3 PART FINAL HOH
HOH Part 1 Morgan / Ashley / Vinny
HOH Part 1 Winner: Morgan
HOH Part 2: Vinny & Ashley
HOH Part 2 Winner: Ashley
HOH Part 3: Morgan & Ashley
HOH Part 3 Winner: ?
Ashley sleeps through the goodbyes
9:00 am Morgan
I hope that all of you that are watching can recognize my game can recognize who I am as a person as a woman. I did my best to be my very best even when I was At rock bottom I never game up and I kept fighting for myself I fought for my allies. I went hard in the paint and I didn’t stop until I got here. I knew the mission that I was on I kenw what I came to do. It’s crazy cause even reaching the jury pashe I wasn’t sure I could make it right here. I had so much faith and I just klept going. now I’m sitting here in the final 3 practicing a speech for final 2 I can’t believe it. I have just one competition this season just one more that’s all I have and I hope I can win it. I hope I have a lot of you guys out there cheering for me.. And now my best friend is here.
Vince joins.
Morgan – I hope you guys loved watching me and my best friend play this season.
Vince – to anyone watching the live feeds hopefully we were able to provide any sense of entertainment or ahh distraction or comfort.. it helps me I Always enjoyed watching the live feeds so thanks for hanging out with us.
Vince – hopefully we provided a good season overall
Morgan – full of Drama and juicy fights and a lot of Crying. We both cried enough for the whole cast.
Morgan – I hope you guys got to enjoy watch vinnie and I do our duop thing. Kinda crazy that a duo pointed out week two made it all the way here. one thing I’ll say you can watch the show from season 1 to now and be a super fan like this guy but the show does no justice at how hard this place really is when you get here. You are tested on so many different bounds you probably will never experience even in the outside world. When you come in here you come in here with Courage you come in here with resilience knowing .
Vince – you will be judged by everyone when you do it
Morgan – and you will be judged on the inside and the outside. that’s the hardest part you are putting yourself out there in front of millions of people playing a game you love wanting to win a game you love and hoping that people can respect you game play…
feeds cut to the pound
feeds cut to the It’s over folks
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anyone have a list of times jurors have told a houseguest they would never vote for them only to turn around and vote for that player during finale night? i feel it happens almost every season and yet tons of people are convinced keanu means it when he says he won’t vote for vince.
I’m not sure about earlier seasons but right off the bat BB18 and 20 come to mind
Natalie started Paul hate train (deserved) and Tyler basically fucked his own game up and rubbed people the wrong way
those examples are the opposite of what i’m talking about.
Tyler got ever single vote from the Level 6 alliance except for 1 – Sam. Sam was pissed about getting cut because she and Tyler had a F2 (he had several F2’s) and she thought she was the real one, even over Angela.
Kaycee got all the FOUTTE votes plus Sam. She won 4-3. The only people mad at Tyler were the people on the other alliance and Sam, and Sam wasn’t even an official member of the Level Six alliance. She just voted with them, along with JC, who also voted for Tyler to win.
I think it depends on who he’s up against. If it’s Vince vs. Ashley, I think he goes Vince. If it’s Vince vs. Morgan, I think he goes Morgan. I think he votes Morgan over Ashley if Morgan wins final HOH and takes Ashley to f2.
Yeah, I kinda see it going that way too. He has no respect for Ashley’s game but thinks Morgan’s game was competitive
I think it happens all the time. When someone is voted out, often they have hard feelings, especially if they are voted out by an ally. They often swear they’ll never vote for that person but after going to jury, cooling off & discussing the game with the others, they come around.
Sorry, I’m not invested enough in the game to keep a list of winners, much less unhappy jury members.
Thank you for updating us throughout these months
Hoping we get a bitter jury and Ashley wins
You’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed our updates! HAha we’ll see what the jury is like tonight..
Morgan deserves the win. Bitter jury isn’t a fair jury. Do you not want fair?
She was in charge of her own social game. The methods she used to burn those bridges decides how ‘bitter’ the jury is.
Well you got your wish and we got an unworthy winner for the third time in four seasons. I count Jag as an unworthy winner because he was voted out of the house in BB25 week 4, in a 10-0 vote against Blue, only to have Matt use some “power of invincibility” (voted by America in part – 4 winners had to compete for it – Matt won against Cory, Jag and Cirie) to overturn that vote, and keep him in the game. IMHO nobody who gets voted out 10-0 should be allowed to stay in the game, much less win.
So Taylor was unworthy, Jag was unworthy and now Ashley is unworthy. Just my opinion, but I’m salty about it.
Woke up. Painted until 8am then crashed.
Forgive me if I’m out of the loop…
Did Drew decide to take Diane or Cowboy?
Think about the situation… it’s a weird parallel that just hit me.
Taking a different look.
I say week one sets the tone ALL the time every season.
We haven’t looked at what week one DID…
What I remember:
Week one we learned that multiple houseguests already had multiple final 2 deals.
We learned that people were already plotting the demise of their final 2 partners.
We learned that alliancing was transitory and fake.
We learned specifically:
Vince will backstab and then whine and cry victim about his own actions. He was ‘forced’ to nominate Ashley after making a safety deal with her before HOH. He had no choice but to put his final 2 up as renom (then plot her eviction) because he didn’t want to upset anyone.
We learned Morgan was an arrogant self-obsessed nutjob talking about ‘her game’ ‘her jury’ and specifically we learned she will flip on her allies at the drop of a hat if they are not more concerned with HER game than their OWN game (she was already plotting Jimmy and Mickey’s demise while in a final 2 with each of them and a final 3). When counting her jury members and votes, we pretty quickly learned she would prefer to take a Victoria to final 2 over a Derek (one of the convos with Mickey) because to be the best you have to take the worst to final 2….? pretty much. Buuut we also learned she would spin and kvetch and talk herself into and out of things… and expect everyone to flip their scripts because she flipped hers. And she’d be personally offended when people didn’t flip their opinions when she flipped hers with no notice.
We learned Ashley was mugging for camera time with production’s endorsement (showergate being hyped up from what it actually was). We learned her game was going to be gossip and plotting against her allies to split her allies apart (she and Amy plotting against Rachel end week one).
The season targeting was defined as take out the physically strong because I can’t beat them at an endurance comp later this season. We’d already heard VInce is just a littleguy dontchaknow whining, we’d already heard Morgan talk about the Wall comp and I’m an athlete a few times week one.
What I saw:
I didn’t like any of them much from the jump. They seemed like they were arrogant and ignorant and by day 5 I thought they would each play a game that I would not like. I wanted all three to go down in flames… but knew almost immediately that two of them would be top 3. The cams were spending WAY too much time focusing on them every day… this added to my dislike of them.
What else we saw:
Rachel influencing the structure of the house. She pushed anti-brigade gender war. She was by the end of week one in multiple alliances… but those alliances were keep enemies closer alliances. We heard ad nauseum about loyalty… from a season where loyalty was already being foreshadowed as loyal but only until it’s not best for my game.
That is what we saw Week one. Look at this week with THAT in mind.
Can I ask you a quick question before we’re all done here for the season. I always wondered if there was any prod. influence/meddling involved in Dan’s Funeral? Would love to hear what your recollections and thoughts were on that topic.
Thank you for all your other input this season as well.
I believe reality entertainment television is not the same as a gameshow. while not entirely scripted… there has to be a reason big brother has SO many writers. That should answer any question anyone has about whether or not i believe production has a hand in most things involved in the creation of their product.
Why I say not entireley scripted…. modern d/r and situations where they say or we see that a houseguest is wearing an earbud and giving a speechifying moment.
I always enjoy reading your post thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Ashley or Morgan, need to bring Vince to Final 2. Why?
Ashley, she has Rachel & Will, Kelley & Lauren were burned by Vince, Keanu was also burned by Vince. Morgan will vote Vince. 5 to 1 or 4 to 2 for Ashley.
Morgan, she gets Rachel, Will, Kelley, Lauren, Maybe Keanu & Ashley. So 6 to 0 or 6 to 1 for Morgan.
Lauren votes Vince no matter what. Keanu and Kelley may too. I agree that Vince is easier to beat but I don’t think he automatically loses.
Looking at it another way, there are 3 fairly solid anti-Vince votes in Rachel, will, and Ava and whoever’s sitting next to vince just needs one more, but getting that one more is somewhat tricky. If the other four are 50-50 that still leaves Vince with a 1 in 16 chance of winning (slightly better than the 1 in 17 chance he had when Rachel entered the house)
Rachel’s credibility as a Big Brother champion and ambassador goes out the window if she votes for Ashley to win over Morgan. There’s absolutely no “game” justification for doing so, social or competition. She might be able to justify it if it’s Ashley vs. Vince by saying his social game absolutely sucked, but that’s a serious stretch IMHO.
Will and Ava have a lot less to lose by voting for Ashley. They don’t have reputations to uphold.
I was right
Thank you Dawg and Simon for covering this season and grinding it out on these feeds. I haven’t been able to watch these last couple of weeks with the feeds focused on Morgan and Vince. Just not watchable.
Really amazing what you do and how you guys hang in there!
Have a great off season. Maybe next year might be better.
Thanks Paul Sucks … Agree with your username.
I would have been interested to see how the jury votes in a Morgan/Vinny finale.
Thank you Simon and Dawg…..you guys were amazing to not give up on this nightmare season…..I’m headed to the tip jar……see you back (I hope) next season!
Thank you very much! We appreciate! We wanted to throw in the towel multiple time this season.. we made it though. We might need therapy after listening to these HGs haha
Thanks you Dawg for putting up with so much for us this horrible season.. So bad we have decided to never speak of this season again.. UGH. Thanks again
You’re welcome! Haha agreed, this season will never be spoken of again.
Hour or so before finale.
Thought.
more of a possibility.
THERE IS A CHANCE AT KRAKEN MEETS FUKAKTA:
Let’s say Morgan wins final HOH. Let’s say Morgan takes Ashley.
Let’s look at Rachel’s history and Rachel’s likely voting strategy.
What is Rachel’s bb life about?
Met husband which has led her to the oldschool belief in single ride or die loyalty to at least one person in the game. Prides herself on winning against the one she took to finals that could have beaten her because they were allies and she pushed loyalty.
DOES RACHEL RESPECT MORGAN FOR GOING ‘EASY ROUTE’?
IS THIS TRANSGRESSION AGAINST EVERYTHING RACHEL BELIEVES IS HER BB BRAND MEAN RACHEL WILL VOTE AGAINST MORGAN?
Anyone’s thoughts on this?
Rachel will never admit to herself that she was wrong about Morgan playing Vinny’s game. She will be proud of Morgan for finally coming to her senses in jury phase by overpowering Vinny. Rachel will always see Vinny as the mastermind sure winner who got taken down by a well rounded woman.
In Rachel’s perception, Morgan had comp ability, social game by working herself into Rachel’s group (Rachel sees the other side as outcasts not worthy of playing with socially, even though they literally were the ones winning all the comps), and strategy of separating Vinny from Lauren and working to also get out Kelley and Keanu.
Anyone of average logic knows you need to get out the comp beasts especially when they are not on your side. Social game is not just with less than half the house.
The only part Rachel has right is about the comps, but that is Rachel. So wrong, yet so sure she’s always right.
I think when you factor in the comp wins and having agency in actually making game moves would negate that.
As I stated above, I think her reputation goes in the dumpster if she votes for Ashley to win against Morgan simply because Ashley didn’t even play the game. Loyalty or not, you’ve got to play the game to win, or you should, and Ashley didn’t. How does someone who views herself as a “legend” and “the queen” justify voting someone to win, who didn’t even play the game?
I just don’t see it happening.
i remain confused how her reputation wasn’t in the dumpster after bb12. whiny and annoying all season, horrible reads on the house dynamics, and no idea what a floater even is let alone their need for lifevests.
Ok am I the only thinking that Vinny is really bad actor?
I am so glad that they showed Vince crashing out
Worst season, worst house guest and worst floater won. My hunch Morgan and Vince threw the last comps. Sure looks like production picked the winner.. Show has been going downhill since the black alliance season.. Oh well.. They manage to get me to waste my time watching.. THANKS TO THE CREW THAT RUN THIS PAGE..YOU’RE THE REAL WINNERS..