

Morgan Plays on Easy Mode

I mean (Points at my own name)

Same.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Touche!

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Guess, deep down, she’s a masochist. She must like Mickey to bully,dominate&always tell her what to say&do. Otherwise,why stick to Mother Superior like glue?

Gan ainm

Come on Rachel, scare the little babydoll twit.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

That would work, but this season’s Rachel is the George Herbert Walker Bush version: the kinder,gentler Rachel.

Gan ainm

Rachel is running with her own narrative even though the only thing little baby girl fears more than Rachel is making a decision.

Gan ainm

Great! Rachel is getting counsel from Keanu and Ashley and even the dr won’t let Rachel in. They are going to ruin our Mickey eviction.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Sadly, you’re probably going to be right.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Even sadder still, you were right!

Gan ainm

I’m so proud of Keanu, he finally said something that made sense in his convo with little baby girl Lauren.

Gan ainm

I’m just gonna say this as delicately as I can, I wish Lauren was the one in a showmance with Rylie.

JustMyOpinion

Rylie should be in a showmance with himself.

TennisAnyone

Cuz he’s a total narcissist.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Impossible to say such a horrible thing delicately. You need to take that back ASAP! No one should wish Rylie on ANYONE EVER!!! Not even the M&M girls.

Gan ainm

Other than Vince and Kat, anyone who tries to have a conversation with Lauren would want to slap her like an old TV that is in the fritz.

Sally

She doesn’t talk to Vince or Kat that way… it’s definitely an act

Kenneth

I would wish him on any female..

Don't Shoot the Messenger

I hope you meant WOULDN’T.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

That HAD TO BE a TYPO, right?! You meant to type: “wouldn’t” & it came out “would”, RIGHT?! That has to be it! I gave you a thumbs up, because I believe deep down that you were trying to type: “I WOULDN’T WISH HIM ON ANY FEMALE..” RIGHT!!!

Gan ainm

Yes, Rachel, push her not to use it. Scare the littlebabygirl, make her cry if you have to.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Not gonna happen. Not this season’s Rachel.

Gan ainm

I clearly need to stop watching the feeds. My apologies.

Morgan Plays on Easy Mode

Lol

I appreciate the up to date commentary personally

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The late night escapades
Everyone Lauren is semi close to promises Vince is safe.
Vince whines to use the veto to save him.
Vince is told by Lauren to smooth things with Rachel. Vince shits his pants. He and Rachel have a great conversation.
Meanwhile
Morgan keeps Lauren in the gym for over an hour to try to get the veto used on her over Vince. Using those fuqing m&m’s.
Lauren gets called to d/r after speaking to Kat who tells her do not use it.
almost an hour in the d/r later….
Lauren tells Rachel she thinks she’s going to use veto when some hosueguests have already gone to bed…. but then says she isn’t sure but will tell Rachel in the morning.
OF COURSE SHE WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL RIGHT BEFORE THE CEREMONY… DID YOU MISS HER HOH?
Rachel is non plus that she is being held up by procrastination and can’t plan what to do and speak to people because Lauren has left it so late.
Lauren goes to storage room where Morgan and VInce await to say Rachel is just gaslighting Lauren.
Rachel walks in.
Assumes the two are trying to intimidate Lauren. Goes mom about it.
Rachel with Keanu doesn’t name the replacement but does say Kelley or showmance possible for chaos.
Kenau runs to try to logic Lauren not to use it.
Rachel repeats to Ashley who pushes Rylie or Kat noms (remember that has been her goal since week 3 when she was told they don’t like her.
Ashley, back to keep Mickey in the game, and get out Riley, is pushing Lauren to use the veto.
Remember, Rachel doesn’t want it used but hey.
Keanu tells Vince it would be Kelley.
Like Vince gives 2 shits about Kelley.
Vince goes to Lauren to say Kelley will get over it and what is Rachel going to do about it.
Vince is lying to Lauren that he would evict Mickey. He would not.
He’s slipped four or five times. he wants the melting pot 3 to stay together.
Rachel exits D/R. I think she gave them a chaos bomb and said fine i’ll put up Riley or Kat.
There’s a lot of cuts when she talks to Ashley and Keanu.
She’s saying she will convince Lauren not to use veto tomorrow.
She is speaking in a tone that is…. not good. It’s a forced friendly quiet tone. It’s not usual Rachel tone. Rachel says she didn’t want to push Lauren but she will tomorrow.

So in essence… Rachel might be sabotaging her own game while also sabotaging production storyline unless they play ball.
Vince should of course be trying to get off the block.
Lauren should technically save her final 2. Fact her final 2 is actually not her final 2 is yeesh on him but she knows he’s closer to the other noms than her so also yeesh on her.
Lauren is honestly and truthfully…. the problem here. She won’t be declarative. It’s been over a day and she didn’t start doing one on ones about veto use until the episode was starting. She has flipped back and forth. Promised a decision to Rachel… then said I’ll tell you tomorrow.
The entire chaos of the night…. really is just Lauren causing shit because she can’t answer a yes or no question.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

True, but..her action or lack thereof was predictable. What was not predictable was Rachel not doing what she promised Keanu. She hasn’t even tried to prevent the onslaught. MickMorAsh have been allowed to get away with their campaign of overwhelming, non-stop brainwashing of little lost Lauren, who’s brain isn’t even close to tough enough to resist. This is not going to end well.

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Continued escapades
Rachel apologized to Vince after being told that Lauren said to both Keanu and Ashley that Morgan and Vince were not trying to coerce her (they were).
Ashley is trying to cover her ass with Rachel (doesn’t want veto used) in case Rachel finds out Ashley pushed for veto use.
Ashley gives her some of the dirty deeds on Mickey. Some. But still won’t say which way she’ll vote she’s 50/50.
All of the things Ashley tells Rachel are to be quite frank… Ashley’s game in a nutshell.

We ‘may’ be back to a Kelley renom if the veto gets used. Who knows.

Does this hurt Rachel’s game? Let’s remember, Kelley wants to target Rachel next week.
Does this hurt my sensibilities? Yeah. I’ve got a nope on the block and a possible nope renom. I live for times like that. And instead i might get…. Kelley?

Do i find ANY of the night’s escapades sus?
The d/r calls starting and ending a couple of hours of arguing followed by status quo?
Yeah the Tinfoil aspect of me… finds that odd.

juliesfashionfails

It seemed that Lauren started telling HGs she might use the veto AFTER coming out of DR.

I think it’s PROBABLY a fake out and she has no intention of using it.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

From your lips to Grod’s & Lauren’s ears!

Adrian for AFP

She was telling some houseguests she’s using it but not Mickey. She kept telling Morgan things like, “If I use it on Vince, you’re not going home!” And Morgan argued that she would go home.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Unfortunately, it wasn’t a fake out. She used it on Vince. Rachel renommed Rylie. The only way that the 3 headed snake, MickMorAsh, loses one of it’s own is if Rylie wins Blockbuster.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Doesn’t sound like Tinfoil to me. Sounds like Grod being Grod, pushing her chosen storyline. We’ll find out at the veto ceremony what that storyline is.

un autre nom

Considering they did the softcore version of the same 2 hours in the morning…
I definitely get the feeling it’s for a block on the Wednesday episode that they needed to fill with drama.

Steveo

For Lauren’s game, she needs to not use the veto. If she wants Vince to stay, she needs to keep the nominations the same and campaign to get Mickey or Morgan out. Mickey/ Morgan (whomever stays) will always be a target before Lauren, and if they win, they will go after Rachel, Kelley, Keanu first.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Agreed.

Adrian for AFP

Mickey and Morgan WANT the VETO to be used because they think there will be a bigger target as renom.

Nix Pix

That’s sad how she said that Kenau has no one and no one would care if he left. WTH is wrong with this group of people? I’m starting to think that in order to be picked to go on BB, you have to have some type of bullying personality. They think very highly of themselves. I bet Jimmy is sitting at home thinking America is going to vote him as America’s favorite player. lmao. Morgan and Mickey need to geaux. They think they’re the next Derrick and Cody. Ava, she should be put up as a renom, then it would guarantee Morgan or Mickey goes home. But Ava, you know in real life she isn’t someone great with a kickA$$ social game, probably don’t have many friends, and guys probably don’t look her way and women like Rachel and Catherine probably would walk pass her on the street without a glance, her head is getting too big for her hat. She’s trying on this personality that doesn’t match her hats and she’s coming off as a very not so nice person (can’t say what I really think about her on here)…. As for Lauren, the girl from my hometown, she was not meant to be in this game. She can say what she wants, but Keanu is a better player than she is, why does she think everyone wants him out so bad. lol Morgan and Mickey are gas lightning her so bad that Lauren will on the block next week. I”M VOTING KEANU FOR AMERICA”S FAVORITE PLAYER.

Aunt Cece

I like Keanu and have never understood the hostility toward him from the other houseguests. I’m pulling for him to win.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Excellent choice!

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Excellent choice!

Adrian for AFP

I went to bed on the conversation because it was going nowhere! I know I’m older than Lauren, but Lauren should have not listened for long. She should have told Morgan she’s considered a floater because she has not won anything! Why would people want to keep Mickey who is a fast,, smooth talker?
Just be safe, save Vinny. Who cares who goes up or who goes home? At this point, no one is good for Lauren’s game.

juliesfashionfails

I don’t buy any of this.

Lauren seemed to consider veto use and start her talks about it AFTER she came out of DR yesterday. I don’t think she has any intent to use it.

Rachel is well seasoned with production narratives from all her years of media and programs. She’s playing along but knows Lauren is not going to use it.

Otherwise, she’d have been very clear with Lauren that the Rachel Queenship will be quite displeased.

That’s my take, we will see how it plays.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

I SO hope you’re right! But, I fear you’re wrong.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Unfortunately, you were wrong.

juliesfashionfails

Alas, tis true. One time I fully embrace a production interference theory, it goes boom.

Lord Piggly

We can only hope Kat is just going along with the storyline with Riley, and she has still stood her ground with him at times, and along with the latest ‘no’ to if he’s her boyfriend.

But I’m curious to hear what people think of her ‘sorry I kissed a boy’ statement after her last live show vote. Am I crazy to feel that it was a veiled code to her family along the lines of ‘don’t worry, I think he’s just a boy, not a man’ type thing? Or any type of sign to her family about something to do with it?

Anyway, apologies if I am over thinking this, lol.

Backseat Driver

You are not overthinking this……you are spot on….this “showmance” is fake.

Morgan Plays on Easy Mode

These girls…

ZACH DIDNT SAVE YOU FROM THE BLOCK. HE DID WHAT HE DID TO SPITE AVA AND WALKED OUT OF THE GAME 10K RICHER.

In a year or two, when he’s leaving you both on read, you’ll figure it out.

Kenneth

Just watch the playback….enough said

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

I doubt either will take the time needed to watch the playback.

d...

he walked out of the game more like $4k richer. he would’ve made an extra $6k making it to jury.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

As usual, you’re spot on.

The Beef

Please tell me how did it to spite Ava when she doesn’t even know about it?

I agree he didn’t do it to save Morgan, and Lauren wasn’t even mentioned as a replacement nom. That’s just Morgan lying to Lauren trying to appeal to her emotionally, in order to get her to use the veto on her.

Zach was cocky and thought he would win the vote AND keep the money in his pocket. That’s all it was, and Grodner tried to cover for his idiocy by making it something else editorially. Now he’s on the list of dumbest Big Brother players ever, right along side Marcellus and Lawon.

Don't Shoot the Messenger

He SAID he didn’t want Ava to get his $10,000.

The Beef

He said what the d/r told him to say. Most of those d/r’s are of them reading lines off a teleprompter, written for them by production. That line was just as honest as the lines were about him “saving” Morgan – a girl he turned down a showmance with.

juliesfashionfails

She doesn’t need to know what he was thinking in his decision, it still qualifies as a spiteful attitude towards her getting the money.

He resented giving her the money after she put him up, and his pride would not let him get over it even to guarantee he was safe.

Kenneth

I just don’t understand all the attention on Lauren, she’s just going to go back and forth with her decision or lack of for TV time until the last minute and then Not use it.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

I wish you were right, but she used it.

Kenneth

Note to Katherine’s family, I’m sure just like myself there are several men on here that would like to see Rylie talk to a man like he does your daughter. You notice he never disrespects Keanu to his face because I believe he would be sipping food through a straw the next six months. He’s a manipulator, a coward has no self esteem and thrives on controlling and bullying young women. His family must be so proud.

Tyler & Jeff are my faves

Man, did you hit that nail on the head. I, too, wish he would talk to Keanu as he does Kat. It would only happen once. Sadly though, the resulting beat down of stalker boy would likely only result in Keanu’s expulsion. As the physical aggressor, he would surely go. And,since BB doesn’t, as a rule, expel verbal abusers(CBS lives for the drama), Rylie would probably stay. Of course, now that Rachel just renommed him after Lauren pulled Vince down, our entire conversation may be moot, because, unless he wins Blockbuster, he’s gone & the 3 Headed Snake called MickMorAsh slithers away!

un autre nom

HOH Rachel
Noms Vince, Morgan, Mickey, Riley
Veto Lauren used on Vince.

What we need to know at this point.
VInce is running around saying it was Rachel nobody knew this would happen.
Rachel told Keanu that Riley might be renom lats night. He refused to believe it. AND Rachel warned Lauren that Kelley would NOT be the renom.

Robert

The feeds are feeding right now

Mean Jean

I wonder if the fact that Kats family contacted CBS about Rileys treatment of Kat is the reason he’s on the block.

Don't Shoot the Messenger

I think so. They need to get him out of that house before jury for Katherine’s safety. As much as i want Mickey to leave ASAP, this is the best way to protect Katherine without kicking Riley off the show. I’m sure he’d blow up over that, too.

I bet everyone will be told in the DR to vote out Riley.

Robert

Rachel and Keanu act like siblings…Convince me that I am wrong

Don't Shoot the Messenger

Ok, Jessica BunBun.

un autre nom

What we need to know that none of us are saying:
A couple of mainstream site/magazines have already printed the worst of collection of Riley.
There is an online petition regarding Riley.
….Tmz went with Mickey drinks lemonade from the bottle and puts it back in the fridge.

un autre nom

AFTER the veto ceremony Tmz put out a news item about Riley.
AGAIN… in keeping with my belief that the production company supplies the news items to Tmz in order to get more drama for the show seems to ring true. Here we are. Crickets until AFTER the veto ceremony. mmmhmm.

Robert

Rylie being on the block is purely his fault. 1) He did say to Katherine early on this game that he would go before her and 2) He convinced Lauren to use the veto claiming very wrongly who the renom options were after Katherine had pretty much convinced her not to

Morgan Plays on Easy Mode

If this is productions way of dealing with his harassment, it’s not cool. He needs to be evicted immediately.

And it shouldn’t be on Rachel’s HOH. This goes beyond game.

Another Dixie

Except, like in the past, they’d just announce that those on the block would be safe and no one would be voted out.

Rachel for AFP

Lauren you coward

But okay Rylie is most likely winning Block Buster

Bye M&M’s

Tracey

You’re a little behind. Lauren used the veto on Vinnie and Rachel put up Rylie. Im thinking production had something to do with this for Rylies behavior and how the viewers are very concerned. They for sure had a hand in this. Rylie wasnt Rachels target. As mush as I cant stand Rylie I hope he wins the blockbuster and either Mickey or Morgan go home. They are the worst!!! I cant believe Rachel did that.

Gan ainm

At least Rylie is the renon so one of the horrible go.

Dixie

Where’s the logic in the renom? Did I miss something?

un autre nom

Logic:
Rachel was trying to scare Lauren into not using the veto.
Lauren used the Veto.
Rachel said FAFO and put up one of the people that Lauren said she was closest to on Saturday.

Gan ainm

It’s Rachel, no logic. If her ego were not in the way she would have seen that Ashley is closer to Mickey than her and put her up as the renom.

Robert

Rachel was thinking in terms of Big moves and she considered Kelley a waste of a renom option

Mean Jean

I really think that’s it’s because Kats family contacted CBS maybe yesterday about Riley treatment of Kat.

d...

there’s speculation about production meddling which is definitely possible. production may think rylie’s such a creep they need to get him out and impressed that upon rachel. alternatively production could’ve simply clued rachel in on the fact that rylie is unpopular with viewers and alternative noms like keanu and kelley aren’t so she’d want to pick players who are unpopular to be more popular with america. or could simply be rachel’s ego is such that she wants to take out a big target and rylie fits. i imagine this last one is how the edit will spin it, but the theories involving meddling are feasible as well.

Gan ainm

The war of stupidity between Rylie and Keanu is escalating.

Morgan Plays on Easy Mode

I’m still good with any of the 3 going home

Gan ainm

Does this mean Morgan will have the votes to stay against Mickey or Rylie?

Gan ainm

So Vince goes from the block to the deciding vote this week.

Jordan

Like a true G

Jordan

Ehh as one of the few Vince fans here im happy lol. Rylie sucks so if he goes who cares. Honestly I want both mickey and Morgan to stay for the chaos and so Riley doesn’t get to ra*e kat in jury. Def a win for Kat even if she dont see it. He would have been all over her im jury

Derella

Riley might win Block buster.

mooning

Disappointing… Hard to believe Lauren used veto on Vince. lol …Where did BB find these silly people? My hunch someone decided try to take control of Rachel’s HOH thinking if one of the three came down she’d be forced to put up Keanu and he’d go home.

Love2Ball

Sounds like production wants to limit any potential legal liability by getting rid of the narcissistic abuser Riley. Good riddance.