Quick Big Brother Spoilers
Head of Household: Lauren
Nominees: Will, Keanu, Kelley
POV Players: Vince, Ashley, Kelley, Keanu, Will, Lauren
POV Winner: Keanu (He also won a movie screening w/Ava, Jimmy & Rachel)
Veto Ceremony: ?
Havenots: Jimmy & Katherine
12:15pm HOH room – Rachel and Lauren
Rachel – Well, nobody can tell you what to do, but you don’t want that either. You’re a strong, intelligent, beautiful woman. And I know this is hard. Let me give you a hug first. Lauren – So stupid. Rachel – No, it’s not stupid. It’s hard. It’s hard. You have to put 4 people up. That’s really hard. And you. I mean, I feel like you also taking it like very personally. So don’t think you have to, but I mean. Can I be very honest with you? Lauren – Yeah. Rachel – You, you have the world that you’re like it’s your oyster. You’re 21, like 22 years old, right? Like, you’re beautiful, you’re smart, you’re you’re following your dreams. You’re going to move to New York by yourself. Like sure, your friend is there, but like you are a strong woman, you’re educated. You’re you have everything going for you. Like there’s no reason why you should feel like you have to listen to I mean honestly to someone that’s like unemployed in their 30s. Who is your closest confident? Lauren – I’m not really sure how that happened or why that happened. Rachel – I feel like you and I are very similar. Like we chase our dreams. We, you know, you go for HOHs, you’re not scared of doing things. We’re both sorority girls. Like I would love to be your confident. Like I feel like you have people in this house that you rely on. But like I don’t see why because the commonality doesn’t seem like it’s there and I’m not trying to put anyone down.
Lauren – I like respect the heck out of you because you’re obviously an iconic game player. Rachel – Sometimes, maybe not this season. Lauren – but no, and I feel lucky to be playing the game with you.I truly do respect you. Rachel – I feel like the fact that you won week three HOH, like you’re stepped up your game. You came here to play. Like, I’ve seen that you’ve come here to play anyways, like that wasn’t ever a shock to me, but like, I love that you really took control because it’s hard. Nominated three people and nominated 4th. It’s really hard and I know you have to make a really hard decision because I know that you’re considering Adrian, who’s obviously, I’m sure promising you the world, which is fine, and maybe you have a relationship with him, which is great and that’s, you know, if that benefits your game, that’s what you should do. But I also feel like getting out Ashley is not a good idea for your game, ’cause she’s not gonna ever come for you either. And like I just don’t, in my opinion. I don’t see how that would benefit you. It’s like, you know, if you have someone who doesn’t want to even consider you, right? Lauren – Yeah, I don’t know. And maybe there’s someone in this house that like. I just really don’t know. I feel like I don’t really have a heartbeat on the house that much, but yeah. It makes it harder because I feel like there’s nobody. I mean obviously a lot of people want Kelley out, which you know I’m you know whatever.. Rachel – And just know I’m really always here for you. I appreciate of course, 100 percent, and like you’re literally always good with me. Lauren – Thank you. Rachel – And I think we could take the house by storm. Lauren – I think we could, too, to be honest with you.
12:45pm Vince and Lauren
Lauren – she was like I don’t think Ashley is good for your game.. Like putting her up. Vinny – Yeah she’s so generous with her willingness to give advice for what’s best for your game. Not for hers. Vinny – yeah. Lauren – And the way that I don’t know, she was like referring to you like, don’t let let him. Vinny – I don’t even understand how that became a thing. Lauren – don’t let, like him push anything onto you that’s not good for you. She is, like, fully gunning for you. Vinny – Why? I don’t know. That’s so weird to me. Lauren – Yeah, she’s like, don’t let you know people like that, like, tell you like that? Vinny – What the f**k have I done? Lauren – I don’t know. I don’t understand. Vinny – She’s really f**king good at this. And that’s what scares me and that’s why I don’t get a chance. And I mean, maybe it’s not even getting a chance, but that’s why I don’t talk much game to her, because I never know what to f**king believe with her. I think I have to do Ashley. Vinny – Have you talked to most people individually? Like if you like wanted to check in with Riley. Lauren – I sort of checked in with Riley. Vinny – I don’t know what her (Rachel) angle is, but she scares the shit out of me. Lauren – She scares me so much. I’m leaning towards putting Ashley. Vinny – Yeah. Lauren – I want to talk to Kelley and Adrian, if you like despite what a lot of people are saying. If I put up Ashley, she has to go home. She has to go home. I know that’s the big thing where I’m going to need Kelley to win the blockbuster, because if Kelley’s on the block on eviction night, she goes home and she knows that. I think she knows that. But if it comes down to her winning, it will be unanimous again where Will stays and Ashley goes home. So all this would come down to is Kelley winning the blockbuster. She says she likes her chances against Will and Ashley, if it comes down to it. Vinny – It’s still a one in three chance. You never know, but. She is very smart with puzzles, so I like her odds too. Lauren – But it just gives me a pit my stomach with this f**king blockbuster thing because. You know, any other season you make renoms and that’s it for days coming. It’s just those two. Nothing can change. Vinny – Yeah, rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.
Lauren – I feel like I can separate game from personal. That’s what I’m trying to do really hard, you know. And I feel like they’re thinking that I’m not doing that, but I actually am doing that more than they’re doing that. Vinny – Yes. Yes. Rachel, I talk much game with. She freaks me out and it’s hard for me to like try to because then am I just playing her game of we’re just f**king bullsh*tting each other and we’re just sitting there talking about how much we want to work with each other, but just for the sake of. I’m gonna say that just in case you win HOH. Or do I sit here and where am I an idiot for not doing that? And I’m just going to go toe to toe with f**king Rachel Riley, who’s already won this game, and then I’m even more of an idiot? I don’t. I’m like trying to figure out how to go about these conversations with the people that I really don’t talk a whole lot with. And now when I hear people kind of like saying my name in passing, I’m like, f**k, am I doing this wrong? Should I do more? Lauren – No. Vinny – Or is that doing too much? I think it’s getting to the point where everyone’s name is gonna.. Lauren – yeah, I think you’re right. I think the person whose name has never come out as Ava. Vinney – I know that’s a literally f**king favorite to win. She’s literally the only name. She’s never been re-suggested. Lauren – Actually the only person that has not been a consideration. Lauren – I don’t see any other way around it. I think I just have to double down and take cover.
1:10pm HOH room – Ashley and Lauren
Ashley – I don’t know if I’m one, but I guess my pitch is, you know, I’m never coming for you like. I feel like. You’re a very intelligent woman. I think you know that. I think you also know that there are other people who may think different, right? I feel like I’ve always supported you, even when you come to me. I’ve never tried to sway your opinion. Me, there are other people who are more obviously dominant personalities. I don’t feel like I’m one. I think a lot of people come and push their own agenda. Lauren – Exactly, yeah. People have been saying Adrian and you just because you all were the only people that were on the block already and you took yourselves down. Ashley – So we know that like against Kelley, that’s there’s no way I’m beating Kelley. In a puzzle. I haven’t even done a blockbuster before. Right? Lauren – Right. Ashley – She’s done 3. Lauren – Yeah. Ashley – Adrian has done one. Lauren – Right. Ashley – I would honestly be very hurt if you put me up and you know I’m never coming from you. Lauren – Yeah, so that’s why it just confuses me. Ashley – You know I trust you, but I think a lot of people are really good at this game and pushing you know what they think in their own agendas. Are you gonna follow that? Are you here to play the game? Lauren – I know, yeah. Ashley – There’s always a reason why people are pushing their games and it’s never for your interest, it’s for theirs. And you can’t play next week. Lauren – yeah.
Ashley – It’s your game. You came here for your family and your grandma. You know, and maybe that’s not even me or Adrian. I don’t know. I know it’s not me. I think you know it’s not me. As far as what’s best for your game right now to go? From what I’ve shown you, I’ve never told you what to do. I’ve never bossed you around. You know what I’m saying? If those truly aren’t your thoughts. Why would you consider? You know? And personally, I don’t think it’s the overwhelming majority. In my opinion, I think people are going to say me or him to save themselves, but I think more people would want to see Adrian up than me. Personally, I don’t even think Zach would want me up. Ashley – I feel like if its not your decision and you don’t want to do it, why would you consider it, is my opinion. Lauren – The think is like its kind of the same thing with Adrian, like I don’t necessarily want to put him on hte block either be cause I feel like we alos had decent conversations. Ashley – then why should those be yor only options.
1:45pm Ashley – So I guess for you in your game, obviously I know you want to work with any.. Probably Jimmy? Who else do you want to work with? Who do you see yourself working with? Lauren – Umm. I just don’t know. I feel like relationships have been established and I’m like just bad at especially as HOH now it feels really isolating because like people come up to you and say things, but at the same time I feel like no one really cares. I don’t know. Ashley – You don’t know who you would want to work with? Lauren – Yeah, just because I feel like, like I said, people are pushing their own things and I just.I don’t know who to trust, and I know that that’s not a way to play the game. Ashley – Like, you have to pick people who you trust and you want to like, ride with. Lauren – And I thought that I would have it figured out by now, but I feel like you don’t. Ashley – Do you want to work with Katherine? Lauren – I mean, again, that’s another thing. Is separation of personal and game. I love Katherine, but I feel like game wise, we honestly don’t really talk that much. I mean, she gives me her general thoughts. I do think when she makes a decision, that’s her decision. I’m an over thinker and I make everything way difficult. More difficult than it needs to be.
2pm – 2:25pm Lounge – Ashley and Vinny
Vinny – how did your talk go because I know there are a couple of names going around and I am getting a little frustrated. What I am getting frustrated by is I’m assuming that people are going to assume its coming from me and that I apparently am close with Lauren. Kelley is the person that I burned my bridges with. You’re the person I want to build bridges with. Kelley is the back up target, that was the whole point of her being on the block. Ashley – I don’t know what is going on. Vinny – I think Katherine definitely has a hand in this. I think she is the one pushing it. Me and Zach actually failed with Lauren because we were trying to make sure Will was not an initial nom. Ashley – that’s why I am confused. It sounds like she does listen to you and wants to work with you. Vinny – but she didn’t listen to me on the Will thing. Ashley – I know. What is Adrian offering? Vinny – I think he’s offering safety if and
when he inevitably wins. I think he’s offering to play veto for people who keep him safe and use the veto however it’s fit. I think he’s offering that he is an honest person to a fault and he doesn’t cuss and he doesn’t lie. And if he tells you something, he keeps his word. And predictability is hard to have in this game because as we know better than anybody that we don’t know what the fuck is going on going on with all this sh*t. Literally and he says that he is honest until he’s given a reason not to. And so it could be, it could be a scary thought that if he does win, you directly say, say you put him up, he beats Kelley and blockbuster he stays. He wins HOH the same day. That could be scary, right? but this is Big Brother, where anything can happen. Ashley – in our conversation it sounded like she was scared to put him (Adrian) up. I didn’t want to seem like I’m threatening her but is like girl, I have multiple people that would put you up if you send me home. I think if I don’t go on the block it will be because of you and Jimmy. If I’m on the block I am going home. I will not be able to beat Kelley in the Blockbuster. Vinny – I will try but am feeling very frustrated because I thought I was gonna have nothing to do with this f**king HOH. How the f**k did I get pulled into this? Where all of a sudden I’m close to Lauren.
2:55pm HOH room – Lauren and Kelley
Lauren – and she (Ashley) was basically like, if Adrian goes, it’s no big loss. No big loss but like connection wise like you and she was like if you put me up then there’s blood. Kelley – that’s a threat. Lauren – I don’t like that and based on that alone, I had lots of reasons to put her up already. Kelley – but she threatening you ..if I win HOH. She’s out of here and you tell that to any of the other 10, same thing. You don’t threaten in this game. I mean, you do. It doesn’t, it’s not going to get you anywhere. You got off a little bit easy the first part of the week. I think maybe you can handle a little bit of blood. Ashley has gotten on everyone’s nerves. Even Jimmy is annoyed with her. Lauren – its the questions too like whenever she’s talking to me she is like well who do you not trust? Who do you want to work with. Kelley – these certainly necessarily aren’t questions I am comfortable answering. Lauren – I say very broad answers. Kelley – she is not winning competitions. Adrian – will continue to win.
3:40pm – 4pm HOH room – Lauren and Mickey
Mickey – Hey girl, hey girl. How are you, Mamas? Lauren – I’m all right. Yeah. I need to stop complaining. Mickey – What? What have you been complaining about? Lauren – Just how hard it is to be HOH. But I should be lucky that I’m HOH and I’m the one that put myself in that position and you know what I mean? Remembering that it’s all a game and it’s it is what it is, you know? Mickey – I mean, I don’t think it’s anything to beat yourself up about. Like you earned it fair and square, babes. Lauren – I just don’t want anyone to not like me anymore. Mickey – I get it. I totally get it. Lauren – Yeah. Mickey – What have you been like what have you been thinking of like a 3rd non. Lauren – Adrian and Ashley have already been on the block for it, which doesn’t necessarily mean that they have to go up again. But they have both taken themselves down so I feel like that’s just something to to think about whenever it comes to like Blockbuster and stuff. Mickey – yeah. Lauren – that’s about where I’m at. Mickey – Okay, Let’s project managing OK. So let’s look at the board. So what is, what is your goal, what is your end goal? Meaning like what exactly like when you made these noms who were the people that you potentially wanted to go so well Keanu was but now you’re thinking Kelley. Lauren – yeah. Mickey – so obviously Kelley is intelligent. It’s not going to take just the average person to get her out. So I’m like obviously, if it’s a physical challenge, OK. Here’s what I would think. I think it would be what if we try to find somebody or we think of somebody or think of people who could beat Kelley in any type of cop challenge? Does that make sense? Who would be the bigger competitor for her in anything that might be physical, mental or memory? Does that make sense? Someone that is exceeding in all 3 categories? Lauren mentions Adrian would be a good option in that case. Mickey – what about Ashley? So like do you think that if you put Ashley up, do you think that she is capable of beating Kelley? And then if she doesn’t, are you comfortable with sending Ashley home just because Adrian came to talk to you. Even though Adrian might be the better competitor, right?
Lauren – yeah. It hurts my heart to even think about, just because you know I don’t know. Obviously I don’t want either of them to go up but just the consideration has f**ked me. Even just saying a name out loud, people are like you’re done. Mickey – they’ve said that? Lauren – no, that is just my overthinking. I don’t want to hurt anybody or make anyone upset but one way or another you’re ending somebody’s life in this game. You have your own mind. Get her (Kelley) out and build your resume. If Ashley goes out, that doesn’t do anything for your resume. Lauren – I don’t want Ashley to hate me. Mickey – I won’t say anything, I promise. Ashley is a sweet girl. I’ve never talked game wise with her but I don’t think she would put you up.
4:30pm HOH room – Keanu and Lauren
Keanu – I heard through the grapevine that you would be okay with putting Ashley up if you could blame it on me and I’m letting you know right now. I don’t give a fuck. I got a target on my back anyway, so I’ll take that 10 out of 10 times. You know what I mean? And and you could spin it however you want. Obviously. I don’t want you to think like, oh, he’s the one that pressured me into it because I don’t want you to look weak, you know what I mean? Just like, hey, he won the veto fair and square and you know, you can even say, hey, he made a deal with me. He said I could put him up then remember what initially what I was going to come to you with. Like, hey, put me up if you have to, but if I win the veto, promise me that you’re going to put Ashley up. You can literally say we made that deal. That’s it.
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What do you bet Rachel & Ashley’s DR’s will have them saying the exact opposite of what they are telling Lauren here? Are Lauren & Zach in a low key showmance or is that just in the imagination of the HG’s? Also, what does everyone seem to have against Kelley? I thought she & Vinny were friends but he seems to now be throwing her under the bus. I don’t watch the feeds so I don’t know if she is just really annoying or something. And where are all those powers and twists that were promised? All used up by week 3? Just regular gameplay from now on unless Mickey uses her power?
Vince and Kelley.
Vince went around week one collecting final 2 deals.
Kelley was one of the first.
He realized her personality and house role were not conducive to his be everyone’s ally game. She was too attached, too much, and too talkative (she can’t keep a secret).
By week two he really wanted her out because she didn’t fit his overall gameplan, but at the same time likes her personally when nobody else is around so she can’t damage his cred.
The season is VERY high school clique. Moreso than usual and that says something.
Kelley is the girl with lice eating paste that Vince has known since before he got his moustache (not really, just colorful image for example of roles). Vince wants to eat at the cool kids table, not in the corner with the d-class nobodies. Kelley doesn’t hit the grade for social climber Vince’s game.
Zach and Mickey have powers. Zach can bribe any HOH not to nominate him, and the HOH has no choice in the matter. Mickey has heist power to take over any HOH until Jury.
Over half the house has figured out / heavily suspects Mickey has a power. They don’t know what it is.
I heard Morgan told who, which I find unreal. I thought those 2 were super close. I know Zach had an idea she won because he was near her in the dark and heard her voice. Is it mostly him that spread the news? Who did Morgan tell and why did she do that? I like Kelley for some weird reason but she is so stupid volunteering for the block weekly. I don’t think she would stay vs. Will. Her best option is Ashley. I feel Adrian is gonna be the renom for some reason and he will win Blockbuster and she will go vs. Will. I don’t watch the feeds.
Don’t fall for Ashley’s lawyering BS Lauren! I don’t know if Lauren was just putting on a good act or falling for it, but it looks pretty convincing
So Rachel finally has a one on one with Lauren and lays things out as to how she wants things done to benefit her (Rachel’s) game.
Vinny the suck up follows that meeting up with another meeting of his own with Lauren, in which he learns that Rachel and her minions are not too happy with the fact he has spent hours upon hours in the HOH room providing “guidance” to young Lauren as to how to best do things to benefit his game. Vinny then proceeds to try to cover his ass with Ashley, because that’s what a chickenshit does when he finds out he’s been discovered doing what he does, and tells a bunch of lies about how much influence he had over Lauren’s initial nominations, and her current re-nomination.
Vince has been smooth so far in trying to play the middle, but it’s a hard game to play without getting caught, especially if you mix in a little rat play! Usually the best course of action is NOT to spend hours upon hours sucking up to the HOH in her room, trying to influence nominations – not if you want to remain in the middle. It’s just too obvious to everybody when you do that. Now he’s been found out and he very well could get the dreaded “snake” label attached to his back.
If Lauren nominates Ashley, Vince could replace Keanu as the biggest target for the women’s side of the house, because he could get the blame for it, and nobody likes a turncoat.
OPINION:
the number of times Kat is cut on feeds. Every time she is about to say something about being disgusted or uncomfortable about something Keanu or Riley has said or done, the feeds cut with a ferocity I haven’t seen since 2 years ago. Now some might say that Kat is talking a lot of shit about people so the feeds are cutting her out. I think MAY-be it’s not that she says shit about a LOT of people, but that she says shit about CERTAIN people who are getting a teflon edit (Keanu) or are being whitewashed by edit into almost non-existence (Riley).
It’s the abrasive people that dgaf and say what they think that the feedmonkey fear.
Note… they did not protect Rachel when it was Keanu and Riley talking about her crib notes for the HOH comp. That slipped past with a five minute delay meaning prodo WANTED us to hear it for shock and awe.
It’s Kat they cut and avoid like she’s got typhoid and she’s wearing horizontal and vertical stripes at the same time.
Just a thought.
Keanu offered to take the heat blame credit for Ashley’s nomination.
He tells Lauren to tell everyone they made a deal that if he won POV he would not target her if Ashley was renom.
Good conversation. I am glad it was a break from the Lauren/Vince conversations
incredibly smart play on keanu’s part. this is really what lauren wants, someone willing to take the heat for her nominees. if you want someone specific on the block, everyone should be doing this. instead they’re deflecting.
smart play if Lauren hadn’t Laurened having one on ones with everyone.
If it was a done deal she wouldn’t NEED to do so.
It makes her look sketch.
Lauren is seriously unbearable. Just make your own decisions already. It’s like Vince is the real HOH. She keeps saying she came here to play the game but all she does is get dragged around. I hope she gets evicted next week.
WEEK THREE
Episode 8 (?) HOH and Noms
Let’s see how they fit allllll this indecision into 20 minutes.
Section One Post eviction
Get Jimmy out! Snake / Liar is Amy’s epitaph.
Jimmy thinks his HOH was successful. ummm. hhoooooboy. All his alliances have cut him and are just stringing him along now. real successful.
Coverup of Amy wanting to leave?
Lauren needs to win because cut throat for Amy’s allies to cut her. foreshadow 1
Will feels good about his social game. Wait for it.
Cover up is how the Amy leaving feels to me.
Adrian and Keanu celebrate. They don’t actually like each other.
Keanu knows zero about any season so d/r is faaaaake. Adrian is after Keanu. Told you.
Ava approached with final 2. this feels like give Rachel an entertainment sidekick liked by social media more than a final 2 of equals. Feels prodo induced.
Morgan and Mickey are a terrible pair to have in your final 3. Just saying.
Section Two: HOH Comp
Kelley, Lauren with another foreshadow explanation, Ashley Keanu Rachel get spotlights pre-HOH. It’s an explanation of power structure and positioning in house dynamic.
THUS FAR Mickey Lauren are cardboard in d/r. No charisma AT ALL. Keanu is reading lines because he knows ZERO about past seasons but keeps getting superfan references.
TWIN WITNESS NEWS
Nolans speaking or cardboard. Or are they blow up dolls?
BOOM NOT BANG
Kat, Will, Vince, Kelley, Vince, Keanu Ashley OUT.
Dusty Garage
Ava out.
SPOTTED underpants.
Mickey changes answer.
Everyone but Mickey and Lauren left after 3 questions.
Lauren wants to make her mark on this game. Wait for it.
Round TWO
5th street closed.
LAUREN WINS HOH.
IN D/R Nobody has a game relationship with Lauren. In other words a lot of people have slept on a houseguest and not done the work to build a game relationship with Lauren. Epidemic of strategic error.
Mickey talks about her power.
Section three: ummm, yah… well no… i don’t know this is HAAARD.
Power in Lauren’t own hands. For about five minutes.
Will is in an alliance with lauren and hasn’t talked game with her. ummmm. is that an alliance?
Kat is getting the string puller role from women because Ashley and Kat don’t click.
Everyone has decided her noms before talking to her. Vince just wants to give Lauren a head’s up…. her ass for the length of the HOH.
FINAL 2 INTRODUCED. How about Vince’s OTHER final 2’s like Kelley and Zach and Morgan and Rachel and Jimmy…. and those are just the top of my head.
Jimmy comes in and tries to manipulate an Adrian nom. they cut that Will was her first impulse for third seat. They skip where Ashley was mentioned and Vince LOVED it.
Jimmy tries to suck up to Mickey. Mickey sounds like using her power is possible. Sideye not if SHE isn’t a nom.
Rachel upset she doesn’t get kid photos…. and MAYBE that her cue cards were taken away? according to Riley and Keanu. New school bb is different….um. Remembers the best of manipulation and cheats from old school. mkay. Now d/r decides who can bend the rules and what the punishments are. Usually nothing if heavily storylined.
Section Four: I Should never have Won the HOH.
FLUFF. Rachel Yoga. All the women. Ashley can’t Yoga. Ava Vince Morgan Pie discussion.
Keanu doesn’t want to be on the block. Keanu watchdogged ALL of the other meetings until HIS meeting.
Keanu names targets. Rachel, Jimmy, Ashley. D/R sounds like Jimmy and Rachel were considerations. She was SCARED of the SMOKE for them. Ashley was mentioned almost immediately with Vince.
Ashley and later Mickey one on one. Mickey tries to get Lauren to go after Jimmy’s noms that Mickey didn’t like last week. Basically: go after people that have already been on the block. Zach one on one. Keanu listed. Kelley listed. Kelley volunteers again. Adrian says Keanu and Kelley third nom Ashley (least blood)… Rachel is the big move. Adrian is NOT volunteering. WILL. who knows and went to bed and skipped one on ones. Pawn talk. Make it someone else. AFTER SHE HUNTED HIM DOWN.
Lauren is indecisive. LAUREN WANTS 3 VOLUNTEERS. guuuuul.
Section Five: Nominations
Keanu / Kelley / Will.
Mickey didn’t use power. Kelley volunteered spot. Keanu will win veto spot. Will gets the why me spot. cus you didn’t do a one on one and expected others to keep you off the block dumbass.
Notes:
Ashley conspicuously not mentioned as a possible nom.
Adrian… she wanted a volunteer to be on block from 2 people…. what is SHE smoking?
Vince not shown in Lauren’s ass for 2 whole days.
Odd. All very odd if you are an edit reader.
Ashley makes me want to puke!